\tThe prevailing \"wisdom\" of our corporate media is that impeachment of President Bush is a left-wing fantasy. As a result, there is virtually no coverage in the media of either the majority sentiment for removing Bush from office or even of the key issues that make this president a poster child for impeachment.\r\n
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\tTake the several polls by Zogby International on the impeachment issue. Last June, Zogby polled Americans across the country and found that some 42 percent favored impeaching the president if it were found that he had lied about the threat posed by Iraq in order to justify an invasion. That is a higher percentage of people in favor of impeachment than there ever was for the impeachment of former president Bill Clinton during his entire impeachment ordeal. Yet the poll was not mentioned by any major media news organization. \r\n
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\tIn November, Zogby repeated the poll. This time, 53 percent of respondents from all over the nation said they thought the president should be impeached and removed from office if he lied about the war. That poll to was totally blacked out.\r\n
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A third poll early this year found 52 percent of Americans saying Bush should be removed from office if he broke the law and had the National Security Agency spy on American citizens without court warrants. Well, of course he did do that—the president has admitted he did so and says he will continue to do it--so the latest poll was really saying that 52 percent of Americans think he should be sent packing.\r\n
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\tThat poll too was largely ignored by the major corporate media.\r\n
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\tLeft-wing fantasy? Are we saying that the majority of Americans are left-wingers?\r\n
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\tI don't think so.\r\n
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But the media are not the only ones who are trying to dismiss popular sentiment for impeachment.\r\n
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\tThe leadership of the Democratic Party is doing the same thing.\r\n
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\tWhile researching our book on impeachment (The Case for Impeachment: The Legal Argument for Removing President George W. Bush from Office, St. Martin’s Press, due out in late April), my co-author Barbara Olshanshky and I have found that members of Congress—even firebrands like Maxine Waters (D-CA) and Cynthia McKinney (D-GA)—have been strong-armed behind the scenes by the Democratic National Committee not to introduce an impeachment bill in the House. Rep. John Conyers, the ranking minority member of the House Judiciary Committee, where such a bill would be considered, has submitted three bills that relate to impeachment—a proposal for a special committee to investigate possible impeachable crimes by the administration and bills to censure both the president and the vice president for refusing to answer questions from Congress on impeachment-related issues--but that's as far as the Democratic congressional leadership is willing to go.\r\n
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\tAs the Wall Streeet Journal<\/i> reported in a March 6 article on the impeachment issue, Democratic Party leaders fear that party support for impeachment could lead to a backlash as happened to Republicans who supported Clinton’s impeachment.\r\n
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\tThis is of course nonsense. The effort to impeach Clinton over his sexual escapades was always viewed by the majority of Americans, Democratic and Republican alike, as a farce and an embarrassment. As the Wall Street Journal<\/i> notes, support for Clinton’s impeachment never rose much above a quarter of the electorate--the hard right element of the Republican Party. \r\n
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\tThe issues that are driving popular sentiment for Bush's impeachment are much more serious:\r\n
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* The conspiracy of lies that got the country into a war in Iraq that has already cost some $400 billion and that ultimately may end up costing over $2 trillion, and that has cost the lives of 2300 Americans and over 100,000 Iraqis.\r\n
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* Obstruction of investigations into what the administration knew about the 9-11 attacks before they happened, and why nothing was done to prevent them.\r\n
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* Undermining of basic Constitutional freedoms, from First Amendment guarantees of freedom of speech, assembly, press and religion to Fourth Amendment guarantees against unreasonable search and seizure and Sixth Amendment rights to a fair trial, to the even more basic rights of citizenship.\r\n
