{"article":{"id":166933,"heading":"ALERT:  Minutemen scheduled for 4th of July Parade","author":"FYI","created":"2006-07-03 02:03:10","modified":"2006-07-09 00:10:50","last_modified":"Sun, 09 Jul 2006 07:10:50","article":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p>Mayor Villaraigosa, Councilman Bill Rosendahl, County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, and Assemblywoman Fran Pavley will also be in the parade. <br><br> Please flood their offices with calls asking that they request the parade organizers to dis-invite the participation of the <br>  <br> Minutemen. Or that they not participate in the parade with the presence of the minutemen. <br><br> Antonio Villaraigosa, (213) 978-0600 <br><br> Bill Rosendahl, (310) 575-8461 <br><br> Zev Yaroslavsky (213) 974-3333 <br>  <br> Fran Pavley (310) 395-3414 <br>  <br> <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"The anti-immigrant Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, www.minutemanhq.com, have found their way to Pacific Palisades and will be marching in the 4th of July parade.","numcomment":20,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2006\/07\/166933.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":166972,"heading":"Source, please?","article":"I have been unable to find any sort of confirmation of these claims. The Minutemen Web site makes no mention of participating in a parade, neither does the Mayor's site.\r\n\r\nThe Web site for the Pacific Palisades 4th of July parade ( linked to from the Pacific Palisades Chamber of Commerce site) contains no information about the makeup of the parade. It wouldn't be surprising if Zev Yaroslavksy were in it;  since it's part of his district and he has family there, but again, no confirmation seems to be available.\r\n\r\nBefore we get our knickers in a twist and start hassling the pols with phone calls, how about some evidence that the OP isn't just an exercise in starting rumors for fun and profit?","author":"Skeptic","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-03 18:17:19","modified":"2006-07-03 18:17:19","fileurl":""},{"id":167014,"heading":"Story has been Confirmed - Parade Route","article":"A call to the Palisades Americanism Parade Association has confirmed that the MM are scheduled in the parade.\r\n\r\nParade Route:\r\nAssembly: 11:00 A.M. March on Via De La Paz 2:00 P.M. 4:00 P.M. From Via de la Paz to Bowdoin going North to Sunset Blvd., East on Sunset to Drummond, South on Drummond to Toyopa, West on Toyopa to Alma Real\/Palisades Recreation Area parking lot.\r\n","author":"FYI","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-03 23:05:41","modified":"2006-07-03 23:05:41","fileurl":""},{"id":167044,"heading":"Okay- now I've checked it myself","article":" Now that it's Monday, it's possible to reach relevant sources. I've just spoken with someone at the Pacific Palisades Chamber of Commerce, who confirmed that an application for the parade by the Minutemen had been approved and that they would be marching with a fife and drum corps.\r\n\r\nThe name on the application was &quot;Minutemen Civil Defense Corps&quot;, which corresponds exactly with the anti-immigrant group.\r\n\r\nAccording to the same gentleman, Mayor Villaraigosa's status at the moment is that he won't be there, but that last year they didn't know whether or not the Mayor would be there until the last moment and that in the event he didn't actually ride in the parade- just stopped by for some photographs before heading off to another event.\r\n\r\nI'm calling the offices of the polticians cited in the OP.","author":"Skeptic","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-04 14:01:23","modified":"2006-07-04 14:01:23","fileurl":""},{"id":167047,"heading":"Correction","article":"&quot;The name on the application was &quot;Minutemen Civil Defense Corps&quot;, which corresponds exactly with the anti-immigrant group. &quot;\r\n\r\n\r\nCorrection:  Anti-ILLEGAL Immigrant group\r\n\r\n","author":"Trident-37","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-04 14:36:30","modified":"2006-07-04 14:36:30","fileurl":""},{"id":167052,"heading":"how ironic","article":"Pacific Palisades is a town that is comprised of a predominantly white, upper-middle class. But it is run by workers who do not live in the Palisades, who are predominantly Latin American and likely lack documentation.\r\n\r\nThis ought to be quite a spectacle; White-Supremacists trying to convince wealthy white people that their Nanny's are the reason we don't have healthcare and the reason they can't get a job.","author":"Ch","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-04 15:24:12","modified":"2006-07-04 15:24:12","fileurl":""},{"id":167056,"heading":"Healthcare?","article":"Since when is the government responsible for providing health care to you or anyone else?  ","author":"Trident-37","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-04 16:08:33","modified":"2006-07-04 16:08:33","fileurl":""},{"id":167064,"heading":"dang...","article":"....i guess now i should feel moded","author":"Ch","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-04 17:49:00","modified":"2006-07-04 17:49:00","fileurl":""},{"id":167079,"heading":"Just in case you all didnt know","article":"It is an AMERICAN Fourth of July Parade.\r\nThe Minutemen and Women are Americans.\r\nIllegal aliens are not Americans!\r\nNiether they nor their supporters  belong in any American\r\nPatriotic Parade!