{"article":{"id":124436,"heading":"Mickel tells jury he shot officer","author":"By Jim Schultz, Record Searchlight","created":"2005-03-31 15:24:34","modified":"2013-11-11 00:32:57","last_modified":"Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:32:57","article":"

March 25, 2005

COLUSA – Andrew Mickel, on trial for the 2002 murder of Red Bluff police officer David Mobilio, used his opening statement today to confess to jurors that he fired the fatal shots.

\"I did ambush and kill Officer David Mobilio,\" the 25-year-old Washington resident told the panel.

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But in his brief statement Mickel, who faces a possible death penalty if convicted, urged juors to hold off on their judgment and allow him to explain his actions.

Holding up a ball that was black on one side and white on the other, Mickel told jurors that the prosecutor, Red Bluff District Attorney Gregg Cohen, was painting only half the picture of what happened when Mobilio was shot on Nov. 19, 2002, as he refueled his patrol car at a North Main Street gas station in Red Bluff.

Mickel, who is representing himself at the trial, promised to supply jurors with the rest of the story.

Mobilio, 31, died at the gas pumps.

Mickel’s statement was proceeded by Cohen’s opening statement, which was identical in its brevity.

Both statements were concluded within 35 minutes after jurors first took their seats at about 9:30 a.m.

Cohen’s presentation included a short slide show with pictures of Mobilio and the gas station where he died.

Cohen retraced Mickel’s steps after the fatal attack, from Red Bluff to Oregon to Washington and finally to New Hampshire, where the suspect was captured at a motel a few days after the shooting.

Mobilio’s widow, Linda, was one of the spectators in the packed courtroom.

Cohen’s first witness was a gun shop owner who sold the alleged murder weapon to Mickel.

The trial, which is expected to last from two and a half weeks to a month, was moved to Colusa on a change of venue after a judge ruled that pretrial publicity prevented Mickel from getting a fair trial in Red Bluff. <\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Good old Andy is in the news again. Looks like the trial is on and old Andy-boy is gonna get the chair. I wonder whatt nessie, Sheepdog, and the indymedia leftists have to say about this? Old Andy is the posterchild for leftist thought. So much for that...","numcomment":59,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2005\/03\/124436.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":124437,"heading":"I'd love to get a transcript of this trial.","article":"Any of you lefties know how I can get a transcript of this trial? I wonder what old Andy is thinking about these days? Think he's still the same old proud and insolent youth that he was when he popped those Sig Sauer rounds into Officer Mobilio? I kinda doubt it. Bet he's pretty distraught. I wonder if he's found Jesus yet? Probably won't go that far til he hears the clink of the door over on death row. Yep, I bet old Andy is pretty far gone these days. You leftists been writing him fan mail?","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-31 15:28:56","modified":"2005-03-31 15:28:56","fileurl":""},{"id":124445,"heading":"Yeah, get the transcripts...","article":"...wipe the drool off your chin and keep us informed about this strange show.\r\nAnd I personally take the responsibility of this weird murder because I happen to believe in the concept of a free newswire. Anything else?\r\n\r\nChrist, Eric,have you had a heaping helping of dumbass? \r\n One of our little former (or current )military units pop and you paint the blame on the IMC. \r\nYour transparent agenda to smear anyone who believes in an open newswire is pathetic. Your outrage is of course justified in respect to the murder of an innocent victim and the grief of his family and friends as anyone who is sane would be, but get a grip. \r\n\r\nThe transcripts would be nice....\r\n \r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 01:09:11","modified":"2005-04-01 01:09:11","fileurl":""},{"id":124446,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...on the money on that one, Dog...\r\n\r\n...fuckin' wingnuts jumpin' up 'n' down wankin' over the prospect of another death...sounds like they're happy that this cop bought the farm, or else they couldn't rejoice over the prospect of another fish fry!","author":"KPC","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 01:18:50","modified":"2005-04-01 01:18:50","fileurl":""},{"id":124457,"heading":"A free newswire?","article":"You indymedia loons flatter yourselves. Any Joe Schmuckatellii could put up a website, call it a "free newsire", and then claim it's a grand contribution to humanity.