{"article":{"id":256132,"heading":"Israel's &quot;red line&quot; on Iranian nuclear programme and a flashback to 1986","author":"Cem Ert\u00fcr","created":"2012-09-30 04:08:46","modified":"2026-10-25 17:02:54","last_modified":"Mon, 26 Oct 2026 00:02:54","article":"<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><\/span><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\nWall Street Journal, 28 September 2012<br>\r\n<br>\r\n_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<span style=\"font-style: italic;\"><\/span><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\nhttp:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/nuclear-crucifixion-fake-data-and-ficticious-reports-used-as-a-pretext-to-wage-war-on-iran\/<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br style=\"font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana;\">\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: bold; font-family: Verdana;\">Israel's\r\n\"red line\" on Iranian nuclear programme and a flashback to 1986<\/span><small><br>\r\n<\/small><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 51, 153);\">propaganda\r\nalert <\/span><br>\r\n<br>\r\ncompiled by Cem Ert&uuml;r<br>\r\n<br>\r\n28 September 2012<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n1) <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">&nbsp;Israeli\r\nPrime Minister Netanyahu draws&nbsp;red line on Iranian nuclear\r\nprogramme<\/span>\r\n(27 September 2012)\r\n&nbsp; <br>\r\n<br>\r\nfrom the archives:<br>\r\n<br>\r\n2) &nbsp;<span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Mordechai\r\nVanunu reveals the secrets of Israel's nuclear arsenal<\/span>\r\n&nbsp;(5 October 1986)&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n__________________________________<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<p style=\"margin-left: 40px;\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\"So, how much enriched uranium do you\r\nneed\r\nfor a [nuclear] bomb? And how close is <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Iran<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"> to\r\ngetting it?<span style=\"\">&nbsp;\r\n<\/span>[&hellip;]<span style=\"\">&nbsp; <\/span>Now\r\nthey are well into the second stage [of\r\nnuclear enrichment]. By next spring, at most by next summer at current\r\nenrichment rates, they will have finished the medium enrichment and\r\nmove on to\r\nthe final stage.<span style=\"\">&nbsp;\r\n<\/span>[&hellip;]<br>\r\n<span style=\"\">&nbsp;<\/span><br>\r\nThe red line should be drawn right here &hellip;.. before <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Iran<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">\r\ncompletes the second stage of nuclear enrichment necessary to make a\r\nbomb. Before\r\n<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Iran<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"> gets to a point where it's a few months\r\naway or a few weeks away\r\nfrom amassing enough enriched uranium to make a nuclear weapon. Each\r\nday, that\r\npoint is getting closer. That's why I speak today with such a sense of\r\nurgency.\r\nAnd that's why everyone should have a sense of urgency.<span style=\"\">&nbsp; <\/span>[&hellip;]<br>\r\n<span style=\"\">&nbsp;<\/span><br>\r\nTwo days ago, from this podium, President Obama reiterated that the\r\nthreat of a\r\nnuclear-armed <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Iran<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\"> cannot be contained.&nbsp;I very\r\nmuch appreciate the President's\r\nposition as does everyone in my country. We share the goal of stopping <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Iran<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">'s\r\nnuclear weapons program. This goal unites the people of <\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Israel<\/span><span lang=\"EN-GB\">.&nbsp;\r\nIt unites Americans, Democrats and Republicans alike and it is shared\r\nby\r\nimportant leaders throughout the world. <span style=\"\">&nbsp;<\/span>[&hellip;]<br>\r\n<span style=\"\">&nbsp;<\/span><br>\r\nLet us commit ourselves today to defend these values so that we can\r\ndefend our\r\nfreedom and protect our common civilization.\"<\/span><\/p>\r\n<br>\r\n[<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Israeli\r\nPrime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, speech to the United Nations General\r\nAssembly, New York, 27 September 2012<\/span>]\r\n&nbsp; (*)<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n(*) &nbsp;<span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">PM Netanyahu's Speech to\r\nthe United Nations General Assembly in New York<\/span><br>\r\n<br style=\"font-style: italic;\">\r\n<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Prime\r\nMinister's Office website, 27 September 2012<br>\r\n<\/span><br>\r\nhttp:\/\/www.pmo.gov.il\/English\/MediaCenter\/Speeches\/Pages\/speechUN270912.aspx<br>\r\n<span style=\"font-style: italic;\"><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<\/span>__________________________________<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);\">from\r\nthe archives:<\/span><br style=\"font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);\">\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\nSunday