\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"My 2 cents","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-04 21:15:18","modified":"2006-07-04 21:15:18","fileurl":""},{"id":167091,"heading":"reply","article":"As an American citizen, I don't mind if supporters of those here against immigration laws march in the parades. There are valid arguments for why they should be given a chance to become citizens. Since this involves the USA itself, let them march in 4th of July parades. &quot;American rights&quot; do not override human rights. Being human is enough to exercise free speech.","author":"Jammer CC","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-04 23:05:25","modified":"2006-07-04 23:05:25","fileurl":""},{"id":167094,"heading":"reply","article":"&quot;Niether they nor their supporters belong in any American\r\nPatriotic Parade! &quot;\r\n\r\nThanks for the update, My 2 cents .  FYI, neither I nor any of the anti-minutemen crowd would participate in a parade like that anyway.  So go Fuck yourself.","author":"Pete Nice","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-04 23:39:06","modified":"2006-07-04 23:39:06","fileurl":""},{"id":167098,"heading":"Humans Unite!","article":"All humans have the right to do what they want even if it is against U.S. laws.  \r\n\r\nNo laws, one world, smash the borders!\r\n\r\nLets all hunt and gather berries in the woods like they did 50,000 years ago!\r\n\r\nCliff May will be our Queen!\r\n\r\n","author":"Kitty","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-05 00:48:52","modified":"2006-07-05 00:48:52","fileurl":""},{"id":167099,"heading":"reply","article":"Well someone here doesn't have an open mind. Would I come here illegally to work for unfairly low wages to keep myself and my family alive? You bet I would. It's a matter of human life. And no I wouldn't cause harm to anyone. A well kept garden or clean restrooms maybe. But not harm. I can't blame people for avoiding death.","author":"Jammer CC","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-05 01:28:15","modified":"2006-07-05 01:28:15","fileurl":""},{"id":167100,"heading":"Death?","article":"They're not dying.  They're not starving.  Don't be such a drama queen.  \r\n\r\nThey're coming here to make more money than they can back home.  They just want a new car and a big screen TV.\r\n\r\n","author":"Kitty","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-05 02:39:28","modified":"2006-07-05 02:39:28","fileurl":""},{"id":167101,"heading":"kitty","article":"Kitty, I get the feeling you don't know what the hell your talking about?  Who do you support in the Mexican presidential election?","author":"tomz","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-05 02:41:16","modified":"2006-07-05 02:41:16","fileurl":""},{"id":167104,"heading":"So many empty Lives...","article":"This is really sad.  I counted about 3 dozen websites that someone had posted &quot;Alert minutemen to be in July 4th parade. No doubt many of these people will be in Lake Forest or Pacific Palisades tommorrow, spending their holiday jeering at people they happen disagree with.\r\n\r\nI'm going to go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of those jeering crowds wouldn't be caught dead anywhere near a community July fourth celebration if  SOS didn't decide to be there. Call it a hunch.\r\n\r\nAnd already you are trying to shut down SOS's freedom of expression by getting them kicked out of the parade. If they do get to march, the braver of you will be out there Tuesday shouting obsenities and doing your best to expouse yourselves as the little punk-ass bitches and wannnabe thugs you are, lacking the courage to kick an old man off his walker unless you outnumber him  by at least fifty to one and first cover your face with a bandana. Like Frederic\/ Nice say  only my opinion and my opinion only. But I have lots of evidence.\r\n\r\nSo tommorrow when the family comes by to bar-b-que and play in the pool. I will maybe call old Marine buddies and  hopefully get a call from  my son who is doing convoy escorts in Iraq.  I'll have a few beers, laugh with my neighbors and friends.  I'll while away the day and no doubt around 10 I'll switch on the TV and with any luck hear about how you made asses of yourself. trying to stop some middle aged men from walking down a street in a parade.\r\n\r\n","author":"Gunny","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-05 03:31:13","modified":"2006-07-05 03:31:13","fileurl":""},{"id":167155,"heading":"hypocrisy","article":"I find it utterly hypocritical for European descendants of immigrants whose ancestors committed heinous crimes of genocide against indigenous peoples of this land in order to steal possession of the land to now turn around and claim to take the moral high ground by presecuting those trying to survive. It is also arrogant to deny that the high living standard enjoyed by so many European invaders is due to the labor of immigrants and the working class. If our country's foreign policy addressed equitabale economic systems internationally, I dare say fewer people would take the risks involved with leaving their homelands. Instead, our corporations, aided by our government,  choose to maximize profits abroad, at the expense of peoples' lives, driving them to desperation. Here in the U.S., our artificially constructed laws are designed to perpetuate the system of exploitation and repression.  The rising lack of compassion reflected in our society is a disturbing sign of growing fascism.  ","author":"Fern","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-05 17:28:34","modified":"2006-07-05 17:28:34","fileurl":""},{"id":167207,"heading":"Sure you can!","article":">I can't blame people for avoiding death.\r\n\r\nSure  you can: &quot;You've worked to avoid death, and in the process, broke the law.  Everything bad is your fault, because, according to my logic, anyone who breaks a law is the prime cause of the ills of society.&quot;","author":"johnk","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-06 05:48:49","modified":"2006-07-06 05:48:49","fileurl":""},{"id":167488,"heading":"Parade Videos","article":"Watchdog has videos of the parade.  ","author":"Marco Pollo","parent_id":166933,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-07-09 00:10:50","modified":"2006-07-09 00:10:50","fileurl":""}]}