<\/p>\r\n\r\n
The extension opens the\r\ndoor to reclaim the Farm, but Jan Perry, infamous for running the homeless off\r\nher streets, for gentrifying the downtown section of her district while\r\n\"developing\" low-wage strip malls, warehouses, and dead-end jobs for\r\nher South Central constituents, is buttressing City Hall's resistance to change. \r\nMeanwhile, Farm\r\nsupporters are back on neighborhood streets. They're making more phone\r\ncalls. They're carrying petitions to area gatherings and across the\r\ncountry. They're asking Angelinos to send an online\r\npetition to the Planning Department, to demand the Recreation and Parks\r\nCommission weigh in and protect the adjacent proposed soccer field, to read the MND\r\nand the rest of the documents at the South Central Farm website,\r\nto offer to help. They're\r\nasking the people of Los Angeles to unite once more, to reach out from our urban\r\nisolation in defiance of all that conspires to divide us, in order to restore the South\r\nCentral Farm, the world's largest urban farm, an oasis in the middle of \r\nLos Angeles's industrial wasteland.<\/p>\r\nThis is now: Taking on City Hall, 2008<\/i><\/u><\/b>\r\n
Today the South Central Farm is a\r\npatch of fertile earth, the sprouts of corn and cactus regularly plowed back\r\ninto the earth by\r\nHorowitz, while he leaves the litter and refuse to clutter the land. But the Farm still lives in the hearts of\r\nAngelinos. On July 2, 2008, Farmers, area residents, and their supporters returned to City Hall\r\nafter a two year hiatus to protest Horowitz's construction\r\nof a distribution center on the Farm.<\/p>\r\n
In mid-June, the City noticed the South Central Farm Cultural Center and residents\r\nwithin five hundred feet of the Farm that Horowitz had been issued a\r\nmitigated negative declaration, a \"neg dec,\" <\/i>permitting him to begin construction\r\non a 643,000\r\nsquare-foot distribution center for an unnamed tenant shaped like an\r\n\"h,\" a grotesque monument to development. A neg\r\ndec is a declaration by the City Planning Department's that the project would have no adverse\r\nenvironmental impact, that an Environmental Impact Report normally required by\r\nthe California Environmental Quality Act is unnecessary. \r\nFrom the security of the upper floors of City Hall, the City\r\nPlanning Department's Deputy\r\nAdvisory Board had obligingly taken the word of\r\nHorowitz's consultants, Terry A. Hayes and Environmental Planning Associates, that\r\nHorowitz's monstrous warehouse, capable of\r\ntransferring cargo from up to 1200 tractor-trailer trucks daily, spewing diesel fumes\r\nand traffic into surrounding neighborhoods 24 hours a day, displacing 57,300\r\ncubic yards of earth for a subterranean garage, would have no environmental\r\nimpact. No effect on human health and safety, no effect on neighborhood\r\nnoise levels, no effect on possible archeological remains or on the wildlife\r\nthat still occupies the land, or on the water table below it. City Hall and Perry were at it again,\r\nsubverting the California Environmental Quality Act, the meaning of\r\nEnvironmental Impact Reports, the point of the 1964 Civil Rights Act's ban on\r\nenvironmental discrimination, all to grease the wheels for\r\ndeveloper Horowitz.<\/p>\r\n
Tezozomoc, who, with Rufina Juarez, organized the Farmers to save the\r\nFarm in 2003, swore he would stand alone in front of the Deputy Advisory Board's\r\nhearing to protect the Farm if he had to. But a week and a few phone calls later,\r\nand the South Central Farm Cultural Center was filled with people working out the details of\r\nrescuing the Farm, organizing work crews, painting signs and banners, making more phone\r\ncalls. Residents were canvassed, petitions went up online and out to area\r\nevents, the media was notified. The fight for the Farm was on, or, as the\r\nFarmers had chanted in vigils for two years since the eviction notice, \"¡Aquí estamos, y no nos\r\nvamos!\" Their cry again echoed across the Los Angeles basin.<\/p>\r\n
Two weeks later, on July 2, South Central Farm supporters staged a rally\r\nat City Hall and then piled into a hearing room deep in the\r\nlabyrinth of the bastion of development. There, they defended the Farm, the right to grow food, and the environmental rights of the largely neglected and working-class\r\nneighborhood alongside the Farm. <\/p>\r\n
