{"article":{"id":134462,"heading":"ENMOD CREATING RADIATION DAMAGE TO PLANTS\/ANIMALS IN USA ++","author":"uh huh","created":"2005-08-26 11:29:08","modified":"2005-08-30 11:02:22","last_modified":"Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:02:22","article":"
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THE AMAZING LARGE SCALE MUTANT MESQUITES OF SW NM 2005
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BIOLOGICAL MUTATIONS OCCURRING DUE TO ENMOD
http:\/\/www.luxefaire.com\/glowingmutie4bush\/index.html<\/a>
http:\/\/www.chapelhill.indymedia.org\/news\/2005\/07\/15830.php<\/a>
http:\/\/richmond.indymedia.org\/newswire\/display\/10863<\/a>
http:\/\/neworleans.indymedia.org\/news\/2005\/07\/3663.php<\/a>
http:\/\/www.ntimc.org\/newswire.php?story_id=2876<\/a>
\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"--------------get pix of muties in your area!!!!-------those limes at the glowingmutie4bush page (devils fruit) came from LA!","numcomment":60,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2005\/08\/134462.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":134465,"heading":"this crap again","article":"Plant mutations are very common, have been around for years and have nothing to do with unspecified "radiation".\r\n\r\nBut don't let mere facts get in the way of ignorant paranoia based spamming snake oil posts..\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/gif","created":"2005-08-26 11:46:54","modified":"2005-08-26 11:46:54","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/flake_spam.gif","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/flake_spam.gif"}},{"id":134466,"heading":"note to johnk","article":"only the first frame of animated GIF's are being processed - the GIF I just U\/L'ed was 178.kb and it appears as a 5.kb GIF above\r\n(that UFO was rotating)\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-26 11:50:02","modified":"2005-08-26 11:50:02","fileurl":""},{"id":134467,"heading":"No matter the cause...","article":"I'd like to see a whole lot more data on this before I'd believe this isn't some kind of balloon.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-26 12:27:05","modified":"2005-08-26 12:27:05","fileurl":""},{"id":134472,"heading":"well considering your background","article":"in the hard sciences (NOT) along with the tendency to believe any\/all self-proclaimed "expert" on all things flakey and paranoid which conviently doesn't require any heavy thinking, research or data analysis, that's not too likely..\r\n\r\nwhat IS likely is you will continue to post pasted flake crap devoid of any fact finding or checking - even when the facts are presented right up to your face.\r\n\r\nthe key fact here being plant mutations existing years before not only "chemtrails" but also the nuclear age.\r\n\r\nA simple study of botanics will show - as I already pointed out, along with my personal experience in seeing tens of thousands of trees, bushes, flowers, herbs and foodcrops - all before "chemtrails"\r\n\r\nGoogling "plant mutations" will do\r\n\r\nBut you can't be bothered to do that - you're too busy spending all your time poisoning your mind with the waste products of other poisoned and dysfunctional minds - eating other's "mind shit" so to speak.\r\n\r\nHaving becomed addicted, it's the only "facts" you have time for with that attention span you have\r\n\r\n\r\n723,000 hits for plant mutations\r\n\r\n507 hits for "plant mutations"\r\n \r\nYour search - "radiation plant mutations" - did not match any documents. \r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-26 13:29:36","modified":"2005-08-26 13:29:36","fileurl":""},{"id":134475,"heading":"like...","article":"...a baffoon balloon.\r\nStill at your own mischief? Did you guys post this to begin with?\r\n\r\nникакие цепи не могут держать людей если мы вытягиваем совместно","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-26 14:43:32","modified":"2005-08-26 14:43:32","fileurl":""},{"id":134477,"heading":""baffoon balloon" dwindling lies & games","article":"the dialogue shrinks to cryptic and obtuse non-statements designed to conseal the ignorance and paranoia which started the spam thread in the first place..\r\n\r\n"Tesla energy" did that too - smoke & mirror (bait & switch) 6 stooped to semantics (word games)\r\n\r\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n\r\nI tried posting this reply over the space of a couple of hours - twice. Still does not appear (even though it says to wait a few minutes or a bit longer and I did so)\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/portland.indymedia.org\/en\/2005\/03\/312922.shtml\r\n\r\nJonesy\r\n\r\n\r\nAs the years slip by, the number of AIDS denialists plummets, as most of them seem to die from mysterious undiagnosed illnesses that their misguided friends assure everyone else "has nothing to do with AIDS". Even at death's door denial continues. \r\nThe list os "scientists" still comprises a fraction of 1% of the world's scientists who know the true facts about HIV\/AIDS. Some people on this list don't even know they are on it - and have been aghast that statments concerning one or other fact about HIV which they have been in dispute about have now been misconstrued and placed them in the category of "dissident". A large number of "scientists" on the list are not even scientists, but media types, authors, complementary practitioners and so on. But once again, denialists don't let the facts spoil a good story. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nDenialists ? -who's really in denial ?\r\n\r\n\r\nI've been collecting data on AIDS for years and have seen numerous examples where the outcome of the disease didn't jive with traditionally accepted knowledge of either the cause or result.\r\n\r\nCases of repeated multible sexual contacts with HIV positive individuals that resulted in no disease even many years afterward as shown by HIV antibody tests.\r\n\r\nYet also cases of HIV-like symptoms with none of the risk factors enumerated by traditional knowledge with a quick mortality.\r\n\r\nA strong connection between the highly toxic chemotherapy agents utilized for AIDS treatment and mortality, with conversely asymtomatic cases of HIV positive individuals who continue to live active healthy lives many years after coming up HIV positive.\r\n\r\nThe data strongly suggests that the whole HIV-AIDS situation is a scam and a fraud - not to mention the direct documented evidence that it's a man-made virus engineered specifically with the intent of being untreatable.\r\n\r\nThe epidemiology of the outbreaks DOES match vaccine programs - no amount of word play can "deny" that, and it's not the first disease or occurrence for this either.\r\n\r\nIt's not about superficially denying HIV\/AIDS (such simplistic rhetoric only scratches the surface of the issue and discourages further investigation) - it's about the origins, causes, risk factors, treatments and money tied up in the whole scam.\r\n\r\nA great example is cancer -\r\n\r\nBillions of dollars have been spent on cancer research over the years yet we still aren't any closer to a cure today than we were 40 years ago.\r\n\r\nMost of the same researchers who were in the cancer racket moved to the AIDS racket when it became popular.