{"article":{"id":201170,"heading":"Cheney's corruption of America","author":"Digery Cohen","created":"2007-06-21 05:06:17","modified":"2013-11-11 00:48:52","last_modified":"Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:48:52","article":"

Cheney’s corruption of America.

Has now reached the courts.

Libby is about to be corruptly let off going to jail by judges, chosen by Cheney, for a crime Cheney, himself, committed.

That crime was the treasonous attack and exposure of a CIA agent by Cheney because that CIA agent’s husband exposed Cheney’s criminal lead up to the Iraq invasion.

Cheney has used the laws and powers - he brought in after his incompetence in failing to stop 9\/11- to corrupt American democracy, totally.

Civil liberties have been destroyed, in public and in secret by the Patriot Act and his other statutes.

The full extent of this has yet to become clear.

Congress is unable to act to protect America because any Congress member who tries will be ejected from their seat, or worse, by the new gatekeepers of democracy in America – The AIPAC.

This is what happens you get when you have a weak, cowardly and stupid President and the country is run by an ex coward and dollar moron like Cheney.

<\/p>\n","contact":"digerycohen@yahoo.co.uk","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","summary":"Has now reached the courts","numcomment":47,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2007\/06\/get-out-of-jail-card2.jpg","filesize":"150.1 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2007\/06\/201170.php","image":{"original":"\/uploads\/2007\/06\/get-out-of-jail-card2.jpg","small":"\/uploads\/2007\/06\/get-out-of-jail-card2.jpgthumb.jpg","medium":"\/uploads\/2007\/06\/get-out-of-jail-card2.jpgmid.jpg"}},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":201193,"heading":"THE BUSH 9-11 JUNTA ON THE BUSH POST 9-11 HIJACKING OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM","article":"HIS UNHOLINESS (GEORGE WARMONGER BUSH) : "Sorry to Oil the Post 9-11 Hijacking of the US Government, the Bush Sponsored Secret Trials in Secret Courts, the Get out of Jail Cards for Bush Junta Felons, the Bush Push to protect Enron Felons, the Bush Push to protect convicted CEO's, and the Bush Push to prosecute Antiwar protesters on Trumped up Charges but Oil comes First. READY TO REVIL WITH THE DEVIL ????????"","author":"THE BUSH 9-11 JUNTA","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-21 12:11:18","modified":"2007-06-21 12:11:18","fileurl":""},{"id":201215,"heading":"Heh","article":""Libby is about to be corruptly let off going to jail by judges, chosen by Cheney, for a crime Cheney, himself, committed.\r\n\r\nThat crime was the treasonous attack and exposure of a CIA agent by Cheney because that CIA agent\u2019s husband exposed Cheney\u2019s criminal lead up to the Iraq invasion."\r\n\r\n Once more this 'Digery' clown illustrates his feeble attemps at Orwellian revisionism....Valerie Plame was 'outed',....if that is the right word...by Richard Armitage...who has admitted that it was him....this was known to Patrick Fitzgerald before he even begain his investigation....and he chose not to prosecute Armitage since Plame was not covered by the Intelligence Officers Identities Act or whatever it's called....if she had been,Fitzgerald would have indicted Armitage....so there was never ANY 'predicate felony' to this entire episode....Libby's 'perjury' was a ''process crime'...committed during the investigation itself.....too bad 'Digery' assumed wrongly that nobody knew this","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-21 18:01:48","modified":"2013-11-11 00:48:52","fileurl":""},{"id":201229,"heading":"Patrick Fitzgerald","article":"Wasn't Patrick Fitzgerald the tool that prosecuted the 1993 WTC bombing and let the FBI off the hook even when it was proven that the FBI financed the 'plot', provided the informant ( instigator ) as well as the explosives?\r\nThe legal system is corrupt, in case anyone wanted to know. This is pure perception management for public entertainment. Not an investigation or parish the thought, justice.","author":"cryer","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-21 21:06:57","modified":"2007-06-21 21:06:57","fileurl":""},{"id":201232,"heading":"Huh?","article":" It was never 'proven' that the FBI was in ANY way involved in the 1993 WTC bombing... if you have anything to back that up other than your own feeble assertion,then you need to provide it here...Fitzgerald did prosecute that case and succeeded in putting Mullah Omar et al in prison for it...and the word is PERISH....not 'parish',","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-21 21:57:25","modified":"2007-06-21 21:57:25","fileurl":""},{"id":201239,"heading":"too bad about that","article":"Yup it is too bad that Ali Salem had a wire on him when he was under FBI direction as the 'informant' who organized the affair and RECORDED the conversations he had with his FBI handler. \r\nVery embarrassing.