{"article":{"id":134657,"heading":"SOS to Return to Baldwin Park","author":"Next Move","created":"2005-08-30 00:51:42","modified":"2013-11-11 00:35:19","last_modified":"Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:35:19","article":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p>In a sign that Save Our State is getting a little desperate for publicity and in a possible attempt to thwart the Stormfront Nazis who were also planning such and event, Joe Turner, leader of SOS, has revealed on the SOS website (saveourstate.org) that he plans to bring his ragtag bunch of anti-immigrant activists back to Baldwin Park to protest the &ldquo;seditious&rdquo; language of the Danzas Ind&iacute;genas public art project.   <br><br> There were internet rumblings and rumors earlier in the week about Baldwin Park III being organized by the National Vanguard and the Stormfront Nazis but no sooner than  that information was posted on the Stormfront website it was taken down and Turner posted his plans on the SOS website.   <br><br>  <br>  <br> *****The text below is from the SOS website, written by Joe Turner****** <br><br> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saveourstate.org\/forums\/index.php?showtopic=4487\">http:\/\/www.saveourstate.org\/forums\/index.php?showtopic=4487<\/a> <br><br> Hey Everyone: <br><br> I want to go back to Baldwin Park. Our opposition is fractured and it was evident the last time we were there. Conversely, in light of incredible pressure against our going back and even with our asking women and elderly to stay home, our turnout grew. <br><br> I believe it is time to go back to Baldwin Park to liberate this occupied territory.  <br><br> Anyone have any thoughts on a date in October? Anyone have any thoughts in general?  <br><br> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saveourstate.org\/forums\/index.php?showtopic=4487\">http:\/\/www.saveourstate.org\/forums\/index.php?showtopic=4487<\/a> <br>  <br> <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/www.saveourstate.org\/forums\/index.php?showtopic=4487","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Save Our State is planning to return to Baldwin Park for a third anti-immigrant demonstration.  They are in the planning stages right now and are discussing which date would work best.  ","numcomment":14,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2005\/08\/134657.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":134668,"heading":"SOS-NAZI","article":"","author":"x","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-30 14:45:03","modified":"2005-08-30 14:45:03","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/_20_mvc-007s.jpgmid_1_.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/_20_mvc-007s.jpgmid_1_.jpg"}},{"id":134669,"heading":"SOS-NAZI","article":"","author":"x","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-30 14:45:37","modified":"2005-08-30 14:45:37","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/_16_11_7a.jpgmid_1_.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/_16_11_7a.jpgmid_1_.jpg"}},{"id":134670,"heading":"SOS-NAZI","article":"Where are you Donnie? It's like trying to find Waldo, but not quite. we can see you with the camoflage shirt holding that sign with &quot;advocate&quot; who is from neo nazi group national vanguard.","author":"x","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-30 14:57:54","modified":"2005-08-30 14:57:54","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/storm.jpgmid_1_.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/storm.jpgmid_1_.jpg"}},{"id":134672,"heading":"joe turner","article":"   This little SOB Joe Turner has been exposed for the nazi that he is, the only reason he plans  a BP#3is for the media attention. At BP2 I had to spend the weekend in jail for tresspassing on the railroad tracks.\r\n\r\n  I say that if he does come to Baldwin Park 'wE SHOULD NOT MOBILIZE&quot;, leave this little punk to stand on the corner be himself.\r\n\r\n  We should just send some Vatos Locos to give him a good ass wippin. If this son of a nazi whore ever returns for BP3, he will surely get his ass beat for making the city of Baldwin Park spend it's money on hiring 500 cops to protect him.  \r\n\r\n                ","author":"el chingon","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-30 15:50:36","modified":"2005-08-30 15:50:36","fileurl":""},{"id":134693,"heading":"LOL!  Fractured.","article":"> Our opposition is fractured and it was evident \r\n> the last time we were there.\r\n\r\nLove it!  We were _so_ fractured that we out numbered the racists something like 30 to 1.  