\r\n\r\nBut when said newswire becomes a tablet of vitriolic anti-government expression, cop hate, and a communication tool for loony whackos to communicateto all the other whackos their deviant ploys to murder and kill ... it's time to shut the "newswire" down.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 13:25:28","modified":"2005-04-01 13:25:28","fileurl":""},{"id":124458,"heading":""...and you paint the blame on the IMC. "","article":"After all, why not?? You leftists cheered for Ward Churchill when he blamed all the "little Eichmann's" in the twin towers for the murderous actions of a few deranged religious nuts! Where are my applauds? Where's the huzzahs for my unique and critical thought?","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 13:36:00","modified":"2005-04-01 13:36:00","fileurl":""},{"id":124460,"heading":"we can discuss this...","article":"...when you stop being a mewling echo of the obvious lies of this current clique of traitors and murderers who would sell us into slavery. Apparently with your approval. You have a hell of a lot of gall to call anyone who speaks against this gang of criminals, anti American. \r\nWhen you have some original analysis beyond the laughfable conspiracy theroy of '19 savage Arabs' which you are apparently still pushing, I will respond.\r\nOtherwise I will ignore you.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 14:07:54","modified":"2005-04-01 14:07:54","fileurl":""},{"id":124463,"heading":"I'll pull yours if you pull mine","article":"But first we should ask fresca if she wants her iron lung unplugged.\r\nBut it's nice that you think of me so often.... kinda weird.\r\nHowever, don't you already have that hunk of a boyfriend you keep posting nude photos of?\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 14:28:41","modified":"2005-04-01 14:28:41","fileurl":""},{"id":124470,"heading":"fresca","article":""laughfable conspiracy theroy of '19 savage Arabs' which you are apparently still pushing, "\r\n\r\nAh yes! The classic sheepdogism. Right up there with chemtrails.\r\n\r\nA regular museum of pathology he is.\r\n\r\nBy the way, is theroy one of your Black friends?","author":"Jackpot!","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 16:22:10","modified":"2005-04-01 16:22:10","fileurl":""},{"id":124475,"heading":"yes but...","article":"do you wish for your iron lung disconnected?\r\nThink of the 'greater good to the state' in the power savings.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 16:38:57","modified":"2005-04-01 16:38:57","fileurl":""},{"id":124477,"heading":""we can discuss this..."","article":"Nothing in that post had any relevence whatsoever to the dialogue taking place in this thread. It was what we in the business call a 'non sequitur'.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 16:54:41","modified":"2005-04-01 16:54:41","fileurl":""},{"id":124489,"heading":"I think sheepdog misses the point.","article":"I don't blame "open publishing" or free speech because some whacko leftist goes out and whacks a cop. I just don't understand why this isn't a headling or front page story for Indymedia. I mean, Andy almost put you guys on the map. Now, in his moment of need, you all are going to turn your backs on him and let him fry? Where's the "FREE ANDY!" rants? Why aren't you all out protesting in front of the courthouse?\r\n\r\nYou leftists never make any sense.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 19:46:38","modified":"2005-04-01 19:46:38","fileurl":""},{"id":124492,"heading":"ok so now you are pissed...","article":"... because you can't figure us out ( who ever the hell you are talking about so gererally) and because we are not following your coloring book vision of reality.\r\nYou're really going to be pissed if you ever really get a clue who these 'insane oligarchy' are.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 20:50:23","modified":"2005-04-01 20:50:23","fileurl":""},{"id":124494,"heading":"Well, if nothing else...","article":"Mickel should be held up as a shining example of what will befall any indymedia whackos that carry this revolutionary shop talk too far. \r\n\r\nTo the gallows and all his pals turn their backs. And I like pointing it out.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-01 21:24:46","modified":"2005-04-01 21:24:46","fileurl":""},{"id":124514,"heading":"ahem...oh, Eric & fresca...","article":" \r\nBig waaa, I missed this one as fresca is capable of only being like the crotch infection she suffers from continuesly and I tend to read past her ugly little posts. \r\n"- By the way, is theroy one of your Black friends?