{"article":{"id":199892,"heading":"Ron Paul - "Libertarian"","author":"Alex Walker","created":"2007-05-29 14:06:02","modified":"2013-11-11 00:48:39","last_modified":"Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:48:39","article":"

\r\n\r\n\r\nThe Ron Paul that Ron Paul Doesn’t Want You to Know\r\n<\/strong>\r\n\r\n<\/p>\r\n

\r\n\r\nA Personal Note\r\n<\/strong>\r\n<\/p>\r\n

\r\nPersonally, I have always been skeptical about the so-called libertarian crowd. I grew up in the South and lived through the civil rights revolution and these \"libertarians\"\r\nnever lifted a finger in opposition to the gross abuse of power by Southern segregationist city, county, and state governments. \r\n<\/p>\r\n

\r\nIn the 1970s when I was a student at the very \"conservative\" University of Virginia, \"libertarianism\" was the perfect refuge for guys who wanted to enjoy the new sexual and personal freedoms of the Sixties while simultaneously defending authoritarian Southern \"tradition.\" Under the banner of \"libertarianism\" they could be against the Vietnam-era draft and also<\/i> against the 1964 Civil Rights Act. They could claim the \"right\" to smoke pot and happily indulge recreational sex and also<\/i> the \"right\" of the State of Virginia to maintain V.M.I. as a all-male school and otherwise keep \"the ladies \" in their place without \"interference\" from \"Big Gummint\" \r\n<\/p>\r\n

\r\nHere in Southern California today, some old \"libertarians\" are the meanest, nastiest Mexican-haters. \r\n<\/p>\r\n

\r\nRon Paul is of that generation. It's good he's causing Republicans grief, but let’s not get carried away with the media moment. \r\n<\/p>\r\n