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* Abuses of power, including the blatant violation of the law in the case of the president's violation of the Foreign Surveillance Intelligence Act, the use of over 500 \"signing statements\" to simply ignore laws passed by Congress, and the ignoring of court orders, as well as the use of government power to attack individuals, as in the case of the outing of underecover CIA agent Valerie Plame in order to publish her whistle-blowing husband, ambassador Joe Wilson.\r\n
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* Trampling of international law through the authorization of policies of torture of captives and the rounding up and deporting of law-abiding residents based solely upon their ethnicity and religion, all of which have made America a pariah in the international community and needlessly inflamed hatred of America across the Muslim world.\r\n
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* A criminally negligent attitude towards governing that has brought us the disaster and needless death of hundreds of people in New Orleans, the fiasco of the Medicare drug \"program\" for seniors, and the chaos of post-war Iraq.\r\n
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* A criminal know-nothing obstructionism with regard to the urgent crisis of global warming, which even the Pentagon has concluded threatens the national security of the United States far more than any rag-tag band of terrorists.\r\n
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* A culture of corruption in Washington that makes earlier epic scandals like Teapot Dome look penny-ante, with over 60 Republican members of Congress (that’s better than one in four!) linked to just one bribing lobbyist and with war-profiteering by Republican-linked corporations running rampant.\r\n
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These are all issues that cry out for action, and for saturation coverage in the nation’s media. \r\n
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The polls showing majority support for impeachment make it clear that the public knows all this intuitively, even though people have to get their information from personal observation, from the Internet, or by reading between the lines, because the media are more focused on the Oscars and the latest dramatic murder or kidnapping, and even though the supposed opposition party, for the most part, is afraid of its own shadow.\r\n
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The prevailing wisdom is that all such talk about impeachment is fantasy, and yet out in the country, some candidates are finding that calling for impeachment brings down the house. \r\n
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If those candidacies—and others that are being supported by groups like ImpeachPAC catch fire and start winning Democratic primaries in late spring, and if those candidates go on to win seats in Congress in November, I am predicting that their spineless colleagues will realize that the public wants action on all these issues, not just business as usual.\r\n
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With the American public so on edge about so many issues, it might, in the end, not take that many radical upsets in November to create a whole new mood in Congress.\r\n
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For other stories by Lindorff, please go (at no charge) to This Can't Be Happening! .\r\n
\r\n<\/p>\n","contact":"dlindorff@yahoo.com","link":"http:\/\/www.thiscantbehappening.net","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"A majority of Americans\u2014a majority!\u2014say they think President Bush should be impeached on at least two grounds, lying about Iraq\u2019s alleged WMD threat and alleged links to Al Qaeda to justify an invasion, and NSA spying on Americans without getting a court warrant, but the media and Democratic Party leaders don\u2019t want to admit it.","numcomment":12,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2006\/03\/149494.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":149497,"heading":"talk about impeachment...","article":"\r\nReauthorization of Patriot Act Vote Record.\r\n\r\nWhy don't we talk about impeachment and criminal treason against the People of America ?\r\nLong sentences seizure of ALL assets and new open elections held for new members.