-" \r\nLike the skirt you used to be able to wear, your racism is showing up like a pair of skanky panties. Put your knees down (figuratively of course) and refrain from showing everyone what a worthless piece of shit you are. \r\nI know people I call friends of worth and they are all sizes, shapes, hues and shades. None of them are racist assholes like you. \r\nNow as for sweet Eric, coming back to LA IMC, for another romp into his little world of good guys ( those who follow orders from their lawful superiors, even if these orders are criminal) and bad guys ( people who object to these actions and discuss this on the IMC) you know, people he wants to send to the gallows. \r\nHe is wanking that we are not approving the murder of another citizen and seems confused that 'we' don't follow the cheap script and shallow play he has written inside the huge but empty warehouse of his oversized ( but never as large as my own ) ego. Go ahead and ask nessie. He's pissed at me too. I'm so hurt. \r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-02 04:21:29","modified":"2005-04-02 04:21:29","fileurl":""},{"id":124521,"heading":"fresca","article":"Save your cryin' sheepdog. Mocking your atrocious spelling using a stereotypical Black name is hardly racist.\r\n\r\nOf course blaming an entire race for all the ills of the world, MOST of which you've fantasized to begin, is most definetely racist.\r\n\r\nThat said, I couldn't care less whether you think I'm a racist or not as the opinion of a deluded, cracker, survivalist nazi is hardly compelling stuff.\r\n\r\n","author":"save your tears","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-02 06:21:07","modified":"2005-04-02 06:21:07","fileurl":""},{"id":124522,"heading":"my spelling","article":" \r\nis certainly not perfect. Not like yours which appears to come from a drunk and often contains errors that could only be explained as someone using their teeth to type or a sloppy speakable text w\/o benefit of sober proof reading. \r\nBut you're still a racist and an asshole. Oh well. \r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-02 06:43:07","modified":"2005-04-02 06:43:07","fileurl":""},{"id":124528,"heading":"My ego *is* large.","article":"I don't deny it. I've been reeling it in a bit as of late. But I don't want to send anyone to the gallows except those that deserve to go. You know, people that cap cops in the name of "revolution" and such. Whackos.\r\n\r\nBut I'm not the judge, juryman, or executioner. Our society decides such things. And in Mickels case, the verdict is in. Sentencing to come.\r\n\r\nRevolutionary shop talk is one of those subjects best left unbreached, else someone might take it seriously and carry things too far. Weak minds. Sacrificial lambs. \r\n\r\nThat's why I like you Sheepdog, you're innocuous. Virulent, but harmless. I mean, who would ever take a conspiracy theorist like you seriously?\r\n\r\nAs far as nessie goes, he and I haven't corresponded in ages. I still cruise by his little shop of horrors from time to time and gaze the visage of the abyss. But I'm an unperson there; a ghost. Should I even think of manifesting myself in his netherworld, my demon is quickly exercised out. \r\n\r\nBut it's pretty dead and boring over there these days. Not like the old days when nessie wasn't such an authoritarian. I remember one diatribe he slung at me about having once been tear gassed and such, it was very entertaining. nessie was always fun to poke.\r\n\r\nBut I'll admit, I've learned a lot from IMC. Found out about stuff that exists that we can't get in the south. Seriously entertaining stuff, like that ant farm I had when I was a kid...","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-02 13:48:23","modified":"2005-04-02 13:48:23","fileurl":""},{"id":124531,"heading":"just the facts, man","article":"Are you going to retrieve the transcripts or what? \r\nWe're waiting for you to bring home the bacon. \r\nYou can be our IMC corespondant. Part of this evil enterprise.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-02 15:35:09","modified":"2005-04-02 15:35:09","fileurl":""},{"id":124532,"heading":"I'll see what I can do.","article":"Not sure how to go about it, but I'll write a letter or something.