The\r\nmedia flocked to the press conference on the City\r\nHall east lawn. Fifty supporters in SCF T-shirts, brushed off after two years,\r\nwalked the sidewalk in front of City Hall with banners\r\nand signs. A banner was draped over the nearby 110 freeway. The demonstrators chanted, danzantes danced, musicians strummed vihuelas, and car horns gleefully pierced the din of downtown\r\ntraffic in support. Thirty\r\nneighborhood residents and Farmers waited in the tenth-floor hearing\r\nroom. At ten o'clock,\r\nthe ralliers joined those upstairs. The\r\ncrowd mushroomed, spilling out of the 100-seat hearing room into the hallways and\r\nan overflow room. City Hall security prowled the sidewalks and the corridors,\r\nprepared to keep City Hall secure from the people of Los Angeles.<\/p>\r\n
The\r\nDeputy Advisory Board of L.A.'s Planning Department relented even before the first\r\nresident spoke. Announcing that the Board would reconsider the MND, she\r\ncited the number of letters they had already\r\nreceived. Then she extended the comment period. At that, Rufina Juarez handed the Board new petitions with nearly eight\r\nhundred more signatures, and a hundred and forty hand-written letters from Farm\r\nneighbors. City Hall shuddered.<\/p>\r\n
The Board had in front\r\nof them a letter from the National Resources Defense Council, in which its 1.2\r\nmillion members demanded a full Environmental Impact Report. <\/i>In a 21-page\r\nanalysis, the Center\r\nfor Biological Diversity noted \"the failure [of the Mitigated Negative\r\nDeclaration] to consider\r\nfeasible mitigation measures and alternatives to reduce this cumulatively\r\nsignificant impact\" and that \"the MND cavalierly dismisses Project\r\nimpacts on global warming.\" Communities for a Better Environment drafted a report on\r\nenvironmental justice, and the Acequia Institute wrote:<\/p>\r\n\r\n
The destruction by\r\n bulldozers of the world-acclaimed South Central Farm and eviction of the\r\n farmers in July of 2006 marks the most controversial episode in the entire\r\n history of urban planning and land use decision-making in the Los\r\n Angeles-area. The decision to proceed with the destruction of the farm met\r\n with widespread, indeed global, condemnation of an act that displaced a rare\r\n and precious cultural and agroecological site of singular importance to the\r\n non-governmental and governmental agencies concerned with the future of our\r\n local food systems and more sustainable forms of urban inhabitation and land\r\n use. . . .\r\n \r\n <\/span><\/p>\r\n [T]he MND does \r\n not even identify environmental\r\n justice principles, issues, relevant regulations, and assessment methods.\r\n Failing to provide such an analysis means that the proposal, if approved as\r\n is, would constitute the most serious and egregious violation of environmental\r\n justice principles by LA City and County governments, the Port Authority, land\r\n use planning authorities, and other interested parties.<\/p>\r\n\r\n Two\r\ndozen speakers for an hour and a half gave life to the experts'\r\ntestimony. They spoke of noise and the dangers of children crossing\r\ntraffic. They confronted the Board with the known risks of\r\ndiesel fumes, of asthma, cancer, emphysema, and underdeveloped lungs in\r\nchildren, that the Board had blithely ignored when they waived an Environmental Impact\r\nReport for Horowitz. They testified about living in the backyard of\r\nindustrialization and dared the Board to do the same. \"With this project, we wouldn't\r\nhave any tranquility day or night,\" said the first resident to speak. \r\nHorowitz's latest consultants, Rosenheim and Associates, a public policy\r\nconsulting firm trying to establish the inherent industrial character of the\r\nneighborhood, had testified that forty-six freight trains and\r\nthe Blue Line already roared through the neighborhood daily.<\/p>\r\n She\r\nleft the table facing the Deputy Advisory Board and walked back to the visitors' seats. Three\r\nspeakers remained, a couple of them looking nervously at the microphones in front of\r\nthem. A fourth came up and sat at the vacant seat, waiting her turn.<\/p>\r\n The next\r\nspeaker said quietly but firmly, \"They should have called us before\r\nthey did this project, because we have the right as residents to speak of\r\nthis. We have children, the fumes there are bad for them, people that are\r\nsick. I don't think this should be built there.\"<\/p>\r\n Tezozomoc\r\ncited Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the California Environmental\r\nQuality Act, and listed the areas frequented by the young, the elderly, and the\r\nsick in proximity to the warehouse: Thomas\r\nJefferson High School, Ross Snyder Recreational Center, Metro Vernon Station, the Alameda\r\nSwap Meet, Vernon Elementary School, and the City's proposed recreation center\r\nand soccer field adjacent to the truck depot.