Hidden Status ? Delete?
There has been an issue with me for some time and I have crystalized a few concerns regarding IMC security.
What event sequence initiates -hidden status\/ delete- ?
In my opinion, some threads get hidden for unreasonable well, reasons.
Yes, I know we are whipping the IMC LA staff, free of charge, to be perfect and godlike in their selection process to suit all of our [ personal or corporate] needs; from the good bad and ugly readers and participants.
But
They have this :
Principles of Unity\t
1.\tWe strive to provide an information infrastructure for people and opinions who do not have access to the airwaves, tools and resources of corporate media. This includes audio, video, photography, internet distribution and any other communication medium.
2.\tWe support local, regional and global struggles against exploitation and oppression.
3.\tWe function as a non-commercial, non-corporate, anti-capitalist collective.
So that really means at least to me, is that all are encouraged, among other things, to participate in providing sourced or be prepared to provide sourced information relevant in deconstructing the lies that promote the exploitation and oppression that the ‘corporate and capitalist’ meddling which I believe is common criminality, brings into our lives. So now back to procedure.
Earlier johnk mentioned my suggestion about tagging the hidden status with the violation. Maybe the guidelines should be reviewed also.
That could help the QC by providing feedback.
It could also help flag errors.
Thank you.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"What process are the overworked people at LA IMC using to hide and delete stuff?","numcomment":24,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2006\/02\/148353.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":149280,"heading":"And, johnk...","article":"What's with the\r\n\r\nmuckOmeter?\r\n:>)\r\nAnd how do I get on\/off of it?","author":"Nice but...?","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 01:43:51","modified":"2006-03-07 01:43:51","fileurl":""},{"id":149282,"heading":"it's easy to see","article":"it simply counts all the js button presses for each thread - the beginning of a new database is at hand\r\n\r\nand no sheepdog - they're not going for your chemtrail pictures no matter how much you whine about it\r\n\r\nthe stunts you've been pulling like bald face lying, refusing to read links then blaming it on the messenger while never providing any of your own, and spamming the flake crap as other handles all the while lying about your website\r\n\r\nprove yourself\r\n\r\npost something real\r\n\r\nyour picture, pictures of your house\/yard\r\n\r\nactual contact info\r\n\r\nshow us you're not totally paranoid for NO REASON\r\n\r\nyou're little better than fresca..\r\n\r\nyou shouldn't even have started this thread - it's about nothing newsworthy - just your affliction again\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 02:10:18","modified":"2006-03-07 02:10:18","fileurl":""},{"id":149286,"heading":"actually, Whizz, my good ol Butt Buddy...","article":"I'm so popular.\r\n"your picture, pictures of your house\/yard "\r\nIf you keep asking me I'm gonna start believing love once again may bloom in the world.\r\nNot for you, of course. \r\nBut, \r\nChrist, Mr. Whizzard I have posted nearly everything, all my particulars. in this thread\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2003\/04\/49088.php\r\nDon't make me get them out again.\r\nwhat the hell you want anyway... a date?\r\n:>\/\r\nOh and thank you again,Thank you,Ms. Shephard\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I wasn't typing to *you*.\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"S'not Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 02:51:05","modified":"2006-03-07 02:51:05","fileurl":""},{"id":149288,"heading":"true to your affliction","article":"a bunch of pictures of dogs\r\n\r\nand we're supposed to accept that\r\n\r\nbecause it seems acceptable to you\r\n\r\nand the lies ;\r\n\r\n> I viewed your 'sources' and still haven't seen any reference to NUCLEAR \r\n\r\n"Russia deployed its most advanced tactical NUCLEAR missiles and crews to both Syria and Iran" \r\n\r\n\r\nexplain this to the gentle virgin readers\r\n\r\ndon't tell me - you didn't post it !\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 02:56:32","modified":"2006-03-07 02:56:32","fileurl":""},{"id":149290,"heading":"gentle virgin reader","article":"Please accept my most sincere apologies for this miserable one known as Hex.\r\n\r\n1 It didn't happen 'cause of me. I never touched his mother.\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2006\/02\/148667_comment.php#148722\r\n\r\n","author":"S'not Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 03:05:36","modified":"2006-03-07 03:05:36","fileurl":""},{"id":149291,"heading":"oh, and to not be wary...","article":"... of the dreaded muckOmeter ( I guess this might be a test case for me anyway before getting hidden ) \r\nBut here, this one's for you, Whizz, I made a mistake by falsely stating that I posted this thread.