{"article":{"id":128376,"heading":" Audio from Mike Ruppert presentation on Peak Oil","author":"Messenger","created":"2005-06-08 01:12:17","modified":"2005-06-23 22:48:49","last_modified":"Fri, 24 Jun 2005 05:48:49","article":"

Last night at the Northwest Neighborhood Cultural Center, Mike Ruppert gave a lively presentation to a packed audience about peak oil, global domination and the \"inevitable\" crash of the American economy. The presentation went on for approximately 3 hrs and ended with a 30 minute Q&A session after a brief intermission. The last few minutes of the presentation is missing (sorry) because I ran out of tape.

Below is the original audio from the event.

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Yeah, just like Bush deserves a Nobel Peace prize. \r\n\r\nSwaggering Mike has done nothing but froth and self promotion, along with the odd lie to try hide the truth. \r\n\r\nWe all know that the WTC was deliberately demolished, OK ? \r\n\r\nIt seems that swaggering Mike knew straight away too, because on sept 13, 2001 he was already spinning to try to cover it up. \r\n\r\nHe wrote an article claiming that he was already satisfied that the WTC was not demolished. \r\n\r\n http:\/\/www.fromthewilderness.com\/free\/ww3\/09_13_01_No_Explosives.html \r\n\r\nIsn't is strange that he should rush so quickly to this conclusion and go to the trouble of publishing an article about it, when by that time, while a few people might have been wondering about the miraculous collapse and throwing around a few ideas on it, it hadn't really become an issue at that stage? \r\n\r\nIt seems that Mike had already realized that this was going to be a problem for the govt, and was in such a rush to get the counter spin out that he pre-empted what he was spinning against. \r\n\r\nIn the article Ruppert told a straight out lie to make it look as if he had documentation to support his claim. \r\n\r\nHe claimed that his opinion was based upon \r\n\r\n"a detailed review of an interview with a NY architect who is expert on high rise construction " \r\n\r\nHowever, this this was a total fabrication. He provided no more detail, and no links. Who was the architect ? Who wrote the review ? What specifically did the architect claim ? \r\n\r\nAnd more than year later I challenged Ruppert over this article and repeatedly demanded to know the source of this claim. While managing to find the time and energy to threaten me and others with a lawsuit, he refused to all demands to provide any more details. Which means that the alleged document didn't exist. \r\n\r\nNot content with fabricating implications of non exitent documents, swaggering Mike was happy to use others which told straight out lies. \r\n\r\nAfter his allusion to the imaginary review he went on \r\n\r\n"and upon today's BBC story which I have linked at the bottom of this page " \r\n\r\nThis is the notorious BBC story of Sept 13 2001, which informed us that temperatures of up to 800c would have melted the steel in the building. \r\n\r\n http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/hi\/english\/world\/americas\/ \r\nnewsid_1540000\/1540044.stm \r\n\r\nNow, it's forgiveable if MR didn;t know the melting point of steel on Sept 13 2001 and barely forgiveable that he never bothered to check before shooting off his mouth in quoting this piece of trash as a credible source, but you would have thought that more than a year later, with people ramming it down his throat day after day, that the melting point of steel is about double this, that Swaggering Mike might have learned something by the time we confronted him about it. \r\n\r\nHeh ! In your dreams ! Thundering that the demolition advocates were spouting "bullshit" and ordering them imperiously to "get out of the way of people who are doing something " (like fabricating sources to lie for the govt), Ruppert wriggled and twisted and turned on this point, eventually pleading that the great one was too busy to research the melting point of steel and that he would do it when he had time. \r\n\r\nToo busy ? It took me ten minutes on google to find multiple sources with which I eventually embarrassed him by posting them to the list on which this circus took place. \r\n\r\nSo after quoting this piece of crap from the BBC, and then having people ram the melting point of steel down his throat for the next year, the world's greatest researcher still didn't have time to a 10 minute google search to find out whether what he had written was factually incorrect. \r\n\r\nBut going back to sept 13 2001, the article gets better. Note the title \r\n\r\n"Credible Evidence, Expert Witness Testimony Convincing \r\n\r\nNo Explosives Hidden in WTC " \r\n\r\nSo who were his "expert" witnesses? \r\n\r\nWell... we had the un-named architect who gave the secret interview saying unspecified things - which was secretly reviewed by an un-named journalist in an unknown publication ... and we had the BBC article with Chris Wise informing us that steel melts at 800c and we also