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Minutemen Protest (1 of 3)

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The Garden Gove Police Department conducted themselves in ways that were expected. They protected the racists, and attacked the people.

Minutemen Protest (1...
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The Rally against the Minutemen and the Save Our State group had its high and low points. There was of course the mad man that drove into the crowd, hitting a few people including the Executive Director of the LA Legal Guild (I would hate to be that driver), and the police attacking the crowd for no reason (thank you to all the video activists on the ground as we have the evidence against them), as the low points. In a lighter light though, the Minute Men and Save Our State now know that any time the are in the Orange County or Los Angeles area, they will always face opposition. Now for my picture by picture account of the events of the night. Before I get started, I want people to know what SOS is saying in regards to the lunatic driver, "Last Great Hope Posted: May 25 2005, 09:49 PM, "Of course the protesters initiated the incident. These lowlifes have shown time and time they aren't civil beings. They act like animals in situations like this. These are not intelligent people we are dealing with. This is Third World riff-raff with a racist chip on their shoulers and a huge inferiority complex. These people have failed at everything they've ever done and hate White America for it. If they got run over I am sure they asked for it. No tears for idiots. After Baldwin Park, I will never look at these people the same way again (to quote a friend who was there with me). Consider it payback for Dottie being attacked you scumbags." This demonstrates that they are not non-violent as they have claimed in the past, and that they are advocating violence. Though many of the people on our side have stated that we were against the act in Baldwin Park in regards to the bottle, their attitudes, actions, and disregard for human life is likely to upset a lot of people at future protests. My guess is that it will be a rally call to activists and our side will continue to grow in numbers.
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They started to arrive early

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

They started to arri...
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The organizers to this event and the police were there by 5:30 pm. They had roped off the area and were preparing.
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The Police Horses were also there to be ready in a moments notice.

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The Police Horses we...
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There is a poster on the Save Our State sight that is taking credit for insighting the police department. He claims to have encouraged the police to use these tatics against the protestors. He posts as 1inchgroup.
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They posted their sign out front

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

They posted their si...
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Around 6 pm they put up their banner like it was going to be seen from the road.
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The Goon

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The Goon...
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This goon said that I was not allowed to take a picture of him in the public. He obviously does not know anything about the free press or a person's right to take pictures of anything while in the public domain. But, if I were as ugly as he is, I wouldn't want my picture taken either. Anyway, have your lawyer contact me, so I can laugh at him.
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The Goon

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The Goon...
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Here is another, sue me again. Look, that old t-shirt isn't even clean. This guy has to be a Militia member, looks like he lives in some shack in the woods.
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The Goon

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The Goon...
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Okay, enough, I know, I just couldn't believe he dared me like that. What an idiot! I wander if he made it through the third grade.
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Facists

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

Facists...
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The signs begin to arrive. Our message is clear, these facists are not welcome in our state.
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Many groups, with many ideals unite

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

Many groups, with ma...
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Some people from the ISO arrived. They are a great group of people!
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Protesters are arriving.

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

Protesters are arriv...
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It is still 6:30pm (thirty minute early), and the people begin to stream in. By this time we had about 50 to 80 protesters there.
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The greens are on the ground!

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The greens are on th...
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I am proud of their work and efforts. I hope to see them at future SOS/MM events!
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The SOS are on the ground.

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The SOS are on the g...
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They wave the flag like it stands for their hate. We are a land of immigrants, that flag is not yours and does not represent your views. My god, even the evil BUSH is against you (ironic to be on his side for once). You are not supported by the majority of Americans by the government of America. Why do you claim you are on the American side? It is like Zionists carrying a Nazi flag!
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ISO

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

ISO...
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The ISO's Banner
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Corporate Media

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

Corporate Media...
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They all were there to see the showdown.
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A goon and his opponents flag

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

A goon and his oppon...
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The Police and their Video Camera

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The Police and their...
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We should try to get their footage! It is public record and if we can get it, we can use it against them.
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Another shot of the cops and their camera

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

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Another picture of the idiot goon!

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

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A true statement from a peaceful demonstrator

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

A true statement fro...
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It is only 6:40, and the demonstration continues to grow.
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The Association of Latin American Students

by 1Planet1People Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 1:17 PM

The Association of L...
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I never really thought about this statement, but it is true for many of them, "they didn't cross the border, the border crossed them"
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Thank You 1Planet1People

by Latinos Unidos Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 3:45 PM

Thank you very much 1Planet1People for all the postings all over IndyMedia. By curiosity did you sleep last night, probably not.
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These photos are awesome

by just a reader Friday, May. 27, 2005 at 3:56 PM

It's giving a more real feel to the whole event.
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Lynda

by Llamas Saturday, May. 28, 2005 at 8:02 AM
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Re; The Goon, i will just bet this guy isn't living in any woods, that would be to earthy and healthy.
My guess is that he lives in the nearby "inland empire" suburb of Fontucky !
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once again

by t. cunningham Sunday, May. 29, 2005 at 1:53 AM
pyngyp1sts@yahoo.com w. haverstraw, ny

