{"article":{"id":139019,"heading":"The farmers are on RED ALERT","author":"Latinos Unidos","created":"2005-11-09 23:55:28","modified":"2013-11-11 00:36:41","last_modified":"Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:36:41","article":"

Join the South Central Farmers for a Night of

Celebration and Solidarity:

COMMUNITY CAMP OUT

At the South Central Farm

41st and Long Beach Avenue

SATURDAY NOVEMBER 12

6pm to Sunday morning

BRING YOUR INSTRUMENTS, SONGS, POEMS, STORIES, AND

ANYTHING

ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE!!!!

Delicious food and hot drinks for all!

Bring your friends, family, and neighbors:

All are welcome!!!

Please bring your sleeping bag or blankets,

flash-lights, and any

firewood, coffee, or bottled water

No drugs or alcohol

For more info on the camp out:

freedom_echoes@yahoo.com<\/a>

For more info on the farm:

southcentralfarmers@hotmail.com<\/a>

Southcentralfarmers.com

The farmers are on RED ALERT!! On Tuesday, November 8, Ralph Horowitz will most likely get full property

rights to the farm, and he told the LA Times recently

that he would get the sheriff to \"throw off\" the

farmers from the land. He plans to destroy the farm

and build a warehouse, despite the fact that the farm

has fed low-income families for 13 years. The land

was given to the community after the LA uprising in

1992. Today, poverty in the area has actually

increased, however, the City, Horowitz, and the courts

plan to deny the farmers the right to healthy food,

safe space, clean environment, a place for family and

community to come together and grow strong. We ask all

people of conscience to join with us in a night of

celebration of community, the farmers, and this

beautiful community garden. We need to quickly

mobilize to show our wide-spread support which comes

from all parts of Los Angeles by many different people

who all know that family, health, safety, life, green

spaces, community, and sustainability are crucial to

our city. We need to show that many, many people know

that community needs far outweigh individual greed.

Not only is mass participation important for showing

community support, but it is also necessary to have

many people at the farm to protect it and protest any

potential evictions. Please join the farmers in

saying loud and clear, “We shall not be moved!”

Join the South Central Farmers for a Night of

Celebration and Solidarity:

COMMUNITY CAMP OUT

At the South Central Farm

41st and Long Beach Avenue

SATURDAY NOVEMBER 12

6pm to Sunday morning

BRING YOUR INSTRUMENTS, SONGS, POEMS, STORIES, AND

ANYTHING

ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE!!!!

Delicious food and hot drinks for all!

Bring your friends, family, and neighbors:

All are welcome!!!

Please bring your sleeping bag or blankets,

flash-lights, and any

firewood, coffee, or bottled water

No drugs or alcohol

For more info on the camp out:

freedom_echoes@yahoo.com<\/a>

For more info on the farm:

