{"article":{"id":130557,"heading":"News From The Front Lines:  Baldwin Park Updates","author":"1planet1people","created":"2005-06-26 17:04:53","modified":"2007-08-14 14:37:04","last_modified":"Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:37:04","article":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p>12:58   <br>  <br> Police have barricaded side streets on Ramona.  There are reports of 100's of counter demonstrators on Ramona and 60 counter protestors on Downing and Pacific.  The independent reporter is not able to see the SOS people.  There are reports of large numbers of riot police standing between the two organizations.  People have been asked to sign the non-violent pledge.  So far the counter demonstrators are chanting, \"Peaceful Protest\". <br>  <br> <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"I am merely relaying news information as reported from independent news reporters covering the protests in Baldwin Park by Save Our State (an Anti-Illegal Immigration Organization) and the citizens of greater Los Angeles who have come together in opposition to Save Our State.  This protest is about a series of insriptions on a monument that reflects the struggles of Latino and Anglo relations.  Save Our State finds that communities with Latino Americans are &quot;Cease Pools&quot; and their culture and history are offensive and wants the inscriptions removed.","numcomment":30,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2005\/06\/130557.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":130559,"heading":"Keep the News Coming","article":"I'm sending out all reports to other parts of the USA and the World.","author":"Pachuco","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 17:19:21","modified":"2005-06-26 17:19:21","fileurl":""},{"id":130561,"heading":"This isn't about Mexico","article":"This is about racism.","author":"Pachuco","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 17:30:22","modified":"2005-06-26 17:30:22","fileurl":""},{"id":130564,"heading":"12:58 Diagram.","article":"","author":"1planet1people","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-06-26 17:34:39","modified":"2005-08-15 03:13:47","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/06\/12.58.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/06\/12.58.jpg"}},{"id":130566,"heading":"12:58 Diagram.","article":"","author":"1planet1people","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-06-26 17:35:58","modified":"2005-08-15 03:13:47","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/06\/12.58.jpgcovbal.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/06\/12.58.jpgcovbal.jpg"}},{"id":130567,"heading":"You Go 1P1P","article":"Wish I was there.\r\n\r\nKeep me informed . . . ","author":"Pachuco","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 17:38:19","modified":"2005-06-26 17:38:19","fileurl":""},{"id":130568,"heading":"American Neurotic","article":"[QUOTE]\r\n\r\nAuthor: American Native\r\n\r\nBULLSHIT Pachuco\r\n\r\nIt's about the takeover of the United States \r\nby a shitty Third World C**k Sucking nation of Mexico! \r\n\r\nJOE TURNER ROCKS!\r\n\r\n[END QUOTE]\r\n\r\nYeah, and the Reconquista is being funded by Home Depot.\r\n\r\nGet some help for that unchecked paranoia.","author":"Pachuco","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 17:43:24","modified":"2005-06-26 17:43:24","fileurl":""},{"id":130569,"heading":"1:40 update","article":"200 + Counter Demonstrators confirmed on Ramona, including the Aztec Dancers.\r\n\r\n100+ Counter Demonstrators remain on Pacific and Downing.\r\n\r\nThe counter demonstrators are remaining peaceful, abiding by the laws, and voicing their descent to the Save Our State organization.  The Save Our State has just about thirty people on their side who have been there for some time, while the numbers of counter demonstrators continue to increasingly grow.\r\n","author":"1planet1people","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 17:45:39","modified":"2005-06-26 17:45:39","fileurl":""},{"id":130574,"heading":"1:40 Diagram","article":"","author":"1planet1people","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2005-06-26 17:55:25","modified":"2005-08-15 03:13:47","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/06\/1.40.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2005\/06\/1.40.jpg"}},{"id":130579,"heading":"1:57 pm","article":"Both sides are at a stand off and will wait each other out.  No incidents have yet occurred. ","author":"1planet1people","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 18:00:06","modified":"2005-06-26 18:00:06","fileurl":""},{"id":130583,"heading":"SOSMM Personal Coverage Disagrees","article":"SOS Poster:\r\n\r\nI just got off the phone with Les Blenkhorn, who is Terry Andersons' producer. He is on the ground in BP. It is real quiet now, but he described to me how at one time they had 3-400 protesters across the street, and several thousand in a different direction down another street (I am sure someone there can better describe the logistics).\r\n\r\nJust over 100 on our side. Excellent media representation. Massive police presence. \r\n\r\nA number of the violent, pro-illegals were arrested. They arrested three more while I was on the phone & I couldn't hear Les while the pro-Americans were cheering the police.\r\n\r\nGiven the turnout, this was a massive victory for Joe and S.O.S. The cost to muster that many police is going to kick the BP mayor in the teeth.\r\n\r\nHe is going to be muttering to himself, &quot;it was better before they came&quot; back!","author":"Pachuco","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 18:19:04","modified":"2005-06-26 18:19:04","fileurl":""},{"id":130630,"heading":"Change of victory.  And IndyMedia policy","article":"> Given the turnout, this was a massive victory for Joe \r\n> and S.O.S. The cost to muster that many police is going \r\n> to kick the BP mayor in the teeth. \r\n\r\nThis is informative since the SOSMM is changing what they want to claim as a &quot;victory&quot; from one of &quot;removing the Monumen&quot; to one of &quot;costing the City of Baldwin Park one million dollars.