Silencing Dissent in America
by Stephen Lendman
Freedom in America is endangered. Bipartisan complicity plans destroying it altogether.
America is on a fast track toward tyranny and ruin. Police state laws threaten everyone.
Increasingly dissent is marginalized. It's not tolerated. Resistance is called dangerous to national security.
Federal authorities target activists. So do militarized local police. No holds barred tactics are employed.
In October 2010, the Center for Constitutional Rights said:
\"The growing threat to the right to dissent has been demonstrated in the U.S. government's efforts to silence speech, and criminalize and target peaceful movements.\"
\"These efforts are becoming more aggressive, emboldened further by the Supreme Court's increasingly conservative decisions, for instance regarding material support in the form of humanitarian aid to so-called terrorist organizations.\"
Howard Zinn called dissent \"the highest form of patriotism.\" Michael Ratner and Margaret Ratner Kunstler's book \"Hell No: Your Right to Dissent in Twenty First Century America\" discusses what everyone needs to know.
It explores how activism and dissent are targeted. Demonstrations are attacked and disrupted. Protesters are called terrorists. They're arrested and jailed for expressing constitutionally guaranteed First Amendment and other rights.
Authorities claim they give \"material support\" to perceived enemies. \"Hell No\" provides advice on dealing with a menu of police state practices.
American's First Amendment guarantees free expression, a free press, the right to peacefully assemble, free exercise of religion, and right to petition government for redress of grievances.
Without these rights, all others are at risk. They've been fast eroding in America for years en route to eliminating them altogether. Forgotten are numerous Supreme Court decisions upholding free expression and assembly rights.
In Edwards v. South Carolina (1963), the Court ruled against state authorities for prohibiting protesters from marching for civil rights.
In Cox v. Louisiana (1965), the Court held that state government cannot employ \"breach of the peace\" statutes against protesters engaging in peaceful demonstrations by claiming they may incite violence.
In Brandenburg v. Ohio (1969), the Court ruled government can't punish inflammatory speech unless it's \"directed\" to incite lawless action.
In Texas v. Johnson (1989), Justice William Brennan wrote the majority opinion, saying:
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\"(I)f there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea offensive or disagreeable.\"<\/blockquote>
In Wooley v. Maynard (1977), the Court upheld \"the right of individuals to hold a point of view different from the majority\" with respect to \"idea(s) they find morally objectionable.\"
Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states:
\"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.\"
Article 20(1) states:
\"Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.\"
Article 29(2) states:
\"In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.\"<\/blockquote>
Post-9\/11, dissent has been increasingly marginalized.
In October 2008, so-called (Attorney General Michael) Mukasey\/(FBI Director Robert) Mueller Guidelines gave federal authorities \"flexibility (to) protect the Nation from terrorist threats.\"
Consolidated new rules include criminal and national security issues. Surveillance restrictions were eased. Domestic spying became institutionalized. Constitutional rights are ignored.
\"War on terror\" authority escalated FBI abuses. Intrusive surveillance tools used against alleged spies now target ordinary Americans. Mukasey\/Mueller Guidelines underwent four separate changes. Each one increased FBI surveillance powers.
Tactics include intrusive spying, commercial database data retrieval, paid informants infiltrating groups or targeting individuals on false pretenses, and letting covert unidentified agents conduct \"pretext\" interviews for information.
Mukasey\/Mueller Guidelines left ordinary Americans increasingly vulnerable to abuse. Anyone may be investigated for any reason or none at all.
Authorization permits surveillance and infiltration of anti-war and other social justice groups. Occupy Wall Street (OWS) activists are targeted. Any organization or individual is vulnerable. Anything goes is now policy. Obama is more repressive than Bush.
Data mining collects vast amounts of information on ordinary Americans. How it's used, who knows. Against targeted individuals and groups, it's used abusively.
Everything is fair game. Personal records of all kinds are obtained. Activities are closely monitored. So-called \"suspicious activity reports\" allege possible criminal activity.
The USA Patriot Act authorized so-called National Security Letters (NSLs). They expanded the FBI's authority to obtain personal customer records from ISPs, financial institutions, credit companies, and other sources without prior court approval.