\r\n\r\nBut you have to admit that the FBI who did supply the explosives, had good stuff, eh?\r\n","author":"cryer","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 00:01:19","modified":"2007-06-22 00:01:19","fileurl":""},{"id":201264,"heading":"Heh","article":" Actually all I 'have to admit' is that you made the whole thing up...you can't site a single reference or source for your lame ass assertion so clearly this is simply disinformation on your part","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 06:36:04","modified":"2007-06-22 06:36:04","fileurl":""},{"id":201273,"heading":"lord Dunce is lazy","article":"The 'lord' thinks you're too stupid to look up the particulars.\r\nYes the FBI was the terrorists who set up the 1993 WTC bombing.\r\n-Who Bombed the U.S. World Trade Center? \u2014 1993\r\nhttp:\/\/takingaim.info\/articles\/wtc93.html\r\nOr\r\n-FBI Informant Edam Salem: "...we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful great case!"\r\nJust use a search engine to find [ -FBI +WTC +1993 ] and see for yourself.\r\nJust because the 'lord' is ignorant, it doesn't mean the reader has to be.","author":"cryer","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 10:39:57","modified":"2013-11-11 00:48:52","fileurl":""},{"id":201277,"heading":"heh","article":"So what you are saying in effect is that Blll Clinton was behind it and only used the FBI to do his dirty work and that every media outlet in the US went along with the so called coverup out of love and loyaly to Clinton...heh.....you cite the same Ralph Schoenman who habitually questions the sanity of ANYONE who has the temerity to disagree with him....including the late Bertrand Russell to whom he was personal secretary....you site nothing other than the OPINION of a life long anti American activist with an axe to grind here....sort of like citing Lyndon LaRouche in terms of his credibility....and the article you site says nothing at all about your assertion that the FBI provided the explosives.....so, like I said,you just made that up","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 11:41:30","modified":"2007-06-22 11:41:30","fileurl":""},{"id":201278,"heading":"take a look at this","article":"The 'lord' is really hoping you're stupid and didn't read the link.\r\nbut here's another to provide the explosive connection. \r\n\r\n\r\nTHE NEW YORK TIMES \r\n* * * * * \r\nThursday October 28, 1993 Page A1 \r\n"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart \r\nBomb Used in Trade Center Blast" \r\nBy Ralph Blumenthal \r\nLaw-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. \r\nThe informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said. \r\nThe account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings that Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as being in a far better position than previously known to foil the February 26th bombing of New York City's tallest towers. \r\nThe explosion left six people dead, more than a thousand people injured, and damages in excess of half-a-billion dollars. Four men are now on trial in Manhattan Federal Court [on charges of involvement] in that attack. \r\nMr. Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army officer, was used by the Government [of the United States] to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists who are now charged in two bombing cases: \r\nthe World Trade Center attack, and a foiled plot to destroy the United Nations, the Hudson River tunnels, and other New York City landmarks. He is the crucial witness in the second bombing case, but his work for the Government was erratic, and for months before the World Trade Center blast, he was feuding with the F.B.I. \r\nSupervisor `Messed It Up' \r\nAfter the bombing, he resumed his undercover work. In an undated transcript of a conversation from that period, Mr. Salem recounts a talk he had had earlier with an agent about an unnamed F.B.I. supervisor who, he said, "came and messed it up." "He requested to meet me in the hotel," Mr. Salem says of the supervisor. \r\n"He requested to make me to testify, and if he didn't push for that, we'll be going building the bomb with a phony powder, and grabbing the people who was involved in it. But since you, we didn't do that." \r\nThe transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted tocomplain to F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington about the Bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by an agent identified as John Anticev. \r\nMr. Salem said Mr. Anticev had told him, "He said, I don't think that the New York people would like the things out of the New York Office to go to Washington, D.C." \r\nAnother agent, identified as Nancy Floyd, does not dispute Mr. Salem's account, but rather, appears to agree with it, saying of the `New York people': \r\n"Well, of course not, because they don't want to get their butts chewed." \r\nFrom Trial Transcript tapes made by Salem for the his protection & the FBI. \r\nAs for the portions which clearly indicated that the FBI was involved in a classic entrapment setup and had collaborated with Salem in the implementation of the bombing, they were conveniently not publicized. In a surreptitiously taped conversation involving Salem and Special Agent John Anticev, Salem refers to his contribution in the making of the bomb and the Bureau's awareness and consent of it. An avaricious Salem is seen pressing for more money. The conversation revolves around references to the bombing and the FBI's acquaintance of the bomb making: \r\nAnticev: "But ah basically nothing has changed. I'm just telling you for my own sake that nothing, that this isn't a salary but you got paid regularly for good information. I mean the expenses were a little bit out of the ordinary and it was really questioned. Don't tell Nancy I told you this." \r\nSalem: "Well, I have to tell her of course." \r\nAnticev: "Well then, if you have to, you have to." \r\nSalem: "Yeah, I mean because the lady was being honest and I was being honest and everything was submitted with receipts and now it's questionable." \r\nAnticev: "It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the ordinary." \r\nSalem: "Okay. I don't think it was. If that what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA and we was all informed about it and we know what the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful great case! And then he put his head in the sand I said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a bitch." (Deep breath) Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it." \r\nAnticev: "No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can." \r\nSalem: "Of course, I appreciate that." \r\nFormer Watergate associate prosecutor Richard Ben-Veniste warned that these tapes pose "an absolute nightmare for federal prosecutors." \r\n\r\n","author":"cryer","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 11:55:20","modified":"2007-06-22 11:55:20","fileurl":""},{"id":201281,"heading":""an absolute nightmare for federal prosecutors."","article":"They found a certain Patrick Fitzgerald to prosecute the case with a certain American\/Israeli citizen, Michael Chertoff, and totally ignore or dismiss or deny the information in these tapes.\r\nLike I always say, this is not justice.","author":"so what did they do?","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 12:14:07","modified":"2007-06-22 12:14:07","fileurl":""},{"id":201282,"heading":"Well if that is so......","article":"....then 'Scooter' Libby SHOULD be pardoned and Fitzgerald should be indicted for misprision of a felony and disbarred","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 12:18:24","modified":"2007-06-22 12:18:24","fileurl":""},{"id":201294,"heading":"actually..","article":"Well of course. This nation is run on conflict of interests.\r\nThe honest judiciary is a fractional minority.\r\nBut the entire upper echelons of command and control are compromised and controlled themselves by their benefactors. \r\nIf all the richest 5000 people of the world died tomorrow, there would be a golden age.","author":"good idea","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 14:28:33","modified":"2007-06-22 14:28:33","fileurl":""},{"id":201295,"heading":"actually..","article":"Well of course. This nation is run on conflict of interests.\r\nThe honest judiciary is a fractional minority.\r\nBut the entire upper echelons of command and control are compromised and controlled themselves by their benefactors. \r\nIf all the richest 5000 people of the world died tomorrow, there would be a golden age.","author":"good idea","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 14:28:33","modified":"2007-06-22 14:28:33","fileurl":""},{"id":201296,"heading":"anyway...","article":"So in essence the FBI as in the- cough cough- Justice Dept. with the usual slant towards they showed in the Waco, Ruby Ridge, Pine Ridge and I'm sure, countless other as yet unproven or undiscovered incidences are an arm of the secret government replete with full military hardware when needed.\r\nThey violate the law they are sworn to uphold and they engage in monstrous criminal slaughter.