\r\n\r\nActually, the prosecution rested yesterday. Mickel won't make his defense until next week:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www1.redding.com\/redd\/nw_local\/article\/0,2232,REDD_17533_3664183,00.html\r\n\r\nI'm really intrigued by this case, and have been ever since it crossed the indymedia newswire. I'm still learning stuff about this Mickel that leads me to believe I'm dead right about him being a renegade revolutionary. Like this:\r\n\r\n"In 2001, he also went to Israel as part of a peace group that acted as human shields between Israelis and Palestinians, the report says, adding that Mickel also reportedly took part in World Trade Organization protests in Seattle and told his older brother that he had been bloodied there. "\r\n\r\nThis guy just sounds like he filled up on leftist koolaid and went straight off the deep end.\r\n\r\nBut for you Sheepdog, I'll make this my own personal baby and see what I can find out. If I can get the transcripts, I'll go through them and write an unbiased (if you can believe that) article on what facts I find. I'm no journalist though.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-02 16:24:29","modified":"2005-04-02 16:24:29","fileurl":""},{"id":124533,"heading":"EXLNT","article":"The transcripts would be good and of course the obligatory commentary we will endure. We can, however provide our own analysis if the transcipts are available. But thanks, as always, for your input.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-02 16:42:31","modified":"2005-04-02 16:42:31","fileurl":""},{"id":124590,"heading":"suicide by cop","article":"It sounds like a case of "suicide by cop". Someone wants to die so bad, that they shoot a cop, so they will get caught and shot.\r\n\r\nAnother guy in Stockton did the same thing. This guy was a vet (too).\r\n\r\nJust a suggestion to the leftist scene:\r\n\r\nHe was circulating in the leftist scene, and people should have been more alert to his situation and had the resources for him to get some mental help. In particular, anyone who volunteers to be a human shield should be checked out, because, that's like asking to be killed.\r\n\r\nUsually, when someone comes along with rhetoric like "we're at war with the capitalist system" or "we have to escalete the situation with violence to get some real change" or something like that, they just get ignored or dismissed as a cop. Then they end up on the newswire as their only refuge. It would be good to have some kind of mental health material circulating in the scene, so people on the edge might pick it up and seek some help, group counseling, or whatever.\r\n\r\nAlso, disillusioned war vets are coming back, and will start to contact peace activists looking for help. We need to be able to refer them to clinics that help people with PTSD, and deal with anything they may have seen or done.\r\n\r\nWe all want change for a better world, and part of that better world is happier people. People are happiest when they're living in a situation of peace, justice, fairness, compassion, and community.\r\n\r\n(PS - We are not at war with the system at this time. Escalating violence not get you anything if you lack popular support. We have gained a lot of that, though.)\r\n","author":"more rational","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-03 21:39:01","modified":"2005-04-03 21:39:01","fileurl":""},{"id":124627,"heading":""suicide by cop"","article":"In case you haven't figured it out yet, more rational, Andrew Mickel is not dead. He did NOT commit "suicide by cop". He killed a cop. And then he bragged about it. He explain quite vividly why he did it here:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/sf.indymedia.org\/news\/2002\/11\/1545326.php\r\n\r\nThis guy basically just filled up on leftist hate and stepped over the line. And now, he's going to pay.\r\n\r\nI'm trying to get the court transcripts from the Tehma county court, just for giggles. If I get them, I'll upload for all you lefties to gawk over...","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-04 17:19:13","modified":"2005-04-04 17:19:13","fileurl":""},{"id":124653,"heading":"Eric...","article":" \r\nPlease do at least me, A favor. Or a couple of them. \r\nStop with this shallow bullshit labeling like 'leftist' and other trite word games as they are beneath you when you have shown credible analysis in the past without any meaningless buzz words. That is, unless you truly believe that I care what you call me or even if you think you know anything what so ever about me except what I chose to tell you which is already enough for you to realize I don't fit into any of your little cutouts. \r\nSecond, please don't abuse this newswire anymore with deliberate loading BW wise, as it also is beneath you. \r\nI AM interested in this case for parallel reasons, if not parallel motivations. \r\nThank you.