{"article":{"id":210498,"heading":"KPFK Programmer Plugged Assistant Running as Listener Sponsor in LSB election","author":"Miles Copeland","created":"2007-11-24 10:00:28","modified":"2007-12-02 08:04:48","last_modified":"Sun, 02 Dec 2007 15:04:48","article":"\n

It would be really helpful if you<\/i> would repost anything you find useful over here, over there, since you've found the wonderful world of LA Indymedia.<\/p>\r\n\r\n

Time is tight for me right now, but I agree, all of this should be available to as many voters as possible. Hope you can help.<\/p>\r\n\r\n

\r\nYou CAN request a new ballot if you do so by November 30, if you want to change your vote<\/b>. And if you lost or never received your ballot, you can get one if you request it by that deadline. Write to ballot@pacifica.org<\/a> to request a new ballot.<\/b> \r\n<\/p>","author":"Leslie","parent_id":210498,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2007-11-29 03:38:12","modified":"2007-11-29 03:38:12","fileurl":""},{"id":210856,"heading":"In Defense of Lich Doan","article":"The definition of a \u2018staff member\u2019 is defined in the Pacifica Bylaws. You can access the Pacifica Bylaws at the Pacifica website.\r\n\r\nFor your convenience I\u2019ve quoted the section that refers to this:\r\nPacifica Bylaws\r\nARTICLE THREE\r\nMEMBERS OF THE FOUNDATION\r\nSECTION 1. MEMBERS DEFINED \r\nThere shall be two classes of members: (A) "Listener-Sponsor Members" and (B) "Staff Members", who shall collectively be referred to as "Members."\u2026\r\n\r\nB. STAFF MEMBERS \r\n"Staff Members" shall be: (1) any non-management full-time or part-time paid employee of a Foundation radio station; or (2) any member of a Foundation radio station "Unpaid Staff Organization" or "Unpaid Staff Collective Bargaining Unit" which has been recognized by station management, or, if the station has neither such organization or bargaining unit, then any volunteer or unpaid staff member of a Foundation radio station who has worked for said radio station at least 30 hours in the preceding 3 months, exclusive of fundraising marathon telephone room volunteer time. Said volunteer work shall be performed under the supervision of the Foundation radio station management and shall not include volunteer work on committees of a Local Station Board. Radio station management employees and Foundation staff employees who are not employed at a Foundation radio station shall not qualify as Staff Members, however, such employees may qualify as Listener-Sponsor Members by contributing the requisite minimum dollar amount as set forth in Section 1(A) of this Article of these Bylaws.\r\n\r\nI spoke with Lich myself before he became a Listener-Member candidate. He did so because he did not qualify to be a staff candidate because he doesn\u2019t put in enough volunteer time to be eligible. \r\nWe actually went over this at a meeting of the Committee to Strengthen KPFK. We already had plenty of Listener-Member candidates (12 with Lich)!! It might even have been better for him to run as a staff candidate.\r\n\r\nIt\u2019s interesting how Leslie and others, who purport to be in favor of affirmative action, diversity and youth representation, are so eager to try to disqualify Lich, a young Vietnamese-American, and Donna Warren, an African-American woman. Hypocrisy is certainly a universal human characteristic.\r\n\r\nPeople who are fair-minded usually verify the facts before making accusations. To fail to do so just results in the mud being slung winding up in the slinger\u2019s face.\r\n\r\nGrace Aaron\r\n\r\n","author":"Grace Aaron","parent_id":210498,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-11-29 21:06:03","modified":"2013-11-11 00:50:21","fileurl":""},{"id":210888,"heading":"Welcome, Grace","article":"Good to see you hear again. There a lot of questions for you on your thread.\r\n\r\nBut I never made an accusation about Lich. I posed a conundrum I had a problem with--how can an assistant producer for a 2-hour a week show *not* put in 30 hours over 13 weeks?\r\n\r\nAnd for the record, I would have not questioned his candidacy if he had run as a staff member. His youth and "diversity" (Grace's word) shouldn't put him outside of the rules, though. And I have never tried to disqualify Donna Warren.