{"article":{"id":255129,"heading":"Hotter than the Dust Bowl, but not hot enough for denialists","author":"Systemic Disorder","created":"2012-08-24 19:11:51","modified":"2012-09-05 23:08:58","last_modified":"Thu, 06 Sep 2012 06:08:58","article":"

There is delusion, and then there is willful fantasy. At what point does the first pass into the second?

Wherever on the anti-science continuum lies the point we might wish to pinpoint, surely global-warming denialists have slid past, riding a toboggan down a slope so steep it threatens to become a cliff. And with the snow rapidly melting, there are many exposed rocks that could bring the ride to a sharp halt.

Unless you live in Seattle, Dublin or Edinburgh, this Northern Hemisphere summer has been difficult to ignore. The United States last month experienced its hottest month in recorded history, breaking the record set in July 1936 at the peak of the Dust Bowl, when farming became nearly impossible in the Great Plains because of heat and drought. As the Dust Bowl years of the mid-1930s still weigh heavily in the U.S. psyche, that is a particularly dramatic record.

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<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/systemicdisorder.wordpress.com","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"The only plausible explanation for global warming is human activity. So we should ask the obvious question: Who profits from the activity that causes global warming and who funds the anti-science global-warming denialist groups?\r\n","numcomment":91,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2012\/08\/255129.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":255130,"heading":"tireless parrots on 'Global Warming"","article":"what\r\n"Northern Hemisphere summer has been difficult to ignore."\r\nWell, so have the increasingly severe winters, early snows, late snows, snow where there hasn't been any in many decades, record colds etc. etc. etc.\r\n\r\nJust another feverish piece about how the weather is a result of the dis proven 'warming' trend' \r\n\r\nGlobal Warming Fraud? | Conservative News, Views & Books\r\nWhen hackers released thousands of documents generated by climate scientists at the highly influential Climatic Research Unit at Britain's University of East Anglia last year, much evidence of fraud, dishonesty and mistakes in support of the theory of man-made global warming came to public light\r\nhttp:\/\/www.humanevents.com\/2010\/06\/09\/global-warming-fraud\/\r\nCO2 blah blah, greenhouse gas emissions blah blah danger danger blah blah...\r\nThis totally ignores the role of HAARP, chemtrails and the incentive of a weather war waged against the people to yoke them with a carbon tax, paid to the IMF.\r\nHAARP: Weather Control\r\nHAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is a little-known, yet critically is such a powerful technology it could be used to heat the ionosphere to turn weather into a weapon of war.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.wanttoknow.info\/war\/haarp_weather_modification_electromagnetic_warfare_weapons\r\nIt's all there look it up.","author":"HAARP v. 'Global Warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-24 19:46:14","modified":"2012-08-24 19:46:14","fileurl":""},{"id":255134,"heading":"A comparative guide to science denial","article":"When you watch science denial in action, you will see the same sort of arguments being used over and over, often in much the same order. Here is a handy cut out and keep guide, with examples from creationists, climate change deniers and the tobacco industry. \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/A_comparative_guide_to_science_denial \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Denialism \r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Conspiracy_Theories \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/HAARP \r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"rationalwiki","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-08-24 22:03:32","modified":"2012-08-24 22:03:32","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/08\/123-science-denial.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/08\/123-science-denial.jpg"}},{"id":255135,"heading":"same as before","article":"you notice that the monkeys can't read the previous sources but are able to come up with their own [1 ] source from an unknown source [ except to itself ] !!!\r\nYes, the IMF is using HAARP to extort a carbon tax from the people.\r\nbite me","author":"HAARP v. 'Global Warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-24 22:08:23","modified":"2012-08-24 22:08:23","fileurl":""},{"id":255141,"heading":"not hot enough?","article":"http:\/\/www.qando.net\/?p=12377\r\n\r\nGlobal cooling?\r\nPublished January 31, 2012 | By Bruce McQuain\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nBut, but, polar bears, rising oceans, melting ice, oh my:\r\n\r\n The supposed \u2018consensus\u2019 on man-made global warming is facing an inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing the planet has not warmed for the past 15 years. The figures suggest that we could even be heading for a mini ice age to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century. Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.\r\n\r\nSo we still have the freak weather which points toward another force acting upon our weather patterns.\r\nRemember that the issue of a carbon tax to the IMF is a matter of billions if not trillions of dollars worth of potential wealth redistribution i. e. profit for interested parties.\r\nI also believe that the banking cartel of degenerate, psychopaths is the center of the dark network which has permeated all aspects of our civil society for revenue collection purposes.\r\nThey alone have the incentive and power to control policies, institutions and even military operations under a veil of 'national security' to direct hidden agendas. Only, this agenda is not quite so well hidden if one observes the relentless stream of 'climate change \/ 'global warming' propaganda pieces which are now trying to equate genuine skepticism in view of open data, to mental illness. How very Soviet Union of this tactic.\r\n***\r\nGlobal cooling?\r\nPublished January 31, 2012 | By Bruce McQuain\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nBut, but, polar bears, rising oceans, melting ice, oh my:\r\n\r\n The supposed \u2018consensus\u2019 on man-made global warming is facing an inconvenient challenge after the release of new temperature data showing the planet has not warmed for the past 15 years. The figures suggest that we could even be heading for a mini ice age to rival the 70-year temperature drop that saw frost fairs held on the Thames in the 17th Century. Based on readings from more than 30,000 measuring stations, the data was issued last week without fanfare by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit. It confirms that the rising trend in world temperatures ended in 1997.\r\n\r\n ","author":"HAARP v. 'Global Warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-25 14:41:48","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:11","fileurl":""},{"id":255143,"heading":"\u2018Global warming stopped in 1998\u2032\u2013Only if you flagrantly cherry pick","article":"\r\nObjection: Global temperatures have been trending down since 1998. Global warming is over.\r\n\r\nAnswer: At the time, 1998 was a record high year in both the CRU and the NASA GISS analyses. In fact, it blew away the previous record by .2 degrees C. (That previous record went all the way back to 1997, by the way!)\r\n\r\nAccording to NASA, it was elevated far above the trend line because 1998 was the year of the strongest El Nino of the century. Choosing that year as a starting point is a classic cherry pick and demonstrates why it is necessary to remove chaotic year-to year-variability (aka: weather) by smoothing out the data. Looking at CRU\u2019s graph below, you can see the result of that smoothing in black.\r\n\r\nClearly 1998 is an anomaly and the trend has not reversed. (Even the apparent leveling at the end is not the real smoothing. The smoothed trend in 2005 depends on all of its surrounding years, including a few years still in the future.) By the way, choosing the CRU analysis is also a cherry pick \u2014 NASA has 2005 breaking the 1998 record, though by very little.\r\n\r\nNow, this is an excusable mistake for average folks who do not need the rigors of statistical analysis in their day jobs. But any scientist in pretty much any field knows that you cannot extract meaningful information about trends in noisy data from single-year end points. It\u2019s hard to hear a scientist make this argument and still believe they speak with integrity in this debate \u2014 seems more like an abuse of the trust placed in them as scientists. Bob Carter is just such a voice, and was the first to trot out this argument in an article in the Daily Telegraph. Since then it has echoed far and wide and been used by Richard Lindzen as well as a host of skeptic websites.\r\n\r\nInterestingly, Bob Carter seems to know what he is doing. He tries to pre-empt objections in his article by insinuating that any choice of starting point (say, 1978) will just be a cherry pick with the opposite motive! But cherry picking is about choosing data for the sole purpose of supporting a pre-conceived conclusion. It is not the simple act of choosing at all. One must choose some starting point. In the case of his example year, 1978, it\u2019s often chosen simply because it is the first year that satellite records of tropospheric temperatures were available.\r\n\r\nSo what choices are there? What are the reasons for those choices? What conclusions we can draw from them?\r\n\r\n As mentioned above, you could choose to examine the last 30 years \u2014 that is when both surface and tropospheric readings have been available. We have experienced warming of approximately .2 degrees C\/decade during this time. It would take a couple of decades trending down before we could say the recent warming ended in 1998.\r\n You could choose 1970 in the NASA GISS analysis \u2014 the start of the late 20th century warming, and as such a significant feature of the temperature record. The surface temperature over this period shows .6 degrees C warming.\r\n You could choose 1965 in the CRU analysis \u2014 when the recent warming started in their record. It shows around .5 degrees C warming of the smoothed trend line.\r\n You could choose 1880 in the NASA record \u2014 it shows .8 degrees C warming.\r\n You could choose 1855 in the CRU record \u2014 it shows .8 degrees C warming. As with the trend above, we can not say it is over without many decades more data indicating cooling.\r\n You could choose to look at the last 500 years in the bore hole record analysis \u2014 that is its entire length. It puts today about 1 degree C above the first three centuries of that record. In that kind of analysis, today\u2019s record will be hidden from view for many decades.\r\n You could choose to look at the last 1,000 years, because that is as far back as the dendrochronology studies reliably go. Then the conclusion is:\r\n\r\n Although each of the temperature reconstructions are different (due to differing calibration methods and data used), they all show some similar patterns of temperature change over the last several centuries. Most striking is the fact that each record reveals that the 20th century is the warmest of the entire record, and that warming was most dramatic after 1920.