<\/p>\r\n Then\r\na teacher from Vernon Elementary explained to the Board about learning in industrial\r\ndesolation:\r\n\"Some\r\nof the challenges faced by students are emissions and pollutants in the air that\r\ngive off very awful smells and make concentrating on learning very difficult. .\r\n. . Every day they are breathing that unhealthy air, and that isn't acceptable.\r\n. . .This body should\r\nwork with the community for what is in the community's best interest, not the\r\ndeveloper's. I urge you to deny, deny, deny<\/i> the developer's plan. No\r\nmatter how you design it, it is still another polluting warehouse.\"<\/p>\r\n It\r\nfell to Communities for a Better Environment to drop the first hint of reclaiming the\r\nFarm: \"The [Environmental Impact Report] needs to establish\r\nthe baseline as when this land was home to the community garden, and compare it\r\nto the impact of the proposed project. The EIR must take into account\r\nissues of air quality, noise, public health, storm water discharge, aesthetics,\r\ntraffic, cumulative impacts, and environmental justice.\"<\/p>\r\n Brad\r\nRosenheim and his associate had argued that the warehouse would create jobs, and\r\nnow they sat on one side of the front row, leaning back with their legs splayed\r\nand arms crossed. They sat, impassive and withdrawn, as a former warehouse worker told the Board and the residents about warehouse\r\njobs. <\/p>\r\n\r\n It's not a nice job, and I don't\r\nthink any of these men would have their sons and their nephews working in these\r\nwarehouses, much less if they didn't say it was going to be union jobs. \r\nI'm sure it's going to be twelve hundred non-union jobs, low wage, long hours,\r\nand let me tell you what happens in those kind of warehouses. If things\r\nare spilled, you sweep it out of the way. And trucks have to wait, let the\r\nengine run, because they don't want to shut it off and have to start it back up\r\nand waste gas. There's hazardous materials that are open and need to be\r\ntaken care of immediately, that are left in the corner, put off to the\r\nside because production has to keep moving and we can't slow down because\r\nprofits have to be made. . . . So I implore you, please,\r\nplease, I implore you to deny this plan, and to take into consideration\r\neverything that the community has talked about here, including the things that\r\nthese power brokers smirk at, like the kids and the hawks and the trees. \r\nThat's what's important to us. That's what makes up our sacred\r\nchurch. So please, I implore you, it's not as easy as they make it sound,\r\nthere's a lot of complicated things involved here, including the health and the\r\nlives of our children.<\/p>\r\n\r\n Speaker\r\nafter speaker rotated up to a place at the speakers' table, and each firmly, with clear conviction, confronted\r\nthe Board across its buttress of desks.<\/p>\r\n \"The idea of putting a\r\nchild's recreational center next to a distribution center packed with evil\r\ntrucks, doesn't anybody feel compelled to care for or take some responsibility\r\nfor the health and safety of the children of the Ninth District?\" At\r\nmoments, Board members looked nonplussed at the heartfelt outpouring in front of\r\nthem.<\/p>\r\n A teacher's assistant at Jefferson High\r\nSchool explained what the Farm meant to her students. \"They\r\nhave to deal with a lot issues in their life, and the\r\nSouth Central Farm provided a place of refuge. It was one of the few after\r\nschool programs offered for our students. . . .\r\nI'm a bilingual T.A. with English learners, and the students I work with,\r\nthey're extremely isolated and they're cut off from their homes, from their\r\nculture, and the Farm was really the only place where they were able to\r\nreconnect with that, to learn from the people that were role models for\r\nthem. [The Farm] built up a sense of pride in their culture, in their\r\nhistory, and in their people, and to take something away like that was\r\nreally heartbreaking for them.\"<\/p>\r\n \"Air pollution does not stay in\r\none area. It will affect children and the elderly the most, people who\r\nlive and work and play around that vicinity. We're using taxpayer dollars to\r\nclean up this pollution, to pay for the health care of these kids with asthma. \r\nWe're taxpayers as well.