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 02:13:42","modified":"2005-04-05 02:13:42","fileurl":""},{"id":124668,"heading":"Fuck you, Sheepdog.","article":"Don't address me in that patronizing tone, you condescending prick.\r\n\r\nFirst, I haven't "abused" this "newswire" in any way, shape, form or fashion. I certainly have not attacked it's Bandwidth. You obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I don't even hardly post on Indymedia (LA or otherwise) any longer, and when I did, I did so responsibly for the most part, being considerate of other people's property. So kiss the left butt cheek, bitch.\r\n\r\nSecondly, if you're not a leftist then quit your whining. If the shoe doesn't fit, then obviously I'm not talking about YOU. It's a fact that Indymedia is a haven for communists, socialists, and fringe leftists all of which are synonymous with hating America. If you don't hate America (as I suspect you are one of the few regulars in this forum that doesn't) then why does it bother you that you are inherently linked to them by bedding yourself with them here? Lie with dogs, get up with flees.\r\n\r\n\r\nMickel filled up on LEFTIST hate, and that's how I see it. I don't see people wanting to smash the state at of the rightwing sites I visit. If Mickel would have put on a Klan sheet or a Nazi uniform and went out killing in the name of ethnic clensing I'd blame the wingnut extremicists. But he didn't do that. And I calls 'em like I sees 'em.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 16:18:05","modified":"2005-04-05 16:18:05","fileurl":""},{"id":124670,"heading":"Oh my... such a fit you're having","article":"most likely because you don't like to have your past actions, like loading HUGE jpgs or fucking pages of N. Korean propaganda into a thread for kicks.. Oh, that's right, you don't remember or that wasn't you. I'll do some digging and show it to you just to rub your suddenly sensitive nose into it, in front of everyone. \r\nGit chew. \r\nYou reek and drip condescention but as the saying goes, you can dish it out but ya jist can't take it. \r\nPop the head off a chicken just for me, you pompous ( and I mean this in a fuzy, warm way ) cracker. \r\nFeel better now? I know I do.\r\n","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 16:42:26","modified":"2005-04-05 16:42:26","fileurl":""},{"id":124671,"heading":"Tsk tsk.","article":"Was that the oh-so-high-and-mighty Sheepdong that just called me a racist epithet? Whodda thunk it. I'd almost be insulted if I actually gave a shit.\r\n\r\nBut you're right. I don't know anything about you any more than you'd like to tell us: you're a wannabe internet propagandist with a penchant for the conspiratorial. \r\n\r\nYes, you fit quite nicely into one of my neat little boxes. I file you under "F" for "Fictional characters".","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 16:55:46","modified":"2005-04-05 16:55:46","fileurl":""},{"id":124672,"heading":"....","article":"As not to load too much into any one post may the afore mentioned transcripts be issued in sections for easy assimilation? And commentary?\r\nThank you.","author":"Suggestions for the transcripts","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 17:02:29","modified":"2005-04-05 17:02:29","fileurl":""},{"id":124673,"heading":"....","article":"As not to load too much into any one post may the afore mentioned transcripts be issued in sections for easy assimilation? And commentary?\r\nThank you.","author":"Suggestions for the transcripts","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 17:03:47","modified":"2005-04-05 17:03:47","fileurl":""},{"id":124674,"heading":"And I may have loaded up some N Korean spam","article":"I don't remember. I'd have to see the context of the discussion. I probably got pissed off at the blatant dishonesty or anti-Americanism of some leftist dick head. I do tend to counter inane divel with inane drivel of my own (GIGO). So maybe I did do that, but I'd hardly call it abusing the newswire or attacking it's bandwidth.\r\n\r\nAnyway, I honestly don't give two squirts. Piss off, lefty.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 17:05:00","modified":"2005-04-05 17:05:00","fileurl":""},{"id":124675,"heading":""Transcripts"","article":"You're welcome to get your own copy. I am not yet sure\r\nthe release policy by the Colusa County Superior Court but you would need to\r\ncontact them. I am simply send them a letter. I am sure they will be charging a significant paperwork fee. \r\n\r\nHere is there info:\r\nStreet Address: 547 Market Street, Colusa, CA 95932, Mailing Address: 532\r\nOak Street, Colusa, CA 95932, Telephone Number: (530) 458-5149, Fax Number:\r\n(530) 458-2230.