Times, 5 October 1986<br>\r\n<br>\r\n___________________________________________________________________________________________________<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\nexcerpt from: <span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">&nbsp;Revealed - the\r\nsecrets of Israel's nuclear arsenal<\/span><br>\r\n<br>\r\nAtomic technician Mordechai Vanunu reveals secret weapons production<br>\r\n<br style=\"font-style: italic;\">\r\n<span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Sunday\r\nTimes, 5 October 1986<\/span><br>\r\n<br>\r\n&nbsp;<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<div style=\"margin-left: 40px;\">THE\r\nSECRETS of a subterranean factory engaged in the manufacture of Israeli\r\nnuclear weapons have been uncovered by The Sunday Times Insight team.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nHidden beneath the Negev desert, the factory has been producing atomic\r\nwarheads for the last 20 years. Now it has almost certainly begun\r\nmanufacturing thermo-nuclear weapons, with yields big enough to destroy\r\nentire cities.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nInformation about Israel's capacity to manufacture the bomb come from\r\nthe testimony of Mordechai Vanunu, a 31-year-old Israeli who worked as\r\na nuclear technician for nearly 10 years in Machon 2 - a top secret,\r\nunderground bunker built to provide the vital components necessary for\r\nweapons production at Dimona, the Israeli nuclear research\r\nestablishment.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nVanunu's evidence has surprised nuclear weapons experts who were\r\napproached by Insight to verify its accuracy because it shows that\r\nIsrael does not just have the atom bomb - which has been long suspected\r\n- but that it has become a major nuclear power.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nVanunu's testimony and pictures, which have been scrutinised by nuclear\r\nexperts on both sides of the Atlantic, show that Israel has developed\r\nthe sophisticated and highly classified techniques needed to build up a\r\nformidable nuclear arsenal. They confirm that:<br>\r\n<br>\r\nIsrael now ranks as the world's sixth most powerful nuclear power,\r\nafterAmerica, the Soviet Union, Britain France and China - with an\r\narsenal far greater than than those other countries, such as India,\r\nPakistan and South Africa, which have also been suspected of developing\r\nnuclear weapons.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nIt has possessed its secret weapons factory for more than two decades,\r\nhiding its plutonium extraction processes from spy satellites and\r\nindependent inspections during the 1960s by burying it beneath an\r\ninnocuous, little used building.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nThe plant is equipped with French plutonium extracting technology,\r\nwhich transformed Dimona from a civilian research establishment to a\r\nbomb production facility. Plutonium production rates amount to 40\r\nkilograms a year, enough to build 10 bombs. In the past six years\r\nIsrael has added further equipment to make components for\r\nthermo-nuclear devices.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nThe 26 megawatt reactor, also built by the French, has been expanded\r\nand is probably now operating at 150 megawatts to allow it to extract\r\nmore plutonium. An ingenious cooling system disguises the output.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nThe nuclear scientists consulted by The Sunday Times are convinced by\r\nVanunu's evidence. They calculate that at least 100 and as many as 200\r\nnuclear weapons of varying destructive power have been assembled - 10\r\ntimes the previously estimated strength of Israel's nuclear arsenal.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nThe scientists include Theodore Taylor, one of the world's most\r\nexperienced nuclear weapons experts. He was taught by Robert\r\nOppenheimer, the father of the atomic bomb, and worked on America's\r\nfirst bomb designs. He later went on to head the Pentagon's atomic\r\nweapons test programme.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nDr Taylor studied the photographs taken by Vanunu inside Dimona and a\r\ntranscript of his evidence near Washington DC last week. He said:\r\n'There should no longer be any doubt that Israel is, and for at least a\r\ndecade has been, a fully-fledged nuclear weapons state. The Israeli\r\nnuclear weapons programme is considerably more advanced than indicated\r\nby any previous report or conjectures of which I am aware. '<br>\r\n<br>\r\nHe added that Vanunu's testimony was entirely consistent with an\r\nIsraeli capacity to produce 10 nuclear weapons a year that are\r\nsignificantly smaller, lighter and more efficient than the first types\r\nof weapons developed by Russia, America, Britain, France or China.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nAnother scientist who authenticated the evidence uncovered by Insight\r\nis Dr Frank Barnaby, a nuclear physicist who worked at Aldermaston, the\r\nBritish nuclear weapons research establishment in Berkshire and who\r\nrecently retired as the director of the Swedish Institute for Peace\r\nResearch, which monitors nuclear profileration.