violence from the peaceful left(attack people and their property to prevent their access to events), intolerance towards freedom of speech(disrupt speaking engagements of all who don't agree with you), and don't forget threats, stalking(virtual and literal), and terror, yes terror, tactics to instill fear, destroy property,
and trample on peoples rights, all the while cultivating the "mob mentality" so crucial to allowing cowards to attack under the cloak of anonymity.
this country will continue to be the worlds best hope, not because of the morally cancerous left, but despite it. i am neither a "fundamentalist religionazi"(actually i tend to identify with buddist thought), nor am i a "militia member", "corporate goon", or any other "evil conservative". i am simply a citizen who is tired of watching fools try to argue their points by acting like ignorant, spoiled brats. how can anyone expect to be regarded in a serious light when they carry themselves with the dignity and selfrespect of a prehormonal juvenile who reserves the right to act in any undisciplined and selfindulgent manner, all the while screaming "it's not MY fault, THEY made me do it!". and before you accuse me of painting with too broad a brush, i accept that not everyone acts this way, but the majority condones it.
in closing, i would like to pose a question; "if you have had to work so hard, for so many years, to get people on board your platform, and you are still thinking that achieving success is "just around the corner", might you want to consider the possibility that most of this society DOES NOT share in your beliefs?"
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Confused

by Apache Sunday, May. 29, 2005 at 3:05 AM

If my wife came here legally from Vietnam, should she go because she wasn’t here “first”? Should the descendents of people who were here “first” have some sort of claim to this land that the descendents of white, black, Asian, Arab, Persian, Jew, etc. don’t have?




Who is “we” referenced here?




Isn't that a reference to an ethnic group? Doesn't it place a certain ethnic group in a higher standing than others? Isn't that - racist?




Way to go. I hope she doesn't grow up thinking "we" and "they" when she looks at ethnic groups. Hope she doesn't become a racist too.
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Oopsy

by Apache Sunday, May. 29, 2005 at 3:09 AM

Here, I'll try again.

If my wife came here legally from Vietnam, should she go because she wasn’t here “first”? Should the descendents of people who were here “first” have some sort of claim to this land that the descendents of white, black, Asian, Arab, Persian, Jew, etc. don’t have?

Who is “we” referenced here?

Isn't that a reference to an ethnic group? Doesn't it place a certain ethnic group in a higher standing than others? Isn't that - racist?

Way to go. I hope she doesn't grow up thinking "we" and "they" when she looks at ethnic groups. Hope she doesn't become a racist too.

There, that should get the message across.
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Honestly

by 1Planet1People Sunday, May. 29, 2005 at 3:49 AM

My family originally came from Europe. No one is seriously trying to get us to leave. The point is, if we want to live here, remember the people who had claim before us. I would not move to Costa Rica, invite a bunch of Americans, and then tell Costa Rican's that they were not allowed to live with us. That would be stupid, but that is exactly what America is trying to do. We drove them (at gun point) south of the Rio, and then told them to stay out of their land. If we want to live here, we have a moral duty to share it with those that were here before us. If you won't, well there are those of us here that understand, and will fight for their right to return (just like Palestine). The only reason the leaders of this country did not keep going south was that there were just too many people to displace, so we only displaced those in California, Texas, New Mexico, etc. It was taken through terrorism, by terrorists.
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Too Judgemental

by Pete Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 6:47 AM

"Here is another, sue me again. Look, that old t-shirt isn't even clean. This guy has to be a Militia member, looks like he lives in some shack in the woods."

I think this is awefully judgemental from the "compassionate left" what if he was some well fed homeless person who happened to find himself a camera.
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ALL photos are real....my apoligies to 1planet

by Unbiased_VA Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 11:15 AM

I just want everyone to know that all photos are real... I used poor word usage by saying doctored... I meant to mean one sided... nonetheless... I'm sorry to 1planet , ...his photos are 100 percent real!!!

Unbiased OUT
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To Judgemental

by 1Planet1People Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 1:10 PM

You’re right. I was poking fun at him because he was a real jerk who came up to me and out of no-where started saying that if I published any picture of him he would sue me. But, a person's economic level does not determine a person's worth. So you are right, my comments could easily be offensive to people, and I did not intend on insulting others. I am sorry for that.
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Did you marry a child, Apache?

by The Enquirer Monday, May. 30, 2005 at 3:16 PM

"Way to go. I hope she doesn't grow up thinking "we" and "they" when she looks at ethnic groups. Hope she doesn't become a racist too."

What do you mean by "grow up"? Did you marry a child?
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to the poem quoters

by cult of anzaldua Tuesday, May. 31, 2005 at 1:29 AM
Something to chew on....

"Voyager, there are no bridges, one builds them as one walks."


"The actual physical borderland that I'm dealing with in this book is the Texas-U.S., Southwest/ Mexican border. The psychological borderlands, the sexual borderlands, and spiritual borderlands are not particular to the Southwest. In fact the Borderlands are physically present wherever two or more cultures edge each other, where people of different races occupy the same territory, where under, lower, middle and upper classes touch, where the space between two individuals shrinks with intimacy"--Gloria Anzaldua. Second Edition, with a new introduction by Sonia Saldivar-Hull, author of Feminism on the Border, and an in-depth interview with Gloria Anzaldua.