\r\nI feel great shame\r\n\r\n:>(","author":"S'not Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 03:10:23","modified":"2006-03-07 03:10:23","fileurl":""},{"id":149292,"heading":"Oh and I made another mistake","article":"I meant *that* thread, when I typed 'this' thread.\r\nWell, that takes care of that.","author":"S'not Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 03:12:28","modified":"2006-03-07 03:12:28","fileurl":""},{"id":149302,"heading":"Outrageous","article":"Outrageous, unbelievable and more. \r\nHow could anyone have said something like that.\r\n.\r\n'just a bunch of *dogs* \r\n\r\nHey, $@##^!!!, those are the greatest dogs in the world.\r\nSheepdogs.","author":"unbelievable","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 04:31:52","modified":"2006-03-07 04:31:52","fileurl":""},{"id":149365,"heading":"here you go snotty","article":"
I was surfing around and these came up - you wanted more current data on the Iran nuke question, so since I was speed reading them anyway I pasted them -\r\n
\r\nTehran promised a \u201ccrushing response\u201d <\/b> to any US or Israeli attack\r\n
\r\nAttacking Iran could also tip the scales towards a new geopolitical balance, one in which the US finds itself shut out by Russia, China, Iran, Muslim countries and the many others Bush has managed to offend during his period in office. Just last month, Russia snubbed Washington <\/b>by announcing it would go ahead and honor a $700 million contract to arm Iran <\/b> with surface-to-air missiles, slated to guard Iran\u2019s nuclear facilities.\r\n
\r\nRussia and China have developed strong ties recently,<\/b> both with each other and with Iran. Each possesses nuclear weapons.\r\n
\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WOK20060219&articleId=2002\r\n\r\n
\r\n\r\n\r\nRussia Warns U.S. Against Striking Iran<\/b>\r\n\r\n
\r\n \r\nFebruary 20, 2006 \r\nAP \r\n
\r\nRussia's top military chief on Thursday warned the United States against launching a military strike against Iran\r\n
\r\n"A military scenario can't be ruled out," Baluyevsky was quoted as saying by Russian news agencies.\r\n
\r\n"We are counting on the continuation of close contacts with our Chinese colleagues <\/b> and other interested countries," Alekseyev was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency.\r\n
\r\n"Taking into account the good relations between Russia and Iran, <\/b> I hope that together we can overcome this crisis which has arisen recently," Gholamreza Ansari said at a meeting with Russian lawmakers.\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2006-03-07 10:45:22","modified":"2013-11-11 00:38:38","fileurl":""},{"id":149366,"heading":"muckOmeter","article":"The muckometer just tallies up scores on each post and creates a total. An article gets a score of -1 if someone clicks on the 'report troll post' link.\r\n\r\nIt's just there so you can say "oh sheeit, there's a lot of muck on this thread" and shake your head.","author":"johnk","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 11:05:29","modified":"2006-03-07 11:05:29","fileurl":""},{"id":149376,"heading":"thanks as always, jornk","article":"It's too bad the 'meter' can't be placed on the header before one wades into the muck.\r\nLike the 'Becky' thread.\r\nright Whizz?","author":"S'bot Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 15:08:52","modified":"2006-03-07 15:08:52","fileurl":""},{"id":149377,"heading":"Another Mistake I made","article":"See that?\r\nI missed a key.","author":"S'not Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 15:13:19","modified":"2006-03-07 15:13:19","fileurl":""},{"id":149380,"heading":" "S'not Hex" - aw look I've got a pet !","article":"imitation is the sincerest form of flattery - baka yaroo\r\n\r\nRe: the Becko thread\r\n\r\nwell SOME good came out of it - I'm now airing the very content FRSC got busted for :)\r\n\r\n\r\nand sheepster, urusai kono bakayaro, anata wa dame des\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-03-07 15:52:19","modified":"2006-03-07 15:52:19","fileurl":""},{"id":199175,"heading":"concerning hiding.","article":"The comments about hiding certain posts ( off topic ) in this thread:\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2007\/05\/198569_comment.php#199172\r\n\r\nOne can always complain about the editorial functions but if one were to actually use the report buttons available, like reporting a mistake on one's on miss-formatted thread, instead of merely complaining about the lack of editorial oversight, it would make more sense.\r\nEven if the individual is of the opinion that the report button system "sucks".