\r\n\r\nSo all I'm saying as I stated in the beginning is\/was \r\n\r\n-Wasn't Patrick Fitzgerald the tool that prosecuted the 1993 WTC bombing and let the FBI off the hook even when it was proven that the FBI financed the 'plot', provided the informant ( instigator ) as well as the explosives? \r\nThe legal system is corrupt, in case anyone wanted to know. This is pure perception management for public entertainment. Not an investigation or parish the thought, justice.-\r\n\r\nAnd I stand unrefuted on all points.","author":"The FBI cooked the 1993 WTC bomb","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 14:43:03","modified":"2007-06-22 14:43:03","fileurl":""},{"id":201297,"heading":"oh, you're correct","article":"about the spelling error on parish. Point for you. Thank you for the lesson in spelling. I will always cherish it.","author":"cryer","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 14:54:48","modified":"2007-06-22 14:54:48","fileurl":""},{"id":201329,"heading":"You're welcome","article":" I also caught you fabricating the assertion that the FBI provided the explosives for the 1993 WTC bombing as well....but thanks for believing that Bill Clinton was behind the whole thing and the coverup as well....yet another reason not to vote for his so called wife next year","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 21:05:52","modified":"2007-06-22 21:05:52","fileurl":""},{"id":201339,"heading":"wow","article":"Can Lord Locksley even read? He must be cognitively challenged.\r\nPerhaps a brain transplant with someone who has a clue would help.\r\nWhat part of \r\n-". It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA -"\r\nand\r\n"-Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. \r\nThe informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said. -"\r\n\r\nWhich means ( for minimal IQ types ) that the FBI 'informant' built a bomb "under supervision" from the FBI with a hot H.E. payload.","author":"jess","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-22 22:28:56","modified":"2007-06-22 22:28:56","fileurl":""},{"id":201372,"heading":"or this","article":"What will convince the Lord is a certified statement from the FBI accepting full criminal responsibility on all the major networks for a week without let up.\r\nOtherwise it's still the 'I don't understand or believe you-- nah nah.." as if suppling the 'informant' who put the bomb together under their direction wasn't enough. The 'Lord' wants really, really, REALLY clear evidence.\r\n","author":"mnch","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-23 08:17:07","modified":"2007-06-23 08:17:07","fileurl":""},{"id":201392,"heading":"conformation","article":"The 'lord' is retarded as he is unable to use a computer or search engine.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.911omissionreport.com\/first_wtc.html\r\n\r\nTapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast\r\nTHE NEW YORK TIMES | Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1 \r\nBy Ralph Blumenthal\r\n\r\nLaw-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.\r\n\r\nThe informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said.","author":"yes, it's true","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-23 14:37:29","modified":"2007-06-23 14:37:29","fileurl":""},{"id":201393,"heading":"Yea,right","article":"That URL does NOT connect to the alleged original NYT article...it is a site run by so called 'truthers' and is NOT evidentiary....show me a URL for the original NYT article....not some doctored crapola by some group with a revisionist agenda","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-23 14:46:01","modified":"2007-06-23 14:46:01","fileurl":""},{"id":201433,"heading":"how special","article":"Hmmm even though it's on hundreds of references, the NYT didn't maintain the page.\r\nI guess it went the way of the Washington Times expose' [29Jun89] of the Bush Sr. Pedophile call boy ring. They don't have that in their archives either.