"What we say and what we do ultimately comes back to us so let us own our responsibility, place it in our hands and carry it with dignity and strength."

One interviewer asks, "So what did you have to do in order to be true to [God]?" Anzaldua replies, "Believe in him, and this is the great rip off: All religions impoverish life because they renounce it. They especially divorce the flesh from the spirit or the mind. To me, it always seemed like this division is where the oppression of myself as a woman, as a lesbian, as a brown woman, as a working-class woman comes in. To me religion has always upheld the status quo; it makes institutions rigid and dogmatic"

"Most people my age or younger have burned out and become disillusioned. It's the pits right now. Many young people of color have no hope, do not see alliances working, do not see white people reaching out, and do not see the possibility of white people changing perspectives or allowing change to come into their lives, but I do"

Interviewer: Well, I think that many people do feel a powerful connection to what you wrote. And it says a great deal about how you said it, that it has this effect on people.

Anzaldua: I think what's probably one of the riskier things that I did in Borderlands/La Frontera was to open up the concept of mestizaje, of the new mestiza and hybridity, to be non-exclusive, to be inclusive of white people and people from other communities. And the risk was in having again Euro-Americans take over the space. And I don't think that's happened very much. I think it has happened with these people with the short-term memory who forget to cite, but I think most of the critics and the readers have been very generous with me.

"I am playing with myself,
I am playing with the world's soul,
I am the dialogue between myself and el espiritu del mundo.
I change myself,
I change the world."

Anzaldua: I think it began when I graduated from high school. I went to college off and on--I would work a year or two and then drop out for a year or two so that I could save money so then I could go back to work. And I was doing my student teaching, and I was still working in the fields when I got my B.A., on weekends. I began to teach after I got my B.A. and I began to go to grad school to get my M.A. in the summertime when the public schools were closed. And I think that's when I started articulating the scholar, the philosopher, the breaking away--the breaking away was after high school. And I literally left south Texas, went to Denton, which is north of Dallas, eight, nine-hundred miles--to get away from the constricted, cage-like thing in my family and my community. Then I had to leave Texas completely in order to really allow myself to become who I am, and to experience other realities and other worlds and be part of other communities. I had to literally leave the state and my community. In some ways I've become estranged from it; but in other ways I've become closer to it.


 Interviewer: I would like to follow up on part of what you're saying here in terms of a comment that you made in an interview with AnnLouise Keating. You mentioned that your lesbian perspective had evolved. Can you say something about what that perspective means to you now, and how it influences your writing today?

Anzaldua: Yes. It has to do with the terms and labels of identity. When I was growing up in south Texas the word "queer" was very much what we called these people. Or "de las otras," which means "of the others," that I wrote about in Borderlands. Marimachas and marimachos, jotitas, jotas, tortilleras: these were labels and terms in the Chicano working-class community that I grew up in. When I went and left home and became part of the women of color community and came out as a lesbian, I started not liking to use the word "lesbian." When I would dialogue with myself or with other women of color, I would use "dyke" or "queer." And then with Chicanas I started using the word patlache. And patlache is a Nahuatl word that means "dyke," "lesbian." And I started seeing that what the white lesbian community was imposing on me was a Eurocentric view, a label that derived from Greece, Sappho, and was very white and that I wanted to articulate my queerness because it was different from their queerness and so I needed a different kind of language. And when I came out, the only community there for me were a few Chicana dykes and the white lesbian community, so I embraced their books and their theories, and the way they dressed and everything. And I think all of us do this, we go with--if you're a dyke of color and there's not enough in your community, you.... So I feel very close to the white dykes, and I have a love of them and their community and their art and their writing and their theories, but it began to be very constrictive in that I thought I was in a cage and they were defining the bars; and I needed to break out of that cage, just like I needed to break out of the cage of my family and the nationalistic cage of just being a Chicana and nothing more. I didn't want to just be a lesbian and nothing more. In the first place, I wasn't a lesbian, because a lesbian is somebody who is white and middle class. And so I started chafing at the boundaries and limitations set by the white lesbian community and I particularly started resenting the writing agenda--if you're a dyke, you only write about this content. So I would be put into that constraint both by heterosexual, Eurocentric society as to what a dyke writer was, and also by the lesbian community into what a lesbian writer was supposed to write about and be.

"Voyager, there are no bridges, one builds them as one walks."
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Request re: Garden Grove photos

by John Earl Tuesday, Jun. 28, 2005 at 12:35 PM
john@ocorganizer.com

To whom it may concern:

I would like to request persmission to use some of the photos of the Garden Grove demonstration on our web site at www.ocorganizer.com and in the newspaper, Orange County Organizer, but I am not sure who to contact. The photos would accompany two interviews, one with Jim Gilchrist, another with Dr. Gilbert Gonzalez, on the immigration controversy, US Imperialism, etc. Please contact me asap at the email address above (john@ocorganizer.com) Thank you very much!
John Earl
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