\r\n\r\nDire warnings were issued that millions are infected and would express AIDS and *DIE* when it was first announced in the early 80's. That timeframe has passed and yet the number of mortality cases actually seen has been only a tiny fraction of the doomsayer's predictions. \r\n\r\n\r\nIn this country -\r\n\r\n\r\nNow looking at Africa we see AIDS is doing very well killing millions as predicted.\r\n\r\nA close look at the *living conditions, standard of living, sanitation, and PESTICIDE USE* in Africa is very revealing.\r\n\r\nSame as with cancer - all that money and time wasted on treating-curing cancer when the source of and solution to the problem is right under our nose\r\n\r\nToxic chemicals, pesticides, pollution, enviromental factors - lifestyle, diet...\r\n\r\nThe very companies and industries that have the majority of the traditional scientists in thier back pockets who are responsible for the cancer and AIDS, are the one's who attempt to bury the real issues and DENY thier own roles in these problems.\r\n\r\nThey then have a constant supply of denialists who go around demonizing anyone who sees this connection who use rhetorical sound bites to stifle and silence.\r\n\r\nNotice how the original poster provided URLs and encouraged further study and research, acknowledging this being a complicated and prolonged subject - to think for yourself, to check the data, etc..\r\n\r\nBut the detractors simply rely on short attention span emotionally loaded statements that discourage further thought by emotionally shutting down the subject..\r\n\r\nI also encourage much more study, research and investigation - specifically on the toxicity of pesticides, byproducts, industrial chemicals, and how they relate to the signs and symptoms of what is often called "AIDS".\r\n\r\nSee how few of the hundreds of thousands of chemicals in our enviroment have even basic safety testing performed due to COMMERCIAL INTRESTS applying pressure to save money, study Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) where you work, check the MSDS database and look at the raw list of chemicals approved for use, then see how few of them are actually known safe.\r\n\r\nIn this light the cause of cancer and "AIDS" when a cross-referanced to tonnage v country will become clear.\r\n\r\nThis is an even stronger correlation between disease and population than vaccines..\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-26 15:05:02","modified":"2005-08-26 15:05:02","fileurl":""},{"id":134500,"heading":"Hi, Mr. Whizzard!","article":"-"the dialogue shrinks to cryptic and obtuse non-statements designed to conseal the ignorance and paranoia which started the spam thread in the first place.. \r\n \r\n"Tesla energy" did that too - smoke & mirror (bait & switch) 6 stooped to semantics (word games) "- \r\n \r\n:>) \r\nWhy don't you provide the readers with the URL to this 'bait and switch' so that they may decide for themselves who is an ignoramus, Mr. Whizzard? \r\nhere it is: \r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2005\/08\/134202.php \r\n\r\nAs for mutant veggies, it may be occurring more often than statistics would account for than in the past due to the increasing background radiation levels after thousands of tons of U238+ was burnt in the last decade or so of 'soft' nuclear warfare to disperse in unstoppable plumes of microscopic particles to cross the earth... Just a thought about this particular thread.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-27 03:21:17","modified":"2005-08-27 03:21:17","fileurl":""},{"id":134502,"heading":" academic = ignoramus","article":"So history and facts from *academic resources* is what you call "ignoramus" while shit you made up as you went, stooping to just word games at the end (energy ISN'T power - power ISN'T energy) is presented as overriding "truth"\r\n\r\nAnd I suppose the other commenter was "ignorant" too to mention how sorely lacking in real science some people are - the very people (person) who automaticly believes any and all things flakely and paranoid\r\n\r\nAnd that time machine is at it again with Uranium - plant mutations - once more - going back through *written history* well before the nuclear age\r\n\r\nJust ignore that little fact and be "ignorant"\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-27 09:48:49","modified":"2005-08-27 09:48:49","fileurl":""},{"id":134508,"heading":"awww, I know it's difficult","article":"But could you please make a least a little sense? \r\nFor everyone's sake, Mr. Whizzard. Even your own. Babble isn't a reply. You need to actually say something. You know, to respond to something I wrote instead of making up concepts from your realm of something I didn't say. I suspect you can't.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-27 11:27:28","modified":"2005-08-27 11:27:28","fileurl":""},{"id":134509,"heading":""For everyone's sake"","article":"I posted the unit of measure of magnetic energy from academic source - Oersteds, something you called "Tesla" which you then changed to say radio, then AC power, then changed to denying you ever said it, then denied power = energy..\r\n\r\nWhich you now claim is "ignorant babble" - on my part\r\n\r\n\r\nmagnetic energy - Oersteds, Gauss\r\n\r\nRadio - Hertz\r\n\r\nAC power - Westinghouse\r\n\r\n\r\n"babble"\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\u00d8rsted, Hans Christian. (1777-1851).\r\nDanish physicist, professor at the University of Copenhagen. Discovered that current flowing through a wire can deflect a magnetised compass needle, a phenomenon which inspired the development of electromagnetic theory. In 1932 the name \u00d8rsted (Oersted) was adopted for the physical unit of magnetic field strength.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nIn 1887 a physicist named Heinrich Rudolf Hertz who proved that electricity can be transmitted in electromagnetic waves.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn 1886, George Westinghouse developed AC power, the patents are held by him.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFrom academic sources..\r\n\r\n\r\nYou claimed Tesla for all these things plus denied power is energy..\r\n\r\n\r\nthen accuse ME of "ignorant babble"\r\n\r\nsmooth\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nUNLIKE YOU, I studied real science from a young age\r\n\r\nUNLIKE YOU, I have a full time job to clock into in 5 hours - with overtime on Sunday\r\n\r\nI don't have time for your shit\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-27 12:13:57","modified":"2013-11-11 00:35:18","fileurl":""},{"id":134518,"heading":"agian, Mr. Whizzard","article":"Re read your own babble and show me that>\r\n=", something you called "Tesla" which you then changed to say radio, then AC power, then changed to denying you ever said it, then denied power = energy.."-\r\nAs I said before, let the reader decide for themself without your particular brand of Whizz babble interpretations. ( just like fresca! )\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2005\/08\/134202.php\r\nAnd...\r\nWasting your time is a choice your of your own. Deal with it. \r\n I'll be back...","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-27 13:04:53","modified":"2005-08-27 13:04:53","fileurl":""},{"id":134521,"heading":"'cause...","article":"This is the consequence of information warfare. I don't need to expend a whole lot of energy to offer information.