\r\nThe ones that *didn't* betray the Bill of Rights and therefore the contract between the People and its government... \r\nHere's the list of traitors vs. patriots*\r\n\r\nNot Voting\t1\r\n\tBy Home State\r\n\r\nAlphabetical by Senator Name\r\nAkaka (D-HI), Nay* \r\nAlexander (R-TN), Yea \r\nAllard (R-CO), Yea \r\nAllen (R-VA), Yea \r\nBaucus (D-MT), Nay* \r\nBayh (D-IN), Nay*\r\nBennett (R-UT), Yea \r\nBiden (D-DE), Nay* \r\nBingaman (D-NM), Nay* \r\nBond (R-MO), Yea \r\nBoxer (D-CA), Nay* \r\nBrownback (R-KS), Yea \r\nBunning (R-KY), Yea \r\nBurns (R-MT), Yea \r\nBurr (R-NC), Yea\r\nByrd (D-WV), Nay* \r\nCantwell (D-WA), Nay* \r\nCarper (D-DE), Nay* \r\nChafee (R-RI), Yea \r\nChambliss (R-GA), Yea \r\nClinton (D-NY), Nay* \r\nCoburn (R-OK), Yea \r\nCochran (R-MS), Yea \r\nColeman (R-MN), Yea \r\nCollins (R-ME), Yea \r\nConrad (D-ND), Nay* \r\nCornyn (R-TX), Yea \r\nCorzine (D-NJ), Nay* \r\nCraig (R-ID), Nay* \r\nCrapo (R-ID), Yea \r\nDayton (D-MN), Nay* \r\nDeMint (R-SC), Yea \r\nDeWine (R-OH), Yea \r\nDodd (D-CT), Not Voting {Bastard-Coward unless under life support in IC} \r\nDole (R-NC), Yea \r\nDomenici (R-NM), Yea \r\nDorgan (D-ND), Nay* \r\nDurbin (D-IL), Nay* \r\nEnsign (R-NV), Yea \r\nEnzi (R-WY), Yea \r\nFeingold (D-WI), Nay* \r\nFeinstein (D-CA), Nay* \r\nFrist (R-TN), Nay*\r\nGraham (R-SC), Yea \r\nGrassley (R-IA), Yea \r\nGregg (R-NH), Yea \r\nHagel (R-NE), Nay* \r\nHarkin (D-IA), Nay *\r\nHatch (R-UT), Yea \r\nHutchison (R-TX), Yea \r\nInhofe (R-OK), Yea \r\nInouye (D-HI), Nay* \r\nIsakson (R-GA), Yea \r\nJeffords (I-VT), Nay* \r\nJohnson (D-SD), Yea \r\nKennedy (D-MA), Nay* \r\nKerry (D-MA), Nay* \r\nKohl (D-WI), Nay*\r\nKyl (R-AZ), Yea \r\nLandrieu (D-LA), Nay *\r\nLautenberg (D-NJ), Nay* \r\nLeahy (D-VT), Nay* \r\nLevin (D-MI), Nay *\r\nLieberman (D-CT), Nay *\r\nLincoln (D-AR), Nay *\r\nLott (R-MS), Yea\r\nLugar (R-IN), Yea \r\nMartinez (R-FL), Yea \r\nMcCain (R-AZ), Yea \r\nMcConnell (R-KY), Yea \r\nMikulski (D-MD), Nay *\r\nMurkowski (R-AK), Nay *\r\nMurray (D-WA), Nay *\r\nNelson (D-FL), Nay *\r\nNelson (D-NE), Yea \r\nObama (D-IL), Nay *\r\nPryor (D-AR), Nay *\r\nReed (D-RI), Nay *\r\nReid (D-NV), Nay *\r\nRoberts (R-KS), Yea \r\nRockefeller (D-WV), Nay* \r\nSalazar (D-CO), Nay *\r\nSantorum (R-PA), Yea \r\nSarbanes (D-MD), Nay *\r\nSchumer (D-NY), Nay *\r\nSessions (R-AL), Yea \r\nShelby (R-AL), Yea \r\nSmith (R-OR), Yea \r\nSnowe (R-ME), Yea \r\nSpecter (R-PA), Yea \r\nStabenow (D-MI), Nay* \r\nStevens (R-AK), Yea \r\nSununu (R-NH), Nay *\r\nTalent (R-MO), Yea \r\nThomas (R-WY), Yea \r\nThune (R-SD), Yea \r\nVitter (R-LA), Yea \r\nVoinovich (R-OH), Yea \r\nWarner (R-VA), Yea \r\nWyden (D-OR), Nay *\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-08 17:04:09","modified":"2006-03-08 17:04:09","fileurl":""},{"id":149499,"heading":"gad","article":"I actually implied that there was a shred of good in the Dems.\r\nIn this one case. I said it.\r\nI must now throw up.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-08 17:13:33","modified":"2006-03-08 17:13:33","fileurl":""},{"id":149500,"heading":"And","article":"Take a long hot shower with lye soap.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-08 17:16:38","modified":"2006-03-08 17:16:38","fileurl":""},{"id":149505,"heading":"Russian exports of nuclear and missile technology to Iran","article":"Ukraine admits selling strategic nuclear missiles to China and Iran \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/english.pravda.ru\/world\/ussr\/22-03-2005\/7927-0\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nNEWS BRIEF: "RUSSIAN GENERAL CONFIRMS IRAN HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS! \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cuttingedge.org\/news\/n1660.cfm\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nNorth Korea Lending Iran a Hand to Develop Nuclear Missiles\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/International\/story?id=1334218\r\n\r\n\r\nRussia warns US against striking Iran\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nIran Is Building Nukes in Underground Locations \r\n\r\nRussia provided critical assistance in the development of Iran's Shihab missile, which has an ever expanding delivery range and can carry a warhead designed for a nuclear charge.\r\n\r\nmore than 1,000 Russian technicians are now installing "peripheral" equipment. He said that 750 Iranian technicians who were trained in Russia \r\nIran received its first shipment of 90 tons of enriched uranium from Russia\r\n\r\n\r\nthe reactor can produce a quarter ton of plutonium per year, which is enough for at least 30 atomic bombs \r\n\r\n"Iranians are conducting a massive cover-up about the reactor."\r\n\r\nRussia, under Putin, has encouraged Iran to tough it out with the International Atomic Energy Agency.\r\n\r\nIran-EU nuclear talks fail\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.aljazeera.com\/me.asp?service_ID=10743\r\n\r\nIran, Russia reach atomic agreement \r\n\r\n\r\nThe agreement to sell 18 nukes to China and Iran was fraudulently arranged by official Ukrainian departments\r\n\r\nThe above-mentioned deal resulted in what Washington was afraid of most: China and Iran got hold of the up-to-date strategic weapon. The Russian strategic bomber plane Tu-160 is armed with X-55 missiles. The range ability of the missile is about 3,000 kilometers. It is capable of flying at low altitudes, which makes it hard to be intercepted. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nIsrael prepares for feared nuclear attack by Iran\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.statesman.com\/news\/content\/news\/stories\/world\/12\/17strikingiran.html\r\n\r\n\r\nThe China factor in Iran \r\n\r\nChina, in its increasingly urgent search for secure long-term energy supplies, especially oil and gas, has developed major economic ties with Iran. \r\n\r\nChina Backs Russian Plan\r\n\r\nChina's arms trade with Iran has been more comprehensive and sustained than that with any other country. \r\n\r\nChina has sold thousands of tanks, armored personnel vehicles and artillery pieces, several hundred surface-to-air, air-to-air, cruise and ballistic missiles as well as thousands of antitank missiles, more than 100 fighter aircraft and dozens of small warships. \r\n\r\nIn addition, it is widely believed that China has assisted Iran in the development of its ballistic and cruise missile production capability. In addition, China has supplied Iran scientific expertise, technical cooperation, technology transfers, production technologies, blueprints and dual-use transfers. \r\n\r\nIn sum, Iran is more than a strategic partner for China. In the wake of the US unilateral decision to go to war against Iraq, reports from Chinese media indicated that the leadership in Beijing privately realized its own long-term energy security was fundamentally at risk under the aggressive new preemptive war strategy of Washington. China began taking major steps to outflank or negate total US domination of the world's major oil and gas resources. Iran has become a central part of that strategy. \r\n\r\n\r\nIraq and the deepening US disaster there has severely constrained possible US options in Iran. In 2003, in the wake of the Iraqi "victory", leading Washington neo-conservative hawks were vocally calling on Bush to move on to Tehran after Saddam Hussein. Now, because of the "bloody quagmire" in Iraq, the US is severely constrained from moving unilaterally. With 140,000 troops tied down in Iraq, the US military physically cannot support another invasion and occupation in yet another country, let alone Iran. \r\n\r\nBecause of Iran's size, a ground invasion may require twice as many troops as in Iraq, says Richard Russell, a Middle East specialist at the National Defense University in Washington. While an air campaign could take out Iran's air defenses, it could also trigger terrorism and oil disruptions. Washington is internally split over the issue of a successful nuclear strike against Iran.\r\n\r\nIran is a vast, strategically central expanse of land, more than double the land area of France and Germany combined, with well over 70 million people and one of the fastest population growth rates in the world. It is well prepared for a new Holy War. Its mountainous terrain makes any thought of a US ground occupation inconceivable at a time the Pentagon is having problems retaining its present force to maintain the Iraq and Afghanistan occupations\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-08 18:27:42","modified":"2006-03-08 18:27:42","fileurl":""},{"id":149515,"heading":"standby","article":"You posted this quote from a STRATFOR document.\r\nupon which the other few 'news agencies' carried.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cuttingedge.org\/na\/na260.htm\r\nweak\r\n:>)\r\nthen the other links:\r\n****\r\n[from an Israeli News Outlet with all the attendant apologies for Zionist aggression under the figleaf of defense speaking from Hex's obvious \r\nagenda...]\r\nhttp:\/\/www.statesman.com\/news\/content\/news\/stories\/world\/12\/17strikingiran.html\r\n-It has acquired dozens of warplanes with long-range fuel tanks to allow them to reach Iran and signed a deal with Germany for two submarines reportedly capable of firing nuclear missiles.-\r\n*****\r\n\r\nLet's see, what else?\r\nthis link:\r\nhttp:\/\/www.aljazeera.com\/me.asp?service_ID=10743\r\n\r\nAnd this quote from which you peg upon this link\r\nHex C &Ps ( scroll up to suit yourself) the following:\r\n\r\n"Iran, Russia reach atomic agreement \r\n\r\nThe agreement to sell 18 nukes to China and Iran was fraudulently arranged by official Ukrainian departments \r\n\r\nThe above-mentioned deal resulted in what Washington was afraid of most: China and Iran got hold of the up-to-date strategic weapon. The Russian strategic bomber plane Tu-160 is armed with X-55 missiles. The range ability of the missile is about 3,000 kilometers. It is capable of flying at low altitudes, which makes it hard to be intercepted."\r\n*****\r\nagain, this same link w\/ actual published by aljazeera.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.aljazeera.com\/me.asp?service_ID=10743\r\n\r\n"ran-EU nuclear talks fail\r\n3\/3\/2006 11:00:00 PM GMT\r\n\r\nGerman Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier \r\n\r\nLast-minute ministerial talks between Iran and the European Union to avoid UN actions over Tehran's nuclear program ended Friday without agreement, BBC reported.