southcentralfarmers@hotmail.com<\/a>

Southcentralfarmers.com<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/www.saveourgarden.com\/savethegardenFrameset.htm","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"The farmers are on RED ALERT!! On Tuesday, November 8, Ralph Horowitz will most likely get full property\r\nrights to the farm, and he told the LA Times recently\r\nthat he would get the sheriff to "throw off" the\r\nfarmers from the land. He plans to destroy the farm\r\nand build a warehouse, despite the fact that the farm\r\nhas fed low-income families for 13 years. ","numcomment":8,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2005\/11\/139019.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":139026,"heading":"They Knew","article":"Taken from the garden supporters own web site\r\n\r\n******************************************\r\n\r\n"When the gardeners get the plot, they sign an agreement, and it says specifically that the garden\r\ncan be taken away at any time,"\r\n\r\n"You don't take gardeners who may or may not pay any rent and put them on a piece of land with immense value, which would result in a large taxpayer subsidy," Horowitz said. "Taxpayers are giving up lots and lots and lots of money for these 300 farmers. It's fine as an interim use. Everybody knew it would be temporary."\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.saveourgarden.com\/savethegardenFrameset.htm\r\n\r\n\r\n******************************************\r\n\r\ntough break robones","author":"guess","parent_id":139019,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-11-10 01:23:21","modified":"2005-11-10 01:23:21","fileurl":""},{"id":139066,"heading":"Wage slavery does not food produce","article":"\r\nChicano831 wrote; \r\n\r\n"the answer is "wages" which are used to purchase food at markets. The amount purchased by even minimum wage workers greatly outweighs that can be produced on a plot of land. Why don't u do the math?" \r\n\r\nThe concept of this capitalist tripe is that if we increase people's wages by offering employment then there will suddenly be more food available at markets. This is another myth that assumes ecology processes are dictated by our capitalist economic wizards of money like Ralph Horowitz.. \r\n\r\nWizrds of Money audio files; \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.robinupton.com\/people\/WizardsOfMoney\/ \r\n\r\nA community garden farm IS providing food to people directly without the middleman of wage slavery and a retail market. When food is grown and distributed by the farmers and community land stewards, the ecological system provides soil replenishing without the addition of petrochemical based fertilizers and other addictions of industrial agricultura (monocultura). Look at any scientific studies on soil erosion, salinity increases and other long term byproducts of industrial agriculture (monocultura) and you may realize the value of community gardens using crop diversity as a real human benefit by providing nutritious food for people with low cost of input (no petrochemical byproducts needed). Just having some short term wage slavery economic factor at the expense of the land's long term sustainability as a community garden results in a net loss of food production potential for the community. The only real benefactor is the wallet of one Ralph Horowitz and any of his paid capitalist stooges.. \r\n\r\n"Organic agriculture can feed the world"; \r\n\r\n"This paper looks at numerous and diverse data sets from around the world, showing that given the right conditions, organic agriculture can deliver sustainable high yields. Organic agriculture programs initiated by several organisations have substantially increased yields for many third world communities. This has been done with very low input and infrastructure costs to these communities and has substantially increased their standard of living. Data from the advanced agricultural economies of North America, Australia and Europe show that best practice organics can deliver equal and to significantly better yields than current conventional agricultural practices." \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.organicconsumers.org\/organic\/110705.cfm \r\n\r\nIt will be sad if the community allows their garden to be paved over for another meaningless warehouse. Community gardens produce life and food, warehouses produce capital accumulation for wealthy land barons like Ralph Horowitz. Another question; what tribe of indigenous people were slaughtered and forcibly relocated so that Ralph Horowitz could claim ownership of this communal land space?? \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.dickshovel.com\/500.html \r\n\r\nThe land belongs to noone, though the current community garden land stewards are treating the land better than a wage slavery warehouse ever will.. \r\n\r\nluna moth \r\n","author":"capitalist economy not ecological sustainable","parent_id":139019,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-11-10 19:53:56","modified":"2005-11-10 19:53:56","fileurl":""},{"id":140192,"heading":"Rightful Owner","article":"But Ralph Horowitz isn't the rightful owner. \r\n\r\nNot that long ago, the city council took a look at the 14 acres Mayor Bradley had given to the community for economic development, and they determined nothing was there, so they sold it for a warehouse. Likewise, the courts said nothing was there. Their idea of "nothing" is 14 acres of a working farm, a model of urban agriculture, supporting 350 families.\r\n\r\nThe refusal to see what's in front of them makes the city council and the state judiciary wrong. They should buy back the land, give Horowitz another tract, or do whatever it takes to make this right.\r\n\r\nAs of 2002, the city council dumped $43M into "renovating" Griffith Park for joggers and skygazers. Surely they or someone can scrounge up $5M for a working farm.","author":"Leslie","parent_id":139019,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-11-30 17:19:51","modified":"2005-11-30 17:19:51","fileurl":""},{"id":140247,"heading":"So is NYC's Central Park","article":"Central Park is prime real estate, so it should be paved over too?\r\n\r\n"Realistic" is people putting pressure on Villaraigosa and Perry, and threatening to destroy their images as liberal populists.\r\n\r\n"Realistic" is knowing that positive self-help projects like the farm are a community benefit. On the main street near the Farm, there are liquor stores, porn shops, and a strip joint. Those things are basically negative impacts in a community. This Farm mitigates some of those impacts, by teaching kids that there's more to life than getting high and paying for sex.","author":"johnk","parent_id":139019,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-12-01 10:10:26","modified":"2005-12-01 10:10:26","fileurl":""},{"id":140250,"heading":"So let them pay","article":">>>"You don't take gardeners who may or may not pay any rent and put them on a piece of land with immense value, which would result in a large taxpayer subsidy," Horowitz said. "Taxpayers are giving up lots and lots and lots of money for these 300 farmers. It's fine as an interim use. Everybody knew it would be temporary."\r\n\r\nSo, let the farmers pay. Arrange a very long term, no-interest loan to a land trust. Let the users pay small monthly fees, like, $5-$10 a month, and that will pay for the land. At the end of the loan period (around 100 to 130 years), the title of the land will belong to several thousand people scattered around LA and the world. \r\n\r\nThen, start a process of subdividing the ownership again, by buying out the trust from each of the "owners". Once upon a time, this hyper-fragmented ownership scheme would have been difficult to impossible to manage, but with computers and the internet, it could be done with minimal human intervention.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.iceclt.org\/clt\/cltmodel.html","author":"johnk","parent_id":139019,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-12-01 10:28:45","modified":"2005-12-01 10:28:45","fileurl":""}]}