Innocent people are targeted. Virtually anything in public or private records can be gotten. \"Gag\" orders prevent targeted individuals or groups from revealing the information demanded. NSL use continues increasing exponentially.
Lawful rights are violated in numerous ways. Classic police state tactics are used. No one's safe when authorities act this way. Freedom is perilously close to vanishing. Mueller has virtual carte blanche authority.
Occupy Wall Street (OWS) protesters have been targeted and criminalized. Constitutional rights are violated. Beatings and other forms of excessive force are used. Nonviolent protests are called terrorism.
Patriot Act provisions criminalized dissent. Innocent people are arrested, indicted and imprisoned. \"Terrorist profiles\" let FBI and local police investigate anyone for any reason. Obama and congressional allies sold out constituents for Wall Street and other monied interests.
Obama escalated repressive Bush practices. The Oregorian newspaper reported that heavily armed FBI units raided homes of OWS protesters in Seattle and Olympia, WA and Portland, OR over the last month.
Actions have been ongoing since early July. Authorities claim violent crimes are being investigated. Eyewitnesses report dozens of FBI agents in body armor and military fatigues armed with assault rifles involved.
One witness said:
\"I just heard lots of pounding at 6 o'clock, and I got up and I saw the whole thing. I saw them screaming to get in. They were using the battering ram, and then finally the door just opened.\"
FBI spokeswoman Beth Anne Steele told the Oregonian\"
\"The warrants are sealed, and I anticipate they will remain sealed.\"
Authorities alleged searches were for \"anti-government or anarchist literature or materials,\" as well as \"documentation and communications related to the offenses, including but not limited to notes, diagrams, letters, diary and journal entries, address books, and other documentation in written or electronic form.\"<\/blockquote>
In fact, nonviolent activists were targeted, terrorized, and criminalized. At issue is engaging in constitutionally protected protests. Militarized FBI agents used stun grenades and battering rams. Victims were pulled out of bed at gunpoint.
Personal possessions were seized. They included computers, suspect literature and other materials in written or electronic form, cell phones, thumb drives, and clothing with political slogans.
False charges remain sealed. Fundamental rights are criminalized. Post-9\/11, similar raids were conducted. At issue is political dissent as well as America's ongoing war on Islam.
Disproportionate force is used. Victims were handcuffed while homes were searched. Arrests weren't made, but about six protesters were subpoenaed to appear before grand juries.
On August 1, Dennison Williams and Leah Plante read a statement outside a Portland, OR courthouse, saying:
\"This grand jury is a tool of political repression. It is attempting to turn individuals against each other by coercing those subpoenaed to testify against their communities.\"
\"The secret nature of grand jury proceedings creates mistrust and can undermine solidarity. And imprisoning us takes us from our loved ones and our responsibilities.\"<\/blockquote>
Williams and Plante said they'll invoke the Fifth Amendment rights and refuse to answer grand jury questions.
America's Grand Jury System
They're convened to determine possible probable cause to return indictments. Critics say they rubber stamp aggressive prosecutions.
Federally, they have extraordinary investigative powers. Prosecutors abuse them to manipulate proceedings for outcomes they wish. Victims are vulnerable to bogus indictments. The Fifth Amendment requires grand jury indictments for federal criminal charges.
Prosecutors have extraordinary discretion. They choose witnesses, grant selective immunity, and do nearly all questioning.
Proceedings are conducted in secret. No one may disclose what goes on unless ordered to do so judicially. Anyone may be subpoenaed. Answering questions is mandated unless special privilege is granted. For example: lawyer\/client confidentiality or self-incrimination.
Lawyers can't intervene to help clients while testifying. Double jeopardy doesn't apply to grand juries, but without indictments, prosecutors need Criminal Division Attorney General permission to try again. Victims have no protections against false witness testimonies perhaps gotten for leniency on existing or threatened charges.
Prosecutors routinely want grand jury indictments. The system is rigged to get them. Targeted victims are defenseless. Many innocent people languish wrongfully in prison. Justice is routinely denied.