\r\n\r\nThe talks in Vienna were requested by Iran before International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) holds a key meeting, due on March 6, that could recommend the imposition of UN sanctions on Tehran.\r\n\r\nCorrespondents say the talks failed because Iran refuses to give up its right to enrich uranium as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, while the EU insists that Tehran stop this process.\r\n\r\nEnriched uranium can be used to generate fuel for civilian reactors or atomic bombs, depending on the level of enrichment.\r\n\r\nForeign Ministers from the UK, France and Germany said they will listen to Iran but won\u2019t present any new proposals.\r\n\r\nEalier this week, a letter from the EU to Iran\u2019s chief nuclear negotiator, Ali Larijani, warned Tehran that any progress would depend on Iran stopping uranium enrichment and cooperating with UN inspectors. \r\n\r\nAfter the two-hour meeting, German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said today's talks "were carried out in a constructive atmosphere but finally we were unable to reach agreement."\r\n\r\n"The IAEA board deliberations on Iran's nuclear program will happen next week and they will be of great significance -- either we'll achieve a deal enabling renewed negotiations or the matter will be referred to the Security Council," he added.\r\n\r\nNo more talks were scheduled, but John Sawers, the British Foreign Office's political director, said the EU3 were willing to meet Iranian officials again at short notice if they had something new to say.\r\n\r\nRussian proposal\r\n\r\n\r\nLarijani was heading for Vienna from Moscow after talks there that didn\u2019t result in an agreement on a Russian proposal to enrich uranium for Iran on Russian soil, a move designed to ally Western fears over Tehran\u2019s nuclear program.\r\n\r\nOn Thursday, Larijani accused Washington of scuttling Moscow talks. \u201cAmerica is lying, trying to destroy the Russian proposal," Larijani said at a press conference in Moscow. "The Americans' insistence on handing over the Iranian nuclear dossier to the UN Security Council means the destruction of the Russian proposal."\r\n\r\nThe IAEA referred Iran to the UN Security Council last month, but left a month to allow time for more diplomacy before any action by the UN.\r\n\r\nIAEA chief Mohammad El-Baradei said Thursday that Iran must take steps to restore confidence about its nuclear plans and that the West must give incentives if Friday's talks are to succeed.\r\n\r\nMeanwhile, Iran\u2019s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accused the IAEA and other international organizations of being politically motivated in their actions.\r\n\r\n"Regrettably most international organizations have turned into political organizations and the influence of great powers prevents them from taking fair and legally sound decisions," he said Friday on a visit to Malaysia.-\r\n\r\n[ So tell me Whizz,,, why did you attribute your 1 quoted text and 2 your 'nuklure' package to this link?\r\n*****\r\nSo this statement that you inserted into the referenced link was a comment by an anonymous author like yourself. And a deliberate attempt to insert unreferenced propaganda as being from aljazeera.\r\nLet's see, anything else?\r\n\r\nNah That's enough for now.\r\n\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2006-03-08 19:18:05","modified":"2013-11-11 00:38:38","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2006\/03\/would-you-trust-this-guy_.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2006\/03\/would-you-trust-this-guy_.jpg"}},{"id":149516,"heading":"tragic blindness and denial does not news make","article":"a scattering of concuring sources - the main point is that RUSSIA HERSELF ADMITS IT\r\n\r\nfunny how you left that one out - especially since it's the FIRST ONE I POSTED\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/english.pravda.ru\/world\/ussr\/22-03-2005\/7927-0\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2006-03-08 19:55:39","modified":"2006-03-08 19:55:39","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2006\/03\/pravda.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2006\/03\/pravda.jpg"}},{"id":149529,"heading":"and here is your 'source'","article":"The [*]US embassy in Kiev[*], however, set out its concerns about the situation. The above-mentioned deal resulted in what Washington was afraid of most: China and Iran got hold of the up-to-date strategic weapon. The Russian strategic bomber plane Tu-160 is armed with X-55 missiles.-\r\n\r\n yet, nowhere else, in the entire article, any EVIDENCE or DOCUMENTATION or Quotes from a 'Known' source that \r\nahem...\r\nIran or Syria *** have**** *****any***** ****** nuclear***** weapons.\r\nNice try Whizz.\r\nMaybe the source of the above 'information' is STRATFOR . Who would know? What's the matter,the IAEC didn't support your 'gotta' fry Syria and Iran' for Israel, 'cause they *making* a bomb scariokie?