\r\n","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 17:10:06","modified":"2005-04-05 17:10:06","fileurl":""},{"id":124676,"heading":"But you ARE a cracker","article":"How's that racist. It just means an ignorant, over opinionated, poorly educated self centered cracker barrel philosopher. Taking about how their narrow view of the world, unhindered by compassion or ... let me think of the word oh yes, humility\/humanity. Unable to see the complexities which provide the backdrop to their 2 dimensional opinions. \r\nYou call it whining, I call it care. \r\nWhat you consider as a strength, I consider a weakness.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 17:15:27","modified":"2005-04-05 17:15:27","fileurl":""},{"id":124677,"heading":""How's that racist."","article":""It just means an ignorant, over opinionated, poorly educated self centered cracker barrel philosopher. "\r\n\r\n\r\nMain Entry: crack\u00b7er\r\nPronunciation: 'kra-k&r\r\nFunction: noun\r\n1 chiefly dialect : a bragging liar : BOASTER\r\n2 : something that makes a cracking or snapping noise: as a : FIRECRACKER b : the snapping end of a whiplash : SNAPPER c : a paper holder for a party favor that pops when the ends are pulled sharply\r\n3 plural : NUTCRACKER\r\n4 : a dry thin crispy baked bread product that may be leavened or unleavened\r\n5 a usually disparaging : a poor usually Southern white b capitalized : a native or resident of Florida or Georgia -- used as a nickname\r\n6 : the equipment in which cracking (as of petroleum) is carried out\r\n\r\n\r\nI wonder which definition of the word "cracker" Sheepdong is referring to. I just don't see it up there...","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 17:24:22","modified":"2013-11-11 00:32:58","fileurl":""},{"id":124678,"heading":""ignorant philosopher"","article":"I'm going to tell you some stuff about me, sheepdong, just so you'll know how ignorant I am.\r\n\r\nI have a Bachelors Degree in Electronics Engineering.\r\n\r\nI served in the United States Navy for ten years.\r\n\r\nI've travelled and lived abroad in more than two dozen countries, including every continent except Antarctica.\r\n\r\nIn my current profession I make more than $100k per year.\r\n\r\nI have a wife of 16 years, and two very intelligent children.\r\n\r\nI would give my life for my country if called upon to do so.\r\n\r\nI would have no problem taking the lives of others in the defense of my country, and my children's way of life.\r\n\r\nHumanitarianism to me means doing what is required to ensure the survival of democracy and freedom. I've been to many places that don't have those things. And they envy them. You obviously haven't.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 17:38:59","modified":"2005-04-05 17:38:59","fileurl":""},{"id":124679,"heading":"Number One","article":"yep, I was more correct than I thought. \r\nYou're right. \r\nNumber one. \r\nA boasting liar. \r\n...ooh ooh, I guess I did abuse the newswire just a bit.... \r\nHa ha ha \r\nDon't make me call dickweed on you anymore sweet Eric, just show us the meat. \r\nYou can garnish it with horseshit later.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 18:00:07","modified":"2005-04-05 18:00:07","fileurl":""},{"id":124680,"heading":"Imagine that.","article":"Sheepdong thinks " A boasting liar." = "an ignorant philosopher".\r\n\r\nIn Sheepdong's world, you can assign whatever meaning you like to various groups of words.\r\n\r\nHere, let me try: \r\n\r\nSheepdog, you're a connoisseur of flatulent , colicky sapience.\r\n\r\nThat means you're an ignorant ass.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 18:12:20","modified":"2005-04-05 18:12:20","fileurl":""},{"id":124681,"heading":"A boasting liar." + "an ignorant philosopher"","article":" \r\nwhich, as you know, and as in your case, are not mutually exclusive. \r\nCome back when you are off your stool.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 18:18:04","modified":"2005-04-05 18:18:04","fileurl":""},{"id":124682,"heading":"I like you better when you're off the wagon.","article":"How many days sober? Amazing what sobriety can do for all those hallicuinations of government agents peering in one's windows.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 18:24:58","modified":"2005-04-05 18:24:58","fileurl":""},{"id":124683,"heading":"I said...","article":"...come back when you're quite finished pouting, in the corner, on your special stool with that large conical cap.