\"<\/p>\r\n A\r\nmember of the Regional Comprehensive Planning\r\nTask\r\nForce for the California Association of Governments noted that the regional plan\r\nrequires open spaces for Southeast and South Central Los Angeles, specifically\r\ncommunity gardens and farmers' markets, and that community stability and economic\r\nself-reliance were values recognized in the regional plan. He declared that the City had violated the\r\nplan when it facilitate the destruction of the Farm. <\/p>\r\n And another: \"There are students and workers\r\nbehind me that have made sacrifices to be here today. Our community in\r\nSouth L.A. is drowning in warehouses, and the few jobs that are projected to be\r\nprovided by this warehouse are not guaranteed to go to the community.\"<\/p>\r\n Calls\r\nfor an Environmental Impact Report and the reclamation of the Farm continued,\r\nwith warnings about traffic and safety hazards, about\r\nthe seventy-foot water table\r\nendangered by the proposed underground parking garage. A truckers'\r\norganizer for the IWW testified that trucks would have nowhere to wait except to\r\nidle along the streets surrounding the warehouse, that the warehouse truck docks were too narrow to turn in.<\/p>\r\n A\r\nmember of the Longest Walk, a cross-continental walk to protect Native American rights\r\nand the Native way of life, turned the morning's message back on the Deputy\r\nAdvisory Board: \"See that\r\npicture right there? You can clearly see the sky above it, and all that brown\r\nstuff right there, you're breathing that too, no matter where you live, it's all\r\nsouthern California. If you open up that window right there, you'll\r\nprobably get a better look for yourself and see exactly how nasty it is\r\n. . . So you\r\nguys got to think about your own health and your own children's health and their\r\nchildren's health too, because this doesn't just affect us who live in poor\r\ncommunities.\"<\/p>\r\n Another\r\nspeaker said much the same: \"We don't want any more asthmas or\r\nrespiratory or lung illnesses. We want clean air. We don't want any\r\nmore invasion of poor communities. Just like they share their project with\r\nus, we would love to share our illnesses with them. I would love for them\r\nto live there, so they can understand what's going on.\" <\/p>\r\n A woman challenged the Board: \"Look what they have done to this\r\narea. There's no trees, there's no parks: What are you trying to do to\r\nthese people? I wish you could have to go there, take your lunch on a few occasions, \r\nand leave and see how these people are suffering.\"<\/p>\r\n When the neighbors, the supporters,\r\nand the\r\nFarmers had finished, a lone representative from Councilmember Perry's office sat at the table. Perry chairs the\r\nCity Council's Energy and Environment Committee and sits on board of the South\r\nCoast Air Quality Management District, which touts that \"AQMD Board members\r\nhave an understanding of the air pollution problems facing the general\r\npublic.\" But Perry had determined to oppose growing healthy food and protecting the air, the earth, the water,\r\nand the quality of life for this strip\r\nof her district. Speaking for Perry, her aid warned the crowd and the\r\nBoard: \"Councilmember Perry recognizes a lot of the problems\r\nthat were brought up. I think that some of them have to do with the site,\r\nothers of them are larger issues that face the community. . . . The warehouse\r\nbeing located here, we do feel it is an appropriate site for the warehouse and\r\nare supportive of that.\"<\/p>\r\n Perry must have been asleep at the switch. The day\r\nof the hearing, the SCAQMD faxed a letter to the City Planning Division roundly\r\ndenouncing the neg dec and recommending that the Planning Commission,\r\n\"specifically prohibit land uses that would include sensitive receptors or\r\nindustrial land uses that would further expose existing sensitive receptors\r\nnearby,\" apparently referring to the proposed recreation area next to the\r\nwarehouse. The SCAQMD went on to fault the findings for using incorrect\r\nreferences for soil handling, for referencing anti-pollution devices that may\r\nnot exist, and for comparing the truck emissions of the proposed facility to a\r\nmuch smaller facility. It recommended, among other adjustments, that the\r\nproject include a 300 meter buffer zone between the distribution center and\r\nsensitive receptors, constructing freeway off-ramps to the facility, and\r\nreconfiguring the architectural plans to move the main entrance off Long Beach\r\nAvenue. With the SCAQMD restrictions, industrial development on the land\r\nmay be impossible.<\/p>\r\n In 2006, Perry had enough clout to force Mayer\r\nVillaraigosa and the rest of the City Council to defy their constituents and\r\ngive in to the developer Horowitz. Today, rumors are that, after two years of waiting, Jan Perry\r\ncounted the Farm Movement out. And, reports continue, that since the\r\npeople of the Ninth District condemned the project, Perry is on a rampage to salvage her job. <\/p>\r\nAnd that was then . . .