{"article":{"id":127614,"heading":"Minutemen - Wanted Poster - Hal Netkin","author":"Chicomozteca","created":"2005-05-29 06:58:03","modified":"2006-10-04 00:46:59","last_modified":"Wed, 04 Oct 2006 07:46:59","article":"","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","summary":"For use at demo in Santa Ana Wednesday, and everywhere you can post it.","numcomment":23,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2005\/05\/wanted_minutemen.jpg","filesize":"44.2 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2005\/05\/127614.php","image":{"original":"\/uploads\/2005\/05\/wanted_minutemen.jpg","small":"\/uploads\/2005\/05\/wanted_minutemen.jpgthumb.jpg","medium":"\/uploads\/2005\/05\/wanted_minutemen.jpgmid.jpg"}},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":127619,"heading":"It's like a virus...","article":"I disagree. \r\n\r\nAn old man has his vehicle descended upon by a mob of people that not only block his way in all directions, but they beat on his windows and shout threats.  They rock it to the point where they might turn it over and HE'S the terrorist because he wants to get away?  If anything he showed incredible restraint.\r\n\r\nWhy was he singled out?  Because he had white skin?  Because he was pulling up to a building?  \r\n\r\nSomeone please tell me what hate crime he is guilty of.  Driving his car?  Fearing for his life?  Trying to get somewhere?\r\n\r\nAlso, someone please tell me what crime the entire Minuteman organization has perpetrated.  How many people have they threatened and screamed at and mobbed?  How  many bricks have the Minutemen thrown?\r\n\r\nOne final thing, will someone please tell me what "gringo" really means?  Why do I keep hearing it screamed at the white people?  That's not meant as a racial slur is it?\r\n\r\n","author":"Apache","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2005-05-29 09:49:01","modified":"2005-05-29 09:49:01","fileurl":""},{"id":127620,"heading":"It's like a virus...","article":"I disagree. \r\n\r\nAn old man has his vehicle descended upon by a mob of people that not only block his way in all directions, but they beat on his windows and shout threats.  They rock it to the point where they might turn it over and HE'S the terrorist because he wants to get away?  If anything he showed incredible restraint.\r\n\r\nWhy was he singled out?  Because he had white skin?  Because he was pulling up to a building?  \r\n\r\nSomeone please tell me what hate crime he is guilty of.  Driving his car?  Fearing for his life?  Trying to get somewhere?\r\n\r\nAlso, someone please tell me what crime the entire Minuteman organization has perpetrated.  How many people have they threatened and screamed at and mobbed?  How  many bricks have the Minutemen thrown?\r\n\r\nOne final thing, will someone please tell me what "gringo" really means?  Why do I keep hearing it screamed at the white people?  That's not meant as a racial slur is it?\r\n\r\n","author":"Apache","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2005-05-29 09:54:01","modified":"2005-05-29 09:54:01","fileurl":""},{"id":127660,"heading":"Re: It's like a virus","article":"There are claims that people rocked his van - but they are seriously doubtful. \r\n\r\nThe police were ten feet away in riot gear - it hardly seems credible that they would have stood by with such activities happening- especiallly given their viscious treatment of protestors later in the night.\r\n\r\nThe GG police claim the van - and the running down of the protestors - occured at the close of the event. This is a blatant fabrication. All video of the people hit by  the van are in broad daylight - not in the dark, not _after_ the event. \r\n\r\nSince the police lied about the time  of the even there is no reason to assume they didn't also lie about its cause.\r\n\r\nIn fact, given the phalanx of horses and riot pigs, there is no way that protestors could have gotten anywhere near the van or any other vehicle after the event.\r\n\r\nI mean, YOU try busting through a line of 15 horses with riders in helmets with clubs and see how far YOU get.\r\n\r\nAll this junk about the van being rocked  is as big a lie as the whole piece about a plastic water bottle hurting some woman's brain in Baldwin Park.\r\n\r\nIt's just sheer fabrication and fantasy woven to sound "plausible."\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Minutemen Hunter","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-29 17:58:59","modified":"2005-05-29 17:58:59","fileurl":""},{"id":127661,"heading":"Re: It's like a virus","article":"There are claims that people rocked his van - but they are seriously doubtful. \r\n\r\nThe police were ten feet away in riot gear - it hardly seems credible that they would have stood by with such activities happening- especiallly given their viscious treatment of protestors later in the night.