\r\n\r\n You could choose to look at the entire period of time since the end of the last ice age, around 10,000 years ago. Then the conclusion is that GHG warming has reversed a long and stable period of slight downward trend, and we are now at a global temperature not experienced in the history of human civilization \u2014 the entire Holocene. It will be many centuries until such a long view of today\u2019s climate is available. The situation is a bit more urgent than that!\r\n\r\nThat about covers any period of time relevant to today\u2019s society. \u201cIt has stopped warming\u201d is only supported by selecting a single year out of context and using a seven-year window to look at multi-decadal trends in climate. That\u2019s a classic cherry pick.\r\n\r\n\u2018There is no evidence of significant global warming\u2019 \u2014 Yes, there is\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/climate-energy\/there-is-no-evidence\/ \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\u2018The temperature record is unreliable\u2019\u2013But temperature trends are clear and widely corroborated\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/climate-energy\/the-temperature-record-is-simply-unreliable\/ \r\n\r\n\r\n\u2018The scientists aren\u2019t even sure\u2019 \u2014 No scientist ever is\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/climate-energy\/the-scientists-arent-even-sure\/ \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/climate-energy\/there-is-no-proof-that-co2-is-causing-global-warming\/\r\n\r\n\r\nThe satellites show cooling\u2019\u2013No, they don\u2019t\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/climate-energy\/the-satellites-show-cooling\/ \r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/series\/skeptics \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cosmosmagazine.com\/blog\/5808\/just-facts-aint-enough-maam \r\n","author":"<\/p>","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-26 01:20:39","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:11","fileurl":""},{"id":255144,"heading":"amazing unbelievable incredible","article":"back for more,Bozo?\r\naren't all of your pathetic 'sources' from the same site?\r\noh, and, what?...cosmos magazine? wow\r\n\r\nIsn't that "cherry picking"? No, wait; it's fishing in your own fishbowl! ha ha ha\r\n\r\nSorry, Bozo. there is no warming trend, no excuse to burden the people with a carbon tax and not even support for your meaningless conjecture.when one considers the various factors now open to anyone with a curious mind.\r\nIn fact, under the above circumstances, [scroll up, dear reader ] it would be up to the Operation Cloverleaf and HAARP directors to provide oversight to assure these technologies are *not* being used to wage a war of weather on the people to extort a carbon tax under the fig leaf of "geo-engineering" and research.\r\n","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-26 02:00:00","modified":"2012-08-26 02:00:00","fileurl":""},{"id":255149,"heading":"\u2018The satellites show cooling\u2019\u2013No, they don\u2019t","article":"\u2018The satellites show cooling\u2019\u2013No, they don\u2019t \r\n\r\nObjection: Satellite readings, which are much more accurate, show that the earth is in fact cooling.\r\n\r\nI wonder how long before this one stops coming up?\r\n\r\nAnswer: There are a few advantages to the satellite readings,mainly the more uniform global coverage and the fact that readings can be taken at different altitudes. However, it is an extremely complicated process which uses microwaves emitted by the oxygen in the atmosphere as a proxy for temperature.\r\n\r\nThe complications arise from many things, including decay of the satellite orbits, splicing together and calibrating records from different instruments, trying to separate the signals by the layer of atmosphere they originate from, etc. It is a little ironic that the same people who distrust the surface record so happily embrace this even-more-convoluted exercise in data processing!\r\n\r\nAnyway, it has been many years since the satellite analysis showed cooling.\r\n\r\nUntil recently, though, one of the many analyses of tropospheric temperatures did show very little warming and was in direct contradiction to model predictions that say the troposphere should warm significantly in an enhanced greenhouse environment. Something had to be wrong, the observations or the model predictions. Naturally, the skeptics had no doubt it was the models that were off.\r\n\r\nHowever, it turns out that additional errors were uncovered and the MSU Satellite temperature analysis now shows warming well in line with model expectations. Real Climate has a good rundown of the technical details for those with the stomach for it. In short, this long-running debate turned out to be a great validation of the models and a real death blow to the \u201cearth is not warming\u201d crowd.\r\n\r\nBeware of zombies!\r\n\r\n","author":"anti-zombie","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/png","created":"2012-08-26 22:56:19","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:11","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/08\/1-satellite_temperatures.png","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/08\/1-satellite_temperatures.png"}},{"id":255152,"heading":"that graph!","article":"oh, gee. all the way to 2005 when the raw data was 'lost' in 2009 !\r\n\r\nClimategate: They have lost the data upon which the theory of global warming is based they knew it was lost years ago but failed to disclose it\r\nhttp:\/\/www.beaufortobserver.net\/Articles-c-2009-11-29-240479.112112_Climategate_They_have_lost_the_data_upon_which_the_theory_of_global_warming_is_based.html\r\nso, as I've said before, any charts from such is bull flop.\r\nwhere do you get this stuff?\r\nI know one thing, we sure have some dedicated defenders of this piece of global warming propaganda that can't deal with real issues of threats to our biosphere,\r\n[ scroll up, see for yourselves ]","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming"","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-26 23:33:51","modified":"2012-08-26 23:33:51","fileurl":""},{"id":255166,"heading":"\u2018There is no evidence\u2019 \u2014 Yes, there is","article":"\r\n\r\nObjection: Despite what the computer models tell us, there is actually no evidence of significant global warming.\r\n\r\nAnswer: Global warming is not an output of computer models; it is a conclusion based on observations of a great many global indicators. By far the most straightforward evidence is the actual surface temperature record. While there are places \u2014 in England, for example \u2014 that have records going back several centuries, the two major global temperature analyses can only go back around 150 years due to their requirements for both quantity and distribution of temperature recording stations.\r\n\r\nThese are the two most reputable globally and seasonally averaged temperature trend analyses:\r\n\r\n\r\n NASA GISS direct surface temperature analysis\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/data.giss.nasa.gov\/gistemp\/ \r\n\r\n\r\n CRU direct surface temperature analysis\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cru.uea.ac.uk\/cru\/info\/warming\/ \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nBoth trends are definitely and significantly up. In addition to direct measurements of surface temperature, there are many other measurements and indicators that support the general direction and magnitude of the change the earth is currently undergoing. The following diverse empirical observations lead to the same unequivocal conclusion that the earth is warming:\r\n\r\n Satellite Data\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Satellite_temperature_measurements \r\n\r\n\r\n Radiosondes\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/cdiac.esd.ornl.gov\/trends\/temp\/angell\/angell.html \r\n\r\n\r\n Borehole analysis\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.ncdc.noaa.gov\/paleo\/globalwarming\/pollack.html \r\n\r\n\r\n Glacial melt observations\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/nsidc.org\/cryosphere\/sotc\/glacier_balance.html \r\n\r\n\r\n Sea ice melt\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/nsidc.org\/news\/press\/20050928_trendscontinue.html \r\n\r\n\r\n Sea level rise\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/sealevel.colorado.edu\/ \r\n\r\n\r\n Proxy Reconstructions\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.ncdc.noaa.gov\/paleo\/globalwarming\/paleolast.html \r\n\r\n\r\n Permafrost melt\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/mg18725124.500 \r\n\r\n\r\nThere is simply no room for doubt: the Earth is undergoing a rapid and large warming trend.\r\n\r\n","author":"<\/p>","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-27 23:37:17","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:11","fileurl":""},{"id":255172,"heading":"so much crap so little a shovel","article":"'sea level rise\r\nThe first one I picked...\r\n\r\nChanging Tides: Research Center Under Fire for 'Adjusted' Sea ...\r\nThe University of Colorado's Sea Level Research Group decided in May to add 0.3mm every year to its actual measurements of sea levels, sparking criticism from experts who called it an attempt to exaggerate the effects of global warming.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/scitech\/2011\/06\/17\/research-center-under-fire-for-adjusted-sea-level-data\/\r\nI suspect each and every one of the URLs Bozo has given is from a carbon tax friendly source.\r\n\r\n\r\nD","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-28 05:03:13","modified":"2012-08-28 05:03:13","fileurl":""},{"id":255216,"heading":"well well well","article":"\r\nWww.humanevents.com has one IP number (108.171.169.20) , which is the same as for humanevents.com. \r\n\r\nHumanevents.com point to the same IP. You might also be interested in the competitors: jihadwatch.org, newsmax.com, worldtribune.com, townhall.com, spectator.org and powerlineblog.com.\r\n\r\nAnn Coulter is Legal Affairs Correspondent for HUMAN EVENTS\r\n\r\n\r\nwww.wanttoknow.info\r\n\r\nFred Burks -\r\n\r\n"The evidence is inconclusive"\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 16:35:57","modified":"2012-09-01 16:35:57","fileurl":""},{"id":255238,"heading":" - the more they stay the same","article":"The zionists obliged my predictions with an ENMOD event\r\n\r\nthey are still spraying chemtrails\r\n\r\nGo ahead and pay this ultra tax, this insurance, and know that it doesn't amount to anything, because the weather is controlled\r\n\r\n\r\nthey have successfully called a hurricane direct hit nearly a week ahead of time? ENMOD. HAARP.\r\n\r\nThe Jews News\r\n\r\nThe Jews Choose\r\n\r\nLuxefaire.com And Autodidactics.com Back In Service\r\n\r\nThe HAARP Patent\r\n\r\nDEVILVISION: My Book About ENMOD Chapter 1-11\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-01 17:30:58","modified":"2012-09-01 17:30:58","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/08\/amazing.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/08\/amazing.jpg"}},{"id":255239,"heading":"again","article":"ah yes, the inference to 'denialist' and dehydrated water.\r\nOnly the most dedicated denialist would rule out the obvious weather war being waged on the people of Earth to extort a carbon tax to the IMF which has all the elements of a crime.\r\nMethod Opportunity and Motive","author":"HAARP v. 'gobal warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 18:49:34","modified":"2012-09-01 18:49:34","fileurl":""},{"id":255243,"heading":"that hurricane 'direct hit'","article":"didn't hit Tampa, it hit the Louisiana sink hole then just went right over us\r\n\r\nthis is why the radiation here went down then back up again BTW\r\n\r\nI obtained a sample of that rain too, a rather unique sample well worth getting up for","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 19:56:07","modified":"2012-09-01 19:56:07","fileurl":""},{"id":255245,"heading":"in view of the psycho","article":"Is that the best they have?