\r\n","author":"my precious","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-24 01:32:04","modified":"2007-06-24 01:32:04","fileurl":""},{"id":201434,"heading":"Of course not....","article":"....for the simple reason that it was never there......just like the fictional example I previously mentioned about the FBI and the WTC plot....pure invention ","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-24 01:51:05","modified":"2007-06-24 01:51:05","fileurl":""},{"id":201436,"heading":"it does prove one thing","article":"It proves that even with multiple references with author, publication and the date, across multiple references on all sides of the political spectrum, when the NYT scrubs an article from its archives, it was never there. Handy!","author":"77777","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-24 02:09:01","modified":"2007-06-24 02:09:01","fileurl":""},{"id":201437,"heading":"Not,really.....","article":"......all it proves is that the one source cited about...some so called 'truther' group.,..is capable of faking a NYT citation....and that URL is the only one that was mentioned for the assertion that 'cryer' made about the FBI....if the NYT article actually had existed we would see more sources for it then simply the one 'truther' site","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-24 02:16:59","modified":"2007-06-24 02:16:59","fileurl":""},{"id":201439,"heading":"well, actually...","article":"That's really fairly funny,\r\nKey in -\r\nTHE NEW YORK TIMES | Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1 \r\nBy Ralph Blumenthal -\r\nhttp:\/\/this-must-stop.com\/newyorktimes.htm\r\nand if you think it's a forgery why don't you drop a line to Mr. B?\r\n\r\nHe would be interested. Or maybe you don't believe in Mr. Blumenthal.\r\nWelcome to Ralph Blumenthal's Web Site\r\nThe website of Ralph Blumenthal award-winning New York Times journalist \r\n","author":"Dick Danger","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-24 02:59:44","modified":"2007-06-24 02:59:44","fileurl":""},{"id":201519,"heading":"Well,actually.....","article":""and if you think it's a forgery why don't you drop a line to Mr. B? '\r\n\r\n ...I did just that since he lives here in Houston......the following is my email to Ralph Blumenthal this morning and his response....read 'em and weep,dude.....\r\n\r\n"Mr Blumenthal:\r\n I'm wondering if you can clear up a matter for me...it \r\n concerns a series of articles you wrote in late October of 1993 about \r\n the WTC bombing and the FBI informant Emad Salem and the possibility \r\n that he was supposed to substitute fake powder for the explosives that \r\n were used in the bomb....it is being asserted by some so called \r\n 'truthers' on various Indymedia sites that the FBI itself provided \r\n the actual explosives for the device and your article of that day is \r\n being cited as 'proof' of this assertion...albeit the links provided\r\n as the 'proof' are to the 'truther' websites and not the original\r\n article you wrote about it....I have contended,contrariwise,that \r\n although the FBI and the informant Salem may have failed to \r\n substitute fake powder for the explosives,that the actual explosives \r\n were provided by the perpetrators themselves and that your original \r\n article does NOT in fact assert they came from the FBI...I would \r\n appreciate any clarification you might be able to give on this \r\n matter....not only in the interest of journalistic accuracy,but also \r\n to make it clear that the FBI was not the source of the actual \r\n explosives...best regards\r\n\r\n .....and his response......\r\n\r\n "Thanks for your inquiry. You are referring to my article of Oct. 28, \r\n1993 but as\r\nyou suggest, it does not say that the FBI provided the explosives. I \r\ndon't have\r\nany independent recollection of anything beyond what appeared in the paper.\r\nBest wishes, Ralph Blumenthal"\r\n\r\n.......if you doubt the authenticity of my email and the response,I invite you to email him yourself and verify our exchange","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-24 23:44:34","modified":"2007-06-24 23:44:34","fileurl":""},{"id":201523,"heading":"Well,actually.....","article":".......there was no underlying crime or 'predicate felony' in this case....Valerie Plame was not covered by the Intelligence Officers Identity act at the time her name came into play......and when it did,it was as a result of it being made public by State Department official Richard Armitage who as admitted it was he and not Dick Cheney.....once more 'Digery' is caught out by the facts","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-25 00:21:21","modified":"2007-06-25 00:21:21","fileurl":""},{"id":201531,"heading":"so much for being a 'fake'","article":"You said it was a 'fabrication'. Just scroll up and refresh your memory, if needed.\r\nWhy are you always wrong?","author":"didn't you say it was a fake?","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-25 01:46:13","modified":"2007-06-25 01:46:13","fileurl":""},{"id":201532,"heading":"What I said was.....","article":"......that the assertion made by 'cryer' that the FBI supplied the explosives was a fabrication.....he said that Blumenthal's column was 'proof' of that.....and clearly it wasn't.....that was the central bone of contention of this entire thread","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-25 02:07:37","modified":"2007-06-25 02:07:37","fileurl":""},{"id":201757,"heading":"slippery eel soft shoe","article":"Ahhh, but you lied again.