Numerous past incidents occurred. In September 2010, administration ordered raids targeted Chicago and Minneapolis anti-war\/pro-Palestinian activists. Arrests weren't made, but homes were ransacked. Computers, cell phones, books, photos, correspondence, papers, and other possessions were seized.
Twenty-three victims were subpoenaed to testify before grand juries. Activists were again targeted during NATO's May invasion. False terror plots were claimed. Activist homes were raided. Five victims faced terrorism-related charges.
Numerous other arrests were made. Everyone charged is innocent. Police brutality was reported. Most injuries were from baton head and body blows. Over two dozen were hospitalized for broken bones, concussions, knocked out teeth, and open wounds requiring stitches.
NATO arrives nowhere peacefully. Obama officials and local police wage war on dissent. Legal restraints don't apply for anyone charged with alleged terrorism or conspiracy to commit it. Abolition of constitutional rights shows what everyone faces.
It's the wrong time to be activist in America. Doing so means possible indictment, prosecution, and imprisonment for doing the right thing.
Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net<\/a>.
His new book is titled \"How Wall Street Fleeces America: Privatized Banking, Government Collusion and Class War\"
http:\/\/www.claritypress.com\/Lendman.html<\/a>
Visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.
http:\/\/www.progressiveradionetwork.com\/the-progressive-news-hour<\/a>\t\n","contact":"lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net","link":"sjlendman.blogspot.com","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"police state","numcomment":21,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2012\/08\/255011.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":255035,"heading":"The CIA's Satanic Pigs joyfully Preemptively Attacking Dissent across Amerika","article":"The Global Apostates of Hell From Langley, Virginia (The CIA) Satan Worshiping Pigs with Badges and Guns joyfully, Fanatically, Unashamedly, Satanically, Sadistically, and Ritually Preemptively Attacking Protesters and Dissent with Fiendish Glee across Amerika in The Post 9-11 War on Islam Satanic Dictatorship in order to make People safe from Al CIA Duh, the same Al CIA Duh aka CIA Satanic Agents pretending to be Muslims that did the CIA's 9-11 Attacks, so The Masteminds of The 9-11 Attacks (The CIA) could begin their Post 9-11 Satanic Dictatorship in Amerika, under the cover of "Fighting Terror", which The CIA and their Al CIA Duh Satanist Pretending to be Muslims (Just ask The People of Libya, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Syria, London 7-7, Madrid, etc.) are the Real Culprits of. This all goes without saying that The CIA's Satan Worshiping Pig Miltants with Bades and Guns, who are buying all kinds of Military Hardware, not to mention CIA Devil's Drones first to spy upon Amerikans, then to begin Arming them with Missiles and Other Weapons and Preetmptively Attacking U The People.","author":"The CIA's Global Satanic Pig Menace","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-19 23:25:28","modified":"2012-08-19 23:25:28","fileurl":""},{"id":255044,"heading":"Silencing Dissent in LA indymedia","article":"Maybe the title is a bit harsh. It should read as: Monopolizing Opinions in LA IMC\r\n\r\nLA indymedia is supposed to be an open publishing media but some people seem to monopolize the space provided that it is becoming like a spam. One who uses different nicknames even uses troll-like language and writing style. \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/255010_comment.php#255014 \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/254919_comment.php#254924 \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/254875_comment.php#254892 \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/254931_comment.php#254936 \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/254764_comment.php#254780\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/07\/254521_comment.php#254779 \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/255011_comment.php#255035\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/?comments=yes&medium=&keyword=al-CIAduh \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/?keyword=&author=Stephen+Lendman&comments=yes&display=&year=&month=&day=&medium=&language_id=&category=0&sort=&limit=30 \r\n\r\n","author":"League of the Just","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-20 11:24:05","modified":"2012-08-20 11:24:05","fileurl":""},{"id":255046,"heading":"funny stuff here","article":"What a widdle whiner, it can't control what other authors write.\r\nWhen it get its ass kicked in discussion, it cries like a pee pee boy.\r\nLike this thread which it can't seem to let go of.\r\nVery sensitive topic:\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/254974_comment.php#255045\r\nIt wants to silence my dissent.","author":"Awwww Shucks","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-08-20 12:21:00","modified":"2012-08-20 12:21:00","fileurl":""},{"id":255520,"heading":"such irony","article":"The indymedia is famous for obliterating comments. nessie was a well known scissor wielder, and so is the cunt here at LA. ","author":"in the know","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-11 12:09:30","modified":"2012-09-11 12:09:30","fileurl":""},{"id":255521,"heading":"one burnt out israeli spook squeals","article":"I love the oxymoronic 'nics these psychopaths use.\r\n' In the know' means as brain dead as you can be and still draw breath while copping with its OCD riddled delusions of grandeur. \r\nStill smarting over the drubbing it suffered at the pen of a mythical Scottish lake snake.\r\nHere it just gets dissected into its various mental disorders which become all too apparent as its previous comment shows.","author":"haw","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-11 12:57:15","modified":"2012-09-11 12:57:15","fileurl":""},{"id":255522,"heading":"Monopolizing 'Opinions'","article":"and what about facts?\r\n\r\nHow does one monopolize those?\r\n\r\nNow as far as bill goes, he presents no facts either, and 99 % of his opinions are only in the comments, to mostly syndicated pieces that have to be refuted at each IMC they appear on, and even then the comments are another click from being seen.\r\n\r\nFortunately not all IMC's are like that I've noticed, take Indybay for example ;)\r\n\r\nI have to agree though with bill on this one - you are whining about not being able to monopolize the syndication with propaganda borne opinion pieces.\r\n\r\n- and now Whining about someone else who's not even trying to..\r\n\r\nWhen the facts are not on your side - whine about monopolizing opinions.\r\n\r\nStephen Lendman is a great journalist and a role model for the rest of us, I occasionally air his podcasts myself, however the sound quality isn't up to par with most of my other material. If he were to shorten his shows and do more live interviews with higher quality I would air him more often.","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-11 13:07:54","modified":"2012-09-11 13:07:54","fileurl":""},{"id":255524,"heading":"ahhh Mr. Whizzard [ tweeet! ]","article":"a question is formed.\r\nwhy is mr. whizzard here except to run interference and serve as an agi-prop asset?\r\nOh, and engage in an inane display of self certified grandeur and self promotion [ on an imaginary pirate radio stations it has no outside verification of ] while it pronounces things it knows nothing about.\r\nAs it attempts to gatekeep using predictable methods of noise and diversion.\r\nI am merely wondering why this IMC has now the incredible pleasure of its emerged presence.\r\n","author":"ever wonder?","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-11 14:44:31","modified":"2012-09-11 14:44:31","fileurl":""},{"id":255526,"heading":"what's the matter bill","article":"The people of IMC know about my station, going back over 10 years. (added 2 more in the last few years)\r\n\r\nSpeaking of whiz, what's happened to nessie and sf-imc ?