\r\nTo not address the prospect of a deliberate and artificial weather modification [ war ] to serve the IMF and their carbon tax agenda is to be a raving 'denialist'.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 20:06:19","modified":"2012-09-01 20:06:19","fileurl":""},{"id":255247,"heading":"you were completely wrong - again","article":"that's point # 1\r\n\r\n# 2 is you can't admit it\r\n\r\n# 3 is you have never collected much less tested any chemtrail samples, ever\r\n\r\nso what do we have?\r\n\r\n- unsubstantiated claims from a person making money selling unsubstantiated claims.","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 20:11:49","modified":"2012-09-01 20:11:49","fileurl":""},{"id":255250,"heading":"back to crap again","article":"there you go again, making up crap with out any foundation like a quote with a a URL about what you're saying I said. \r\nWeather War is a valid military concept and the IMF has a vested interest in making it happen, as well as having monkeys like 'Hex' dance for it.\r\n","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 20:21:05","modified":"2012-09-01 20:21:05","fileurl":""},{"id":255253,"heading":"show me a chemtrail sample then we'll talk","article":"I have a year and a half of rain samples all reduced to powder and checked for radiation.","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 20:39:54","modified":"2012-09-01 20:39:54","fileurl":""},{"id":255255,"heading":"it's called dirversion","article":"As usual, 'Hex' is using the tactic of diversion.\r\nWhere did I ever say I took chemtrail samples? This is about the motivation, opportunity and method the IMF has to produce freak droughts and storms to goad the people into a carbon tax.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming"","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 20:47:49","modified":"2012-09-01 20:47:49","fileurl":""},{"id":255257,"heading":"where did I ever say I was JA or smashy","article":"by HAARP v. 'Global Warming' Thursday, Aug. 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.wanttoknow.info\/war\/haarp_weather_modification_electromagnetic_warfare_weapons \r\nIt's all there look it up.\r\n\r\n"The evidence is inconclusive"\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 20:56:47","modified":"2012-09-01 20:56:47","fileurl":""},{"id":255259,"heading":"even more for the noise-bot","article":"And then we have this:\r\nActivist Post: Weather Wars and the Devil's HAARP\r\nThe weather forces of Earth are volatile indeed. Even in the human era we have passed through cataclysmic times of both fire and ice, destruction and rebirth; recorded throughout the world in legends and religious texts.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.activistpost.com\/2010\/08\/weather-wars-and-devils-haarp.html","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 21:00:36","modified":"2012-09-01 21:00:36","fileurl":""},{"id":255261,"heading":"as suspected - exxon and coal","article":"\r\n\r\nthe above article cites these two "experts" -\r\n\r\nVincent Gray\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.desmogblog.com\/vincent-gray\r\n\r\nGray's signature is displayed alongside a full-page ad funded by the CATO institute that appeared in numerous newspapers including the Washington Post, the New York Times and the Chicago Tribune in 2009.\r\n\r\nGray was a speaker at the Heartland Institute\r\n\r\nA search of 22,000 academic journals shows that Gray has never been published in a peer-reviewed journal on the subject of climate change. Gray has published peer-reviewed scientific work on coal.\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.sourcewatch.org\/index.php?title=Vincent_Gray\r\n\r\n\r\nTim Ball\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.desmogblog.com\/tim-ball\r\n\r\n"scientific advisor" to the Exxon-funded Friends of Science (FoS), and is associated with the Frontier Centre for Public Policy (FCPP) as well as numerous other think tanks and right-wing organizations.\r\n\r\nDr. Michael Mann sued Tim Ball and the Frontier Center For Public Policy for libel.\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.sourcewatch.org\/index.php?title=Tim_Ball\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 21:23:30","modified":"2012-09-01 21:23:30","fileurl":""},{"id":255263,"heading":"more distraction","article":"more distraction and proven fraud.\r\nThe only thing that cannot be addressed is the obvious incentive for the IMF to yoke the people with a carbon tax:\r\n\r\nWhat do HAARP, Chemtrails, and Global Warming all have in ...\r\nBy Barbara H. Peterson. Farm Wars. Chemtrails are bad news. They contain barium and aluminum, which have the potential to destroy ecosystems around the world.\r\nhttp:\/\/farmwars.info\/?p=2731","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 22:32:42","modified":"2012-09-01 22:32:42","fileurl":""},{"id":255264,"heading":"show me a chemtrail sample then we'll talk","article":"I'm not going to play this cat & mouse game\r\n\r\nYou have no data to support 'chemtrails'\r\n\r\nand big energy echo chamber FUD isn't science\r\n\r\nI do far more important things than sell trinkets and misinformation - I have 3 radio stations to run, among other things. Real over the air broadcast stations, not internet bitcasts..\r\n\r\nYou could be doing something useful like making radiation detectors. But I highly doubt you have the skill. Rock tumbling seems to be about your limit.\r\n\r\nI've given away how to build 4 different designs -\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/hackaday.com\/2011\/03\/18\/seeed-looks-for-help-developing-an-open-source-radiation-detector\/#comments\r\n\r\nI started out looking through a microscope lens in the dark for radiation, now a year and a half later theres 4 designs. \r\n\r\n4 years ago I started out with 1 radio station, now theres 3, all in stereo too. One has a DRM datastream that sends pictures you can decode without any special hardware, just by feeding FM tuner audio into your soundcard and running winDRM\r\n\r\nIf I can do things like these surely you can collect 1 lousy chemtrail sample","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 22:58:39","modified":"2012-09-01 22:58:39","fileurl":""},{"id":255265,"heading":"don't care what you want you psycho","article":"proven climategate fraud\r\nJunk Scientist Fraudsters Deleted Data That Proved Earth Was ...\r\nClimategate: it's all unravelling now Climate Depot- Daily Express Junk Scientists deleted global cooling data that showed the earth was cooling not ... There is no confidence that any of the data is real. Global warming is a fraud.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.sodahead.com\/united-states\/junk-scientist-fraudsters-deleted-data-that-proved-earth-was-cooling\/blog-206411\/","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-01 23:16:45","modified":"2012-09-01 23:16:45","fileurl":""},{"id":255294,"heading":"Global warming is NOT a hoax","article":"Objection: Global warming is a hoax perpetrated by environmental extremists and liberals who want an excuse for more big government (and\/or world government via the U.N.).\r\n\r\nThis is a common line, regardless of how ridiculous it is, so it should not go unanswered.\r\n\r\nAnswer: Here is a list of organizations that accept anthropogenic global warming as real and scientifically well-supported:\r\n\r\n NASA\u2019s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS): http:\/\/www.giss.nasa.gov\/edu\/gwdebate\/ \r\n\r\n National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA): http:\/\/www.ncdc.noaa.gov\/oa\/climate\/globalwarming.html\r\n\r\n Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC): http:\/\/www.grida.no\/climate\/ipcc_tar\/wg1\/index.htm\r\n\r\n National Academy of Sciences (NAS): http:\/\/books.nap.edu\/collections\/global_warming\/index.html\r\n\r\n State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC) \u2013 http:\/\/www.socc.ca\/permafrost\/permafrost_future_e.cfm\r\n\r\n Environmental Protection Agency (EPA): http:\/\/epa.gov\/climatechange\/index.html\r\n\r\n The Royal Society of the UK (RS) \u2013 http:\/\/www.royalsoc.ac.uk\/page.asp?id=3135\r\n\r\n American Geophysical Union (AGU): \r\nhttp:\/\/www.agu.org\/sci_soc\/policy\/climate_change_position.html\r\n\r\n American Meteorological Society (AMS): http:\/\/www.ametsoc.org\/policy\/climatechangeresearch_2003.html\r\n\r\n American Institute of Physics (AIP): http:\/\/www.aip.org\/gov\/policy12.html\r\n\r\n National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR): http:\/\/eo.ucar.edu\/basics\/cc_1.html\r\n\r\n American Meteorological Society (AMS): http:\/\/www.ametsoc.org\/policy\/jointacademies.html\r\n\r\n Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS): http:\/\/www.cmos.ca\/climatechangepole.html\r\n\r\nEvery major scientific institution dealing with climate, ocean, and\/or atmosphere agrees that the climate is warming rapidly and the primary cause is human CO2 emissions. In addition to that list, see also this joint statement (PDF) that specifically and unequivocally endorses the work and conclusions of the IPCC Third Assessment report. The statement was issued by:\r\n\r\n Academia Brasiliera de Ciencias (Brazil)\r\n Royal Society of Canada\r\n Chinese Academy of Sciences\r\n Academie des Sciences (France)\r\n Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)\r\n Indian National Science Academy\r\n Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)\r\n Science Council of Japan\r\n Russian Academy of Sciences\r\n Royal Society (United Kingdom)\r\n National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)\r\n\r\nYou can also read this statement [PDF], which includes all the above signatories plus the following:\r\n\r\n Australian Academy of Sciences\r\n Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts\r\n Caribbean Academy of Sciences\r\n Indonesian Academy of Sciences\r\n Royal Irish Academy\r\n Academy of Sciences Malaysia\r\n Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand\r\n Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences\r\n\r\nBut if scientists are too liberal and politicians too unreliable, perhaps you find the opinion of key industry representatives more convincing:\r\n\r\n BP, the largest oil company in the UK and one of the largest in the world, has this opinion:\r\n\r\n There is an increasing consensus that climate change is linked to the consumption of carbon based fuels and that action is required now to avoid further increases in carbon emissions as the global demand for energy increases.\r\n\r\n Shell Oil (yes, as in oil, the fossil fuel) says:\r\n\r\n Shell shares the widespread concern that the emission of greenhouse gases from human activities is leading to changes in the global climate.\r\n\r\n Eighteen CEOs of Canada\u2019s largest corporations had this to say in an open letter to the Prime Minister of Canada:\r\n\r\n Our organizations accept that a strong response is required to the strengthening evidence in the scientific assessments of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). We accept the IPCC consensus that climate change raises the risk of severe consequences for human health and security and the environment. We note that Canada is particularly vulnerable to the impacts of climate change.\r\n\r\nHave the environazis seized the reigns of industrial power, in addition to infiltrating the U.N., the science academies of every developed nation, and the top research institutes of North America? That just doesn\u2019t seem very likely.