\r\n".if the NYT article actually had existed we would see more sources for it then simply the one 'truther' site"\r\n\r\nWhy are you always such a liar?\r\nAnd the FBI was the agency that supplied the non- inert explosives as well as the informant. Pegged again. Ha.","author":"cryer","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-26 20:09:27","modified":"2007-06-26 20:09:27","fileurl":""},{"id":201773,"heading":"You pegged yourself......","article":".....by claiming that Blumenthal's article was 'proof' of your assertion that the FBI supplied the explosives....Blumenthal himself says "nay,not so"....ask him yourself if you don't believe me...or you afraid of exploding your own bogus assertion?","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-26 22:47:03","modified":"2007-06-26 22:47:03","fileurl":""},{"id":201785,"heading":"impressive","article":"Let me say a few things before I even read your re.\r\nPatrick Fitzgerald is a prime fink who, with Michael Chertoff, let the FBI off the hook for their criminal conspiracy against the citizens in the WTC in 1993 who were killed or wounded.\r\nThe FBI paid informant\/ringleader was in fact under FBI pay and direction.\r\nThe FBI \u2018called off\u2019 the \u2018dud\u2019 bomb scenario. \r\nThey financed their informer to build a hot load.\r\nThey allowed it to happen.\r\nThen they went into this big dance on how the vehicle was tracked by the PART NUMBER on an axil. When they knew damn well who did it cause it was their own man and his team. Perhaps even a moron would get it by now.\r\n","author":"cryer","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 02:26:29","modified":"2013-11-11 00:48:55","fileurl":""},{"id":201786,"heading":"Well perhaps even a moron....","article":".....would see that you have been falsely claiming that the FBI provided the actual explosives and now it is been made clear that they didn't and that you simply invented that...along with who knows what else.....what you're really saying is that the Clinton White House and his stooge Janet Reno 'let them off the hook' for this....besides, there is nothing in Blumenthal's column to suggest that the FBI or anyone else knew what the actual eventual target was....apparently that wasn't ever determined by Ehad Salem or anyone else prior to the actual WTC bombing....the FBI knew they had an extremist cell building a bomb for some unknown target.....they had to allow it to be constructed with a hot load or there would have been no case....you can't put people like that in prison for making toy bombs.....more to the point, now everyone knows that you simply fabricated your main assertion....that the FBI provided the actual explosives for the bomb and that you falsely cited Blumenthal's column as 'proof' of that","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 02:43:16","modified":"2007-06-27 02:43:16","fileurl":""},{"id":201787,"heading":"make it clear?","article":"One thing is real clear. Number 1 is you or a cadre of helpers live on this board.\r\nYour author only acknowledged his article which you said was a let me see...\r\n"faking a NYT citation"\r\nand that since the director himself, with a convenient photo copy to prove it to you is not available, it shall just be conceded that the bomb was made with full knowledge of the non dud nature of this device, by the FBI.\r\nAnd to say that their informant was not keeping track of the particulars in this incident to provide the intelligence he was being paid to perform to the FBI is moronic.\r\nPoints for the attorney like eel dance though.","author":"ha.","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 02:56:43","modified":"2007-06-27 02:56:43","fileurl":""},{"id":201818,"heading":" Janet Reno and Bill Clinton","article":" Janet Reno and Bill Clinton are both mass murderers and treasonous assholes. No problem with that. I always thought that this was a requirement for higher office anyway. The Egyptian intelligence officer, Ehad Salem was an expert at high explosives as anyone could see by the results. Too bad for the FBI that the dupes were unable to park their package against the base of the core and the blast was dissipated by the air gap.