had... \r\n\r\n"In addition, my ex-wife Mary lives a block away and witnessed both the second crash and the collapse of both towers from a close distance. Neither she, nor any other person she knows, heard any explosions or believe that secondary charges were a factor in of the collapses" \r\n\r\nIf I want to hear crap like this, I can go down the pub and at least be spared the added annoyance of the dickhead spouting it also claiming to be the world's greatest researcher and then threatening me with a law suit for proving that he lying. \r\n\r\nBut the great man got such a hammering from the list, that in the end even his splendid magnificence had to relent and posted an article apologizing for his mistake about the melting steel, and after a brief admission that the towers were demolished after all, launching straight into another thundering sermon about how physical evidence was a waste of time , and that only the great one with his meticulous standards of sourcing and verification could prove the case. \r\n\r\nIt seems that this proof is still buried in the vaults of the Michael C. Vreeland Institute for shallow spin and fabricated sources. \r\n\r\nThen Mike informed us that it was pointless trying to expose the truth about S11 anyway, and sneered at the "newly awakened voices" of opposition. \r\n\r\n"No way out " \r\n http:\/\/www.fromthewilderness.com\/free\/ww3\/082702_no_way_out.html \r\n\r\nan article which seemed to have little point except to tell us that he was the greatest. \r\n\r\n"Has anyone noticed that very few of these potential teachers have shown up on the front lines since 9-11? \r\n\r\nI have." \r\n\r\nAt some stage after this, Mike was admitted to hospital - ostensibly with an appendix problem - but I privately suspect that he was in need of a hip replacement from so much swaggering. \r\n\r\nRevitalized by the new hip, Mike suddenly decided had a change of heart and declared \r\n\r\nNot one night's sleep \r\n http:\/\/www.fromthewilderness.com\/free\/ww3\/091703_not_one_night.html \r\n\r\n"it is September 11, 2001 that has been the singular defining moment of the 21st century." \r\n\r\ntesting the new hip to the full, Mike decalred \r\n\r\n"When it was my turn to speak I made it clear that I would always be the "pit bull(shitter)" on 9\/11, and that I would never be satisfied with any explanation that fell short of complete government foreknowledge, criminal involvement and full participation as an accomplice and principal in those attacks. This brought one of the largest ovations of the night... \r\n\r\n"I could take great pride in being labeled "The Godfather of the 9\/11 movement" by Guerilla News Network but... " \r\n\r\nIt's a bit soon for yet another hip replacement ? \r\n\r\nAnd the reason for this change of heart from the miserable pessimism of "No way out" ? \r\n\r\n"Mr. Ronald Thoden, was responsible for the airfare that brought McKinney, American journalist Daniel Hopsicker, British author Nafeez Ahmed and me to that historic city. He paid for our hotel rooms... \r\n\r\nSnouts in the trough. Ruppert flew all the way to Germany and then back to New York and achieved this astonishing feat. He bought a copy of the Guardian. \r\n\r\n"I held up an original page from Britain's The Guardian containing the Meacher essay..." \r\n\r\nI'm glad that it was an original. If you're paying $10 at the door, you wouldn't want to be seeing a photocopy. This is real research! \r\n\r\nBut recently - Jan 15 2005, Ruppert put put his other snout back on when he daclared that the sept 11 issue was dead (again) \r\n\r\n http:\/\/www.fromthewilderness.com\/free\/ww3\/011905_university_washington.shtml \r\n\r\n"In front of a wildly enthusiastic throng of supporters, listeners, activists, and those just needing to learn and listen, Ruppert explained to them that although the 9-11 cause is still alive it is no longer useful as a political tool by activists. The window on 9\/11 has closed. Simple as that." \r\n\r\nAnd now in June 2005, after rushing to makeover clinic for another quick snoutlift, Ruppert is again a \r\n\r\n"911truthchampion" \r\n\r\nOnly $10 at the door. This is nice work if you can get it. Buy a copy of the Guardian, and charge 1000 people $10 to watch you hold it up and tell them that 911 is the big issue and that you are the greatest. \r\n\r\nThen a few moths later charge them $10 at the door to tell them that 911 is dead and that you are the greatest .\r\n\r\nThen a few months later, charge them $10 at the door to tell them 911 is the big issue (and always was) and that you are the greatest.\r\n\r\nThen a few months later, charge them $10 at the door to tell them that the 911 issue is dead (again) and that you are the greatest.\r\n\r\nThen a few months later...