\r\nBut on your behalf I might crack open an Arrogant Bastard Ale.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 18:32:31","modified":"2005-04-05 18:32:31","fileurl":""},{"id":124684,"heading":"visit Arrogant Bastard Ale","article":"http:\/\/www.arrogantbastard.com\/faq\/\r\n\r\nnah nah, you ain't worthey.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 18:41:58","modified":"2005-04-05 18:41:58","fileurl":""},{"id":124688,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"derelict:"I'm going to tell you some stuff about me, sheepdong, just so you'll know how ignorant I am. \r\nI served in the United States Navy for ten years."\r\n\r\n\r\n...thanks for clearing that up.\r\n","author":"KPC","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 19:15:54","modified":"2005-04-05 19:15:54","fileurl":""},{"id":124698,"heading":"well you see, Popeye...","article":" \r\nEric has this vision of himself, as a menace to evil doers every where. Kinda like Underdog ( my younger cousin and commercial sellout, the ass ) and Tarzan with just a touch of Lex Luther. Diplomacy is not his long suit. \r\nToo bad he never got into R. Crumb.","author":" \r\nSheepdog's inner sensitive nature spea","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-05 23:39:54","modified":"2005-04-05 23:39:54","fileurl":""},{"id":124703,"heading":"One? Or two Scooby snacks?","article":"I am a menace to evil does, such as communists, socialists, and leftists that hate the American system so bad they long to go out and kill cops to make a voice for themselves. I menace these idiots by siding against them and laughing at them when they get their just desserts. Andy Mickel will soon get his just desserts (I think it will be fruit flamb\u00e9). And coming from someone who\u2019s whole world is a Scooby Doo re-run, it\u2019s not surprising that your metric for those you don\u2019t understand consist of channel thirteen cartoon characters. Perhaps sheepdong needs a Scooby snack?","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-06 09:32:11","modified":"2013-11-11 00:32:58","fileurl":""},{"id":124706,"heading":"waaa- waaaa","article":"Don't have a TV.\r\nha ha ha ha\r\nOh yeah, Scooby Doo. Ha ha ha. I forgot that you DO watch TV.\r\nWhat exactly is a Scooby snack?\r\n'Riding around, robbing banks, all wacked out on Scooby Snacks-'\r\nYou're into the new music, what are they refering to?","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-06 11:17:54","modified":"2005-04-06 11:17:54","fileurl":""},{"id":124823,"heading":"30 Minutes","article":"That's how long it took yesterday for the jury to convict Andrew Mickel. The dumb son-of-a-bitch didn't even put up a defense. \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www1.redding.com\/redd\/nw_local\/article\/0,2232,REDD_17533_3677115,00.html\r\n\r\nWell, who didn't see that coming from a mile away? I've been telling you leftists he was going to spanked for two and half years now.\r\n\r\nNow the only question is when he gets life or death. I'm betting on death, but knowing what pussies you all are out in California, the smart money would be on life.\r\n\r\nSo much for the transcripts. The only interesting thing would have been to see what sort of defense this guy could muster. Since he didn't have one I don't suppose there's much point to it.\r\n\r\nWhat gets me about this loser is this here:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www1.redding.com\/redd\/nw_local\/article\/0,2232,REDD_17533_3680431,00.html\r\n\r\n"Acting as his own attorney, Mickel said he didn\u2019t mean to cause suffering and loss for Mobilio\u2019s family. He said the killing was a statement about the government intruding on people\u2019s lives, including law enforcement infringing on the right to bear arms and unlawfully detaining citizens."\r\n\r\nNow, re-read this lame asses manifesto:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/sf.indymedia.org\/news\/2002\/11\/1545326.php\r\n\r\nDoes this guys sound like a gun rights activist to you? Where in that leftist diatribe does he mention anything about the 2nd Ammendment or guns rights? I see a whole lot of blather about how wicked the corporations are, and the nasty mean old World Trade Organization and World Bank, and he even gives a shout out to his Indymedia brothers (and sisters). But there's nothing in that rant about championing gun rights.\r\n\r\nAnyway, let's see what the sentence is going to be. I can't wait.