\r\nLove the way you are defending our homeland secret police\/assassination division, though. Are you their attorney? ","author":"Hang em High","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 10:15:37","modified":"2007-06-27 10:15:37","fileurl":""},{"id":201820,"heading":"All I am defending....","article":".....is Ralph Blumenthal...against the scurrilous charge made by 'cryer' that his column on the WTC bombing is 'proof' that the FBI supplied the explosives....this was falsely imputed to him and he was gracious enough to respond to my email inquiry on the subject and to confirm what I had previously stated....that his column does no such thing....the entire idea was pure invention by 'cryer'....and now everyone knows that","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 10:44:28","modified":"2007-06-27 10:44:28","fileurl":""},{"id":201821,"heading":"arguments - $5\/min","article":"Since you're going to continue to state the same thing over and over again, I would suggest to the reader, to scroll up and read any five comments in series. They'll get the picture.\r\n","author":""that's contridiction"-"no it","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 10:52:46","modified":"2007-06-27 10:52:46","fileurl":""},{"id":201841,"heading":"bump o truth","article":"\r\n\r\nU.S. Tackling Blast Probe on Unprecedented Scale \r\nRonald J. Ostrow and Robin Wright \r\nLos Angeles Times, March 3, 1993\r\n"-Even as office workers were trying to pry their way out of stalled elevators or stagger down smoky stairwells in the wake of a devastating explosion last Friday, a special team of men and women were leaving FBI headquarters here for the next flight to New York.-"\r\nFrom the testimony, backed up with recordings made with his FBI handler of Ehad Salem, the FBI informant\/ringleader about his activities pertaining to the 1993 WTC bombing.\r\nIt was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the DA -" \r\nand \r\n"-Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. \r\nThe informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said. -" \r\nAnd just because the author doesn't have enough gusts to state it outright, -""Thanks for your inquiry. You are referring to my article of Oct. 28, \r\n1993 but as \r\nyou suggest, it does not say that the FBI provided the explosives.-" he doesn't have to exactly by skirting the edge of "but the plan [ which was to have used inert powder] was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor" [ which means the supervision gave the go ahead to use real explosives] and then you reply :\r\n"the FBI knew they had an extremist cell building a bomb for some unknown target.....they had to allow it to be constructed with a hot load or there would have been no case"\r\nwhich is a far cry from\r\n"...for the simple reason that it was never there......just like the fictional example I previously mentioned about the FBI and the WTC plot....pure invention"\r\nAnd your defense is they didn't know what was going on?\r\n\r\nBuying this kind of crap is why assholes like Patrick Fitzgerald and Michael Chertoff go on screwing the concept of justice under the defacto selective enforcement clause of this criminal enterprise.","author":"boB","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 16:26:40","modified":"2007-06-27 16:26:40","fileurl":""},{"id":201842,"heading":"The ONLY one...","article":"....who seems to think that the FBI provided the actual explosives is 'cryer'....certainly Ralph Blumenthal didn't...and since he has worked for the NYT for years it is safe to say he is no right wing idealogue...if he had thought or suspected such a thing he would have said so in his NYT series of articles....at least inferentially...and he never once even hinted at it....it is solely a product of cryer's imagination.....as for Fitzgerald and Chertoff,they were both taking their orders on this very high profile case from AG Janet Reno....which means that Bill Clinton told her how to handle the case.....to suggest that Fitzgerald and Chertoff acted independently in this matter is to be utterly ignorant of how the DOJ operates","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 16:32:44","modified":"2007-06-27 16:32:44","fileurl":""},{"id":201855,"heading":"how very dull","article":"what is this crap you are feeding us?\r\n"he has worked for the NYT for years it is safe to say he is no right wing idealogue."\r\nThe NYT has always been a CIA asset since Project Mockingbird. \r\nThe FBI is a product and instrument of the real rulers and as we can see after JFK's assassination which they facilitated and help cover up, your assertion that the asshole in the Presidents office is responsible for their behavior is questionable at best.\r\nJanet is in hell now and Clinton will just have to wait for his turn.\r\nAs will the psychopaths that use the FBI for their own personal political police. \r\nAnd garbage like Patrick Fitzgerald and Michael Chertoff, act as co-conspiritors.\r\n","author":" Billy","parent_id":201170,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-27 19:31:39","modified":"2007-06-27 19:31:39","fileurl":""}]}