\r\nRead More at http:\/\/www.accgreens.org\/gpga\/?q=node\/32\r\n<\/p> \r\n\n","contact":"AlexCathy@aol.com","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"Ron Paul is hot in antiwar circles on account of his\r\nperformance in the Republican presidential candidates debates as the only \r\nantiwar candidate in a field of Bushie super-hawks. Every moderate, liberal, progressive, or left activist and every Democrat, Green, or independent voter should Read This before jumping onto the bandwagon.\r\n","numcomment":7,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2007\/05\/199892.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":199922,"heading":"Dr. Ron Paul","article":"Unfortunately, the reason we don't have an open debate is that in this show, this spectacle we call elections is a process that is corrupted as well as the selection. It provides a mask to the naked command of the political process that gives us only an illusion of choice.\r\nAlex Jones and the cadre of disillusioned audience he has under his thrall are merely tools to provide a glimmer of hope that the people might wrest the boots from upon their backs. These ideologues are only showing a side of the total injustice, like the IRS and the banking interests that form the structure of labor and resource extraction from the underclasses to which they themselves benefit. I call them the propertied class that, at this late juncture, is fearing the heat from a growing autocracy that threatens their moderate holdings as it grows in appetite and power. Until their own holdings were not in danger of appropriations from the even larger sharks in the sea, these individuals were conveniently silent. These people are fervently anti-social in the sense that the idea of shared commons like public school or medical care or any other leveling safety net on their own shared tab, resonates like a heresy of the old boogeyman, communism. \r\nCall in to the Alex Jones show ( the primary reason Dr. Paul is allowed to even enter the 'debates' ) and ask at what limit the state should provide for the public welfare.\r\nHow we should treat the most marginalized sections of our people.\r\nAnd how sacred is the term 'private property'.\r\nDr. Paul is a welcome wedge to open the window of public awareness into the seamy side of our electoral process but represents the interests of the propertied class, not the majority unless one considers the pulling of the rug from the floor boards under which our dismembered and buried liberty lay buried, a hopeful sign of change and a voice of the growing rumble of rage at our butchered and packaged world. ","author":"sd","parent_id":199892,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-30 12:23:18","modified":"2007-05-30 12:23:18","fileurl":""},{"id":199924,"heading":"Yea,well.....","article":".......I'm probably the only person posting here who has had any actual political interaction with Ron Paul by virtue of having been on the ballot together with him in 1974 as GOP nominees for Congress in our respective districts and having had the opportunity to pick each other's brains and determine where our beliefs were coming from......and while he and I both agreed as to the desirability of putting the US Dollar back on the gold standard and repealing the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, I didn't make those my main electoral planks....whereas Ron has become something of a 'botique' Republican by continuing to espouse such issues,while at the same time doing what his constituents sent him to Washington to do...keep Federal agencies out of their hair and off their backs....as opposed to wanting him to pile up earmarks and haul pork by the carload back to the district like most Congressman are wont to do......his positions on Iraq aside, just having him in the mix for 2008 will,to my mind,serve to keep some of the prospective nominees intellectually honest about the limits of Federal power domestically......which helps to draw a clearer distinction between the GOP and the Democrat candidates","author":"Lord Locksley","parent_id":199892,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-30 13:20:42","modified":"2007-05-30 13:20:42","fileurl":""},{"id":199925,"heading":"-on the ballot together-","article":"In that case, we have yet another reason to view Dr. Paul's advocacy in the light of some of his supporters.\r\nWhat differences? There are none.\r\nthe hight of infamy is to produce a conflict about non issues while using this 'conflict' as a cover for business a usual. 'Both' parties are funded by the same powerful interests. They both represent capital exploitation while offering only changes in rhetoric.\r\nThe war against the people rolls on.","author":"differences?","parent_id":199892,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-30 13:40:34","modified":"2007-05-30 13:40:34","fileurl":""},{"id":199934,"heading":"Ron Paul & Al CIAduh attacks","article":"He better start questioning the premiss of the huge al-Ciaduh myth about the former ( or current, if you consider the affiliation with Iranian terrorism by al-ciaduh funded factions... ) and address the source of this terrorism as the rogue intelligence agencies they are. Before they activate another political hit. Once you go public, the chances of a surgical hit turn into a public debacle and huge repercussions if the outrage is sufficient. He, referring to Dr. Paul is to open up right now with the full truth about our political\/social order. About how he has been threatened with more reprisals and not from the voting public.\r\nBucking the Federal Reserve System of private banking cartels is a gutsy thing to do. Presidents have been assassinated for the same endeavor. Their power is great.\r\nHe must open up with the true nature of the system and the treachery the true powers involved have perpetrated upon the people of this nation and the world.\r\nJust to save his life and this nation.","author":"The-Eggmann","parent_id":199892,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-30 18:17:53","modified":"2007-05-30 18:17:53","fileurl":""},{"id":199944,"heading":"Mr. Paul","article":"Ron Paul is the 2008 version of Barry Goldwater.","author":"Buh","parent_id":199892,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-31 01:15:47","modified":"2007-05-31 01:15:47","fileurl":""},{"id":199951,"heading":"Liberty? Feh.","article":""Libertarians" don't care about anyone's liberty but their own.\r\n\r\nThen again, American's love to talk about "spreading democracy," but we're often supporting dictators like the old Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, and Suharto; worse, we support one-party pseudo-Democracies in Japan and Mexico.\r\n\r\nCommunists liked to make society more equal by executing the extremes. Contemporary communists in China are modernizing by allowing their people to become exploited workers.\r\n\r\nFascists built national pride by killing off people who didn't fit in to their idea of the nation.\r\n\r\nTed Haggard is gay.\r\n\r\nWe lost in Vietnam, but nobody has yet admitted it.\r\n\r\nJews used to live in walled ghettos. Now they've turned around and done it to Arabs.\r\n\r\nRon Paul is a fraud.","author":"johnk","parent_id":199892,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-31 06:26:43","modified":"2007-05-31 06:26:43","fileurl":""},{"id":199955,"heading":"dig it","article":"-"Libertarians" don't care about anyone's liberty but their own. -\r\n\r\nWhile I agree about the self concerned principles of Libertarians, in being adverse to contributing for social leveling to provide a just society where opportunities are not subject to privilege, they do realize that they require a base of support. \r\n-Ron Paul is a fraud.-\r\nLook at his voting record. It's not perfect, in my view. Rep. Henery B. Gonzalez 20 dist. Texas, god rest his soul, or Cynthia McKinney were far more honest and fearless. Such is the spectacle of election political showmenship. \r\n\r\nElections are huge operational frauds even inside their narrow parameters of vote selection.\r\nPaper ballets for non corporate candidates. Like Ralph Nader.","author":"gorge","parent_id":199892,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-31 10:39:34","modified":"2007-05-31 10:39:34","fileurl":""}]}