\r\n\r\nPlz, Grace read carefully and stick to facts on the ground. There are enough people around here making up stuff.","author":"Leslie","parent_id":210498,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-11-30 05:17:04","modified":"2007-11-30 05:17:04","fileurl":""},{"id":210922,"heading":"Loophole Allowing Programmer to Control of Listener Sponsor Should be Closed","article":"I find it difficult to believe as a matter of fact that Lich Doan did not qualify under the 30-hour 13-week rule.\r\n\r\nRegardless, someone like Doan, under control of a programmer, should not be allowed on the LSB as a listener sponsor position.\r\n\r\nHaving separate listener and staff positions on the board serves the purpose of giving control of the station to listeners and keeping insiders at the station from controlling it themselves. This is a real danger. KPFK exists to serve its listeners, not the people who work there. The people who work there have incentive, time, and access and the ability to form slate committees to make the station work for their benefit. Separate listener positions limits the influence programmers can have and keeps them from taking over the station.\r\n\r\nTime and time again, Masters has told us he has his own ideas over how the station should be run. Masters has a vote in the staff election.\r\n\r\nDoan knows that while he may be an assistant producer on Background Briefing today, he may not be an assistant producer tomorrow, if Masters so decides. If Masters doesn't like what he does on the Board, Masters can make him not an assistant producer. Doan would have a conflict between representing listeners who would have elected him and Masters who controls his present professional position in the industry.\r\n\r\nIf Masters can do this, so can any other programmer. Staff could take over the entire board doing this.\r\n\r\nAllowing such a situation to arise defeats the purpose of keeping staff from being able to dominate the board. The rule should be changed to prevent this from happening and to protect listener control of the station.","author":"May","parent_id":210498,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-11-30 21:34:01","modified":"2007-11-30 21:34:01","fileurl":""},{"id":210982,"heading":"Re:In Defense of Lich Doan","article":"May,\r\n\r\nGrace has almost told you what happened. After Lila et al. got done packing their slate with PDA members to get Marcy Winograd approved as GM, Ian Masters demanded his representative be on the LSB, too.\r\n\r\nBut Lich is a staff member, and the Committee had its 3 staffers. They didn't want to split that small voting pool 4 ways and risk losing a seat to Agustin or Margaret.\r\n\r\nThe Committee, as Grace says, pondered long and hard. What to do with Lich\/for Ian? But Ian figured it out: Lich had a pretty good shot as a listener candidate, since Ian could plug him at the end of every show.\r\n\r\nHere's the trick: the producers of each show (Ian Masters, executive producer for Background Briefing, in this case) certifies who qualifies as a staff member for the purposes of the election. So Ian doesn't certify him, or, as Grace says, "Lich didn't qualify." And he's all set up to run as Masters' candidate.\r\n\r\nThat was easy, wasn't it?","author":"another insider","parent_id":210498,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-12-02 03:25:49","modified":"2007-12-02 03:25:49","fileurl":""},{"id":210983,"heading":"addition and correction "Defense of LIch Doan"","article":"a detail--The committee thought about dumping Eben Rey but she was too good stirring up the station against Eva so they owed her (and who would want Eben mad at them)?\r\n\r\nTo be honest, I don't remember if it was Ian who came up with the idea of running Lich as a listener. In any case, presto! chango! a listener candidate.\r\n\r\nFeel sorry for Lich. He doesn't get half of what's going on over his head. Up until the election, he thought everyone adored Ian but he's finding out his hero has clay feet.","author":"another insider","parent_id":210498,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-12-02 04:39:38","modified":"2007-12-02 04:39:38","fileurl":""},{"id":210989,"heading":"The more it goes on, the worse it gets","article":"The more this story goes on, the worse it gets.\r\n\r\nRegardless of who gets elected, KPFK will have a divided board and community.\r\n\r\nOn the street, you are supposed to clean up your dog's mess. Lila and Grace created this mess. By analogy to your dog. Lila and Grace should clean it up.","author":"May","parent_id":210498,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-12-02 08:04:48","modified":"2007-12-02 08:04:48","fileurl":""}]}