\r\n\r\nLooks like IMC finally flushed that turd down the toilet. Mind you I never had any issue with him other than he kept giving me a hard time (much like you) - we agree on almost every issue, especially regarding israHELL and assorted neo-zio-cons that infest both there and here.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nQuestion\r\n\r\nWould I have hundreds of prepared clips if I _wasn't_ airing them ? Would I even go to the trouble of making up the names if they weren't actual clips ?\r\n\r\nI'm preparing to offer them for download. Some of them are me talking too. The server where I've starting uploading them to has a 100MB file size limit, so I've converted them to he-aac v2 format:\r\n\r\n coke open mercury.m4a\t27.31 KB\r\n\r\n coke open genoside.m4a\t30.07 KB\r\n\r\n dont hear that matters.m4a\t42.50 KB\r\n\r\n George Carlin what to eat what to drink what to think.m4a\t172.87 KB\r\n\r\n Chris Hedges (issues that matter to the working poor are absent from the airwaves).m4a\t177.28 KB\r\n\r\n Iraq Veterans Against the War_ End the War Now.m4a\t186.40 KB\r\n\r\n George Carlin - street crime.m4a\t240.15 KB\r\n\r\n hall of shame shill freedomworks.m4a\t244.97 KB\r\n\r\n US israhell and zionist front groups and gatekeepers behind it.m4a\t258.03 KB\r\n\r\n wells fargo.m4a\t269.26 KB\r\n\r\n new gallup poll shows Television dying.m4a\t281.62 KB\r\n\r\n Dialog is a dangerous thing to the 1 percent.m4a\t283.34 KB\r\n\r\n each_soldier_cost_25_jobs_clear_channels_pro_war_rallies.m4a\t285.28 KB\r\n\r\n Im a total whore - prostitute - stick a quarter - hall of shame - whores.m4a\t290.80 KB\r\n\r\n Smoke Pink Cigarettes, Fight Breast Cancer.m4a\t296.44 KB\r\n\r\n Marcy_Kaptur_Says_Wall_Street_Greed_Endless_Wars.m4a\t308.43 KB\r\n\r\n Studies Show High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury.m4a\t343.55 KB\r\n\r\n germany is now getting 50 percent of their electricity from solar and wind.m4a\t473.92 KB\r\n\r\n Small Shops in the Age of Big Box.m4a\t583.84 KB\r\n\r\n MSM owned by and propaganda outlets for wall street (combined).m4a\t677.47 KB\r\n\r\n stop the war profiteers take back our country.m4a\t714.48 KB\r\n\r\n unesco_palestine_YES.m4a\t718.07 KB\r\n\r\n hall of shame worst media whores.m4a\t778.00 KB\r\n\r\n Dennis_Kucinich_War_Takes_Money_From_Americans.m4a\t881.58 KB\r\n\r\n George Carlin On America.m4a\t953.11 KB\r\n\r\n Health Impacts of Coal (with coal PSA at end).m4a\t1.02 MB\r\n\r\n pink teddy bears cancer roundup bovine growth whoremoan.m4a\t1.02 MB\r\n\r\n Exposed_ IDF abuses kids, uses children as human shield.m4a\t1.07 MB\r\n\r\n The Revolution Will not Be Televised.m4a\t1.09 MB\r\n\r\n davidrovics+drinkofthedeathsquads.m4a\t1.09 MB\r\n\r\n George Carlin's greatest moment.m4a\t1.14 MB\r\n\r\n buying your way out of cancer by buying cancer.m4a\t1.17 MB\r\n\r\n iceland jail the bankers.m4a\t1.18 MB\r\n\r\n CONTROLLED MEDIA Declassified Documents Of Israel Lobby Mani.m4a\t1.68 MB\r\n\r\n Stop the Megaloads Now.m4a\t2.04 MB\r\n\r\n AMAZING SPEECH BY WAR VETERAN (with dr laura and cc protests).m4a\t2.19 MB\r\n\r\n Dirty Fucking Hippies WERE RIGHT.m4a\t2.25 MB\r\n\r\n Escobar_ Tehran NAM summit unites real intl community.m4a\t2.34 MB\r\n\r\n Exclusive_Activist_Slams_Faux_Noise - the_guy_who_schooled_faux_noise.m4a\t2.43 MB\r\n\r\n Lack_of_Critical_Thinking_is_Key_to_the_Corrupt_Status_Quo_M.m4a\t2.58 MB\r\n\r\n Occupy Los Angeles - Tom Morello - This Land is Your Land - .m4a\t2.59 MB\r\n\r\n _War on whistleblowers must end__ - Assange speech at Ecuado.m4a\t3.38 MB\r\n\r\n NPR serves the banks_.m4a\t3.83 MB\r\n\r\n Faking_It_How_the_Media_Manipulates.m4a\t4.62 MB\r\n\r\n BP OIL SPILL DISASTER_ Mutated Sea Life - Shrimp Without Eyes.m4a\t8.75 MB\r\n\r\n Chris Hedges on _Empire of Illusion_.m4a\t9.48 MB\r\n\r\n David v gOILiath - Exposing BP_s Lies.m4a\t28.60 MB\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-11 15:13:25","modified":"2012-09-11 15:13:25","fileurl":""},{"id":255527,"heading":"to mr. whizzard","article":"after a huge assault by the same methods that have brought down Cleveland, Arizona, New Mexico as well as SF, no one can wonder exactly what has happened to the network.