Man, that kind of &quot;fracturing&quot; is what's also faxcing George Bush everywhere.  <smirk>\r\n\r\nWe need a lot more &quot;fracturing&quot; like that.\r\n","author":"Fredric L. Rice","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-30 19:38:02","modified":"2005-08-30 19:38:02","fileurl":""},{"id":134707,"heading":"So where ya been lately? Give up on MInutemen and SOS?","article":"Out number in Carlsbad.\r\n\r\nNumber of at Ontario for GIlchrist: 0\r\n\r\nNumber at Moorpark for Ramierez: 0\r\n\r\nNumber at Garden Grove for Ramirez\/ GIlchirst: 0\r\n\r\nNumber in Beverly Hills 12","author":"watcher","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-30 23:06:06","modified":"2005-08-30 23:06:06","fileurl":""},{"id":134716,"heading":"Hey x and Chingo, I am right here !","article":"I am right here, where I have always been ! \r\n\r\nI put my # up here long ago, and feel very lonely and neglected, as I have yet to get a shing a ling! \r\n\r\nOh, btw, advocate is not a Nazi, and I would stand by him again. You really shoule get to know people before you classify them so quickly. Predjudice  ? Tisk tisk !\r\n\r\nOh, Ghing boy, if you really spent the whole weekend in the slammer for something like that, its is no wonder you do not want to come back to BP ! I do not blame you ! Just for the record, I was not for anyone getting arrested that day for being on the tracks, except for violent guys like you and that Orozco guy... what a pig he is ! \r\n\r\nThe goons can not help themselves. They are mostly made up of primitive and tribal minded folks to whome territory means much. They will be there, as we will\r\n\r\nWE WILL PREVAIL ! The racist remarks will be removed from the monument, and Baca will eat more crow than a brigade of squirrels at a road kill buffet!\r\n\r\nLove that comment about sending folks to beat on Joe Turner ! Keep hanging yourselves. It will be sad to see indy shut down over stuff like this. Also, ching boy, just how were  you planning on getting by the 2 million riot cops that need to be there to protect old women from your violence ???\r\n\r\nThe ciry is spending its money on YOU goons, not us !\r\n\r\nViva La Migra !","author":"Don Silva","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-31 01:53:08","modified":"2005-08-31 01:53:08","fileurl":""},{"id":134717,"heading":"Dont lie for me, Don Silva","article":"who ya gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?","author":"Notanattorneyeither","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-31 02:27:58","modified":"2005-08-31 02:27:58","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/bp1.jpgwtdudp.jpgmid.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/bp1.jpgwtdudp.jpgmid.jpg"}},{"id":134739,"heading":"littlebopeep","article":"did i hear this correctly? did donnie say he will stand with a neonazi group again. thanks donnie for outing yourself as being a raicst.","author":"x","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-31 16:13:41","modified":"2005-08-31 16:13:41","fileurl":""},{"id":134745,"heading":"Free Sombreros for all Minutemensos!","article":"MEXICANIZATION OF AMERICA \r\nBy Frothing at the Mouth Wooldridge  (pictured above in Sombrero)\r\n \r\nAn arrogant billboard exploded on the Los Angeles skyline a few months ago by a local TV station: \u201cLos Angeles, Mexico: Your Town, Your Community.\u201d \r\n\r\nIt was spelled out in Spanish. CA was crossed out with a red X and replaced by the word \u2018MEXICO\u2019. Two smiling Latinos representing over two million taco shops in the City of Angels smiled from their anchor baby  desks. \r\n\r\nBehind them stood the smoggy LA skyline replete with skyscrapers. Most disconcerting was a statue, also in the billboard picture, that stands in the middle of Mexico City - obviously flown in by aliens!\r\n\r\nThe Mexicanization of America, races, with total support from George Bush and his Congress, full speed across our country. La Raza, the most delicious tacos in the world, licks its chops as sheer numbers of taco shops have taken over every corner in  Los Angeles. They\u2019ve run American hotdog stands out of countless cities and communities. \r\n\r\nLa Raza\u2019s motto is, \u201cTacos with everything; or with nothing!\u201d What is their prime directive? It is the \u2018Refried bean conquest of Aztlan\u2019 or the retaking of our four border states back from Taco Bell. \r\n\r\nThe Mexicanization of America races unimpeded by our own elected officials. In the last election, George Bush featured a web site for Mexicans in America with the Mexican flag promoting La Raza Tacos \u2014 not the hotdog and bun. So did Kerry! \r\n\r\nHow many Mexicans? Over 30 million Mexicans overwhelm us, and even while they detest us, they feed us, garden, pick 90% of all the veggies on our tables and take on the worst jobs in America - of course that's all we'll give them.  