{"article":{"id":133284,"heading":"Jim Gilchrist to Again Join Stormfront in Laguna Beach","author":"stopsosnow","created":"2005-07-21 02:23:14","modified":"2005-08-15 00:15:14","last_modified":"Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:15:14","article":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><br>  <br> PMEmail PosterYahoo <br>  <br> Top <br>  <br> OCAngel \t <br>  <br> Posted on Jul 19 2005, 08:39 PM <br>  <br> Quote Post <br><br>  <br>  <br> Patriot <br>  <br> ***** <br><br> Group: Members <br>  <br> Posts: 279 <br>  <br> Member No.: 521 <br>  <br> Joined: 12-May 05 <br><br>  <br><br> \t <br>  <br> Joe, We just came back from the Laguna Beach city council meeting. It was interesting. We had 6 people show in support and 4 spoke. The highlight was when Jim Gilchrist walked in, but he got there just as they shut down the public communications. <br><br> There are some things we need to talk about, but not through this forum. I'll email you privately. <br><br> \n<\/body><\/html>\n","contact":"stopsosnow@yahoo.com","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","summary":"Track this topic | Email this topic | Print this topic\r\nSaveOurState \t\r\nPosted: Jul 19 2005, 08:08 PM\r\nQuote Post\r\n\r\n\r\nAdministrator\r\n*****\r\n\r\nGroup: Admin\r\nPosts: 2175\r\nMember No.: 1\r\nJoined: 18-November 04\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\t\r\nMark your calendars and reserve this date. We are going to officially introduce ourselves to Orange County.\r\n\r\nSpecific details to follow. ","numcomment":5,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2005\/07\/gillaguna.jpg","filesize":"140.0 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2005\/07\/133284.php","image":{"original":"\/uploads\/2005\/07\/gillaguna.jpg","small":"\/uploads\/2005\/07\/gillaguna.jpgthumb.jpg","medium":"\/uploads\/2005\/07\/gillaguna.jpgmid.jpg"}},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":133293,"heading":"DO NOT EMAIL THE ABOVE ACCOUNT","article":"DO NOT EMAIL THE ABOVE ACCOUNT!\r\n\r\nIn my opinion, it is a phony post by an SOS member trying to bait people here into sending emails to them so they can learn more about the people, groups, and organizations that are reading la.indymedia.org. There is some evidence to suggest that  SOS is trying to infilitrate the groups that oppose them to learn more about the tactics we use. In addition to this, they are also trying to collect data on us so they can send it to local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies.\r\n\r\nHere is how I learned about this trickery. The same person using the above account sent me two emails minutes of each other the same day. I gather the second email they sent me was not meant to be sent to me, but to friends. Why do I say this? Because the second email included the names or the organizers of the event. The first one they sent to me was made to look like as if it was from an anti-SOS sympathizer.\r\n\r\nI didn't say anything about this until I came across this posting because I thought these folks were trying to bait me alone. I've posted both emails below so you can see the trickery firsthand.\r\n\r\nSincerely,\r\n\r\nDuane J. Roberts\r\nduaneroberts92804@yahoo.com\r\n\r\n\r\nFrom Stop SOS Wed Jul 6 11:17:35 2005\r\nX-Apparently-To:\tduaneroberts92804@yahoo.com via 68.142.200.132; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:17:36 -0700\r\nX-Originating-IP:\t[66.163.178.93]\r\nReturn-Path:\t<stopsosnow@yahoo.com>\r\nAuthentication-Results:\tmta179.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=pass (ok)\r\nReceived:\tfrom 66.163.178.93 (HELO web34012.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (66.163.178.93) by mta179.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:17:36 -0700\r\nReceived:\t(qmail 59037 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2005 18:17:36 -0000\r\nDomainKey-Signature:\ta=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rd68qYk+3Rcr3rkA70\/nHdraYBk2Do6sGuy\/A7PUJC6lSHbklNm2+7Cr0V65cHVKmnhsMU8V\/4TKPjkhvMoAO33UvJz3zARGZUfj72QgH7Jk6FvzfRSFqUcYnA0ktzRC1OnwkWjbrsGeHC5vO\/ncy\/brcMgeDkTHkrvug+BY\/Z8= ;\r\nMessage-ID:\t<20050706181736.59035.qmail@web34012.mail.mud.yahoo.com>\r\nReceived:\tfrom [68.4.239.105] by web34012.