\r\n\r\nWhat was the melting point of steel again, Mike ? Classified is it ? Perhaps \r\nVreeland can tell you... \r\n\r\nBelow is real research, not two snouted self promotion from a puffed up charlatan. \r\n\r\nSummary article \r\n\r\n http:\/\/members.iinet.net.au\/~holmgren\/manufactured.html \r\n\r\nDetailed research and documentation \r\n\r\n http:\/\/members.iinet.net.au\/~holmgren\/truth.html \r\n\r\n","author":"Gerard Holmgren","parent_id":128376,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-23 17:37:14","modified":"2005-06-23 17:37:14","fileurl":""},{"id":130274,"heading":"Mike "Vreeland" Ruppert is a puffed up dickhead","article":"Mike "Vreeland" Ruppert a "911truth champion " ? Yeah, just like Bush deserves a Nobel Peace prize. \r\n\r\nSwaggering Mike has done nothing but froth and self promotion, along with the odd lie to try hide the truth. \r\n\r\nWe all know that the WTC was deliberately demolished, OK ? \r\n\r\nIt seems that swaggering Mike knew straight away too, because on sept 13, 2001 he was already spinning to try to cover it up. \r\n\r\nHe wrote an article claiming that he was already satisfied that the WTC was not demolished. \r\n\r\n http:\/\/www.fromthewilderness.com\/free\/ww3\/09_13_01_No_Explosives.html \r\n\r\nIsn't is strange that he should rush so quickly to this conclusion and go to the trouble of publishing an article about it, when by that time, while a few people might have been wondering about the miraculous collapse and throwing around a few ideas on it, it hadn't really become an issue at that stage? \r\n\r\nIt seems that Mike had already realized that this was going to be a problem for the govt, and was in such a rush to get the counter spin out that he pre-empted what he was spinning against. \r\n\r\nIn the article Ruppert told a straight out lie to make it look as if he had documentation to support his claim. \r\n\r\nHe claimed that his opinion was based upon \r\n\r\n"a detailed review of an interview with a NY architect who is expert on high rise construction " \r\n\r\nHowever, this this was a total fabrication. He provided no more detail, and no links. Who was the architect ? Who wrote the review ? What specifically did the architect claim ? \r\n\r\nAnd more than year later I challenged Ruppert over this article and repeatedly demanded to know the source of this claim. While managing to find the time and energy to threaten me and others with a lawsuit, he refused to all demands to provide any more details. Which means that the alleged document didn't exist. \r\n\r\nNot content with fabricating implications of non exitent documents, swaggering Mike was happy to use others which told straight out lies. \r\n\r\nAfter his allusion to the imaginary review he went on \r\n\r\n"and upon today's BBC story which I have linked at the bottom of this page " \r\n\r\nThis is the notorious BBC story of Sept 13 2001, which informed us that temperatures of up to 800c would have melted the steel in the building. \r\n\r\n http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/hi\/english\/world\/americas\/ \r\nnewsid_1540000\/1540044.stm \r\n\r\nNow, it's forgiveable if MR didn;t know the melting point of steel on Sept 13 2001 and barely forgiveable that he never bothered to check before shooting off his mouth in quoting this piece of trash as a credible source, but you would have thought that more than a year later, with people ramming it down his throat day after day, that the melting point of steel is about double this, that Swaggering Mike might have learned something by the time we confronted him about it. \r\n\r\nHeh ! In your dreams ! Thundering that the demolition advocates were spouting "bullshit" and ordering them imperiously to "get out of the way of people who are doing something " (like fabricating sources to lie for the govt), Ruppert wriggled and twisted and turned on this point, eventually pleading that the great one was too busy to research the melting point of steel and that he would do it when he had time. \r\n\r\nToo busy ? It took me ten minutes on google to find multiple sources with which I eventually embarrassed him by posting them to the list on which this circus took place. \r\n\r\nSo after quoting this piece of crap from the BBC, and then having people ram the melting point of steel down his throat for the next year, the world's greatest researcher still didn't have time to a 10 minute google search to find out whether what he had written was factually incorrect. \r\n\r\nBut going back to sept 13 2001, the article gets better. Note the title \r\n\r\n"Credible Evidence, Expert Witness Testimony Convincing \r\n\r\nNo Explosives Hidden in WTC " \r\n\r\nSo who were his "expert" witnesses? \r\n\r\nWell... we had the un-named architect who gave the secret interview saying unspecified things - which was secretly reviewed by an un-named journalist in an unknown publication ... and we had the BBC article with Chris Wise informing us that steel melts at 800c and we also had... \r\n\r\n"In addition, my ex-wife Mary lives a block away and witnessed both the second crash and the collapse of both towers from a close distance. Neither she, nor any other person she knows, heard any explosions or believe that secondary charges were a factor in of the collapses" \r\n\r\nIf I want to hear crap