And to show their gratitude, THOUSANDS of MEXICANS have a bumper sticker that reads, \u201cF**K YOU! THIS IS MEXICO.\u201d Isn\u2019t that a wonderful welcome to the City of Angels?\r\n\r\nWell if you can't fight them, join them.  How do I look in my new sombrero?\r\n\r\nYour unfriendly anti-Mexican correspondent,  Frothing at the Mouth Wooldridge\r\n","author":"Pachuco","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-31 18:54:44","modified":"2013-11-11 00:35:19","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/free_sombreros_for_minutemensos.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/free_sombreros_for_minutemensos.jpg"}},{"id":134765,"heading":"SOS-NAZI","article":"","author":"Maru","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-09-01 16:22:01","modified":"2005-09-01 16:22:01","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/santa_20clarita_20group_1_.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/santa_20clarita_20group_1_.jpg"}},{"id":134772,"heading":"Yeah, that is just what I said!","article":"\r\nI am sorry, I did not make myself clear enuff. \r\n\r\nI mean that just becuzz advocate stands in a picture with white seps, does not mean he is a 'Nazi'. If you say this, all you are diong is showing a lack of true understanding on the issue. \r\n\r\nIf you do not know, there are many levels to that movement. Some of them just feel threatened, just like many Mexican American's do, and speak much the same way they do. It goes all the way to the other extreme where they are waving lame flags. Advocate is in the first camp, and is equal to all those, like yourselves, that will express concern about their race being stomped on. \r\n\r\nYOU ALL ARE THE SAME AS HIM! So, do not look at me sideways, lest you slit your own throats.\r\n\r\nI am not even white, and he likes me. So much for the racism.","author":"Don Silva","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-09-01 18:40:55","modified":"2005-09-01 18:40:55","fileurl":""},{"id":134791,"heading":"He is not a Nazi, just because","article":"Just because he is a member of the KKK.\r\nJust because he writes about &quot;the Jews and the Kennedys&quot; and &quot;Pink Swastikas&quot;\r\nJust because he posts on Stormfrong\r\nJust because he attends White Power Events\r\nJust because he has his pictures taken with White Nationals,\r\nJust because he was booted from a John and Ken event for passing out White National literature...\r\n\r\nDoes not make him Nazi.","author":"Proteststoomuch","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-09-01 23:24:54","modified":"2005-09-01 23:24:54","fileurl":""},{"id":134799,"heading":"Just becuzz i said so.","article":"KKK member ? News to me. Care to illuminate me on your source of information on that.\r\n\r\nWhite power events? Such as a convention somewhere? \r\n\r\nWhile the KKK membership would be substantial, and would make me reconsider, the rest does not prove that he is indeed a Nazi, which is what the original issue in question. A Nazi in this context would be someone that actually belonged to a neo-nazi group, had other affiliation to aryan groups, or was in some way a supporter of Hitler's views. \r\n\r\nPosting on stormfront, depending on the content of the posts, can be a bad thing, but makes no one a Nazi in and of itself. There are plenty of Nazi's on stromfront, and they usually make it very known.\r\n\r\nPink Swazi's ? You are refering to something that I do not know about. \r\n\r\nStanding next to White Nationalists that have very differing views from one another as far as how extreme they are does not make him a nazi. It may make me reconsider depending on those present, and what their views are. Like I said, some of them are just sick of being told they are evil for just being white, or wanting to be treated the same as other ethnic groups. Can you imagine if they wanted a 'white history month' like there is a 'black history month' ??? This kind of double standard is very pronounced in our society. It is also ubiquitous, and is a sickening hypocrisy among us.\r\n\r\nJohn and Ken event ? Perhaps you could elaborate further.\r\n\r\nHey, I am always open to those that have something to say, especially when they present solid, factual information regarding the issue at hand.","author":"Don Siva","parent_id":134657,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-09-02 01:28:28","modified":"2005-09-02 01:28:28","fileurl":""}]}