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/climate-energy\/global-warming-is-a-hoax\/ \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/climate-energy\/there-is-no-consensus\/ \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/grist.org\/series\/skeptics\/ \r\n\r\n","author":"Originaly by Coby Beck","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 10:40:46","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:12","fileurl":""},{"id":255302,"heading":"again","article":"The Climategate scandal erupted on November 19, 2009, when a collection of email messages, data files and data processing programs were leaked from the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit (CRU) located in the UK, revealing scientific fraud and data manipulation by scientists\r\nhttp:\/\/conservapedia.com\/Climategate\r\n\r\nand now these parrots are repeating the same crap.\r\nThe IMF needs to tax you for your 'carbon footprint' ","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming"","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 12:29:15","modified":"2012-09-03 12:29:15","fileurl":""},{"id":255303,"heading":"Climategate debunked by new report","article":"Independent Climate Change Email Review.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cce-review.org\/About.php\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n"Climategate" exposed: Conservative media distort stolen emails.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/mediamatters.org\/research\/2009\/12\/01\/climategate-exposed-conservative-media-distort\/157590\r\n\r\nexxon, coal, and now this 2 year old, debunked smear campaign\r\n\r\n..still waiting for those chemtrail samples","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-03 12:53:01","modified":"2012-09-03 12:53:01","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/cdvcounter.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/cdvcounter.jpg"}},{"id":255304,"heading":"let's take another look at HAARP","article":"The HAARP program.\r\nHAARP chemtrails weather modification electromagnetic weapons ...\r\n\r\nLong term consequences of atmospheric heating are unknown. Changing weather in one place can have a devastating downstream effect.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.bariumblues.com\/haarp1.htm\r\n\r\nLet's take a look at Chemtrails\r\nChemtrails, an Introduction\r\nMar 1, 2002.. If you are just beginning to learn about Chemtrails, the following Introductory article below will give you an overview of how this spraying program began in late 1997 and how the situation stood up to early 2000.\r\nhttp:\/\/educate-yourself.org\/ct\/\r\n\r\nso, in essence, the MOM of criminal activity is all there for the IMF to manipulate the weather in a cooling global environment, to produce not only storms and drought, but tectonic warfare\r\nIn an exclusive interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre on April 17, 2011, independent scientist Leuren Moret has stated that the radiation war against the populations of the United States, Canada, and Mexico has intensified with the intentional distribution of radiation from the March 11, 2011 Fukushima event over the southern, south-west and west coast regions of the U.S. through a record 241 HAARP-triggered tornadoes and associated rainfall.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.examiner.com\/article\/scientist-leuren-moret-radiation-war-intensifies-with-haarp-tornadoes-usa\r\n\r\nso we have method opportunity and motive here.\r\nwhat else does one need except for the obvious intensity of the support crew on this globalloney warming, from paid for quackademics and also the sheer spate of articles pushing this proven hoax. Every week another push for carbon taxes and credits. All to the IMF. Imagine that!\r\nLike the war propaganda it shows obvious agendas in the making by its volume and frequency.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 12:54:57","modified":"2012-09-03 12:54:57","fileurl":""},{"id":255305,"heading":"the hack cycle","article":"it's a pattern\r\nWhen you show the fraud \r\nthey show the coverup\r\nwhen you show the lost raw data\r\nthey go back to the fraud\r\nit's a cycle of numb repetition.\r\nscroll up and see the parrots for yourselves","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 13:01:06","modified":"2012-09-03 13:01:06","fileurl":""},{"id":255306,"heading":"direct from the echo chamber of quacks","article":""lost raw data"\r\n\r\nmy dog ate the chemtrail samples\r\n\r\n\r\nSo, let's see YOUR radiation graph from your claimed radiation detector, not the EPA's - yours\r\n\r\n-you could still build one as I showed how.\r\nthe cdv counter software is free, too\r\n\r\nI have some youtube clips that show other inventors doing the same thing, I'll find them","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 13:07:54","modified":"2012-09-03 13:07:54","fileurl":""},{"id":255307,"heading":"See, you can do it too","article":"2N3055 Alpha Detector\r\n\r\nDe-canned 2N3055 power transistor detecting alpha particles from an Americium -241 source.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=fKNNXvzo8UU\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nHomemade Pin Diode Geiger Counter - Alan Yates\r\n\r\nAnother radiation detection circuit I made. I found it online, and the person who designed it was very kind to assist me.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wl-UggVIDuA\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nPhotodiode Gamma Ray Detector\r\n\r\nMore progress on gamma photon detection using junkbox photodiodes.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=oOEL18OKTUA\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd the dude's website :\r\n\r\nAlan Yates' Laboratory - Photodiode Gamma Ray Detector\r\n\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 13:15:38","modified":"2012-09-03 13:15:38","fileurl":""},{"id":255308,"heading":"you know they're hurting","article":"ahh, the psycho-gatekeeper. kissy face with johnk again?\r\nhow time flies.\r\naside from the obvious interference run from our old psychopath, 'Hex' [ we can now depend on huge amounts of inane graphics, off topic rants, over-spaced noise and OCD riddled fixations...] the topic that seems to trouble these individuals is the riddle of the cooling globe with record cold periods and snow borne disasters to a now waxed 'global warming' fraud.\r\nSo we hear the nonsense phrase "climate change" rammed into the breach of open discovery about the data manipulation destruction and loss at this same time.\r\nSo very interesting.\r\nShut down HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf.","author":"HAARP v. 'climate change'.","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 13:20:40","modified":"2012-09-03 13:20:40","fileurl":""},{"id":255309,"heading":"whoops, here it is","article":"http:\/\/www.vk2zay.net\/article\/265\r\n\r\nSee ^ insted of spewing disinformation you could be building something useful.\r\n\r\n\r\nThis weeks community affairs :\r\n\r\nWeekly Fukushima update, for.\r\n\r\nseptember second, 2012\r\n\r\nRadiation levels, over the past week, have averaged, around, 130, counts per minute which is, about, 12 times, normal background level.\r\n\r\nCobalt, 58, is being detected, in japan.\r\n\r\nHalf life, is only, 71 days.\r\n\r\n\r\nand, neutron activation products, like Cobalt, 60, are also in rubble\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\na, mysterious disease, is killing seals, along, the U S, East, Coast, Fukushima radiation testing, is underway, by government scientists.\r\n\r\nNever seen anything like this before.\r\n\r\n\r\nN R C, denies, reactor license, Only the second time, in history.\r\n\r\n(formatting due to text-to-speech requirements)","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 13:21:13","modified":"2012-09-03 13:21:13","fileurl":""},{"id":255310,"heading":"see previous coment","article":"to answer, I merely need to say read this\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/255129_comment.php#255308\r\nya psycho","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 13:26:11","modified":"2012-09-03 13:26:11","fileurl":""},{"id":255311,"heading":"measuring radiation isn't important - is it","article":""the cooling globe with record cold periods"\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nU S Climate Update, Warmest 12 Months, On Record\r\n\r\nThe Northern Hemisphere, just experienced, the all time warmest June, on record, at 2.34 degrees fahrenheit above average. \r\n\r\nThe average temperature, for the contiguous U S, during June, was 71.2 degrees fahrenheit, which is 2 degrees, above the 20th century average, contributing to a, record warm, first half of the year, and the warmest 12-month period, the nation has experienced, since record-keeping began, in 1895. \r\n\r\nScorching temperatures, during the second half of the month, led many cities, to set all-time temperature records. \r\n\r\nThe nation, as a whole, also experienced its tenth driest June on record. \r\n\r\nRecord and near-record dry conditions, were present, across the Intermountain West. \r\n\r\nOver 170, all-time warm temperature records, were broken, or tied, during the month. \r\n\r\nTemperatures in South Carolina, 113 degrees, and Georgia, 112 degrees, are currently under review, by the U S State Climate Extremes Committee, as possible all-time statewide temperature records. \r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 13:26:56","modified":"2012-09-03 13:26:56","fileurl":""},{"id":255312,"heading":"exactly, you twit...","article":"If the stinking HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf projects were shut down we would be back to normal weather.\r\nYou simply cannot inject gigawatts into the atmosphere without consequences while you're creating a aerial array to augment this operation.\r\nThey're the prime suspects in this drought. and the IMF with their proposed carbon tax [ a huge incentive.] is the prime beneficiary.\r\nAnd my lord, the noise and interest level! In pushing this circus of 'global warming' in a cooling world. You better hurry up, winter is coming! This crap wont fly when people are shivering under record snow levels.","author":"HAARP v. 'Global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 13:39:00","modified":"2012-09-03 13:39:00","fileurl":""},{"id":255313,"heading":"twits tumble rocks - inventors design detectors","article":""inject gigawatts into the atmosphere"\r\n\r\nthat's ERP. I've explained this before. When you have a point source the power is radiated in all directions equally, but when the source is tightly focused (like a laser), the effective power is millions of times higher.\r\n\r\ntake a 100 watt bulb - not too bright\r\n\r\nbut focus that light into a thin beam and it will cause instant blindness\r\n\r\nAnd yet even with a high ERP, this energy is still only a drop in the bucket compared to solar energy - the amount of energy the sun radiates into the same layers, everyday.\r\n\r\nIt makes a 'dent' in the layer that radio signals can bounce off of.\r\n\r\nIt's classified because it's used to send messenges to nuclear submarines - everything involving the military and nuclear is classified.\r\n\r\nThe haarp signal is so weak here you can only barely receive it, it's almost buried in noise..\r\n\r\nTo cause any significant effects they would have to have a large power plant - a city's worth of electricity, not the diesel generators on the remote site you can see pictures of.\r\n\r\nPeople tend to fear what they don't understand.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-03 14:11:48","modified":"2012-09-03 14:11:48","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/array04.