<br>\r\n<br>\r\n'As a nuclear physicist,' says Barnaby 'it was clear to me that details\r\nhe gave me were scientifically accurate and clearly showed that he had\r\nnot only worked on these processes but knew the details of the\r\ntechniques. Also the flow rates through the plant, which he quotes\r\nexactly confirm the quantities of plutonium that were being made. '<br>\r\n<br>\r\nVanunu says that, despite tight security, he was able to smuggle a\r\ncamera into Machon 2 and take more than 60 photographs. Insight\r\ndebriefed him for four weeks and invited Barnaby to interview Vanunu in\r\nan attempt to find scientific flaws in his story. 'His testimony is\r\ntotally convincing,' concluded Barnaby.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nThe assessments of Taylor and Barnaby have been confirmed by other top\r\nnuclear scientists who were shown the pictures and detailed evidence.\r\nBecause they work in sensitive positions in Britain's atomic energy\r\nindustry and nuclear weapons manufacturing they have asked to remain\r\nanonymous.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nIsrael has refused to comment on the evidence. But it has confirmed\r\nthat Vanunu did work for the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission in\r\nDimona.&nbsp; [...]<br>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n__________________________________<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);\">propaganda\r\nalert:<\/span><br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">President\r\n<span>Obama<\/span>\r\n<span>threatens<\/span>\r\n<span>Iran<\/span>\r\nand <span>Syria<\/span>:\r\n\"I will always stand with Israel\"<\/span><br>\r\n<br>\r\nby Cem Ert&uuml;r, San Francisco Bay Area Independent Media Center,\r\n25 April 2012<br>\r\n<br>\r\nhttp:\/\/www.indybay.org\/newsitems\/2012\/04\/25\/18712085.php<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n__________________________________<br>\r\n<br>\r\n<br>\r\n\r\n\r\n\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/www.indybay.org\/newsitems\/2012\/09\/28\/18722591.php","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"\u201cWith over 2000 highly operational nuclear weapons already in the world, it is ironic, to say the least, that Iran\u2019s nuclear energy program is considered by the US and its allies as a threat to \u201cglobal security\u201d. [\u2026] Israel, which follows a policy of nuclear ambiguity, never comments on its nuclear capabilities. However, they are widely known to possess 300 to 400 nuclear warheads with 80 of them in high operational alert [\u2026], that is, they are ready to fire.\u201d [Dr Ismail Salami\u2019s article entitled \u2018Nuclear Crucifixion: Fake Data and Ficticious Reports used as A Pretext to Wage War on Iran\u2019] http:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/nuclear-crucifixion-fake-data-and-ficticious-reports-used-as-a-pretext-to-wage-war-on-iran\/ ","numcomment":5,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2012\/09\/256132.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":256134,"heading":"Good Report","article":"The News reports, the documentation and the prospective were resonant with the facts. A well researched article showing solid evidence and testimony from primary sources.\r\nWell done.","author":"thank you","parent_id":256132,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-30 11:03:58","modified":"2012-09-30 11:03:58","fileurl":""},{"id":256136,"heading":"this is odd","article":"both of those pictures link here ^\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/09\/wall-street-journal-28-september-2012.jpg\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/09\/sunday-times-5-october-1986.jpg\r\n\r\nwas this blog always blank or did someone delete it or what  (most articles have pictures that either are on this server or link to something live - I consider it suspicious when pictures are linked like this - can be used to track viewers, like web bugs) ","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":256132,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-30 11:36:19","modified":"2012-09-30 11:36:19","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/well_sourced_-_from_blank_blog.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/well_sourced_-_from_blank_blog.jpg"}},{"id":256139,"heading":"Netenyaho is very funny","article":"the one with Bebe pointing at the bomb.  I can't stop laughing.\r\nWas this person serious?  Or is this high satire on an international scale?  One has to wonder.  Do they mock themselves on purpose?\r\nEven his own Mossad says there aren't any weapons production.  The guy's a loon.  But a funny one if it weren't for all the FKN nukes he controls and is wagging under the table.","author":"That cartoon!","parent_id":256132,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-30 12:03:52","modified":"2012-09-30 12:03:52","fileurl":""},{"id":256140,"heading":"ah ha - Global Research","article":"By Cem Ert\u00fcr. Global Research, June 09, 2012\r\n\r\n\r\nFlashback: U.S. propaganda in the run up to the nuclear bombings\r\n\r\nPropaganda alert compiled by Cem Ert\u00fcr. Global Research, August 05, 2012.