\r\nOnce out, it provides a platform for independent research. You, on the other hand, suffer a tactical disadvantage and require manhour resources I don't. \r\nGot to run.\r\nHave fun.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-27 13:12:04","modified":"2005-08-27 13:12:04","fileurl":""},{"id":134528,"heading":"stupidity v accomplishment","article":"my "disadvantage" is money well earned (as opposed to living off of other people's taxes) that I freely choose to engage in which becomes money well spent for things like ;\r\n\r\nblank DVD's & CD's\r\nnetworking equipment to expand the system\r\ninternet access (working on shared broadband)\r\nelectronic parts and solder\r\n\r\n\r\nfree movies, free CD's, free public internet access, free radio\r\n\r\nthat I offer with the proceeds..\r\n\r\ndoing things you are unwilling and unable to do (offer info and data on other's terms not just your own, free entertainment\/internet\/radio, don't know how to do networking, design and build circuits, etc, don't know real science, can't offer useful technical advice, only pie-in-the-sky pipe dreams at best which are useless)\r\n\r\nall you do is collect flake shit and spam it\r\n\r\n\r\nI do all these things for all these reasons and manage my time between priorities to accomplish far more with the same 24 hour day (I'm riding a bike back from work 3 times a week as well too now)\r\n\r\nyou can keep your "advantage"\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-27 15:21:33","modified":"2005-08-27 15:21:33","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/information_warfare.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/information_warfare.jpg"}},{"id":134532,"heading":"living off of other people's taxes)","article":"Only freeloaders don't pay taxes.\r\nLike 'you' and the wealthy. ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-27 16:12:36","modified":"2005-08-27 16:12:36","fileurl":""},{"id":134540,"heading":"Addendum","article":"Did 'you' type this?[ all spelling left uncorrected to reduce 'noise'.] \r\n*** $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$***\r\nstop paying taxes \r\nby Hex Sunday, Jul. 31, 2005 at 7:23 AM \r\n \r\nit's our taxes that feed the system - a real way to cause change is to stop the flow of money the system depends on to survive - \r\n***$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$***\r\n[ SD-And then, this diatribe - ] \r\n***$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$*** \r\n-but doing this threatens our lifestyle \r\n \r\nby not being willing to change our lifestyle and stop feeding the system we are actually doing nothing effective otherwise, excepting feel-good activities that only serve our own needs to make it ok to actually effectively be doing nothing \r\n \r\nmost activists aren't even willing to break any laws at all that risk thier own personal concerns and effects, like say illegal broadcasting, then have the gall to look down upon and exclude the very few who do, showing that the social dynamics of the activist movement are really just a mirror of society at large - \r\n**** $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$***\r\n[ And all this from a guy who thinks Westinghouse 'invented' AC current, instead of incorporating the true Genius of Tesla into the same weasel greed machinery of such captains of industry as Westinghouse and Rockefeller... And never, never heard of Tesla after he built, by hand, mind you in his own time, while supporting his mom ...on his bike, while assaulting other students with acid... this powerfull yet undiclosed radio station] \r\nDo you guys come up with your own script? This is good stuff. \r\nNot. \r\nPS. \r\nOkay, Mr. Whizzard \r\nNow, do go on ( and on and on...) into another rant about 'Tesla energy'.... chuckle.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-27 20:45:56","modified":"2005-08-27 20:45:56","fileurl":""},{"id":134547,"heading":"Like 'you'","article":"funny my pay stubs and sales reciepts show otherwise\r\n\r\n\r\nspeaking of freeloaders - say people who *don't work* and simply live off of social benefits typically 5 times more than what they paid into the system - LIKE YOU, going around throwing the "freeloader" label - to a person like me *working a full time job* is the height of hypocrsy.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> a guy who thinks Westinghouse 'invented' AC current, instead of incorporating the true Genius of Tesla \r\n\r\n\r\nI said westinghouse is the one responsible FOR the AC power we use today - he make it *practical* - he started installing AC power generators and systems. He holds the patents on it, he invented the AC power meter we still use today (design unchanged)\r\n\r\nThe "genius" of Tesla didn't do any of those things - if it were left up to Tesla AC power would only be a drawing on a piece of paper and we would be using Edison's DC power\r\n\r\nThis is a discussion we've had before - about being practical v a dreamer - like Tesla's "run on anything" motor which never saw the light of day either. AC power didn't either *until Westinghouse stepped in and *IMPLIMENTED IT*\r\n\r\nThere's a huge difference between an idea and a working model, and a huge difference between a prototype and equipment *actually in use* helping people.\r\n\r\nBut that's not really the point anyway - the point is your lack of knowledge in basic science leads you to swallow any claim then spam it here as fact\r\n\r\nA lack you've demostrated time after time on here.\r\n\r\nThe claims for Tesla alone -\r\n\r\n1.) Tesla energy\r\n2.) is magnetic energy\r\n3.) is electromagnetic energy\r\n4.) is AC power\r\n\r\nTesla energy doesn't exist - elementary school science teaches that\r\n\r\nSo a guy with not even basic scientific knowledge is going around spamming disinformation then attacking using his "information warfare" bullshit games anyone who posts the truth\r\n\r\nheat-light-magnetism-chemical-nuclear \r\nmagnetic energy - Oersteds, Gauss\r\nRadio - Hertz\r\nAC power - Westinghouse \r\n\r\nplaying word games, using more smoke & mirrors, changing the subject, doing anything to cover up the simple truth - you don't know even basic science and are unqualified to be dispensing "information", that in reality you are a flake shit spammer - a charlton, a quack, a snake oil salesman and nothing more\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n"he built, by hand, mind you in his own time, while supporting his mom ...on his bike, while assaulting other students with acid... this powerfull yet undiclosed radio station] \r\nDo you guys come up with your own script? This is good stuff."\r\n\r\nembellished\r\n\r\nI've designed and built many many transmitters over the years, the station in use now is simply the most up to date - the signal goes even further than I thought BTW, it covers all of downtown (which I didn't intend) my mom has nothing to do with anything - she lives far away, and yes I ride a bike (unbelievable !), I did throw a vial of acid on a kid in school, the station isn't powerful - I don't want it to be too keep the FCC out of the picture - ditto for not pointing it out to YOU\r\n\r\nhey I did post a stream grab for you which is from a FM tuner patched to the encoder - it's not my fault *your too stupid to play it*\r\n\r\nhere's a shot of my "imaginary" antennas for the "imaginary" stations - from the about us web page of our web server\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-28 11:41:24","modified":"2005-08-28 11:41:24","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/ant-m.