\r\nIt's my opinion that all of this noise comes from the same psycho-network of which mr. whizzard is a component of.\r\nanother agent to silence dissent.\r\nBut with pure psyho babble. It's always amusing to see into the dark halls of mental illness, watching the troop of monkeys gibber and dance to their OCD riddled agendas...","author":"chuckles & such","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-11 15:25:23","modified":"2012-09-11 15:25:23","fileurl":""},{"id":255528,"heading":""Just My Imagination (Running Away with Me)"","article":"Folder: Democracy Now\r\n\r\nLocation (FTP mapped) Z:\\192.168.5.122\r\n\r\n10.4 GB (11225997312 bytes)\r\n\r\n1,133 files, 36 folders\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFile Folder : Democracy Now current\r\n\r\nLocation (real) E:\\500GB\\80GB\r\n\r\n10.0 GB (10771431424 bytes)\r\n\r\n1,124 files, 36 folders","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-11 15:44:28","modified":"2012-09-11 15:44:28","fileurl":""},{"id":255712,"heading":""cries like a pee pee boy"","article":"http:\/\/cleveland.indymedia.org\/news\/2009\/05\/39177_comment.php#39395\r\n\r\n"I haven't posted on LA for weeks.\r\nYou can have them. they have been infiltrated and the censorship seems personal. Fuck them."","author":"crybaby spotter","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-18 21:23:54","modified":"2012-09-18 21:23:54","fileurl":""},{"id":255714,"heading":"the origin of yada exposed ?","article":"Sunday, May. 17, 2009 :\r\n\r\n1.) psychotic - check\r\n\r\n2. ) Yada - check\r\n\r\n3.) Didn't I *say* psychotic? - check\r\n\r\n\r\n> It was the highest *RANKING* thread.\r\n\r\nooooh you must be proud !\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-18 21:50:45","modified":"2012-09-18 21:50:45","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/oh_theres_nessie.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/oh_theres_nessie.jpg"}},{"id":255715,"heading":"yeah, take a look","article":"and the result of psychopaths let loose in what you have at IMC Cleveland.\r\nA wasteland of spam since they couldn't dominate the site for pro-israeli propaganda.\r\ntalk about pee pee boys.","author":"ruins of Cleveland IMC","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-18 21:51:29","modified":"2012-09-18 21:51:29","fileurl":""},{"id":255716,"heading":"oh and BTW","article":"as for\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2012\/08\/255011_comment.php#255712\r\nthe problem has not gone away. Neither have I. Like most things, an institution's trustworthiness depends upon the >perception< of honor and adherence to their own charter or statement of purpose. When the obvious conflict between hidden agendas and the "open publishing" concept becomes apparent, yes, I believe that this IMC has at least one operative which has relegated itself to 'tinker' with that concept. This may not be so apparent to everyone involved with whatever labor is involved in keeping this site operating and when the operations of this individual may be under observation from other collective members not so dedicated to these agendas, it may be that the actions of this party or parties need to be kept low profile... \r\nIn other words, outright censorship without cause, is high profile suspicious. Since they freaked out when I wanted to inquire as to the staff on their grand 10 year anniversary I realize that open communication is out of the question. something about being too shy or something. From little old me. And consequent inter-coms with the staff has only reaffirmed this impression. It has occurred many times and it has convinced me that the actions are deliberate and with malice. FYI \r\nFor instance, there are certain things they have let out in these discussions they may have not intended to open to the readership. \r\nLike keeping I. P. logs.