{"article":{"id":267352,"heading":"to the anarchists coming to atlanta","author":"auntieracist","created":"2015-02-13 17:22:02","modified":"2015-02-16 00:34:57","last_modified":"Mon, 16 Feb 2015 07:34:57","article":"<p>Here is a repost of something I wrote prior to the 2004 g8 in Savannah. That protest was organized shortly after a huge protest in Miami which, by the protesters' count, drew some 10,000. For the sake of my own argument I accepted their count. <br>  <br>   Regarding the reference to Savannah surviving Sherman, I should point out that Sherman came through Atlanta too and he set fire to it. I will also point out that setting fire to Atlanta did nothing to improve anybody's opinions of black people, northerners or the federal government. Sherman is still hated, is still mentioned out loud regularly and his name is used to salt down a variety of negative opinions.  So any activists who were involved in setting fire to Ferguson who might be thinking of presenting an encore in Atlanta might consider that. <br>  <br> Here is the repeat of my posting from 2004: <br><br>  <br><br> 11Re: [southerngpusa] G-8 protesters step out <br><br> Jan 7, 2004 <br>  <br> I am going to do what I am well known for, which is to <br>  <br> be ruthlessly frank and make people mad. <br><br> These quotes from the article below constitute <br>  <br> threats: <br><br> \"we know we can't control everything.  <br>  <br> We do want to offer safe possibilities for  <br>  <br> everybody who's interested in keeping this a peaceful, <br><br> nonviolent city.\" <br><br> \"the city needs to not ignore this and  <br>  <br> not think that if they don't support this&#65533;it won't  <br>  <br> happen. Well, it will happen.\" <br><br> Savannah survivied General Sherman and the people <br>  <br> who live in Savannah are not inclined to allow a bunch <br>  <br> of hoodlums to mess it up now.  <br>  <br> And yes I said hoodlums. <br>  <br> If they were just political protesters then why <br>  <br> are the organizers demanding concessions from the city <br>  <br> in order to stop them from being violent? <br>  <br> And the truth is that no amount of concession from <br>  <br> the city will prevent violence, because by now these <br>  <br> events have attracted a contingent of rowdies, like <br>  <br> soccer thugs, who go there because they LIKE <br>  <br> assaulting police and tearing things up. <br>  <br> And don't even start whimpering about the right to <br>  <br> protest. If those 10,000 people who went to Miami had <br>  <br> spent the same amount of money and effort right in <br>  <br> their own cities and neighborhoods, there could have <br>  <br> been some HUGE progress. <br>  <br> 10,000 people times $200 ... and $200 is a pretty <br>  <br> conservative estimate of a trip to Miami for a week or <br>  <br> more ... is two million bucks worth of protest across <br>  <br> the country, with nothing wasted on plane fare, gas <br>  <br> and lodging. <br>  <br> The main difference is, that if you stay home and <br>  <br> do it, you can't attack the police, you can't act like <br>  <br> a criminal when your boss might see you, and you can't <br>  <br> tear things up and dissapear without paying for it.  <br>  <br> And next, according to routine into which these <br>  <br> things have fallen, somebody starts to cry, oh, but <br>  <br> we're NON-VIOLENT. Well no. You can't speak for 10,000 <br>  <br> other people, especially 10,000 other people that you <br>  <br> never met. <br>  <br> So if you want to conquer corporate slavery on a <br>  <br> global basis then grow up. Stop galavanting all over <br>  <br> the country and the world, flitting from one resort <br>  <br> city to another, camping in the streets and partying <br>  <br> round the clock between rampages. <br>  <br> Stay home, roll up your sleeves and get to work <br>  <br> like responsible people. <br><br>  <br>  <br> --- Kellie Gasink <kelliegasink2002> wrote: <br>  <br> &gt; Activists Plan Savannah G-8 Events <br>  <br> &gt; City Spokesperson Calls Plans \"Premature\" <br>  <br> &gt; Steve Ference <br>  <br> &gt; WSAV News 3 <br>  <br> &gt; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wsav.com\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.wsav.com<\/a> <br>  <br> &gt; Tuesday, January 6, 2004 <br>  <br> &gt;  <br>  <br> &gt; The city is currently reviewing plans for activities <br>  <br> &gt; local activists hope will keep protestors busy and <br>  <br> &gt; non-violent. <br>  <br> &gt;  <br>  <br> &gt; Kellie Gasink, head of the National Coalition to <br>  <br> &gt; Repeal the PATRIOT Act said in a press conference <br>  <br> &gt; Tuesday, \"the city needs to not ignore this and not <br>  <br> &gt; think that if they don't support this&#65533;it won't <br>  <br> &gt; happen. Well, it will happen.\" <br>  <br> &gt;  <br>  <br> &gt; Meeting in downtown's Wright Square, local activists <br>  <br> &gt; talked about their hope for the many protesters <br>  <br> &gt; Savannah will likely host during the G-8 summit on <br>  <br> &gt; Sea Island. <br>  <br> &gt;  <br>  <br> &gt; Because the media will be based in Savannah, <br>  <br> &gt; protesters will likely also base themselves in the <br>  <br> &gt; historic city as a result, they say. <br>  <br> &gt;  <br>  <br> &gt; Margy Betz, spokesperson for the organizing group <br>  <br> &gt; G-8 Carnival,who also spoke at the press conference, <br>  <br> &gt; said, \"we know we can't control everything. We do <br>  <br> &gt; want to offer safe possibilities for everybody who's <br>  <br> &gt; interested in keeping this a peaceful, nonviolent <br>  <br> &gt; city.\" <br>  <br> &gt;  <br><br> auntieracist <br><br> <a href=\"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/theheartofresistance\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/theheartofresistance\/<\/a> <br>  <br> <\/kelliegasink2002><\/p>\n","contact":"auntieracist@yahoo.com","link":"https:\/\/sites.google.com\/site\/theheartofresistance\/","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Remember the history of where you are going.","numcomment":1,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2015\/02\/267352.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":267383,"heading":"It's not 2004","article":"Looting is usually local.  The travelers tend to be the people who can afford to travel, and it's not 2004 anymore.  It's not that cool to jet-set to protest.  Travelers generally don't want to get arrested, because they have to fly in to make court appearances.\r\n\r\nEverything I've read about Ferguson indicates that the looting and arson, while not necessarily from Ferguson, were done by people within a short drive.  I would guess that it's not just the protest, but the opportunity, that causes looting.  It may also be a longer-term conflict involving the property owner.\r\n\r\nAlso, note that &quot;Black&quot; arson tends to target commercial space.  &quot;White&quot; arson tends to be more focused on burning Black churches and Black homes.","author":"anonymous coward","parent_id":267352,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2015-02-16 00:34:57","modified":"2015-02-16 00:34:57","fileurl":""}]}