\r\nJust my humble opinion.","author":"sd","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-18 14:44:34","modified":"2007-05-18 14:44:34","fileurl":""},{"id":199586,"heading":"Please fix","article":"this:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2007\/05\/198569_comment.php#199171\r\n\r\n(1.) It's a double post.\r\n\r\n(2.) The html doesn't display correctly.\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"thanks in advance","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-23 13:15:51","modified":"2007-05-23 13:15:51","fileurl":""},{"id":199587,"heading":"have entered - double post","article":"have entered 'double post'\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2007\/05\/198569_comment.php#199171\r\nThat's all I or anyone can do. Then wait for the editorial scupper. Sometimes it takes awhile.","author":"sd","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-23 13:41:24","modified":"2007-05-23 13:41:24","fileurl":""},{"id":199589,"heading":""Sometimes it takes awhile."","article":"It's been six days since [double post] was first entered. In the meantime, other comments in the thread have been hidden, but not this one. What's up with that? Could it be that the [double post] button is not working? Would entering [off topic] or [hate\/insult] work?","author":"I don't think that's the problem","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-23 14:00:16","modified":"2007-05-23 14:00:16","fileurl":""},{"id":199590,"heading":"It's gone now","article":"I don't get it, either. \r\nTechnically speaking, it was a double post and I like to accurately flag these things. I used four points to delete that comment. And, you're welcome.","author":"sd","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-23 14:06:56","modified":"2007-05-23 14:06:56","fileurl":""},{"id":199591,"heading":"Yeah, that's weird.","article":"Maybe somebody ought to have a look at the code.","author":"thanks again","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-23 14:12:03","modified":"2007-05-23 14:12:03","fileurl":""},{"id":199651,"heading":"another typo","article":"I did it again:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2007\/05\/198569_comment.php#199639\r\n\r\nSorry about that. Please delete.\r\n\r\nThanks in advance. ","author":"sorry about that","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-24 04:26:39","modified":"2007-05-24 04:26:39","fileurl":""},{"id":199667,"heading":"please elaborate re. typo","article":"In order to verify that this is not a false report. I didn't see any errors and one must be certain at times not to follow any hide requests, w\/o checking.\r\n","author":"sd","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-24 10:43:45","modified":"2007-05-24 10:43:45","fileurl":""},{"id":199683,"heading":"Sorry, I got the number wrong","article":"I meant the one you already hid, with the html not correctly displayed:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/hidden.php?id=198569#199647\r\n\r\nSorry. My bad. Next time I'll just quit and go to bed when I'm tired. ","author":"oops, I did it again","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-24 15:20:08","modified":"2007-05-24 15:20:08","fileurl":""},{"id":199775,"heading":"another question for the editors","article":"Glancing on the hidden zone, I see that there is questionable oversight involved in confirming deleted posts.\r\njohnk, were you serious about totally automating this process?\r\nThink about the parameters first, please. \r\nThe enemy will exploit any windows of vulnerability to gain control ( as we can see already) of the hiding process by producing 'hide' posts which gain report credits. I was surprised that this was so straight forward, w\/o certain processes like review or cancelation of the interference with the latest comment page like, removing author and placement. Particularly with the spam and porn'bot assault going on and apparently intensifying. \r\nSome of these obviously noise posts are here to jam pertinent posts down down down.\r\n'reason for hiding' \r\nDid you at one time ( I've archived the comment ) say you were going to install this feature? Maybe there could be a reader review process to *unhide* posts that (ahem ) are hidden for purposes of the enemy. \r\nTransparency is important, as you say, yourself.\r\n\r\n\r\nJust noticing a few commonalities that could be used to bounce this crap.","author":"sd","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-05-25 21:52:44","modified":"2007-05-25 21:52:44","fileurl":""},{"id":202111,"heading":"more changes","article":"I've noticed another change in the peer review process. Now there is no ID number and the amount of add\/porn spam has been cut.\r\nAmong other not mentioned changes to access the comments.\r\nAny information?","author":"sd","parent_id":148353,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2007-06-30 14:15:50","modified":"2007-06-30 14:15:50","fileurl":""}]}