\r\nwho gives a shit? come and git me, 'cause no one lives for ever, if ya get mah drift. \r\nCaution, I am armed and impatient with dickweeds.","author":"Yep","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-18 22:33:15","modified":"2012-09-18 22:33:15","fileurl":""},{"id":255717,"heading":"corrupted from within by careerists and opportunists","article":"> they freaked out when I wanted to inquire as to the staff \r\n\r\nI got the same cold shoulder treatment when I tried to contact my local IMC offering to work with them on station technical cooperation to build more media outlets.\r\n\r\nThen I started going over the whole operation globally with a fine tooth comb and what I found was pretty disturbing, so I decided to stay away from them. Things have changed since then however - many of the issues they used to move to hidden are actually occuring in real life now. Also notice how their traffic has slowly withered over the years and many have shut down - including what was my local one.\r\n\r\nBlogs and other venues have largely replaced the original appeal they had back in Seattle a decade ago.\r\n\r\nThe charter is outdated and was largely sold out anyway after the first few years, as directly related by the first people who created them, same as the occupy tactic has been over the past year, BTW.\r\n\r\n When "consensus decision process" moves in, the working poor and minorities are pushed out, marginalized and ignored. \r\n\r\nThe same pattern repeats over & over again, both here and overseas..\r\n\r\nNotice anything wrong with this picture ?\r\n\r\nWHERE ARE THE WORKING POOR AND MINORITIES ?\r\n\r\nCouldn't this rally pass for a tea bagger rally ?\r\n\r\n- sure looks awfully white and middle class to me..\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2012-09-18 23:02:49","modified":"2012-09-18 23:02:49","fileurl":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/occupy_1_year_old.jpg","image":{"original":"http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/\/uploads\/2012\/09\/occupy_1_year_old.jpg"}},{"id":255719,"heading":"something you should know all about","article":"the only problem with blogs are their insular nature and even further constrictions on open discussion without at least the tacit assurance of non partiality.\r\nThe spooks who killed the IMCs were aided by the lack of commitment to their own proposed cause, of the collective running the site. Or lack of training to respond to the assault waves. Either way they're dead.\r\nThe occupy and other movements were infiltrated and compromised by 'friendlies' like you, Hex.\r\nAnd what ever agency spawned you.\r\nThe recipe is simple, provide limited hang-outs to gain street credits and then attack topics that threaten the firewalls in this information flare.\r\n there are still sniping positions in this war of information and tinder rooms full of forbidden facts needed to counter the squall of BS, agi-prop and plain dis-info.\r\n\r\n","author":"that's right..","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-18 23:30:18","modified":"2012-09-18 23:30:18","fileurl":""},{"id":255721,"heading":"I only air the news - I don't make it","article":"> The occupy and other movements were infiltrated and compromised by 'friendlies' like you, Hex.\r\n\r\nBullshit\r\n\r\nI only air the news - I don't make it :\r\n\r\n\r\nOccupyWallSt\r\n\r\noccupy the airwaves.wv\r\n\r\nCall for National General Strike.wv\r\n\r\nOuting the Ringers.wv\r\n\r\nactive duty military and hells angels joining in.wv\r\n\r\nanti-ows memo american bankers assoation dirty secrets.wv\r\n\r\nWe_Are_The_Many_-_Makana.wv\r\n\r\nTom Morello wouldnt be surprised if Blackwater.wv\r\n\r\npolice in oakland use tear gas flash granades rubber bullets.wv\r\n\r\nOccupy Oakland prevails and over 1000 people return.wv\r\n\r\nDan Siegel on why he resigned Oakland.wv\r\n\r\nCrosby and Nash talking about OWS.wv\r\n\r\nCROSBY_NASH_AT_OWS_TEACH_YOUR_CHILDREN.wv\r\n\r\nmedia reform added to demands.wv\r\n\r\nPeoples University Arundhati Roy.wv\r\n\r\nwe are the 99 percent Protest_for_American_Revolution.wv\r\n\r\nAll_Good_People_Unedited_by_Lili_Haydn.wv\r\n\r\nChris_Hedges_This_one_could_take_them_all_down_Hedges_on_OWS.wv\r\n\r\ncurrent occupy