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nPresident Obama threatens Iran and Syria: &quot;I will always stand with\r\n\r\nby Cem Ert\u00fcr Wednesday Apr 25th, 2012 9:33 AM.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nwww.911forum.org.uk\/board\/viewtopic.php?p=162567\r\n\r\nSyrian border propaganda alert compiled by Cem Ert\u00fcr 19 September 2012\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nCem Ertur. Affiliations. Member Since. Nov 3, 2011\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/911blogger.com\/blog\/5608.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nDisclaimer\r\n\r\n911blogger.com seeks to cover a broad spectrum of news, posts in the blogs section are the responsibility of the poster, readers are encouraged to check the facts and form their own conclusions.\r\n\r\n\r\ncem's blog\r\n\r\nSubmitted by cem on Mon, 04\/16\/2012 - 5:27pm\r\n\r\nUS ambassador: Withdrawal from Afghanistan would set the stage for another 9\/11\r\n\r\n\r\n[propaganda alert]\r\n\r\nby Cem Ert\u00fcr\r\n\r\n16 April 2012\r\n\r\nthis blog ^ of his is full of such links - all pictures of corporate media\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/cache.daylife.com\/imageserve\/0grO0Xw4wx2Z1\/x610.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/img.thesun.co.uk\/multimedia\/archive\/01157\/SNN0409C--380_1157347a.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cache.daylife.com\/imageserve\/0c3J17u5A4b7j\/610x.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/www.indymedia.org.uk\/images\/2010\/12\/471352.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/02\/bus-no-30-7-7-bombers-tanweer-sidique-khan-hussein-daily-mirror-2-february-20111.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/02\/terrifying-pics-of-7-7-bomb-factory-revealed-daily-mirror-2-february-20113.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/02\/daily-mirror-2-february-20112.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/02\/daily-telegraph-2-february-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/daily-telegraph-4-february-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/02\/yorkshire-post-21-february-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/daily-mail-1-march-20114-e1299028715537.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/the-times-1-march-20111.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/daily-telegraph_5-march-20113.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/the-scotsman-9-mar-20112.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/the-guardian-18-march-20111-e1300500392331.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/new-york-times-20-march-2003-and-20-march-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/04\/los-angeles-times-20-march-2003-and-20-march-20111.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/daily-telegraph-30-march-20114.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/metro-30-march-20112.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/04\/daily-telegraph-4-april-20112.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/04\/sunday-express-17-april-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/04\/daily-telegraph-26-april-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/04\/the-independent-31-march-20111.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/05\/the-sun-5-may-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/05\/the-independent-14-may-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/09\/daily-telegraph-5-september-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/the-observer-20-march-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/independent-on-sunday-28-august-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/the-independent-21-october-20111.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/the-guardian-21-october-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/the-independent-21-october-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/us-secretary-of-defense-donald-rumsfeld-holds-up-a-photo-of-us-special-forces-on-horseback-in-afghanistan-during-a-press-conference-great-lakes-illinois-16-november-2001.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/washington-times-28-october-2011.jpg\r\nhttp:\/\/cemertur.files.wordpress.com\/2011\/11\/poppy-appeal-2011-poster-featuring-tennis-player-andy-murray.jpg\r\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - \r\n\r\n\r\nand so on..  all the hits are like this.  But he raises good issues - no complaint there.\r\n\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":256132,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-30 12:07:08","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:20","fileurl":""},{"id":256141,"heading":"but ya gotta admit","article":"with him standing there trying to look serious when he knew that everyone knew that he was lying through his teeth and he knew that they knew it.  Funnest thing I've ever seen.\r\n\r\nThen I think about this person in control of israel's nuclear arsenal and the laughter stops.  They sure were vindictive to  Mordechai Vanunu.","author":"that pose!","parent_id":256132,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-30 12:15:01","modified":"2012-09-30 12:15:01","fileurl":""}]}