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/array04.jpg"}},{"id":255315,"heading":""I've explained this before."","article":"tinker toy science from a psychopathic liar doesn't count, BTW.\r\nHAARP & Weather War\r\n\r\nThe HAARP website acknowledges that experiments are conducted which use electromagnetic frequencies to fire pulsed, directed energy beams in order to "temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere." Some scientists state that purposefully disturbing this sensitive layer could have major and even disastrous consequences. Concerned HAARP researchers like Dr. Michel Chossudovsky of the University of Ottawa and Alaska's Dr. Nick Begich (son of a US Congressman) present evidence suggesting that these disturbances can even be used to trigger earthquakes, affect hurricanes, and for weather control. \r\nhttp:\/\/www.haarp.net\/","author":"HAARP v, 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 21:43:28","modified":"2012-09-03 21:43:28","fileurl":""},{"id":255317,"heading":"exxon, coal, debunked smears, and now - quacks","article":"Michel Chossudovsky is professor of economics (emeritus) at the University of Ottawa.\r\n\r\nIn an op-ed in the conservative Canadian news outlet, Western Standard, Chossudovsky was listed as one of Canada's nuttiest professors "whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues.\r\n\r\nAnd criticized Chussodovsky's "wild-eyed conspiracy theories", that Washington had weapons that could influence climate change.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n"Dr.\u201d Nick Begich Jr.\r\n\r\nCalls himself a doctor even though his doctorate is an honorary one from The Open International University for Complementary Medicines in Sri Lanka, according to his own biography. (which is a shady diploma mill outfit)\r\n\r\nBegich is not a scientist or a even a doctor.\r\n\r\n\r\nIt is of paramount importance to verify our sources and look into who you are believing before you run off spreading their information (or disinformation as the case may be) to your friends, family, or through whatever medium you might utilize.\r\n\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 22:21:55","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:12","fileurl":""},{"id":255319,"heading":"wasn't to convince","article":"And the compromised 'scientists' who are funded by selective grants and were shown to be committing fraud are somehow now held as using scientific method?\r\nha\r\nWe understand the game of selective disinformation.\r\nYou can't prove any climate threat without addressing lost, manipulated and falsified raw data.\r\nSoftware cheat codes to produce desired results and the huge incentive to use weather control to indulge in speculation and carbon tax extraction for the IMF.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 22:39:57","modified":"2012-09-03 22:39:57","fileurl":""},{"id":255320,"heading":"I'm sure exxon or big coal will help you out","article":"in finding some data to support those theories.\r\n\r\nOr, try tobacco companies.\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 22:52:23","modified":"2012-09-03 22:52:23","fileurl":""},{"id":255322,"heading":"try this instead","article":"Archived-Articles: Climategate: CRU Was But the Tip of the Iceberg\r\n\r\nJan 22, 2010 ... Just months after the Climategate scandal broke, a new study has uncovered ... climate centers have also been manipulating worldwide temperature data in ... It is that data which NOAA receives and disseminates \r\nhttp:\/\/www.americanthinker.com\/2010\/01\/climategate_cru_was_but_the_ti.html\r\nSo we still have the freak weather, the freaks who push this baloney and the hunger of the IMF for that carbon tax.\r\nAnd their control of the various dark networks which pull the strings to make it happen.\r\nHAARP & Operation Cloverleaf.\r\nMarch 2004\r\n\r\nThis information is devoted to a short summary of the history, technology, and health effects of Project Cloverleaf, particularly in how it interfaces with multiplying the effects of HAARP technology.\r\n\r\n Project Cloverleaf is a joint US-Canadian Military Operation involving distributing chemicals into the atmosphere above Canada and the United States.\r\n\r\n Both US military refueling tankers and thousands of planes in private corporate aviation are used. \r\nhttp:\/\/www.bibliotecapleyades.net\/ciencia\/ciencia_chemtrails28.htm","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-03 23:34:40","modified":"2012-09-03 23:34:40","fileurl":""},{"id":255325,"heading":"\u2018There is no consensus\u2019\u2013If this is not consensus, what would consensus look like?","article":"Objection: Climate is complicated and there are lots of competing theories and unsolved mysteries. Until this is all worked out, one can\u2019t claim there is consensus on global warming theory. Until there is, we should not take any action.\r\n\r\nThis is similar to the \u201cglobal warming is a hoax\u201d article, but at least here we can narrow down just what the consensus is about.\r\n\r\nAnswer: Sure there are plenty of unsolved problems and active debates in climate science. But if you look at the research papers coming out these days, the debates are about things like why model predictions of outgoing longwave radiation at the top of the atmosphere in tropical latitudes differ from satellite readings, or how the size of ice crystals in cirrus clouds affect the amount of incoming shortwave reflected back into space, or precisely how much stratospheric cooling can be attributed to ozone depletion rather than an enhanced greenhouse effect.\r\n\r\nNo one in the climate science community is debating whether or not changes in atmospheric CO2 concentrations alter the greenhouse effect, or if the current warming trend is outside of the range of natural variability, or if sea levels have risen over the last century.\r\n\r\nThis is where there is a consensus.\r\n\r\nSpecifically, the \u201cconsensus\u201d about anthropogenic climate change entails the following:\r\n\r\n the climate is undergoing a pronounced warming trend beyond the range of natural variability;\r\n the major cause of most of the observed warming is rising levels of the greenhouse gas CO2;\r\n the rise in CO2 is the result of burning fossil fuels;\r\n if CO2 continues to rise over the next century, the warming will continue; and\r\n a climate change of the projected magnitude over this time frame represents potential danger to human welfare and the environment.\r\n\r\nWhile theories and viewpoints in conflict with the above do exist, their proponents constitute a very small minority. If we require unanimity before being confident, well, we can\u2019t be sure the earth isn\u2019t hollow either.\r\n\r\nThis consensus is represented in the IPCC Third Assessment Report, Working Group 1 (TAR WG1), the most comprehensive compilation and summary of current climate research ever attempted, and arguably the most thoroughly peer reviewed scientific document in history. While this review was sponsored by the UN, the research it compiled and reviewed was not, and the scientists involved were independent and came from all over the world.\r\n\r\nThe conclusions reached in this document have been explicitly endorsed by \u2026\r\n\r\n Academia Brasiliera de Ci\u00eancias (Bazil)\r\n Royal Society of Canada\r\n Chinese Academy of Sciences\r\n Academi\u00e9 des Sciences (France)\r\n Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina (Germany)\r\n Indian National Science Academy\r\n Accademia dei Lincei (Italy)\r\n Science Council of Japan\r\n Russian Academy of Sciences\r\n Royal Society (United Kingdom)\r\n National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)\r\n Australian Academy of Sciences\r\n Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts\r\n Caribbean Academy of Sciences\r\n Indonesian Academy of Sciences\r\n Royal Irish Academy\r\n Academy of Sciences Malaysia\r\n Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand\r\n Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences\r\n\r\nIn addition to these national academies, the following institutions specializing in climate, atmosphere, ocean, and\/or earth sciences have endorsed or published the same conclusions as presented in the TAR report:\r\n\r\n NASA\u2019s Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.giss.nasa.gov\/research\/news\/20120806\/ \r\n\r\n National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.ncdc.noaa.gov\/cmb-faq\/globalwarming.html \r\n\r\n National Academy of Sciences (NAS)\r\nhttp:\/\/books.nap.edu\/collections\/global_warming\/index.html \r\n\r\n State of the Canadian Cryosphere (SOCC)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.socc.ca\/cms\/en\/home.aspx \r\n \r\n Royal Society of the United Kingdom (RS)\r\nhttp:\/\/royalsociety.org\/ \r\n\r\n American Geophysical Union (AGU)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.ametsoc.org\/policy\/climatechangeresearch_2003.html \r\n\r\n American Institute of Physics (AIP)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.aip.org\/gov\/policy12.html \r\n\r\n National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)\r\nhttp:\/\/eo.ucar.edu\/basics\/cc_1.html \r\n\r\n American Meteorological Society (AMS)\r\nhttp:\/\/eo.ucar.edu\/basics\/cc_1.html \r\n\r\n\r\n Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)\r\nhttp:\/\/nationalacademies.org\/onpi\/06072005.pdf \r\n\r\nIf this is not scientific consensus, what in the world would a consensus look like?\r\n\r\n(Addendum: One could legitimately argue that such policy statements by necessity hide possibly legitimate internal debate while trying to present unity of position. Science is ultimately determined in peer reviewed journals. Fortunately, there is a bit of research that looked specifically at this very question \u2014 the subject of another guide entry.)","author":"Originally By Coby Beck","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 02:53:20","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:12","fileurl":""},{"id":255326,"heading":"the anti-science big energy funded "scientists"","article":"","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 02:54:37","modified":"2012-09-04 02:54:37","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/scientific_republican.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/scientific_republican.jpg"}},{"id":255330,"heading":"HAARP conspiracy theory debunked.","article":"Work on the HAARP Station began in 1993. The current working IRI was completed in 2007, and its prime contractor was BAE Systems Advanced Technologies. \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.haarp.alaska.edu\/haarp\/factSheet.html \r\n\r\nWork on the HAARP Station began in 1993. The rise in Global Temperature started between 1910 to 1920 as this graph clearly shows - debunking your HAARP conspiracy theory.\r\n","author":"a person","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 03:09:49","modified":"2012-09-04 03:09:49","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/2000-global-temperature_increase-warming.jpg9wphir.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/2000-global-temperature_increase-warming.jpg9wphir.jpg"}},{"id":255331,"heading":"mixing our P's & Q's","article":"Bill mixes in haarp with global warming denialism\r\n\r\nand some 'other persons' on here mix color revolutions with global warming\r\n\r\n\r\n- and meanwhile radioactive contamination is happening here and now\r\n\r\nNobel: Radioactive contamination in Western US and Hawaii \u201calmost even worse\u201d than Japan -CBS (VIDEO)","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 03:31:50","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:12","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/cropped-cumulated_total_deposition_ground_fukushima.