\r\nSome scrap missiles and stuff but no mention of what would be notable..\r\n.\r\n\r\nRead the piece again. ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-08 21:27:26","modified":"2006-03-08 21:27:26","fileurl":""},{"id":149531,"heading":"from the same piece","article":"- All the missiles, which had been sold to China and Iran, were expired, the lawyer believes. In addition, Bogdan Ferenz is certain that the missiles had been stored under terrible conditions, which turned them into scrap metal.-\r\n\r\nNow does that sound like a nuclear transfer or scrap metal sales?","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-08 21:41:57","modified":"2006-03-08 21:41:57","fileurl":""},{"id":149533,"heading":"now to join the pieces","article":"You see a nuclear event on the continental or off shore US interests can be inferred to have come from Iran or Syria, letting GW to escape impeachment.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-08 21:57:55","modified":"2006-03-08 21:57:55","fileurl":""},{"id":149534,"heading":"who do you believe - all these sources or "Ferrous Cranus"","article":"Ukraine admits selling strategic nuclear missiles to China and Iran \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/english.pravda.ru\/world\/ussr\/22-03-2005\/7927-0\r\n\r\n\r\nRussia Ready to Vaporize the Jewish State And then kick America ... \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/vialls.com\/myahudi\/sunburn.html \r\n\r\nThe Sunburn - Iran's Awesome Nuclear Anti-Ship Missile The Weapon That Could Defeat The US In The Gulf \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.rense.com\/general59\/theSunburniransawesome.htm \r\n\r\n\r\nIran: A Bridge too Far? by Mark Gaffney. 10\/26\/04 "ICH" -- Last July, ... The Sunburn can deliver a 200-kiloton nuclear payload, or: a 750-pound \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.informationclearinghouse.info\/article7147.htm \r\n\r\n\r\nHAS RUSSIAN AND CHINESE MISSILE TECHNOLOGY DOOMED THE US NAVY IN ...\r\n\r\n"The Sunburn missile has been sold to China. The SS-N-22s are part of a recent ... The Sunburn anti-ship missile is perhaps the most lethal anti-ship ... \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cuttingedge.org\/news\/n1449.cfm \r\n\r\n\r\nIn point of fact, a battery of Sunburn missiles can easily sink the largest ... And, in 1987, during the Iran-Iraq war, the USS Stark was nearly cut in half ... \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.thetruthseeker.co.uk\/article.asp?id=2439 \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nNEWS BRIEF: "RUSSIAN GENERAL CONFIRMS IRAN HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS! \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cuttingedge.org\/news\/n1660.cfm \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nNorth Korea Lending Iran a Hand to Develop Nuclear Missiles \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/International\/story?id=1334218 \r\n\r\n\r\nRussia warns US against striking Iran \r\n\r\nFerrous Cranus is utterly impervious to reason, persuasion and new ideas, and when engaged in battle he will not yield an inch in his position regardless of its hopelessness. Though his thrusts are decisively repulsed, his arguments crushed in every detail and his defenses demolished beyond repair he will remount the same attack again and again with only the slightest variation in tactics. Sometimes out of pure frustration Philosopher will try to explain to him the failed logistics of his situation, or Therapist will attempt to penetrate the psychological origins of his obduracy, but, ever unfathomable, Ferrous Cranus cannot be moved.\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2006-03-08 21:58:55","modified":"2006-03-08 21:58:55","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2006\/03\/ferrouscranus.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2006\/03\/ferrouscranus.jpg"}},{"id":149535,"heading":"be afraid....","article":"...\r\nvery afraid\r\nAll those links are pretty good ( as I addressed them previously )\r\nbut did the reader ever view this link?\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2006\/02\/148667_comment.php#148722\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":149494,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-08 22:04:07","modified":"2006-03-08 22:04:07","fileurl":""},{"id":149559,"heading":"one more thing","article":"That in order to prevent impeachment and further the push into war...\r\nIran and Syria the nuclear myth.\r\nIt's interesting that this link:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cuttingedge.org\/na\/na260.htm\r\n\r\n-RUSSIAN GENERAL CONFIRMS IRAN HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS!\r\nby STRATFOR Intelligence\r\nWeek of June 4, 2002\r\n\r\nNotice the date stamp. 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