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:17:35 PDT\r\nDate:\tWed, 6 Jul 2005 11:17:35 -0700 (PDT)\r\nFrom:\tSend an Instant Message &quot;Stop SOS&quot; <stopsosnow@yahoo.com>  Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book\r\nYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn more\r\nSubject:\tSOS back to Laguna\r\nTo:\tduaneroberts92804@yahoo.com\r\nMIME-Version:\t1.0\r\nContent-Type:\ttext\/plain; charset=iso-8859-1\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding:\t8bit\r\nContent-Length:\t1491\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.saveourstate.org\/forums\/index.php?showtopic=3209\r\n\r\n\r\nWell, although Robin and I have done are best to keep\r\nthis one quiet, the opposition has caught on and it is\r\nnow posted on their websites. The OCRegister has also\r\nasked for an interview. We already have the\r\ncommittment of many groups. Some MM will be joining us\r\non their way to the border.\r\n\r\nSo in light of this I am making this very public.\r\n\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------\r\nDear Fellow SOS Members,\r\nPlease join us for this protest at the SOURCE of the\r\nfunding for the hiring center. It's at the SAWDUST\r\nFESTIVAL which is 2 blocks from the hiring site. (it's\r\nwithin walking distance, so maybe we can hit both at\r\nthe same time).\r\nThe parking will be horrible, due to the popularity of\r\nthis art festival, so if you can carpool, please do\r\nso. I mistakenly thought parking was free, but it's\r\n$1.50 per hour.\r\n------------------------\r\nLAGUNA BEACH\r\nLaguna Canyon Road\/Laguna Canyon Frontage Rd.\r\nJULY 16TH * SATURDAY\r\n10AM-12PM\r\n\r\n**This is NOT at the day labor site**\r\n\r\nARTS FESTIVAL RALLY!\r\n\r\nThe City of Laguna Beach supports an Illegal Day Labor\r\nsite through income generated by their World Famous\r\nArt Festivals. We are gathering in a peaceful rally in\r\nfront of the arts center to educate those entering the\r\nfestival and the drive-by public to the illegal\r\nactivities their tickets are paying for.\r\n\r\nBring your signs:\r\n\r\n&quot;Shame on Laguna Beach&quot;\r\n&quot;Laguna Beach Supports Illegals&quot;\r\n&quot;Laguna Beach Arts Support Illegals&quot;\r\n&quot;Laguna Beach Residents Before Illegals&quot;\r\n&quot;Your Art Ticket Pays For Mexico&quot;\r\n\r\nAlso bring the usual signs denouncing Illegal\r\nImmigration and Day Labor Sites.\r\n--------------------------\r\n\r\nDirections: From Los Angeles take the 405 Freeway into\r\nIrvine. Take the 133 Highway (south) towards Laguna\r\nBeach. This highway turns into Laguna Canyon Rd.\r\nFrom San Diego take the 5 Freeway to 405 Freeway, take\r\n133 Highway (south) towards Laguna Beach. The 133\r\nturns into Laguna Canyon Rd.\r\nParking: There is metered parking up and down the\r\nstreet ($1.50 per hour. Quarters only) Or there is a\r\n($5) parking area as you enter the canyon called ACT V\r\nparking. You will then take a shuttle bus to the\r\nSawdust Festival site.\r\nBring your family and swimsuits and enjoy an afternoon\r\nat the beautiful beach after the rally\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.sawdustartfestival.org\/\r\n\r\n(Last month several American citizens and residents of\r\nLaguna Beach lost their homes in a major landslide.\r\nThey were not insured, therefore have lost everything.\r\nInstead of using city money to help these good\r\nAmericans, the mayor of Laguna Beach funds an illegal\r\nresource center, which includes a hiring center,\r\ncounseling, and housing for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS\r\n\r\n\r\n\t\t\r\n____________________________________________________\r\nSell on Yahoo! Auctions \u2013 no fees. Bid on great items.  \r\nhttp:\/\/auctions.yahoo.com\/\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFrom Stop SOS Wed Jul 6 11:19:04 2005\r\nX-Apparently-To:\tduaneroberts92804@yahoo.com via 68.142.201.246; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:19:07 -0700\r\nX-Originating-IP:\t[66.163.178.92]\r\nReturn-Path:\t<stopsosnow@yahoo.com>\r\nAuthentication-Results:\tmta202.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=yahoo.com; domainkeys=pass (ok)\r\nReceived:\tfrom 66.163.178.92 (HELO web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (66.163.178.92) by mta202.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:19:07 -0700\r\nReceived:\t(qmail 58979 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2005 18:19:04 -0000\r\nDomainKey-Signature:\ta=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5OZE3mn2JkJ675wCdri6BF3jFF\/X\/4zlG7X0bPyLJhCuzgLIfQgsv8+TBB3EQje8M00Bzz5CyjMw+x426+ubceEzQPBRzJXZcF5ogpOVdqbPSUTNZDDClBD7GNAdhKNm3hevkZzVwCtX82UM0IuD3o5dt2Y0NNe3AuiBQEnksZo= ;\r\nMessage-ID:\t<20050706181904.58977.qmail@web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com>\r\nReceived:\tfrom [68.4.239.105] by web34011.