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/ant-m.jpg"}},{"id":134552,"heading":"didn't quite get that","article":"'*your too stupid '\r\nThanks again, Mr. Whizzard.\r\n:>)","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-28 12:00:57","modified":"2005-08-28 12:00:57","fileurl":""},{"id":134554,"heading":"the dwindling reply","article":"when confronted with the truth your retort shrinks down to nothing\r\n\r\nthanks for all the "information" - that was very comprehensive and informative\r\n\r\n\r\nI also have schematics of the entire transmitter chain (my own original design I could PATENT if I wanted to - especially the stereo exciter, Orban goes on & on about his audio processor designs - I do exactly the same type of design, applying a blend of psychoacoustics both in-circuit and taking advantage of the psychoacoustics in MP3's, combined with the unique challenge of wide-band FM modulation with special emphasis on the stereo subcarrier's modulation characteristics)\r\n\r\nWhen I reviewed Robert's documents on his designs I saw my own design elements - I could go work for Orban or start a business on my own based on the same model.\r\n\r\nThe proof is in my signal - listening to the audio quality of the station you'll hear the sound of multi-thousand dollar audio processing equipment, but with even lower distortion because I use CDS cells for gain control in several stages which gives the sound a very soft\/smooth "tube like" sound, an unusually clear midrange superimposed on the bass (most stations have some intermodulation distortion between the bass & midrange, plus they allow some THD as well to maximize the loudness within the constraints of deviation allowance (75.khz)\r\n\r\nI can post a HQ clip of the station's sound if you like so you can hear for yourself what I mean. I achieve the sound of the very best DSP based audio processors with my design, which is far simpler and cheaper (I traded complexity and silicon for extremely careful hand-tuning - my time for additional circuits)\r\n\r\nTHIS is what I'm actually proud of - not the transmitter but the stereo exciter which is the really difficult and complicated part.\r\n\r\nAnyone can build a transmitter, they sell kits for even novices with no understanding of how they work to build - even you could do it..\r\n\r\nThey do not have decrete stereo exciter kits because they require extremely critical adjustments and expensive test equipment to tune.\r\n\r\nI have a full understanding of them, and am able to use my ears (and a software-based spectrum analyser running on a computer) to impliment them.\r\n\r\nThe sound quality is directly derived from my own sense of hearing, and with several stages ganged this means that in order for the final sound to be good *each stage has to be several times better* than average to that the total result is not only acceptable but great.\r\n\r\nSince I use my own ears to design, adjust and tune these stages and the sum is still very high quality, this should tell you something about how good my hearing is... \r\n\r\n\r\nThe stream clip has been transcoded to a rather low quality bitrate with fake treble (SBR) yet the extra high sound quality STILL comes through - when compared to other stations on the aire - who use very expensive equipment but which is adjusted improperly due to 2 reasons\r\n\r\n1.) they are trying to be as loud as possible within modulation constraints\r\n2.) the person doing the adjustments (usually the station engineer) doesn't have very goo hearing (usually elderly but even if not he doesn't *always protect his ears with earplugs like I do*)\r\n\r\nI'm very strict about protecting my hearing in any situation where the sound pressure level exceeds 50-60.dB's which is a stricter standard than what's considered the threshold for hearing damage. I always wear ear plugs at work for example, always wear full size closed cup headphones at a live venue and religiously avoid high pressure level situtations like fireworks, gunshots, etc.\r\n\r\nThe only fireworks I made were quiet types, when I made explosions I always covered my ears, etc.. With very rare exceptions\r\n\r\nIt's a lower pressure level over time that matters most (like an 8 hour work shift) rather than an instantaneous level although avoiding that is important too. The average level over time is what really damages your hearing..\r\n\r\nThis is why I design and build audio circuits (starting with power amps in the 80's) and why stereo exciters represent the highest achievement of this ability - because they require a blend of audio quality v psychoacoustics v modulation constraints..\r\n\r\n\r\nSo if you wish to disbelieve anything to do with my radio work, disbelieve THAT\r\n\r\nI can provide schematics and pictures RIGHT NOW to back this up - like the scale drawings\/blueprints and pictures of your "solar collector" ?\r\n\r\nhell it's no wonder you think other people make things up - because YOU DO\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.orban.com\/\r\n\r\nI do this exact same design using my own unique circuits, ideas and tuning - read about it on this website and discover how complicated stereo transmitting really is - Robert has it all laid out, I impliment all of these techniques excepting phase rotation which I dislike (and engineers often disable)\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-28 13:11:24","modified":"2005-08-28 13:11:24","fileurl":""},{"id":134555,"heading":"just wondering, Mr. Whizz...","article":"Did you type this?\r\n$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ \r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2005\/06\/130407_comment.php#130845 \r\n-"let a "devisive troll" explain \r\nby Hex Monday, Jun. 27, 2005 at 2:23 AM \r\n \r\n> cultures that are not white. \r\n \r\n I'm not white - \r\n[or] \r\n here's the clean miss Hex anon w\/ encryption 2003-09-09 12:02 AM \r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2003\/09\/80694_comment.php#81812 \r\n \r\n[photo of....?] \r\n \r\n$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ \r\nSD-Did you type this?^ \r\nSo... you are a...composit? .>) \r\n$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ \r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/gif","created":"2005-08-28 13:26:20","modified":"2005-08-28 13:26:20","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/hex-file-_pic__personal-df107__.gif","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/hex-file-_pic__personal-df107__.gif"}},{"id":134556,"heading":"that's right - and wrong","article":"I'm American Indian\r\n\r\ncan you TELL from a picture ?\r\n\r\nand what does this have to do with stereo modulation, or Tesla for that matter ?\r\n\r\nI still have YOUR picture - the embarrassing one were you look like a punk rocker\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-28 13:31:14","modified":"2005-08-28 13:31:14","fileurl":""},{"id":134557,"heading":"that took about 20 min","article":"Have fun.