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/cropped-cumulated_total_deposition_ground_fukushima.jpg"}},{"id":255335,"heading":"and here's the ocean contamination","article":"","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 03:49:49","modified":"2012-09-04 03:49:49","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/erl429935f4_enhanced.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/erl429935f4_enhanced.jpg"}},{"id":255342,"heading":"did I say off topic meanderings?","article":"of course the psychopath needs to change the subject into one of its own peculiar fixations when it used to be a denier of global DU contamination, saying it was "like lead in a battery"... and now it is crowing about the subject of radioactive contamination.\r\nBut this is not even the subject of this propaganda piece.\r\nI deny the premiss of global warming as it has been shown to be a fraud in the current cooling period aptly demonstrated if one was to scroll up beyond the barrage of noise.\r\nThe HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf projects need to be shut down and the IMF needs to prosecuted for criminal conduct.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 09:34:10","modified":"2012-09-04 09:34:10","fileurl":""},{"id":255343,"heading":"Fukushima was 'man-made' disaster","article":"The japanese diet found the fukushima disaster was not an accident\r\n\r\nFukushima Nuclear Disaster \u201cMan-Made\u201d Reports Japanese Panel\r\n\r\nFukushima Disaster "Man-Made" & "Preventable.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.democracynow.org\/2012\/7\/6\/as_japan_says_fukushima_disaster_man\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd nuclear power contributes to climate change - the EROEI calculations show all the fossil fuel energy that goes into the mining and refining of uranium plus the millions of tons of concrete and steel - all CO2 intensive activities..\r\n\r\nWhat is off topic is haarp, since _you have no supporting data_\r\n\r\nWe can measure and chart the radiation from the fukushima disaster, you cannot provide one shread of data, measurements or samples for haarp or chemtrails.\r\n\r\nIf you were a nuclear shill you would be 'doing the devil's work' since the haarp and chemtrail frauds only server to distract from the real issues. By quoting exxon and coal repeatedly even when cited you've already made yourself a willing fossil fuel shill.\r\n\r\nYou live in some of the most contaminated areas, so it's no surprise you would want to sweep the contamination issue under the rug.\r\n\r\nFortunately some of us care enough to invest the time to design radiation detectors that you can build at home, so you can use them to avoid exposure, and lower your chance of developing cancer, heart disease and other health problems.\r\n\r\nIt didn't escape my attention that you have no interest whatsoever in ongoing radioactive contamination or public health - even your own.\r\n\r\n\r\nNotice the inverted logic in play - a person that is actively involved in protecting public health is smeared as a psychopath, while the smearer who shills for big oil and big nuclear infers himself as the opposite.\r\n\r\nDidn't you know - psychopaths spend their time doing work for the public good, providing concrete solutions and actions so people can help themselves, for free, with no strings attached..\r\n\r\nThat's a weird definition, hmmmm let's see :\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Psychopathy\r\n\r\n\r\na personality disorder that has been variously described as lacking empathy, coldheartedness, lacking guilt, egocentricity, superficial charm, manipulativeness, irresponsibility, nonplanfulness, impulsivity, and antisocial behaviors.\r\n\r\n\r\nlooks like a bad case of projection ;)","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 10:29:45","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:12","fileurl":""},{"id":255345,"heading":"speaking of Japan","article":"In fact there are suspicious anomalies that were reported before the Fukushima event.\r\nSignatures of HAARP weaponry.\r\n\r\nIn an exclusive ExopoliticsTV interview by Alfred Lambremont Webre released May 9, 2011, independent scientist Leuren Moret has stated that the Fukushima HAARP tectonic nuclear attack was done by an international racketeering war crimes network within the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Department of Energy (DOE), and BP (British Petroleum) on behalf of City of London bankers.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.examiner.com\/article\/leuren-moret-fukushima-haarp-nuclear-attack-by-cia-doe-bp-for-london-banks","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 11:51:11","modified":"2012-09-04 11:51:11","fileurl":""},{"id":255348,"heading":"Leuren Moret - another fake "scientist"","article":"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Leuren_Moret\r\n\r\n"Leuren Moret is a conspiracy theorist"\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Tehran Times has described her efforts as a "crusade".\r\n\r\n\r\nLeuren K Moret - Real Job at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/archive.org\/details\/LeurenKMoret-RealJobAtLawrenceLivermoreNationalLaboratory\r\n\r\n\r\nLeuren K Moret often asserts that she was a "nuclear scientist" at two DOE National Laboratories. \r\n\r\nThis letter, obtained from the University of California operated Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory under the California Public Records Act shows that Moret was not a "scientist" and worked very briefly at the Laboratory. \r\n\r\nMoret was a Senior Scientific Technologist in the Center for Applied Scientific Computing for less than a year from 1989 to 1990. \r\n\r\nMoret also claims to have been trained in radiation detection by Manhattan Project Scientist Marion Fulk. \r\n\r\nFulk's employment from 1964 to 1984 as a Chemist at the Laboratory is also addressed in this letter. \r\n\r\nWhile Fulk did have prior employment, it is doubtful that he was a "Manhattan Project Scientist". \r\n\r\nIt also is clear that Moret never worked with Fulk at the Laboratory since Fulk retired in 1984 and Moret began work five years later in 1989.\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 13:06:52","modified":"2012-09-04 13:06:52","fileurl":""},{"id":255349,"heading":"Leuren Moret - another fake "scientist"","article":"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Leuren_Moret\r\n\r\n"Leuren Moret is a conspiracy theorist"\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Tehran Times has described her efforts as a "crusade".\r\n\r\n\r\nLeuren K Moret - Real Job at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/archive.org\/details\/LeurenKMoret-RealJobAtLawrenceLivermoreNationalLaboratory\r\n\r\n\r\nLeuren K Moret often asserts that she was a "nuclear scientist" at two DOE National Laboratories. \r\n\r\nThis letter, obtained from the University of California operated Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory under the California Public Records Act shows that Moret was not a "scientist" and worked very briefly at the Laboratory. \r\n\r\nMoret was a Senior Scientific Technologist in the Center for Applied Scientific Computing for less than a year from 1989 to 1990. \r\n\r\nMoret also claims to have been trained in radiation detection by Manhattan Project Scientist Marion Fulk. \r\n\r\nFulk's employment from 1964 to 1984 as a Chemist at the Laboratory is also addressed in this letter. \r\n\r\nWhile Fulk did have prior employment, it is doubtful that he was a "Manhattan Project Scientist". \r\n\r\nIt also is clear that Moret never worked with Fulk at the Laboratory since Fulk retired in 1984 and Moret began work five years later in 1989.\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 13:07:04","modified":"2012-09-04 13:07:04","fileurl":""},{"id":255350,"heading":"ha ha","article":".wikipedia.\r\nha, your all in one source that can be 'amended' at the whim of the 'editors' real solid there...\r\nNot hardly.\r\nI've noticed the shills for carbon tax use it frequently. \r\nAnd of course Moret is being smeared and discredited. It's a common enough tactic as you should well know.\r\nThere is no global warming but there sure is a program to control the resources and people of the world. \r\nHAARP and Operation Cloverleaf is the hammer to do it.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 13:19:16","modified":"2012-09-04 13:19:16","fileurl":""},{"id":255351,"heading":"directly from the horse's mouth","article":"","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 13:32:12","modified":"2012-09-04 13:32:12","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/moret.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/moret.jpg"}},{"id":255352,"heading":"wiki didn't even say that - I found it :)","article":"","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 14:07:11","modified":"2012-09-04 14:07:11","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/rock-tumbler-stop-hitting-yourself.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/rock-tumbler-stop-hitting-yourself.jpg"}},{"id":255353,"heading":"see URL below","article":" read this \r\nYou Know they're Hurting\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/255129_comment.php#255308 \r\nWe have an obvious plaster fest of 'climate change' and 'global warming' pieces in a swam of pro carbon tax propaganda.\r\nWe have the avoidance of such topic as interested parties, IMF motives and known military projects such as the geo-engineering projects under Operation Cloverleaf.\r\nWe have very dedicated weasels pushing it.\r\nShowing their true alignments.\r\nThe real 'denialists'.","author":"HAARP v. global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 14:26:29","modified":"2012-09-04 14:26:29","fileurl":""},{"id":255354,"heading":"you're right - we ARE hurting","article":"I've just issued a radiation alert - 35 times normal background.wv\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 14:45:30","modified":"2012-09-04 14:45:30","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/beta.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/beta.jpg"}},{"id":255355,"heading":"my own chart doesn't quite agree","article":"because it's measuring mainly gamma and uses direct detection (the EPA chart draws air through a filter and checks the filter, plus is pure beta)\r\n\r\nThere's a little secret about the EPA's gamma chart.\r\nRanges 3 and 5 indicate cesium, but it's a matter of how elevated they are compared to the other ranges (which varies depending on location)","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 14:57:41","modified":"2012-09-04 14:57:41","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/cdvcounter.jpgqfppav.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/cdvcounter.jpgqfppav.jpg"}},{"id":255356,"heading":"a new term","article":"look up the term 'verified'\r\nsomething the fraud cannot produce after the cooked and whimsical data points for your meaningless charts and graphs are proven to be fabrications\r\n\r\nFakegate: The Obnoxious Fabrication of Global Warming - Forbes\r\nAbout every four years, the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) produces a voluminous Assessment Report (AR) on the state of global warming science, such as it is. Two years after each AR, the IPCC produces an updating Interim Report\r\nhttp:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/peterferrara\/2012\/03\/01\/fakegate-the-obnoxious-fabrication-of-global-warming\/","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 17:02:12","modified":"2012-09-04 17:02:12","fileurl":""},{"id":255357,"heading":"same old exxon propaganda","article":"The Heartland Institute\r\n\r\n"I am a Heartland Senior Fellow"\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nExxonSecrets Factsheet: Heartland Institute\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.exxonsecrets.org\/html\/orgfactsheet.php?id=41","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 17:34:31","modified":"2012-09-04 17:34:31","fileurl":""},{"id":255358,"heading":"exxon will get subsidies","article":"this is about weather manipulation to extort a carbon tax in a cooling global environment. For a carbon tax to the IMF.