{"article":{"id":125765,"heading":"  Neo-con's Definition of Freedom","author":"D. Burbeck","created":"2005-05-01 02:48:31","modified":"2005-05-04 23:06:31","last_modified":"Thu, 05 May 2005 06:06:31","article":"<p>The freedom that Lincoln gave to the slaves is the classic  <br>  <br> case, and I will not give a lengthy discourse of it, for it  <br>  <br> is what we all know and understand. But this is only one  <br>  <br> variation of the definition of \"freedom\". <br><br> Consider the experience that we all have had - being <br>  <br> robbed or mugged or burglarized. Did the Police do <br>  <br> anything more than take a report? Did they actively <br>  <br> investigate and pursue the perpetrators? NO. Their <br>  <br> excuse would be, of course, that they cannot devote <br>  <br> detectives to every small crime that is reported. And <br>  <br> we all accept that. \"Buy some insurance and get back <br>  <br> to your TV.\" The point is that people are actually free <br>  <br> to live a life of crime.............. until they get caught <br>  <br> red-handed. <br><br> But look at the other extreme of the criminal world. <br>  <br> Look at the corporate criminals. People like Michael <br>  <br> Milken, Fastow, Ebbers, etc. etc., and ask yourself - <br>  <br> Do these types of criminals get the justice they deserve? <br><br> Milken was the only one of dozens of shysters who <br>  <br> was even taken to court, and his punishment was a <br>  <br> laughable 18 months in minimum security and a fine <br>  <br> of $200 million - when he and his gang ripped off <br>  <br> close to $50 BILLION  from the public and the <br>  <br> Government. <br><br> Now your starting to see the definition of freedom <br>  <br> that is cemented in the minds of our elected officials. <br>  <br> At a press conference during the massive looting in <br>  <br> Iraq, Donald Rumsfeld was being grilled with questions <br>  <br> when he put his head down, began shuffling his papers <br>  <br> getting ready to walk away, and said \"These people are <br>  <br> free now. Free to become criminals.\" <br><br> The freedom to be bad......and receive a slap on the <br>  <br> wrist is a wonderful freedom. $9 Billion in Iraq totally  <br>  <br> vanishing is a pretty good example, but a much more  <br>  <br> lucrative game is the corporations gaining complete  <br>  <br> control of the Federal Government (and proof is out  <br>  <br> there that they did it with the control of the E-voting  <br>  <br> machines). <br><br> The corporate world is becoming free to do anything <br>  <br> they want -  destroy air quality, poison the water <br>  <br> supply, not be sued for harm to citizens, etc. They are <br>  <br> having Congress pass laws that take rights away from <br>  <br> citizens that have been in place for over 200 years. And <br>  <br> they are having Congress REMOVE laws that took <br>  <br> decades to get passed (deregulation). And a funny thing, <br>  <br> Congress is not updating the punishments for crime that, <br>  <br> nowadays, amounts into BILLIONS of dollars in theft. <br><br> Having the freedom to own a post office box in the <br>  <br> Cayman Islands and avoid hundreds of millions of <br>  <br> dollars in taxes, the freedom to buy into shady tax <br>  <br> shelters and avoid hundreds of millions in taxes, the <br>  <br> freedom to move operations to a communist dictatorship <br>  <br> and avoid hundreds of millions of dollars in wages and <br>  <br> benefits, the freedom to pay themselves  astronomical <br>  <br> salaries and options, the freedom to shovel profits into <br>  <br> off-shore accounts, the freedom to keep the white collar <br>  <br> criminal code 100 years behind the times, the freedom to <br>  <br> decimate communities with Walmarts while sending sons <br>  <br> and daughters off to fight in illegal wars, the freedom to <br>  <br> break long-standing nuclear arms treaties with 180 nations <br>  <br> of the world, the freedom to break conflicts of interest rules,  <br>  <br> the freedom to give mega wealth to your family and friends  <br>  <br> for war profiteering, the freedom to keep the people in  <br>  <br> turmoil over threats to their social and physical security  <br>  <br> in order to keep their minds off of all of the above..... <br>  <br> these are the freedoms that the neo-cons love. And if you think <br>  <br> the Democrats are the answer.......think again.......they feed <br>  <br> from the exact same trough as the Republicans. (Just check <br>  <br> your Democrat's voting record to be sure.) <br><br> The really sad part is that these \"freedoms\" are being handed <br>  <br> over to them by a complaisant  electorate that has a remote <br>  <br> control in their hands and would much rather watch a good <br>  <br> game on TV than stay informed about the sadistic game <br>  <br> being played on THEM! And the neo-cons are banking on it, <br>  <br> because they are quite aware that there are very tough times  <br>  <br> ahead! <br><br> <\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"It is imperative that the American people understand\r\nwhat this word means to the neo-cons.\r\n\r\n\r\n","numcomment":20,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2005\/05\/125765.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":125767,"heading":"Pratap Chaterjee presentation about corruption in Iraq","article":"See the Pratap Chaterjee presentation about corruption in Iraq this Sunday (May 1st, 2005) on C-SPAN 2 via the following URL:\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.booktv.org\/schedule\/index.asp?schedID=343\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.booktv.org\/General\/index.asp?segID=5577&schedID=343\r\n\r\nTheologian Calls for Response to 9\/11 - C-Span 4\/30\/05\r\n \r\n \r\nhttp:\/\/www.itszone.co.uk\/zone0\/viewtopic.php?t=33855\r\n \r\n \r\nLos Angeles Times Reporter courageously admits that US Middle East Policy Motivation for 9\/11 Attack (on C-SPAN 2 this Saturday - April 30th, 2005): \r\n \r\nhttp:\/\/www.warwithoutend.co.uk\/zone0\/viewtopic.php?t=33754","author":"truthseeker","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-01 05:56:57","modified":"2005-05-01 05:56:57","fileurl":""},{"id":125848,"heading":"Hey, Bush Admirer","article":"What the hell are you smokin?