\r\n\r\nThe GG police claim the van - and the running down of the protestors - occured at the close of the event. This is a blatant fabrication. All video of the people hit by  the van are in broad daylight - not in the dark, not _after_ the event. \r\n\r\nSince the police lied about the time  of the even there is no reason to assume they didn't also lie about its cause.\r\n\r\nIn fact, given the phalanx of horses and riot pigs, there is no way that protestors could have gotten anywhere near the van or any other vehicle after the event.\r\n\r\nI mean, YOU try busting through a line of 15 horses with riders in helmets with clubs and see how far YOU get.\r\n\r\nAll this junk about the van being rocked  is as big a lie as the whole piece about a plastic water bottle hurting some woman's brain in Baldwin Park.\r\n\r\nIt's just sheer fabrication and fantasy woven to sound "plausible."\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Minutemen Hunter","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-29 18:01:07","modified":"2005-05-29 18:01:07","fileurl":""},{"id":130030,"heading":"Archangel","article":"Indy Media and Anarchist protestors at Garden Grove exposed as liars!\r\n\r\nHere is the video folks!  Yes, two uninjured protestors lay down in the street to fake being run over.\r\n\r\nIf they were injured why lay in the street?  Fakers, liars, and a complete discredit to their cause.\r\n\r\nFlat busted on video see for yourself.\r\n\r\nYou guys owe Hal Netkin a public apology but I dont expect that from scam artists and the media that supports lies.\r\n\r\nThe video\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/keepstuff.homestead.com\/NetkinAnsweresOsborn5620.html","author":"Michael","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-22 02:06:20","modified":"2005-06-22 02:06:20","fileurl":""},{"id":130031,"heading":"Exposure","article":"Video of protestor fraud\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/keepstuff.homestead.com\/NetkinAnsweresOsborn5620.html\r\n\r\n","author":"Michael","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-22 02:07:39","modified":"2005-06-22 02:07:39","fileurl":""},{"id":130056,"heading":"Pathetic Indymedia","article":"Sad, pathetic, weak and cowardly:  The creed of the Indymedia goons.  It's almost as if they say amongst themselves, " Let's pick a topic\/person\/group this week to hate on.  Maybe we can threaten them, too, along with all the rest of our seditious, hate-filled rhetoric!!"\r\nThis is just another lie and, I'm sad to say, par for the course.\r\nKeep up the good work, losers!  You're wrecking yourselves from the inside-out, and saving us the trouble of telling everyone what a hate-mongering clan of misfits you all trully are.  The public is getting to see it for themselves!\r\nCongratulations!","author":"Cassanova","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-22 05:54:30","modified":"2005-06-22 05:54:30","fileurl":""},{"id":130063,"heading":"Netkkkin's Video is Garbage","article":"\r\n\r\nWhat garbage.\r\n\r\nNekkkin has this lame voice over, in which he claims studiply that a man giving a Black Power Salute \/ Power to the People or Raised Fist salute is attacking a car, or about to attack a car.\r\n\r\nThe man lowers his arm to his side and makes no further movement.\r\n\r\nThis is Netkkin's "proof" that cars were being "attacked" and "intimidated by protestors - "proof" he uses to claim that he himself was intimidated , and had cause to fear some kind of "Reginald Denny" scenario of being pulled from his car.\r\n\r\nHe then claims a car drove away after having been intimidated, but the video shows no such thing. There is no footage whatsoever showing any vehicle driving away.\r\n\r\nThen, although clearly the video in question was taken at the scene THE VIDEO OF NETKKKIN'S VAN RUNNING INTO \/ OVER PROTESTORS IS TOTALLY EDITED OUT.\r\n\r\nThe video shows no footage of Netkkin's vehicle AT ALL, nor\r\nof anything that can be determined to be the immediate aftermath of his hitting the protestors.\r\n\r\nOne has to wonder why on Earth if Netkkin has video proving his supposed innocence he would edit it out.\r\n\r\nThe answer is, of course that the video shows his crime - not that he is innocent..\r\n\r\nThere is footage of a woman sinking ito the ground, apparently after having been hit. You see her standing \/ leaning against others, with someone's arm around her, and suddenly she sinks to the ground.\r\n\r\nA man walks away and comes back and lies down.\r\n\r\nThis is Netkkkin's "proof" that no one was hurt and that people were "faking" being hurt.\r\n\r\nBull&&^t .\r\n\r\nNetkkkin's running commentary ascribes motives that are in no way evidenced by the footage, which has no sound.\r\n\r\nPerhaps the sound has been edited out for a reason. Who can know?