like this, I can go down the pub and at least be spared the added annoyance of the dickhead spouting it also claiming to be the world's greatest researcher and then threatening me with a law suit for proving that he lying. \r\n\r\nBut the great man got such a hammering from the list, that in the end even his splendid magnificence had to relent and posted an article apologizing for his mistake about the melting steel, and after a brief admission that the towers were demolished after all, launching straight into another thundering sermon about how physical evidence was a waste of time , and that only the great one with his meticulous standards of sourcing and verification could prove the case. \r\n\r\nIt seems that this proof is still buried in the vaults of the Michael C. Vreeland Institute for shallow spin and fabricated sources. \r\n\r\nThen Mike informed us that it was pointless trying to expose the truth about S11 anyway, and sneered at the "newly awakened voices" of opposition. \r\n\r\n"No way out " \r\n http:\/\/www.fromthewilderness.com\/free\/ww3\/082702_no_way_out.html \r\n\r\nan article which seemed to have little point except to tell us that he was the greatest. \r\n\r\n"Has anyone noticed that very few of these potential teachers have shown up on the front lines since 9-11? \r\n\r\nI have." \r\n\r\nAt some stage after this, Mike was admitted to hospital - ostensibly with an appendix problem - but I privately suspect that he was in need of a hip replacement from so much swaggering. \r\n\r\nRevitalized by the new hip, Mike suddenly decided had a change of heart and declared \r\n\r\nNot one night's sleep \r\n http:\/\/www.fromthewilderness.com\/free\/ww3\/091703_not_one_night.html \r\n\r\n"it is September 11, 2001 that has been the singular defining moment of the 21st century." \r\n\r\ntesting the new hip to the full, Mike decalred \r\n\r\n"When it was my turn to speak I made it clear that I would always be the "pit bull(shitter)" on 9\/11, and that I would never be satisfied with any explanation that fell short of complete government foreknowledge, criminal involvement and full participation as an accomplice and principal in those attacks. This brought one of the largest ovations of the night... \r\n\r\n"I could take great pride in being labeled "The Godfather of the 9\/11 movement" by Guerilla News Network but... " \r\n\r\nIt's a bit soon for yet another hip replacement ? \r\n\r\nAnd the reason for this change of heart from the miserable pessimism of "No way out" ? \r\n\r\n"Mr. Ronald Thoden, was responsible for the airfare that brought McKinney, American journalist Daniel Hopsicker, British author Nafeez Ahmed and me to that historic city. He paid for our hotel rooms... \r\n\r\nSnouts in the trough. Ruppert flew all the way to Germany and then back to New York and achieved this astonishing feat. He bought a copy of the Guardian. \r\n\r\n"I held up an original page from Britain's The Guardian containing the Meacher essay..." \r\n\r\nI'm glad that it was an original. If you're paying $10 at the door, you wouldn't want to be seeing a photocopy. This is real research! \r\n\r\nBut recently - Jan 15 2005, Ruppert put put his other snout back on when he daclared that the sept 11 issue was dead (again) \r\n\r\n http:\/\/www.fromthewilderness.com\/free\/ww3\/011905_university_washington.shtml \r\n\r\n"In front of a wildly enthusiastic throng of supporters, listeners, activists, and those just needing to learn and listen, Ruppert explained to them that although the 9-11 cause is still alive it is no longer useful as a political tool by activists. The window on 9\/11 has closed. Simple as that." \r\n\r\nAnd now in June 2005, after rushing to the makeover clinic for another quick snoutlift, Ruppert is again a \r\n\r\n"911truthchampion" \r\n\r\nOnly $10 at the door. This is nice work if you can get it. Buy a copy of the Guardian, and charge 1000 people $10 to watch you hold it up and tell them that 911 is the big issue and that you are the greatest. \r\n\r\nThen a few months later charge them $10 at the door to tell them that 911 is dead and that you are the greatest .\r\n\r\nThen a few months later, charge them $10 at the door to tell them 911 is the big issue (and always was) and that you are the greatest.\r\n\r\nThen a few months later, charge them $10 at the door to tell them that the 911 issue is dead (again) and that you are the greatest.\r\n\r\nThen a few months later...\r\n\r\nWhat was the melting point of steel again, Mike ? Classified is it ? Perhaps \r\nVreeland can tell you... \r\n\r\nBelow is real research, not two snouted self promotion from a puffed up personality cult charlatan. \r\n\r\nSummary article \r\n\r\n http:\/\/members.iinet.net.au\/~holmgren\/manufactured.html \r\n\r\nDetailed research and documentation \r\n\r\n http:\/\/members.iinet.net.au\/~holmgren\/truth.html \r\n\r\n","author":"Gerard Holmgren","parent_id":128376,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-23 22:48:49","modified":"2005-06-23 22:48:49","fileurl":""}]}