\r\n\r\nLabor Unions ..........dangerous to democracy?\r\n\r\nYou had best check out the meaning of Democracy, child.\r\n\r\nThe Democratic Party.......dangerous to democracy? \r\n\r\nWell, this democratic party that  bows to Bush like a frightened slave.......ok.......won't argue the point.\r\n\r\nBut, BA, please try to articulate just what it is in the above paragraphs that you don't agree with.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"D. Burbeck","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-03 02:20:48","modified":"2005-05-03 02:20:48","fileurl":""},{"id":125857,"heading":"Are you kidding?","article":"This troll is one of the major reasons the 'ignore' feature was installed.\r\n The new readers are taken  in with this obvious baiting technique.\r\nJust one of many trolls whom infest this page and chant in unison about leftists or even Democrats, as if there were some kind of dividing line between the rulers and always provoking wedge issues.  Get the picture? ","author":"About BA","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-03 08:56:20","modified":"2005-05-03 08:56:20","fileurl":""},{"id":125876,"heading":"BA","article":"Don't take BA seriously. He's the kind of guy who thinks that nurses unions threaten democracy but Dr. James Dobson, the CIA, and the crackpots and fanatics around Bush do not.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-03 15:41:01","modified":"2005-05-03 15:41:01","fileurl":""},{"id":125899,"heading":"you're nuts BA","article":"you wrote this\r\n-non-productive members of society (who conveniently happen to outnumber the productive members)-\r\nThe majority of people are the ones you consider &quot; non productive&quot;?\r\n\r\nSeek help.","author":"Us","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-03 22:32:34","modified":"2005-05-03 22:32:34","fileurl":""},{"id":125907,"heading":"speaking of numbers","article":"All national polls indicate that the liberal views detested by Bush Admirer's select group of 'pullers' what ever that means, like social security, care for the young, the old, the sick and even the poor are in the vast majority.  Hence the great effort to demonize the 'liberals' in order to manufacture a perception of marginalization with in fact does not exist.  In other words BA's in the minority.  Like insane people. \r\n","author":"Us","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-04 00:57:33","modified":"2005-05-04 00:57:33","fileurl":""},{"id":125917,"heading":"Bush Admirer","article":"Without the blood suckers of the Fed and all the criminals in this administration we might be able to do all of those things.","author":"Bob","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-04 10:41:19","modified":"2005-05-04 10:41:19","fileurl":""},{"id":125920,"heading":"fresca","article":"...you're a fool.","author":"Bob....","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-04 13:11:15","modified":"2005-05-04 13:11:15","fileurl":""},{"id":125921,"heading":"Eeeeowww yuk","article":"it used my nick.\r\nMust scrub myself well with a disinfectant in a long hot shower.\r\neeeooowwww!","author":"Bob","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-04 13:30:38","modified":"2005-05-04 13:30:38","fileurl":""},{"id":125923,"heading":"fresca","article":"Now that was a very well crafted and stunningly clever retort.\r\n\r\nYou still got it my man.","author":"Bob....","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-04 14:27:05","modified":"2005-05-04 14:27:05","fileurl":""},{"id":125924,"heading":"What ?!?!","article":"Dear Mr. Bush Admirer, \r\n   The task was not to disrupt the Mayday march. The task was to show what our banner said, &quot;dignity and respect for the working class&quot;. Thank you for your opinion, I guess. (A)","author":"RiveR","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-04 14:44:04","modified":"2005-05-04 14:44:04","fileurl":""},{"id":125943,"heading":"freedom","article":"Because the United States never experienced full-scale feudalism or absolute monarchy, all kinds of evils are defended in the name of &quot;freedom&quot; and &quot;liberty&quot; rather than in the name of hereditary privelege - even if the latter is the real explanation. The following have all been defended here in the name of liberty:\r\nthe freedom to own slaves\r\nthe freedom to beat one's wife\r\nthe freedom to abuse one's children\r\nthe freedom to pay workers poverty-level wages\r\nthe freedom to deny California farm workers toilets in the fields\r\nthe freedom to discriminate against Blacks and other minorities in hiring, education, business services, hotel accomidations and other matters\r\nthe freedom to force Christian religious practices on believers of other religions or upon athiests and agnostics\r\nthe freedom to subject one's employees to unsafe working conditions\r\nthe freedom to sexually harass women\r\nthe freedom to persecute gays and lesbians\r\nthe freedom to make obscene profits at the expense of the rest of society and of Third World peoples\r\nthe freedom to steal land from the Indians\r\nthe freedom of the US and Israel to flout UN resolutons and decisions of the World Court but to insist that other nations obey them\r\nthe freedom to pollute the atmosphere and water\r\nthe freedom to drive other species into extinction\r\nthe freedom to hunt or torture animals\r\nthe freedom of private individuals to own machine guns or even tanks.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-04 19:01:50","modified":"2005-05-04 19:01:50","fileurl":""},{"id":125957,"heading":"Neocon madness","article":"Look BA, if there's one thing I've learned mixing it up with the lefties, it's that you can't get even two of them to agree what a &quot;neocon&quot; is.\r\n\r\nThey don't know!!  \r\n\r\nIt just sounds ominous plus there's that 'con' at the end.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's as meaningless a term as when civil rights moron cum talk show host Leo Tyrrell cries, &quot;Red meat Racism!&quot;  ","author":"WTF King","parent_id":125765,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-05-04 22:48:44","modified":"2005-05-04 22:48:44","fileurl":""}]}