\r\nI'd like to see if you were joshing me, that's all.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-28 13:35:18","modified":"2005-08-28 13:35:18","fileurl":""},{"id":134558,"heading":"Awwww","article":"Geez all ya has to do is ask...\r\nA picture of me AND my family.\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2003\/04\/49088.php\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/gif","created":"2005-08-28 13:38:45","modified":"2005-08-28 13:38:45","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/sheepdog2gif.gif","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/sheepdog2gif.gif"}},{"id":134582,"heading":"managed time","article":"I DO do other things - just came back from the hardware store for example where I bought a thermometer (made in china the cheap bastards)\r\n\r\nthat dog doesn't look like a punk rocker\r\n\r\ndo read about the optimod audio processors and you'll be looking at almost exactly what I design - if you ask me technical questions about stereo modulation like hard composite limiting v soft cornered compression combined with tracking high frequency limiting I can answer IN DETAIL the pro's and con's beyond what Orban does (he only addresses spillage and separation in the static sense without touching on psychoacoustical effects like temporal masking and dynamics - in other words his designs largely ignore psychoacoustics whereas mine incorporate them to gain more advantage in percieved clairity)\r\n\r\nsome of my design elements naturally add temporal masking due to thier inherent characteristics - this adds another dimention to the concept of in-circuit psychoacoustical effects, by design.\r\n\r\nI figured out these methods by doing a series of experiments building on my "ultra bass booster" design from the 80's I used to offer when I worked at car stereo shops (which was a poor-man's replacement for the expensive "epicenter" enhancer)\r\n\r\nThis design element when applied to stereo separation and high frequency limiters adds a natural psychoacoustical gain curve which when the gain span is adjusted properly almost perfectly matches temporal masking curves.\r\n\r\nThis is the single biggest reason why my design manages to to give such high sound quality without the complexity, expense or *signal delay* Orban's designs suffer from.\r\n\r\nIn these criteria my designs are superior to his..\r\n\r\nOrban admits his designs suffer from processing delay enough to make live monitoring impossible with under processing mode, whereas my designs have *no delay at all* !\r\n\r\n(this means when your station audio runs through his box when you try to listen to yourself in headphones talking or singing you'll hear a confusing echo that makes it very difficult to keep from stuttering)\r\n\r\nMy box has no delay and doesn't suffer from this problem because all the stages are fully analog with no digital processing, with CDS cells taking the place of digital pads that have very carefully adjusted gain scales that take advantage of the inherent attack and decay rates.\r\n\r\nA very clever design if I do say so myself - but one which requires expert knowledge of both psychoacoustics and audio and general circuit design.\r\n\r\nOrban is starting to use psychoacoustics in his newest boxes but I've been using them for years - with analog circuit elements to boot\r\n\r\n(analog circuits have no delay problems and yield a more natural sound so say some people who like vinyl over CD, tube over transistor. I don't actually agree but do see what they are driving at, and impliment these factors in my designs for that same "natural sound" they like so much)\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-28 14:40:45","modified":"2005-08-28 14:40:45","fileurl":""},{"id":134584,"heading":"here's your forte' I BELIEVE","article":"repost to check animation - looks like it's working now\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/gif","created":"2005-08-28 15:32:47","modified":"2005-08-28 15:32:47","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/flake_spam.gif4nkp9d.gif","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/flake_spam.gif4nkp9d.gif"}},{"id":134585,"heading":"maybe that GIF is bad","article":"this monkey one works..\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/gif","created":"2005-08-28 15:35:11","modified":"2005-08-28 15:35:11","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/monkey_typing.gif","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/monkey_typing.gif"}},{"id":134590,"heading":"' that dog doesn't look like a punk rocker '","article":"Very Good.\r\nThat's 'cause it isn't one. \r\nThat's Sheepdog (me) and you're confusing me with someone else.\r\nAgain.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-28 18:44:28","modified":"2005-08-28 18:44:28","fileurl":""},{"id":134599,"heading":"confusing me with someone else","article":"care to argue that point with the wayback machine ?\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 01:52:17","modified":"2005-08-29 01:52:17","fileurl":""},{"id":134601,"heading":"You can ride it yourself","article":"But... \r\nFeel free to indulge yourself. \r\nI'll watch. ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 02:22:12","modified":"2005-08-29 02:22:12","fileurl":""},{"id":134603,"heading":"you know the wayback machine","article":"is what brought you Jon's web page that www.whatreallyhappened.org was looking for that I posted which blew the CNN story out of the water\r\n\r\nwhen you posted your old picture titled billder it took a snapshot...\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 02:42:18","modified":"2005-08-29 02:42:18","fileurl":""},{"id":134605,"heading":"You're incorrect","article":"still aint me. \r\nWhere exactly do you get these notions of omnipotence? \r\nYou have confused me again with that guy with the tattoo. I'd be really stupid to have identifying ink on me. Unlike my brother who had Harley Davidson ( the moron) done on his arm... \r\nBut do go on. I've got my seat here in the front.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 02:54:32","modified":"2005-08-29 02:54:32","fileurl":""},{"id":134606,"heading":"a couple of signs","article":"1.) you know all about it and him\r\n2.) you react to the exposure\r\n3.) you and him never post concordantly, yet ;\r\n4.) you both post exactly the same things and exactly the same links\r\n5.) you exploded when I posted a comment making fun of him (about water being dangerous)\r\n\r\nso then - are you his evil twin or just a clone ?\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 03:04:49","modified":"2005-08-29 03:04:49","fileurl":""},{"id":134607,"heading":"exactly the same links","article":"guess I can't help being paralelled. Still aint me.\r\nwhat links, dude?\r\nShow me the meat. With URLs\r\nRemember the debacle you got involved with, calling on my 'hidden comments'? Have fun.\r\n:>)","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 03:10:29","modified":"2005-08-29 03:10:29","fileurl":""},{"id":134608,"heading":"Addendum2","article":"Are you refering to similar Google searches? Maybe that's your mistake. I know it's hard for you sometimes to understand.\r\nIf not for the omnipotent factor, that is. ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 03:16:46","modified":"2005-08-29 03:16:46","fileurl":""},{"id":134609,"heading":"welcome to my home","article":"> debacle you got involved with, calling on my 'hidden comments'?\r\n\r\n\r\nwhat "debacle" ? You proved the point for me yourself - you posted just some of the many hidden *threads* (not comments)\r\n\r\n\r\nthe point being -\r\n\r\nhow many threads of yours have been hidden ?\r\n\r\n(many)\r\n\r\nhow many of MY threads ?\r\n\r\nnone\r\n\r\nhow many threads do I post anyway ? \r\n\r\n(very few - I almost always only add comments)\r\n\r\nnone of these facts are in contention so how is it a "debacle" ?\r\n\r\n\r\nthe fact that your threads get hidden yet you keep posting them anyway means you're a SPAMMER\r\n\r\nyou acknowledged that yourself - and framed it as part of your "information warfare" tactic - great ! so your abusive to IMC as well..\r\n\r\n\r\nI pointed out that I attempt to do none of those things\r\n\r\n1.) try not to post threads\r\n2.) try not to be abusive\r\n3.) try not to offend\r\n4.) try not to cause the admin extra effort or annoyance\r\n5.) try not to waste bandwidth\r\n6.) try not to post untruths - inaccurate information\r\n\r\nyou should think of being here as like being a visitor in someone's home, would you spray paint graphitti on the livingroom walls ? and keep doing it over & over when they paint it over ? WHICH MEANS THEY DON'T LIKE IT.\r\n\r\ndo they have to lock the door on all of us just to keep you out ? or tolerate your graphitti for our sake and just keep painting it over...\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 03:31:50","modified":"2005-08-29 03:31:50","fileurl":""},{"id":134610,"heading":"Addendum3","article":"A minor comment on Information Warfare. \r\nFrom the enemy point of view.\r\nThe amount of reactionary psyops must be proportionally higher to the amount of uncontrolled information to slow the information flare. The tactics evolved, i,e. derailing and flame war approaches up to the present have seen adaptation by a growing sophistication of an informed readership. \r\nThis leaves the enemy to evolve new tactics. \r\nLike constructing a credible gatekeeper.\r\nThe keyword being credible, Mr. Whizzard.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 03:33:11","modified":"2005-08-29 03:33:11","fileurl":""},{"id":134611,"heading":""show me the links"","article":"so if you walk in the livingroom wearing different masks and costumes but spray paint *exactly the same graphitti* on the walls you think no one will know it's you ?\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 03:34:43","modified":"2005-08-29 03:34:43","fileurl":""},{"id":134612,"heading":""MY graphitti doesn't stink"","article":"> the enemy \/ derailing and flame war \/ the enemy \r\n\r\nso if the graphitti is in a military camo pattern that makes it okay ?\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 03:39:45","modified":"2005-08-29 03:39:45","fileurl":""},{"id":134613,"heading":"Interested in it","article":"you're telling me< I> waste BW? \r\nHow mean of you to infer this. (choke- sniffle-)\r\n:>(\r\nStill no meat eh?\r\nDreadful pity.\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 03:47:00","modified":"2005-08-29 03:47:00","fileurl":""},{"id":134614,"heading":"infer","article":"let's review ;\r\n\r\nyou walk in wearing a mask and costume\r\n\r\nyou spray paint your graphitti on IMC's walls\r\n\r\nthey paint it over\r\n\r\nyou do it again\r\n\r\nthey paint it over again\r\n\r\nad infinum\r\n\r\nthe graphitti costs money, painting it over costs time & effort - the money is already spent by your posting it \r\n\r\nthe proof is in the hiding\r\n\r\nwhats to infer ?\r\n\r\n\r\nI post comments - that costs them money too.\r\n\r\nhopefully I add something of value to at least try to comphensate for the cost. (really any regular contributer should donate some money though)\r\n\r\nif they are hiding your threads that means you're costing them money and you *definately don't comphensate* as far as they're concerned, and in fact additionally cost them time and effort as well...\r\n\r\nbut that's okay with you as long as it serves YOUR needs for "information warfare"...\r\n\r\nand the best you can come with as a thank-you is to be sarcastic\r\n\r\nthey just spent a shitload of money to rebuild this newswire - more money than *I* could afford (all my equipment is poor-man's throwaways - things other people throw in the trash)\r\n\r\naround 3 or 4 weeks pay which mostly goes for rent and food...\r\n\r\nIf it was *my* IMC it would have taken me months to save up enough money on my budget to bring it back.\r\n\r\nI could barely even afford the pipe (symetric commercial DSL)\r\n\r\nI'd be pissed off if I was in thier shoes and you spammed the newswire on my dime..\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 04:06:38","modified":"2005-08-29 04:06:38","fileurl":""},{"id":134615,"heading":"value added","article":"-' I add something of value'-\r\nYou mean like the typing monkey gifs?\r\nOr the cheetoes girl?\r\nSure shows me up.\r\nAnd hey, I try to donate but johnk hasn't got the page set up yet.\r\n\r\nSorry pal, give me an address, and I'll send youse guys a money order.\r\nPay Pal = evil.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 04:19:05","modified":"2005-08-29 04:19:05","fileurl":""},{"id":134618,"heading":"Hey IMC folk","article":"Didn't you have the donate page working a while back; before the upgrades?\r\nDamnit.\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 04:32:15","modified":"2005-08-29 04:32:15","fileurl":""},{"id":134619,"heading":"FIX THE DONATE PAGE, PEOPLE... thank you","article":"did you type this?\r\n***\r\n \r\nwelcome to my home \r\nby Hex Saturday, Aug. 27, 2005 at 3:31 PM \r\nsnip \r\n- how many threads do I post anyway ? \r\n \r\n(very few - I almost always only add comments) \r\n \r\nnone of these facts are in contention so how is it a "debacle" ? \r\n \r\n \r\nthe fact that your threads get hidden yet you keep posting them anyway means you're a SPAMMER \r\n \r\nyou acknowledged that yourself - and framed it as part of your "information warfare" tactic - great ! so your abusive to IMC as well.. \r\n \r\n \r\nI pointed out that I attempt to do none of those things \r\n \r\n1.) try not to post threads \r\n2.) try not to be abusive \r\n3.) try not to offend \r\n4.) try not to cause the admin extra effort or annoyance \r\n5.) try not to waste bandwidth \r\n6.) try not to post untruths - inaccurate information-\r\n\r\n(?)\r\n\r\nwhew....\r\neverything's relative, absolutly.\r\n\r\neverything's relative, absolutely. Now, for some cryptic comment. \r\n:>) По-русски! \r\n \r\nТанцулька идет дальше!","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 04:54:00","modified":"2005-08-29 04:54:00","fileurl":""},{"id":134620,"heading":"the proof is in the hiding","article":"I made this as an artistic statement - my form of artwork ^\r\n\r\n\r\n> typing monkey\/cheetoes girl?\r\n\r\n> Sure shows me up.\r\n\r\n\r\nare they HIDDEN ?\r\n\r\n\r\nquestion answered..\r\n\r\n\r\ntry donating TRUTH - see if that gets hidden, see if you can send that successfully\r\n\r\nor will it be paid lies ?\r\n\r\nlike a commercial\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-29 04:57:02","modified":"2005-08-29 04:57:02","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/scanning_electron_micrograph_derived_hexs_art.