&quot;  If this was a &quot;victory,&quot; then General Custer won the Battle of Little Bighorn.\r\n\r\nAlso I appreciate IndyMedia's policy of keeping things down to a dull roar and I believe they've removed a couple of my postings where my rhetoric has gotten a bit out of hand.  I appreciate them removing comments I should have reworded to be a little less annoyed with the clowns.\r\n\r\n<heh> I have to smile, though.  The idiots who post using my name, and the amusing kooks that claim I'm in favor of raping 9 year old girls...  These are &quot;Save Our State&quot; a.k.a. &quot;Minutemen&quot; attempts to get their intellectual and moral superiors to lash out in anger and say something stupid that they'll try to use to justify their race hatred and bigotry.  But of course it's enough just to smile at the amusing right wing kook rhetoric and press on opposing what they stand for.\r\n\r\nWhat I'm waiting to see if any complaints by the SOSMM\/Storm Front\/Nationa Vanguard\/American Nazi Party et al. about being barricaded behind a wall of police like this.  I don't believe in &quot;Free Speech Zones&quot; where people are penned in to the point where they're only speaking among themselves.  The citizens of Southern California couldn't get anywhere near these clowns, and the roads were closed so nobody count drive by and even give the hate mongers the finger.  They were virtually invisible except among themselves, ad I don't think that's right.\r\n","author":"Fredric L. Rice","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 21:41:41","modified":"2005-06-26 21:41:41","fileurl":""},{"id":130646,"heading":"Yeah but...","article":"I disagree with free speech zones too but the SOS\/MM have been claiming for the last month that we're nothing but a bunch of violent savages, right?  So how can they turn around and complain that there were too many police protecting them?","author":"Chop Chop","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 22:37:50","modified":"2005-06-26 22:37:50","fileurl":""},{"id":130652,"heading":"This is curious","article":"I can't imagion a better use for that orange mesh .  \r\nIf a confrontational event is anticipated.  You could decide who gets the sun side of the street with a coin toss.\r\nWell?","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-26 23:36:56","modified":"2005-06-26 23:36:56","fileurl":""},{"id":130656,"heading":"richard","article":"I wish the mestizos did cause &quot;cease pools&quot; instead of cesspools.","author":"besal","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-27 00:10:40","modified":"2005-06-27 00:10:40","fileurl":""},{"id":130660,"heading":"re:previous post","article":"Sorry mestizos. My name is Richard Besal. I did not intend to \r\nuse my name as the title. The title should have been &quot;Cease\r\npools?  Have you no shame of your inability to spell?&quot;\r\nWith all due disrespect, rich","author":"besal","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-27 00:39:21","modified":"2005-06-27 00:39:21","fileurl":""},{"id":130661,"heading":"re:previous post","article":"Sorry mestizos. My name is Richard Besal. I did not intend to \r\nuse my name as the title. The title should have been &quot;Cease\r\npools?  Have you no shame of your inability to spell?&quot;\r\nWith all due disrespect, rich","author":"besal","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-27 00:40:08","modified":"2005-06-27 00:40:08","fileurl":""},{"id":130665,"heading":"Maybe that's how they'l spin this latest defeat","article":"> So how can they turn around and complain that \r\n> there were too many police protecting them?\r\n\r\nMaybe that's how they'll try to spin their latest humiliating defeat.  I look at these little hate festivals of theirs as attempts to recruit new followers and certainly their message postings in the Storm Front forums indicate that they consider these to be recruitment efforts.\r\n\r\nSo maybe they'll complain that the cops were &quot;censoring&quot; them, keeping prospective racist recruits from hearing their ancient message of hatred.  Last time the clowns amusingly proclaimed that &quot;50 patriots&quot; had been &quot;viciously attacked&quot; by the peaceful counter protesters.  Maybe this time -- since nobody actually _saw_ the racists -- they'll have no choice but to claim they were censored.\r\n\r\nThing is, I suspect they _were_.\r\n","author":"Fredric L. Rice","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-27 01:18:15","modified":"2005-06-27 01:18:15","fileurl":""},{"id":130699,"heading":"40 Vigilantes only","article":"i was there, we counted about 40 minute men or less, and about one thousand two hundred Baldwin Park defenders, all these idiots are doing are making more and more latinos angry, what are they going to do when the whole city unites.","author":"angry african","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-27 06:21:05","modified":"2005-06-27 06:21:05","fileurl":""},{"id":130701,"heading":"This time...","article":"This time SOS will claim &quot;40 American Patriots&quot; spoke only to themselves..\r\n\r\nBTW, that Besal guy made himself look real dumb.  Not only did he respond to a political argument with a personal attack but he tried to make fun of somebody for making a mistake on the computer and then proceeded to make 3 mistakes himself.","author":"Chop Chop","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-27 06:31:42","modified":"2005-06-27 06:31:42","fileurl":""},{"id":130726,"heading":"SGVTribune.COM this morning (25 June)","article":"The San Gabriel Valey Tribune this morning has two articles covering the anti-hate protest.  Since I posted about it at http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2005\/06\/130581.php I'll just make a note here about it.  It's worth checking out.\r\n","author":"Fredric L. Rice","parent_id":130557,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-27 14:37:17","modified":"2005-06-27 14:37:17","fileurl":""}]}