<\/b><\/i><\/u>\r\n Mostly, Los Angeles is an assortment of adjacent but\r\nisolated enclaves transversed by the freeways and major transportation arteries. We locate ourselves in relation to\r\nthem. I live at the 405 and the 710, or just east of the 110 near the 5,\r\nor on the other side of the 101. The freeways have been cultural and economic borders\r\nat least since the 1980's, when the Westside (west of La Brea,\r\nnorth of the 10) was closed off by expensive, single-family homes, gated\r\ncommunities, and not-in-my-back-yard lines in the asphalt. Drive across L.A. on the 10, and your windshield becomes a\r\nmovie screen of the income gap, and of ethnic and cultural collisions. As\r\nSpanish-speakers came and stayed, East Los, unable to flow west, spilled into\r\nSouth Central and Inglewood, bastions of African-American tradition. We in L.A.\r\nrarely leave the freeway any more.<\/p>\r\n Except if you happened down the Alameda Corridor a couple\r\nof years or more ago. Through Los Angeles proper, the Alameda Corridor overlays Alameda Street. It was designed to connect\r\ntrucks and trains to the Port of Los\r\nAngeles. Along its path have sprung up warehouses, manufacturing plants,\r\nshipping centers and the rest of the repugnance of industrialization that cities try to keep tucked\r\nout of sight. In some places, industrial development overlays the homes and schools and playgrounds of\r\npeople living in its shadow. <\/p>\r\n In the middle of your drive\r\ndown Alameda, between Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and 41st Street, a couple of years ago you would have seen the South Central\r\nFarm. Back in 1986, the City had purchased the land from Ralph Horowitz and others\r\nas a site for a mammoth trash\r\nincinerator for $4.8M, but local residents rose\r\nup in one of first environmental\r\njustice movements in the country and defeated the notorious Lancer\r\nProject. In tribute to the people, Mayor Bradley gifted the area to the residents after the Rodney\r\nKing beating and the ensuing rebellion, in 1992. Forced past in the flow\r\nof moving traffic, you might barely have had time to glimpse the\r\n14-acre Farm, but, if your windows were open, the sudden jolt of oxygen-laden air was\r\npalpable. <\/p>\r\n \r\n\r\nThe City sold the land to the independent Port of Los Angeles in 1994 for $13M, and the Harbor\r\nlet the food bank across the street use it for a community garden. It\r\nblossomed into the largest urban farm in the world, feeding over 350 families\r\nand many in the neighborhood. Then, eleven years after it was\r\npurchased, in backroom\r\ndealings that have yet to be explained, the City sold the land a second time,\r\nto Horowitz, the developer who owned it before 1992, for just $400,000 more than\r\nthey price they paid him for it, a questionable gift of taxpayers' money to Horowitz. \r\nFor two years, the Farmers took time from their jobs and their farming to make twice-weekly trips to City Council meetings to implore the City to return the\r\nland to them, but by 2006 developer Ralph Horowitz had lined up the\r\nsupport of the Ninth District's councilmember, Jan Perry. Early in the spring, the\r\nfreeway boundaries\r\nthat divided Angelinos crumbled--people from all walks of life contributed to\r\nsaving the Farm when, at the behest of Horowitz and Perry, county sheriffs posted an eviction notice on the\r\nFarm fence.<\/p>\r\n Spanish-speaking Farmers and committed, mostly young, people\r\nfrom across the City occupied the Farm day and night. Movie and music\r\nstars and famous activists dropped in for publicity photo ops, and some stayed to\r\ntree-sit. Thousands of visitors from across southern California headed\r\neast or north or south or west to attend rock-star concerts and indigenous\r\nceremonies to benefit the Farm. People drove across the country to\r\nvisit. Prayers were offered in Africa and by Zapatista supporters in Atenco, Mexico. \r\nSomething essential, something like a connection to the land and these campesinos<\/i>,\r\nhad swept across Los Angeles. City Hall was quaking.