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/scanning_electron_micrograph_derived_hexs_art.jpg"}},{"id":134621,"heading":"did the sun rise today","article":"no a ghost typed it\r\n\r\nall things are relative\r\n\r\nall relatives are things\r\n\r\nmy relatives took all my things\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nI just noticed something else - the pictures are re-sized automagicly to keep the page from stretching out\r\n\r\nthat picture is my idea of beauty - both the form and colors (the form is from nature but at a micro level too small to see without extreme magnification, and I picked and laid out the colors, blue being my favorite color.) A picture like this is as close to conventional art as I get..\r\n\r\nthis one is an offset version which was my second best choice\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-29 05:12:56","modified":"2005-08-29 05:12:56","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/offset.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/offset.jpg"}},{"id":134622,"heading":" 5.) try not to waste bandwidth","article":" \r\nDreadful hypocrisy even if it is beautiful. \r\nI am only posting on this thread. simple text. \r\nDo you know how much BW you have used in such a recent compressed time frame? \r\nTo the somehow still curious ( or caught in some Voyeuristic death grip ) reader... \r\nGo to the [More Local News] link, open a new window and type [ Hex ] into the upper frame box where author is listed. \r\nThen open the number displayed in the box next to [Sort BY] by dragging down to 200. Don't forget to click the comments box on. \r\nTell me about number 5.) Hex. \r\nNote to weary reader ( who isn't suffering an expresso rush) this always gets funny as Mr. Whizzard takes another pearl dive. \r\nHave heart.\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 05:27:16","modified":"2005-08-29 05:27:16","fileurl":""},{"id":134623,"heading":"and the word HIDDEN","article":"never crosses his lips or keyboard\r\n\r\nmy graphitti isn't being painted over..\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-29 06:47:45","modified":"2005-08-29 06:47:45","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/get_it.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/get_it.jpg"}},{"id":134630,"heading":"Okay, so not always funny","article":"Sometime just incoherent, trailing off on some unrelated side issue of your own.\r\nNot an effective approach.\r\n\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 11:37:39","modified":"2005-08-29 11:37:39","fileurl":""},{"id":134631,"heading":"...steering back into the lane, missing mom by 1\/2 inch","article":"This thread, aside from its perverse personal Entertainment Value brings to mind a few interesting issues. \r\nIs the increasing background radiation levels accounting for epidemiological mutation? In animals as well as plants. \r\nThis is a serious issue despite the Whizzards work in progress. \r\n \r\nThink of the huge amount of radiological waste from the nuclear industry that is litterally being dumped into OUR environment. Gulf war sickness could make the gas casualties of WW1 seem mild. For everyone.\r\n \r\nFor fucking ever.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 12:08:29","modified":"2005-08-29 12:08:29","fileurl":""},{"id":134632,"heading":"Type in [Results 1 - 10 of about 1,820,000 for increasing background radiation levels. ]","article":"Interesting times, eh?","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 12:16:23","modified":"2005-08-29 12:16:23","fileurl":""},{"id":134633,"heading":"blood for spit ?","article":"See here sheepdog\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.breitbart.com\/news\/2005\/08\/27\/D8C88SP80.html\r\n\r\nYou owe $145,000. And the bill is rising every day. That's how much it would cost every American man, woman and child to pay the tab for the long-term promises the U.S. government has made to creditors, retirees, veterans and the poor. \r\n\r\n\r\n*I* am a working man who has NEVER recieved any form of assistance - I've always worked for a living, so that $ 145,000 is fully on my head\r\n\r\nYOU are a retiree, a veteran - one of the person's responsible for that debt hanging over MY head. A person who is getting 5 times the benefits you paid into yourself - *I make up the other 4* out of my payroll taxes - benefits *I will never see because the social security system is going bankrupt and being raided as we speak by bush et al*\r\n\r\n\r\nSo while you sit around all day spamming flake shit on your DSL *my taxes pay for* I have to go to work and can spend only limited time on my dial-up. I have to work today - Sunday too, to make ends meet. I only have 1 day off a week.. \r\n\r\n1 out of every 6 days I work goes simply to pay taxes..\r\n\r\nYour "information warfare" appearantly includes sucking the lifeblood out of others then spitting in thier faces to show your appreciation..\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 12:24:52","modified":"2005-08-29 12:24:52","fileurl":""},{"id":134634,"heading":"further thoughts","article":"Results 1 - 10 of about 33,700 for epidemiological mutation + background +radiation. \r\n\r\nIf anyone is ... interested.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 12:25:36","modified":"2005-08-29 12:25:36","fileurl":""},{"id":134635,"heading":"didn't bother, Whizzer...","article":":>) \r\nIt's kinda like 'don't care- don't ask' \r\nchuckle \r\nbut if you want you could fold the website up until the corners are sharp \r\nhttp:\/\/www.breitbart.com\/news\/2005\/08\/27\/D8C88SP80.html \r\nand, with a large stamping and seizing module, position it where the daylight never touches. \r\n:>) \r\n \r\nWhat could possible keep you up all night on this, in your own judgment, silly thread? \r\n \r\nA raw nerve being pissed on? \r\nDoes it hurt?\r\nCan I help?","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 12:41:49","modified":"2005-08-29 12:41:49","fileurl":""},{"id":134637,"heading":"maybe this will help","article":"Hazards from alpha irradiation of tracheobronchial lymphatic tissue from inhaled and translocated Depleted Uranium \r\n \r\n The Uranium in armour piercing weapons burns on impact, forming insoluble ceramic particles of Uranium Oxide. This provides a radiation exposure route which can be expected to have serious effects on the lymph system (known to be a critical organ for leukaemogenesis1) without Uranium having to be ingested in quantities sufficient to cause heavy metal poisoning. \r\n \r\n Particles in the size range 0.1 microns to [say] 5 microns are easily transported in air and can be resuspended. They are small enough to cross the lung wall when inhaled, and are scavenged to the lymph nodes. \r\n \r\n We are aware of no measurements of Uranium dose to lymphatic tissue specifically but post mortem analyses2,3 of Plutonium show high concentrations in the tracheo-bronchial lymph nodes (in one subject2, the TBLNs had concentrated the Plutonium to values 40 times higher than the lungs; these tiny pieces of tissue, weighing 16.5 grammes, contained 17.5% of the Plutonium 239 in the entire body). - \r\nhttp:\/\/www.llrc.org\/du\/subtopic\/duparticletable.htm \r\n \r\nNow consider the quantity of munitions involved in the 'soft' nuclear war we and our children will inherit. \r\nsearch engines are total... \r\nI like this deeplink: \r\nhttp:\/\/dmoz.org\/Society\/Issues\/Warfare_and_Conflict\/Weapons\/Depleted_Uranium\/","author":"sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 13:25:33","modified":"2005-08-29 13:25:33","fileurl":""},{"id":134639,"heading":"more spittle - and a subject change !","article":"> keep you up all night on this,\r\n\r\nI worked & slept - I wasn't "up all night"\r\n\r\nI came back from work - did some more posting, got a good night's rest (for me - my second shift day is shifted) and got up and am posting now\r\n\r\nbetween breaks in installing a new hot water heater\r\n\r\ncheck the timestamps\r\n\r\nand I thought you didn't believe in googling ? didn't you just post some disparging remark above about me using it ?