\r\nAnd the motive for all the propaganda about global warming.\r\nShut down HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf.\r\n","author":"HAARP v. Global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 17:41:48","modified":"2012-09-04 17:41:48","fileurl":""},{"id":255359,"heading":"the circular logic hand job","article":"been watching that tumbler too long?","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 18:04:49","modified":"2012-09-04 18:04:49","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/demotivational-posters-fap-consulting.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/demotivational-posters-fap-consulting.jpg"}},{"id":255360,"heading":"same ol shit, huh?","article":"Aside from our psychopathic enabler for the IMF who needs to cover questions with off topic and inane graphics, what do we have?\r\nA dedicated tool for the 'denialists' who are pushing the global warming fraud as hard as they can before winter covers their bull shit in record snow levels.\r\nLike last year.\r\nShut down HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf.","author":"HAARP v.'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 18:11:17","modified":"2012-09-04 18:11:17","fileurl":""},{"id":255361,"heading":"your logic is impeccable","article":"","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 18:32:28","modified":"2012-09-04 18:32:28","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/billy_go_round_the_logic_bush.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/billy_go_round_the_logic_bush.jpg"}},{"id":255362,"heading":"I did say inane graphics...","article":"Aside from the OCD about stupid graphics, I've noticed the lame attempt to divert the topic from a point it cannot address.\r\nThe IMF and the carbon tax they, with their agents, are tying to push under the flurry of this 'global warming' bullshit.\r\nAnd the almost psychopathic fervor they push it with.\r\nFirst, shut down HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf, and then we'll talk.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 19:04:37","modified":"2012-09-04 19:04:37","fileurl":""},{"id":255363,"heading":"sure, I have the master switch right here","article":"the world is mine!","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 19:28:12","modified":"2012-09-04 19:28:12","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/looks_like_uncle_bills_off_his_meds_again.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/looks_like_uncle_bills_off_his_meds_again.jpg"}},{"id":255364,"heading":"Predictable pshcho","article":"as we can all see, the psychopath who is so dedicated in defending the global warming myth retreats into its psychotic obsessions.\r\n\r\nAnd get ready for a long cold winter like the last one.\r\nAnother item, these wankers can't deal with in their 'global warming' wank which has been proven as a fraud.\r\nShut down the HAARP and chemtrail programs.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 20:59:28","modified":"2012-09-04 20:59:28","fileurl":""},{"id":255375,"heading":"tireless wankers for 'global warming'","article":"When one views the tired and predictable noise thrown into the fraud of 'global warming' we still must ask the following question:\r\nwho benefits?\r\nObviously the IMF who these carbon taxes will enrich.\r\nWhile controlling the fuel and food prices of their subjects. \r\nshut down HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf.\r\nAnd get ready for a rough winter and higher food prices.\r\nIt's a war on the people.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 21:14:19","modified":"2012-09-04 21:14:19","fileurl":""},{"id":255376,"heading":"The Winter That Wasn't","article":""a long cold winter like the last one."\r\n\r\n\r\nSpring Begins: Recapping The 2011-2012 "The Winter That Wasn't"\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Winter That Wasn't-2011-12 | Farmers' Almanac Forum\r\n\r\n\r\n'Winter That wasn't' ranks 10th-warmest in Toledo area\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Winter That Wasn't Checks In at Fourth Warmest | Climate Central\r\n\r\n\r\nPlants, Animals Signify The Winter that Wasn't \r\n\r\n"most of the 2012 buds actually opened in 2011"\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-04 21:48:40","modified":"2012-09-04 21:48:40","fileurl":""},{"id":255377,"heading":"attack of the pshcho buds","article":"Plants, Animals so dedicated in defending the global warming myth","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-04 22:00:35","modified":"2012-09-04 22:00:35","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/pshcho_bud.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/pshcho_bud.jpg"}},{"id":255386,"heading":"it doesn't take very long","article":"Notice anything?\r\nLike the decent into psychopathy our pro-carbon tax agent quickly falls?\r\nOr the absence of [ valid independent ] collaborating data to support its opinion?\r\nWandering into its delusional halls of madness, it continues to advocate for the system which has declared war on the populations of Earth through their weapons of technology\r\nA good video to provide some background is:\r\nWhy in the World are they Spraying?\r\nA treatise on HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf.","author":"HARRP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 10:56:54","modified":"2012-09-05 10:56:54","fileurl":""},{"id":255387,"heading":"magical thinking impervious to reality","article":"> get ready for a long cold winter like the last one.\r\n\r\nPlants, Animals Signify The Winter that Wasn't\r\n\r\n\r\nPlants, Animals so dedicated in defending the global warming myth.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> [ valid independent ] collaborating data\r\n\r\nexxon, coal, and fake scientists\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nChris Hedges on "Empire of Illusion"\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dHle_turjes\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 11:11:36","modified":"2012-09-05 11:11:36","fileurl":""},{"id":255390,"heading":"it's not even magic","article":"After all, isn't this propaganda piece trying to equate skepticism of the fraud involved in the very creation of the CO2 'hockey stick' to some kind of mental disorder?\r\nNot the fabrication of 'raw data' or the software cheat codes to produce said graph from fantasy land?\r\nWe do know that HAARP exists as well as the Operation Cloverleaf project from where we see our skies assaulted by obscene chemical trails and our weather used as a weapon for futures speculation and carbon tax agendas.\r\nIt is not magic, merely power and greed playing fast and loose with our biosphere.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 13:54:55","modified":"2012-09-05 13:54:55","fileurl":""},{"id":255392,"heading":"cheat this","article":"Animals and plants are in on the conspiracy too - whatever it takes to stay deluded and in denial.\r\n\r\nIn the twisted and hypocritical pretzel-logic of bill, all prior statements and "facts" are infinitely flexible and reviseable as needed to deny any and all refutations made by other posters, as well as to automatically negate all subsequent facts or logical arguments.","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-05 15:29:12","modified":"2012-09-05 15:29:12","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/greenlandsurfacemeltjuly2012-300x272.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/greenlandsurfacemeltjuly2012-300x272.jpg"}},{"id":255393,"heading":"it's all about belief","article":"belief will fly in the face of facts, necessities, pressing reality, and even death.\r\n\r\nbelief is impervious to facts, yet requires none of it's own\r\n\r\nbelief will run logic in circles, will be repeatedly dead wrong, will tell bald face lies, then ignore them\r\n\r\nbelief can be wrong an unlimited amount of times, yet is still always right\r\n\r\nbelief relies on the repetition of sound bites and dog whistles, as the mere soothing sound of soothing lies is all that matters\r\n\r\nnothing and no one else matters, not the earth, animals or plants, other people - nothing matters except the soothing lie, the lie that absolves any and all responsibility by blaming anything else and anyone else for everything","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 15:52:56","modified":"2012-09-05 15:52:56","fileurl":""},{"id":255394,"heading":"psycho rants for carbon taxes","article":"the curious thing about these 'graphs' are the fact that the raw data to create them was 'lost'.\r\nWhile the pro-carbon tax agents keep pulling the fraudulent charts and graphs that are fabricated to promote the fraud of the hockey stick, CO2 temperature projection, HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf remain trivialized while billions are spent on these systems which are assaulting our environment.\r\nWe are told to worry about CO2 when our eco-systems are ravaged with the BP oil disaster and radiation poisons the oceans and air and water.\r\n ","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 16:08:09","modified":"2012-09-05 16:08:09","fileurl":""},{"id":255395,"heading":"We are told","article":"it's completely someone else's fault, therefore I don't need to do anything at all","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 16:39:38","modified":"2012-09-05 16:39:38","fileurl":""},{"id":255396,"heading":"dead end logic?","article":"I'm truly sorry that the previous comment from our resident psychopath has little if anything to support the trashed 'global warming' myth.\r\nAgain, let me re-state the obvious.\r\nThe IMF is very intent upon a carbon tax for their own greed and power. These dark networks which control our political processes have the method, opportunity and motives to control the weather, produce droughts and create freak storms with the technologies available to them at this very moment through the HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf programs. 'Hex' is obsessively trying to cover this up as the gatekeeper to this well known set of facts.\r\nFor fear the real problems of threats to our collective commons and survival will become a point of focus.\r\nThe more this 'global warming' propaganda barrage escalates, the more apparent it becomes. Cripple the industrial base of a nation and impoverish the citizenry through a carbon 'footprint' tax.\r\nThat's what these overclass assholes have in mind for us while allowing off shore enterprises to operate without any such constraint.\r\nIt's a war on the people through weather modification and economic means.\r\nOtherwise we wouldn't have the feverish attempt to promote the dead horse of 'global warming' by beating it so hard.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 17:07:29","modified":"2012-09-05 17:07:29","fileurl":""},{"id":255397,"heading":"let me re-state the obvious.","article":"it's someone else's fault, so I don't have to do anything, but chant my soothing lies","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 17:19:00","modified":"2012-09-05 17:19:00","fileurl":""},{"id":255400,"heading":"talk about chanting","article":"I believe it's apparent that the only chanting going on here is the repetition of the dis-credited 'hockey stick'\r\n'hockey stick' fraud\r\nFraudulent hockey sticks and hidden data \u00ab JoNova: Science ...