<\/p>\r\n But Horowitz, proclaiming \"developers' rights\" over the\r\noutrage of Angelinos, put the\r\nland on the market for $16.3M. \r\nWhen the Annenberg Foundation and others came to the Farmers' rescue and offered\r\nHorowitz his asking price, he brusquely refused to sell it to the Farmers. \r\nThree months later, on July 3, 2006, the media filled TV screens and radios with\r\nthe sights and sounds of tree-sitters plucked off branches by hook-and-ladder trucks rolling\r\nacross ripe food. Supporters locked down in the fields, their arms chained in\r\nconcrete-filled oil drums. A cucumber in the tailpipe of a bulldozer shut\r\nit down for more than a day. Forty-four people were arrested, as the\r\nbulldozers destroyed fourteen years of labor in an afternoon. City Hall\r\nsettled back on its foundation: development, industrialization, and exploiting\r\nAngelinos for the sake of globalization.<\/p>\r\nAnd for tomorrow: Reclaiming the South Central Farm<\/u><\/b><\/i>\r\n It's happened before, a groundswell of Angelinos uniting\r\nto keep patches of green safe from asphalt and concrete. Back in 1999, the people\r\norganized and stopped the construction of downtown warehouses at the Cornfields,\r\nafter the Cultural Affairs Department determined the site was not historically\r\nsignificant. With dramatic justice, now the Cornfields houses the Los Angeles State Historical\r\nPark. In that same year, nearly forty community organizations banded\r\ntogether to save Taylor Yard from warehouses. Taylor Yard was purchased by\r\nthe State of California and is now a state park. <\/p>\r\n In 2006, Angelinos found one more treasure in their back\r\nyard, and they drove off the freeway grid, found each other, and fought City\r\nHall for the South Central Farm and the Farmers who brought it to life. Across the world, people held their\r\nbreath in hope, but City Hall recovered its footing and industrial developers heaved a\r\nsigh of relief. Now, the public comments will continue until July 23, from\r\nboth the Farm supporters and, no doubt, from whomever Rosenheim and Associates can round\r\nup. A week or two later, the Deputy Advisory Board will either stand by\r\nits Mitigated Negative Declaration or require an Environmental Impact\r\nReport. In either case, an appeal to the full Planning Commission is\r\nlikely. The question is, can Angelinos muster their connection to the land\r\nand culture in time and with enough\r\ndetermination to pry City Hall from the grip of developers? Can they\r\nrecover their city government and the South Central Farm for the people?<\/p>\r\n <\/p>\r\n\n","contact":"leslie@radiojustice.net","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"On July 2, Angelinos overcame the City-planned divides between rich and poor, cultural differences, and even broke through language barriers in the fight to restore the South Central Farm. When the developer proposed a diesel-spewing warehouse distribution center for the site, Farmers and Farm supporters threw a wrench in the cogs of City Hall and won a round in the fight to force Horowitz to do an Environmental Impact Report: they forced a twenty-one day delay for more public comments, and gained a glimmer of hope to restore the Farm. The fight between the people and developers' grip on City Hall could be decided by this Wednesday, July 23, 2008, the new deadline for public comments and the second hearing, a week or two later on the tenth floor of City Hall, in front of a small advisory board.","numcomment":4,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2008\/07\/219015.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":219055,"heading":"Re: Save the Farm. Deadline: Wednesday, July 23, 2008","article":"Seems the link to sign the petition to reclaim the Farm isn't working for some people. Try this and scroll down the page, or start from www.southcentralfarmers.com and search on the page for "petition."\r\n\r\nand it turns out it was zucchini, not a cucumber.\r\n","author":"Leslie","parent_id":219015,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2008-07-24 01:50:16","modified":"2008-07-24 01:50:16","fileurl":""},{"id":219244,"heading":"McKim","article":"McKim, \r\n\r\nI can tell from a brief perusal of your comments that you have little to no knowledge of the complicated subjects of which you have chosen to discuss. Please become informed before commenting further. Thanks for playing.\r\n\r\n-The Human Race","author":"pete nice","parent_id":219015,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2008-08-04 04:53:51","modified":"2008-08-04 04:53:51","fileurl":""},{"id":219245,"heading":"McKim","article":"McKim, \r\n\r\nI can tell from a brief perusal of your comments that you have little to no knowledge of the complicated subjects of which you have chosen to discuss. Please become informed before commenting further. Thanks for playing.\r\n\r\n-The Human Race","author":"pete nice","parent_id":219015,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2008-08-04 04:54:26","modified":"2008-08-04 04:54:26","fileurl":""}]}