encampments.wv\r\n\r\nGeraldo_and_Fox_run_away_from_Wall_Street.wv\r\n\r\nHelp_get_this_Occupy_Ad_on_TV_Current_TV.wv\r\n\r\nits a great day - to occupy wall street.wv\r\n\r\nOccupy Clear Channel March 12-12-2011.wv\r\n\r\noccupy clear channel.wv\r\n\r\noccupy clear channel part 2 - reader comments.wv\r\n\r\nOccupy_Wall_Street_-_We_Are_the_99_-_Jeremy_Gilchrist_Origin.wv\r\n\r\nOCCUPY_Your_City.wv\r\n\r\nOccupySF - Full march enters UN Plaza- 10 blocks long .wv\r\n\r\nows 3 weeks teabaggers 3 years.wv\r\n\r\nows update sun oct 9.wv\r\n\r\nOWS_Cynical30_-_DWELL_Occupy.wv\r\n\r\npsyop msm against the people.wv\r\n\r\nELOQUENT OCCUPIER Daniel Murphy_s 3 minute rant to line of N.wv\r\n\r\nFear Channel by Shahid Mustafa _ Occupy Your Food Co-Op.wv\r\n\r\nHonky Tonk Queen at Occupy Wall Street.wv\r\n\r\nI Occupy wall street (Official song).wv\r\n\r\nJT - The People United - 01 The People United.wv\r\n\r\nMic Check This is what democracy looks like Occupy Song.wv\r\n\r\nMIC CHECK_ OUR BODIES OUR LIVES_ February 23 Richmond Virg.wv\r\n\r\nOccupy - Andrea Hudson ft Caitlin Mackenzie Smith.wv\r\n\r\nOccupy - Still Free (Take a Chance on Me).wv\r\n\r\nOccupy Clear Channel March 12-12-2011(updated - better sound).wv\r\n\r\nOCCUPY ECONOMICS PART lll.wv\r\n\r\nOccupy LSX is Evicted - You Can_t Evict an Idea.wv\r\n\r\nOccupy Wall Street Theme Song (official).wv\r\n\r\nOCCUPY WALLSTREET PROTEST SONG- _99%_ SHARE THIS.wv\r\n\r\nOccupy Alec Scottsdale RAW UNCUT Video11-30-2011.wv\r\n\r\nOWS update.wv\r\n\r\nSpring is here for OWS.wv\r\n\r\nWe Are The 99 (Occupy Protest Song) Rick Harris.wv\r\n\r\nWe are the 99percent.wv\r\n\r\nWHERE_DID_ALL_THE_GOOD_PEOPLE_GO.wv\r\n\r\nRae Abileah invites you to Occupy AIPAC Not Palestine.wv\r\n","author":"crazy_inventor","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-19 00:03:48","modified":"2012-09-19 00:03:48","fileurl":""},{"id":255724,"heading":"pee pee hypocrites","article":""For instance, there are certain things they have let out in these discussions they may have not intended to open to the readership.\r\nLike keeping I. P. logs. "\r\n\r\nYou laughed and slapped your paws like a trained seal when people were banned from a particular indymedia. It never took a genius to understand how they did it. \r\n\r\nnessie was the worst megalomaniac of all. Now just how did she block people from posting? And she lied, saying the IMC never knew who came and went, but she played her hand when she said Pittsburgh, etc, could read the server logs.\r\n\r\nThis place never was open. It's a honeypot.","author":"laughing man","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-19 00:35:06","modified":"2012-09-19 00:35:06","fileurl":""},{"id":255731,"heading":"sure did","article":"of course The Arizona IMC banned you. You're a hate warped psychopath. and your post were\/are prime examples of mental illness gone full bloom. \r\nI did have the phrase "without cause" in my comment.\r\nIndividuals like you belong in a place where others are safe from your kind. Like a cell. Maybe padded.","author":"yep","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-19 10:53:48","modified":"2012-09-19 10:53:48","fileurl":""},{"id":255746,"heading":""The Arizona IMC banned you"","article":"Yeah, and just how does anyone get banned on a so-called open wire, where certain hate filled psychopaths claimed they didn't know who you were and didn't want to know?\r\n\r\nBut do what you do best, sweetheart - focus on me instead of the elephant in the room.\r\n\r\nToodles, fool.","author":"in awe of the imbecile","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-19 15:55:49","modified":"2012-09-19 15:55:49","fileurl":""},{"id":255754,"heading":"yet another psycho charge going off","article":"can't seem to understand the concept of without cause and due cause, huh?\r\nYou and only you are the reason you were banned. After a weasel shits in the house many times, you screen it out.\r\nOr is that too complex for your burnt out OCD riddled thought processes?","author":"yep","parent_id":255011,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2012-09-19 18:33:34","modified":"2012-09-19 18:33:34","fileurl":""}]}