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:19:04 PDT\r\nDate:\tWed, 6 Jul 2005 11:19:04 -0700 (PDT)\r\nFrom:\tSend an Instant Message &quot;Stop SOS&quot; <stopsosnow@yahoo.com>  Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book\r\nYahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by yahoo.com. Learn more\r\nSubject:\tSOS back to Laguna\r\nTo:\tSend an Instant Message &quot;Stop SOS&quot; <stopsosnow@yahoo.com>, duaneroberts92804@yahoo.com\r\nMIME-Version:\t1.0\r\nContent-Type:\ttext\/plain; charset=iso-8859-1\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding:\t8bit\r\nContent-Length:\t1139\r\n\r\n\r\nOrganizers:\r\n\r\nEileen Garcia, of Laguna Beach, and I are working\r\ntogether to coordinate a protest at the LB Festival of\r\nArts. Eileen created the beautiful flyer below.  We\r\nhope you can attend!   Robin Hvidston\r\n\r\nLAGUNA BEACH\r\nLaguna Canyon Road\/Laguna Canyon Frontage Rd.\r\nJULY 16TH * SATURDAY\r\n10AM-12PM\r\n \r\n**This is NOT at the day labor site**\r\n \r\nARTS FESTIVAL RALLY!\r\n\r\nThe City of Laguna Beach supports an Illegal Day Labor\r\nsite through income generated by their World Famous\r\nArt Festivals. We are gathering in a peaceful rally in\r\nfront of the arts center to educate those entering the\r\nfestival and the drive-by public to the illegal\r\nactivities their tickets are paying for.\r\n \r\nBring your signs:\r\n&quot;Shame on Laguna Beach&quot;\r\n&quot;Laguna Beach Supports Illegals&quot;\r\n&quot;Laguna Beach Arts Support Illegals&quot;\r\n &quot;Laguna Beach Residents Before Illegals&quot; \r\n&quot;Your Art Ticket Pays For Mexico&quot;\r\n \r\n \r\nAlso bring the usual signs denouncing Illegal\r\nImmigration and Day Labor Sites.\r\n--------------------------\r\nDirections: From Los Angeles take the 405 Freeway into\r\nIrvine. Take the 133 Highway (south) towards Laguna\r\nBeach. This highway turns into Laguna Canyon Rd.\r\n \r\nFrom San Diego take the 5 Freeway to 405 Freeway, take\r\n133 Highway (south) towards Laguna Beach. The 133\r\nturns into Laguna Canyon Rd.\r\n \r\nParking:  There is metered parking up and down the\r\nstreet ($1.50 per hour. Quarters only) Or there is a\r\nfree parking area as you enter the canyon called ACT V\r\nparking. You will then take a shuttle bus to the\r\nSawdust Festival site.\r\n \r\nBring your family and swimsuits and enjoy an afternoon\r\nat the beautiful beach after the rally\r\n \r\nhttp:\/\/www.sawdustartfestival.org\/\r\n \r\n(Last month several American citizens and residents of\r\nLaguna Beach lost their homes in a major landslide.\r\nThey were not insured, therefore have lost everything.\r\nInstead of using city money to help these good\r\nAmericans, the mayor of Laguna Beach funds an illegal\r\nresource center, which includes a hiring center,\r\ncounseling, and housing for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.)\r\n\r\n\r\n\t\t","author":"Duane J. Roberts","parent_id":133284,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-07-21 03:08:01","modified":"2013-11-11 00:35:04","fileurl":""},{"id":133401,"heading":"Why that Post was Hidden?","article":"Please, tell me why this post was hidden, thanks.","author":"Marcus","parent_id":133284,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-07-21 21:08:39","modified":"2005-07-21 21:08:39","fileurl":""},{"id":133411,"heading":"We have already infiltrated","article":"Too late, scum","author":"Vic","parent_id":133284,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-07-22 00:15:34","modified":"2005-07-22 00:15:34","fileurl":""},{"id":133513,"heading":"Retraction","article":"I must issue a retraction.\r\n\r\nAlthough Jim Gilchrist was seen at the July 16, 2005 rally in Laguna  Beach, there is no word on whether he will appear on July 30.\r\n\r\nAlso, there is NO reason to believe he knew stormfronters would be there. In fact, most people were probably not aware of stormfront.\r\n\r\nIt is one thing to opine that someont is a racist. It is wrong to suggest that one has ties to an organized group when one does not.\r\n\r\nApologizes","author":"stopsosnow","parent_id":133284,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-07-22 22:40:35","modified":"2005-07-22 22:40:35","fileurl":""},{"id":133591,"heading":"I did it.","article":"I hid it on the followup by Duane.  In retrospect, that was a bad idea.","author":"johnk","parent_id":133284,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-07-23 08:48:28","modified":"2005-07-23 08:48:28","fileurl":""}]}