\r\n\r\nWhether the woman was _able_ to continue to stand, whether she had been knocked down and rose again, only to be unable to stand, whether others counciled her to lie down until she could see a paramedic, and whether the same scenarios might apply to the man never occur to Netkkkin - or at least he won't mention them if they do.\r\n\r\nThe proof_ is in the footage Netkkkin edits away.\r\n\r\nHe wants _no one_ to see his crime, and presents this flimsy, distorted and error ridden interpretation as if it were factual.\r\n\r\nNetkkkin is a coward without the neerve to show the world his own actions - either from shame - which is doubtful - he has shown himself to be not only stupid as hell but without shame - or, he is simply hiding his own crime here.\r\n\r\nLET'S SEE THE WHOLE VIDEO NETKKKIN - WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF","author":"Murrieta","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-22 07:39:07","modified":"2005-06-22 07:39:07","fileurl":""},{"id":130146,"heading":"Where is the Truth?","article":"How interesting  that a police report has been filed and no criminal charges have been brought forth. This would indicate that no crime was commited. However it is clear to see that multipple crimes are being commited. Racial hatred and intimidation is acurring. More then likely no permit had been issued, and an illegal demonstration of ILLEGALS AND ANTI AMERICAN SCHMUCKS!\r\n  With no charges filed and no hospitol reports to back up the claims of attempted murder and vehicular battery are hard to prove.\r\nFACTS ARE FACTS AND IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE TRUTH MAY BE BECAUSE MEXICAN SYMPATHISERS WILL CLAIM ITS RACISM NO MATTER WHAT. THE FACT THEY CAN SCREAM THEIR HATRED AND LIES WITH IMPUNITY AND START TROUBLE ANYWHERE IS GOOD BUT IF AN AMERICAN CITIZEN SAYS SOMETHING AGAINST THIS FAKE AND MYTHICAL CULTURE AND COUNTRY  OF AZTLAN THEY ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE DESCRIBED AS RACIST. IF AN AMERICAN WANTS THE BOARDERS CLOSED OR PATROLED THEY ARE CONSIDERED RACIST. WELL BITE ME! IT AINT SO WE WANT JUSTICE NOT LAWLESSNESS. ENFORCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!!!!!!!","author":"American Born and Bred","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-22 19:50:27","modified":"2005-06-22 19:50:27","fileurl":""},{"id":130147,"heading":"Where is the Truth?","article":"How interesting  that a police report has been filed and no criminal charges have been brought forth. This would indicate that no crime was commited. However it is clear to see that multipple crimes are being commited. Racial hatred and intimidation is acurring. More then likely no permit had been issued, and an illegal demonstration of ILLEGALS AND ANTI AMERICAN SCHMUCKS!\r\n  With no charges filed and no hospitol reports to back up the claims of attempted murder and vehicular battery are hard to prove.\r\nFACTS ARE FACTS AND IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THE TRUTH MAY BE BECAUSE MEXICAN SYMPATHISERS WILL CLAIM ITS RACISM NO MATTER WHAT. THE FACT THEY CAN SCREAM THEIR HATRED AND LIES WITH IMPUNITY AND START TROUBLE ANYWHERE IS GOOD BUT IF AN AMERICAN CITIZEN SAYS SOMETHING AGAINST THIS FAKE AND MYTHICAL CULTURE AND COUNTRY  OF AZTLAN THEY ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE DESCRIBED AS RACIST. IF AN AMERICAN WANTS THE BOARDERS CLOSED OR PATROLED THEY ARE CONSIDERED RACIST. WELL BITE ME! IT AINT SO WE WANT JUSTICE NOT LAWLESSNESS. ENFORCE THE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!!!!!!!","author":"American Born and Bred","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-22 19:52:10","modified":"2005-06-22 19:52:10","fileurl":""},{"id":130158,"heading":"hmm lookie that","article":"the home depo protest\r\nlol!!\r\nit looks like the illegals got there a little late..\r\n\r\ngood thing they didn't forget the mexiKan flag though....\r\n\r\ni am proud of them.\r\n\r\nthey vidicate all that I have said here on the imc.\r\n\r\nI don't feel any great hate for them, except when they try to dupe the public as to their claims about my tribal heritage.\r\n\r\nthey can have mexico, as long as they give US INDIANS back our SACRED LANDS.\r\n\r\nwe are not mexicaks, bang.\r\nwe OWE mexciko nothing as far as CLAIMING ANY LANDS FOR THE COLONIAL OPPRESSORS>i.e the xicano\/mexican\/spanish\/european\/nothingtotheindigenousoftheAmericas.\/fakeindians\/ExploitersofIndigenousCultures.\r\nAmerica, it's whats for dinner..\r\n","author":"ca nat","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-22 21:17:53","modified":"2005-06-22 21:17:53","fileurl":""},{"id":130707,"heading":"Netkin Cam","article":"I have seen the entire Netkin video.  It is clear that those socialists were faking injury and should be prosecuted.  Who paid for the medical transport and emergency room visit?","author":"mm1","parent_id":127614,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-06-27 11:45:52","modified":"2005-06-27 11:45:52","fileurl":""}]}