\r\nYet there is a disinformation campaign out there by the IPCC and others to promote the idea that it was a local phenomenon and that the Hockey Stick Graph has not been resoundingly, completely shown to be a baseless fraud.\r\nhttp:\/\/joannenova.com.au\/2009\/12\/fraudulent-hockey-sticks-and-hidden-data\/\r\nNo don't anyone dare look at HAARP and the Chemtrail Operation Cloverleaf projects.\r\nThe IMF would never, ever try to alter the weather or there could never be speculation tied to weather by powerful, interested parties.\r\nAnd a carbon tax is what everyone wants in increased food and fuel prices.\r\nJust ask the psychopath who is promoting this farce.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 17:34:20","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:13","fileurl":""},{"id":255403,"heading":"the fool - the mad fool","article":"","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-05 17:54:55","modified":"2012-09-05 17:54:55","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/haarp_cloverleaf_distractions_while_we_drown.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/haarp_cloverleaf_distractions_while_we_drown.jpg"}},{"id":255404,"heading":"joanne nova","article":"Joanne Nova holds a Bachelor of Science degree in microbiology from the University of Western Australia. She also has a Graduate Certificate in Science Communications from the Australian National University.\r\n\r\nAfter graduation, Nova joined the Shell Questacon Science Circus, a Shell-sponsored program.\r\n\r\nNova was a speaker at the Heartland Institute.\r\n\r\nExxonSecrets Factsheet: Heartland Institute\r\nhttp:\/\/www.exxonsecrets.org\/html\/orgfactsheet.php?id=41\r\n\r\n\r\nJoanne Nova has not published any research in peer-reviewed journals.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/wiki\/index.php?title=Joanne_Nova\r\n\r\nDebunking the 'Skeptics Handbook': More CO2 Does Worsen Climate Change\r\nhttp:\/\/www.desmogblog.com\/skeptics-handbook-carbon-dioxide-climate-change\r\n\r\nDebunking Joanne Nova's 'Skeptics Handbook' part 2: Yes, Global Warming is Real and it's Still Happening\r\nhttp:\/\/www.desmogblog.com\/debunking-joanne-nova-climate-skeptics-handbook-global-warming-real-and-happening\r\n\r\nDebunking Joanne Nova's 'Skeptics Handbook' part 3: The Climate Models Have it Right\r\nhttp:\/\/www.desmogblog.com\/debunking-joanne-nova-climate-skeptics-handbook-part-3-climate-models-have-it-right\r\n\r\nSkeptics Handbook - Not Novel, Not Right\r\nhttp:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/deltoid\/2008\/12\/skeptics_handbook_not_novel_no.php\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 18:05:53","modified":"2012-09-05 18:05:53","fileurl":""},{"id":255405,"heading":"no foundation","article":"EDITORIAL: A climate of fraud - Washington Times\r\nThe latest release of 5,000 emails from the University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit (CRU) reconfirms what the 2009's "Climategate" files established: Global warming is more fiction than science. \r\nwashingtontimes.com\/news\/2011\/nov\/29\/a-climate-of-fraud\/ \r\n\r\nClimate change 'fraud' | UK News | Express.co.uk - Home of ...\r\nTHE scientific consensus that mankind has caused climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a "load of hot air underpinned by fraud". Professor Ian Plimer condemned the climate change lobby as "climate comrades" keeping the "gravy train" going.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.express.co.uk\/posts\/view\/143573\/Climate-change-fraud-\r\n\r\nWhat isn't a fraud is the HAARP weather project and Operation Cloverleaf ( chemtrails )","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 18:22:55","modified":"2012-09-05 18:22:55","fileurl":""},{"id":255406,"heading":"Ian Rutherford Plimer","article":"a geology professor and expert mineralogist with no background in climate science\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/wiki\/index.php?title=Ian_Plimer\r\n\r\n\r\nDefinitive Rebuttal\r\n\r\nIan Plimer\u2019s \u2018Heaven + Earth\u2019 \u2014 Checking the Claims\r\nhttp:\/\/www.complex.org.au\/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=91\r\n\r\n\r\nOther Rebuttals\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/bravenewclimate.com\/2009\/04\/23\/ian-plimer-heaven-and-earth\/\r\n\r\nThe science is missing from Ian Plimer's "Heaven and Earth\r\nhttp:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/deltoid\/2009\/04\/the_science_is_missing_from_ia.php\r\n\r\n\r\nThe \u2018Plimer view\u2019 vs reality: a good lesson for climate change sceptics\r\nhttp:\/\/www.climateshifts.org\/?p=1453\r\n\r\nDetailed rebuttal:\r\nhttp:\/\/www.australiancoralreefsociety.org\/pdf\/Plimer_Detailed.pdf\r\n\r\n\r\nRAPID ROUNDUP: New book by Ian Plimer doubts human-induced climate change \u2013 experts respond. \r\nAustralian Science Media Centre, Apr 21, 2009 (with updates)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.aussmc.org.au\/IanPlimerclimatebook.php\r\n\r\n\r\nDenialist ark a wobbly craft\r\nhttp:\/\/www.theaustralian.news.com.au\/story\/0,25197,25433327-5015678,00.html\r\n\r\n\r\nNo science in Plimer's primer.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.theaustralian.news.com.au\/story\/0,,25433059-5003900,00.html\r\n\r\n\r\nComments on Heaven and Earth: Global Warming: The Missing Science, Ockhams Razor, ABC Radio\r\nKurt Lambeck, president of the Australian Academy of Science (audio with transcript)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/rn\/ockhamsrazor\/stories\/2009\/2589206.htm\r\n\r\n\r\nPlimer wants to talk science? OK, here goes.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.crikey.com.au\/2009\/05\/05\/plimer-wants-to-talk-science-ok-here-goes\/\r\n\r\n\r\nHeaven + Earth - review Malcolm Walter, The Science Show, ABC Radio National, June 6, 2009 (audio with transcript)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/rn\/scienceshow\/stories\/2009\/2586947.htm\r\n\r\n\r\nHeaven + Earth - review David Karoly, The Science Show, ABC Radio National, June 13, 2009 (audio with transcript)\r\nhttp:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/rn\/scienceshow\/stories\/2009\/2593166.htm\r\n\r\n\r\nSpectator recycles climate rubbish published by sceptic George Monbiot, The Guardian, 9 July 2009\r\nhttp:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/environment\/georgemonbiot\/2009\/jul\/09\/george-monbiot-ian-plimer\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Spectator is hot for global warming denial Alex Higgins, Huffington Post, 13 July 2009\r\nhttp:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/alex-higgins\/the-ispectatori-is-hot-fo_b_230873.html\r\n\r\n\r\nSilenced Plimer somehow appears on TV, on radio, in newspapers. A lot.\r\nhttp:\/\/scienceblogs.com\/deltoid\/2008\/11\/silenced_plimer_somehow_appear.php\r\n\r\nSpot the recycled denial III \u2013 Prof Ian Plimer\r\nhttp:\/\/bravenewclimate.com\/2008\/09\/01\/spot-the-recycled-denial-iii-\u2013-prof-ian-plimer\/\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 18:43:34","modified":"2013-11-11 01:11:13","fileurl":""},{"id":255407,"heading":"surprised? - Plimer profits from coal mining.","article":"","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-05 19:09:36","modified":"2012-09-05 19:09:36","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/arguments.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/arguments.jpg"}},{"id":255408,"heading":"hmmmmm, back to stupid graphics again as predicted","article":"ha...\r\nlike I said, back to inane graphics again. \r\nSuch a solid argument in the face of overwhelming evidence pointing to the fraud of 'global warming' and the avoidance of the operational HAARP and Chemtrail programs anyone who looks outside can see for themselves.\r\nBut when you have nothing left, you go for stupid.\r\nway to go.\r\nShut down these dangerous technologies before they destroy our Earth while the carbon nazis wank about CO2 for their own financial interests on behalf of the IMF and the carbon and weather speculation assholes.","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 19:48:57","modified":"2012-09-05 19:48:57","fileurl":""},{"id":255409,"heading":"overwhelming evidence","article":"exxon, coal, shell, exxon, coal mining \r\n\r\nnice lineup of "overwhelming evidence" you've got there\r\n\r\nchant after me\r\n\r\nhaarp cloverleaf\r\nhaarp cloverleaf\r\nhaarp cloverleaf\r\n\r\nthere all better now ;)\r\n\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 20:11:08","modified":"2012-09-05 20:11:08","fileurl":""},{"id":255410,"heading":"if it was all better, you wouldn't keep HAARPing","article":"as soon as the propaganda stops about 'global warming' and they shut down the systems, [ HAARP and Operation Cloverleaf 'cause I'm tired of overclass assholes screwing my world as mentioned above.] I'll be okay with it.\r\nthat's enough, I'll be satisfied.\r\n\r\nHAARP +Operation Cloverleaf\r\n[ a good search term for the interested ]\r\n \r\nMeanwhile these assholes are freaking the weather for extortion purposes as psychos like 'Hex' jump and hump for a carbon tax based on fraud.\r\nWe can always count on this psycho who was the denialist in charge for global DU contamination some time ago...\r\nAnd proven to be another psycho trying to cover it up.\r\nJust like now.\r\nWhat do they do when they need an obsessive denialist psycho?\r\nThey call on psychoboy. ","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 20:23:57","modified":"2012-09-05 20:23:57","fileurl":""},{"id":255411,"heading":"the carbon tax straw man","article":"DU contamination\r\n\r\num, have you measured any ?\r\n\r\nI've done measurements, and found some virgin uranium from coal power plants..\r\n\r\nI've also compiled reports about non-depleted, and enriched uranium, plus high levels of K40 (up to 100 times natural level), found a classified NASA study that shows how K40 is produced by neutron capture in reactor coolent water, after nuclear industry shills claimed "nuclear reactors don't produce K40"\r\n\r\nTurns out it's one of many dirty little secrets the nuclear industry hides from us.\r\n\r\nYou claim to have an alpha detector - post your measurements of DU readings - you know the 'global' contamination you claimed would happen.\r\n\r\n\r\nre: carbon tax\r\n\r\nI've never said one word about a carbon tax - ever.\r\nThat's a straw man entirely of your own manufacture..\r\n","author":"carzy_inventor","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-05 20:56:01","modified":"2012-09-05 20:56:01","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/cdvcounter.jpgqibmjp.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/cdvcounter.jpgqibmjp.jpg"}},{"id":255413,"heading":"shaw","article":"IMF Carbon Tax\r\nIMF, World Bank eye carbon tax on fuels | News.com.au\r\nTHE World Bank and IMF are proposing global carbon taxes on aviation and ship fuels in developed economies to help reduce carbon dioxide emissions, according to a draft proposal seen by AFP today.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.news.com.au\/business\/breaking-news\/imf-world-bank-eye-carbon-tax-on-fuels\/story-e6frfkur-1226145207324\r\nSo we have motive.\r\nOpportunity exists in the dark networks that guide policy originating in the centers of finance capital.\r\nAnd method exists in the a fore mentioned HAARP and Chemtrail programs.\r\n","author":"HAARP v. 'global warming'","parent_id":255129,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-05 23:08:58","modified":"2012-09-05 23:08:58","fileurl":""}]}