\r\n\r\nUranium is all fine & dandy but basic science teaches about the *atomic weight* of Uranium and it's *chemical properties*\r\n\r\nUranium can't travel around the world\r\n\r\nin order for an isotope to spread around it either has to be dispersed (vaporized at extreme temps) or chemically combine with other elements\r\n\r\nand you (or your source) for "plant & animal mutations on the rise due to Uranium" thousands of miles away non-fission\/fusion involved only shows your ignorance of basic science - again\r\n\r\nnow your story changes to Uranium over there doing things over there, and other isotopes leaking into the conversation\r\n\r\nthat same old twisting dwindling routine\r\n\r\nsheepdog's little one-step..\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 14:15:23","modified":"2005-08-29 14:15:23","fileurl":""},{"id":134641,"heading":" Uranium can't travel around the world","article":"so you're saying that their air and particulate ( most of which are below the 1 mircron cross section ) suspensions... stay over there. \r\n \r\nLike they said at Chernoble. \r\nThat is, until the Swedish radiation counters began to scream. You're dealing in degrees of contamination, only. \r\nI'd laugh at you but it's so damn sad. \r\n\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 14:41:44","modified":"2005-08-29 14:41:44","fileurl":""},{"id":134642,"heading":"are you certain....","article":"this is good... you don't even read your own script.\r\n-' has to be dispersed (vaporized at extreme temps)'-\r\nWhat the hell are you talking about?\r\nThat's exactly what U238 DOES when it is used.\r\nWell above 10k centagade, if it hits steel\/ceramic.\r\nChrist.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 14:52:40","modified":"2005-08-29 14:52:40","fileurl":""},{"id":134643,"heading":"jesus are you really THAT dumb ?","article":"> Like they said at Chernoble\r\n\r\num- FISSION\r\n\r\n\r\narmorments are NOT fission or fusion\r\n\r\n\r\nthe reason dumbass is because the isotope undergoes atomic conversion to other related isotopes as a "brew" of different elements related by atomic decay products\r\n\r\nthis and the *millions of degrees* binds the radioactivity to other natural\/enviromental elements - which act as the bio-carriers..\r\n\r\n\r\nUranium is too heavy - even as dust quickly falls to the ground NOT TO MENTION only very mildly radioactive to begin with (compared to *related isotopes and decay products*) so there's no bioactivity concerning Uranium beyond a confined area around the release point since it's not chemically reactive like salt it can't dissolve in any quanity in say WATER for example..\r\n\r\nWhen an isotope sets out to contaminate the world it must either be dispersed in a reactor\/bomb (fission or fusion) or it must dissolve easyly, or combine easyly with something that does..\r\n\r\nUranium is worse than lead - do you go around saying LEAD is killing us all ?\r\n\r\nAre you spamming the warning that our car batteries, paint, solder are contaminating us ?\r\n\r\nHeavy unreactive things don't travel far - not around the world (a car battery in Russia is killing me)\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd because of this considering the distance of the release point, the sun gives us hundreds of times more radiation already..\r\n\r\nIf the Uranium was being fired HERE, or if it involved fission\/fusion - reactors or bombs - it would be a different story\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nYour ignorance is staggering\r\n\r\n\r\nplease go to school - you missed it\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 15:11:01","modified":"2005-08-29 15:11:01","fileurl":""},{"id":134644,"heading":"getting funny now.....","article":"http:\/\/www.greens.org\/s-r\/15\/15-20.html \r\nThe US Department of Defense has more than 1.1 billion pounds of nuclear waste in storage from 50 years of nuclear weapons production and nuclear power plants. The government, hemmed in by public opposition, health and environmental movements, is always trying to find new "acceptable" ways to dispose of it. It has apparently found one.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-08-29 15:54:08","modified":"2005-08-29 15:54:08","fileurl":""},{"id":134649,"heading":"that car battery is killing me again - funny","article":"in storage - as in storage battery\r\n\r\nmuch of the worst (which is all that could matter) is underground in deep mines, in any case in bunkers in remote areas..\r\n\r\nIf you hit a storage facility with a bomb...\r\n\r\notherwise the sun - being funny - is hundreds of times stronger AGAIN\r\n\r\nha ha - funny\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-08-29 17:15:25","modified":"2005-08-29 17:15:25","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/artisticly_pleasing_jar_arrangement.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/artisticly_pleasing_jar_arrangement.jpg"}},{"id":134664,"heading":"Display fun","article":"' Heavy unreactive things don't travel far ' \r\n{ but the by-products, in .1 micron oxides, do, by active transport.} \r\n \r\n Mr. Whizzard. \r\nOur dedicated and indefatigable gatekeeper. All things pass through the scientific bowels of this devise. Sometimes there is pain as is normal, if unpleasant. \r\nYes, it's intentional. Just grab the bar and strain. \r\nDoing a bit of graphic digging for Whizz, since this seems to help him focus. \r\nplus some references. \r\n - [ The satellite discussed in this feature] Terra circles the Earth from pole to pole, 16 times every day. \r\n \r\n"With these new observations you clearly see that air pollution is much more than a local problem \r\nhttp:\/\/www.gsfc.nasa.gov\/gsfc\/earth\/terra\/co.htm \r\n \r\nThis simply means that the radioactive pollution ( you may wish to quibble about gamma, beta or alpha sources, Mr. Whizz, but woot; there it is...) is only DILUTED as we enjoy the increasing heat. \r\n[Dear reader, this is exactly why open air testing was banned]\r\n\r\nAnd our sun, the other radiation source you slime use to relativise this issue, that little, main sequence G, is way................over there. 8 or so light minutes. Are you going to lecture me on solar wind? I'll put in some popcorn. ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":134462,"mime_type":"image\/gif","created":"2005-08-30 11:02:22","modified":"2005-08-30 11:02:22","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/-transport-30.gif","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/08\/-transport-30.gif"}}]}