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-08 17:49:45","modified":"2013-11-11 00:32:58","fileurl":""},{"id":124824,"heading":"no transcripts huh?","article":" \r\n"I'd love to get a transcript of this trial." \r\nOh well, \r\nNow no one knows why this VERY peculiar event occurred. Even if you believe the 'leftist koolaid theroy. Also peculiar is that the local media, it seems, has an anti-gun agenda from what you posted.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-08 18:30:15","modified":"2005-04-08 18:30:15","fileurl":""},{"id":124851,"heading":"I'm still looking into it.","article":"I don't really have an interest in the transcripts now that Mickel decided not to put up a defense. What's the point? I've written the Colusa County Court and if they don't charge an arm\/leg I'll get them just for you, sheepdog. \r\n\r\nAs far as who has the anti-gun agenda here, I don't know. But it's obvious to even the casual observer that Mickel didn't kill that cop to protest gun legislation. I think I'll write the author of that article a little email.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-09 09:14:21","modified":"2005-04-09 09:14:21","fileurl":""},{"id":124853,"heading":"A lot of great articles on this story this week","article":"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/articles\/A24016-2005Apr3.html","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-09 11:04:28","modified":"2005-04-09 11:04:28","fileurl":""},{"id":124854,"heading":"just a few questions","article":"I'm curious as to how this individual supported himself and who he was affiliated with. His military unit and training. Jobs he had, You know, what's behind this charactor...\r\nWith a K100 \/yr (gross?) it shouldn't be too big a bite. It is also curious that the reporting was so shallow for the profile.\r\nThank you.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-09 11:05:00","modified":"2005-04-09 11:05:00","fileurl":""},{"id":124855,"heading":"He was a ranger.","article":"I don't know the specific details of his life, but his parents are both college professors. I'm sure they have no shortage of income in their family.\r\n\r\nIt's good to see others besides myself are picking up on this story:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/littlegreenfootballs.com\/weblog\/?entry=15344_The_Indymedia_Murderer&only=yes","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-09 11:08:51","modified":"2005-04-09 11:08:51","fileurl":""},{"id":124861,"heading":"Heh heh heh","article":"Look at the leftist dishonesty. Click the Little Green Footballs link I posted above and see where it takes you.","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-09 12:12:59","modified":"2005-04-09 12:12:59","fileurl":""},{"id":124863,"heading":"Thanks for posting link","article":"-Someone else [ that guy, again] worried that the independent media sites, which are open forums and generally take a left-leaning stand against the Iraq war, the Bush administration and excesses of global corporate capitalism, was serving as a kind of "incubator . . . a magnet for deranged losers." \r\n hard emotional rhetoric, isn't it? Your kind of stamping.\r\nMy take is more along these lines. \r\n>"I'm worried about playing into their hands. Shooting that cop will be remembered as the first major step in publicly criminalizing anti-corporate activism."< \r\nand this gem from Andy: \r\n"I killed a cop in Red Bluff, California, in an effort to protest police brutality" Talk about self inflicted gut shooting. \r\nthat, together with the anti-gun agenda being played upon, is interesting. So far, players that are mentioned in the article are of interest to me as well as his MOS if he was a Ranger, why not a hard stripe as in any of the combat specialties? I know I've been out for a few years, but this is curious. \r\nAlso I would like to see more background on these people. I'll do some digging. \r\nGriffin House \r\nBen Poston \r\nSara Rideout Huntington \r\nSpringfield Police Chief Steve Moody \r\nMark Sisti \r\n 'Sisti got a mental health expert to examine Mickel and his writings. That report was sealed by the court, Sisti says. His client fought him all the way. \r\n \r\n"Significant psychiatric disorders were identified," \r\n \r\nNo kidding.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-09 12:52:32","modified":"2005-04-09 12:52:32","fileurl":""},{"id":124871,"heading":"Interesting take.","article":"On the little green footballs site, I read a comment by someone that Mickel was probably not a full blown Ranger. Probably just took a cheesy Ranger survival course or some such. The commentor said he took one as he was gearing up for retirement and passed with no problems, then five months later had heart bypass surgery. Doesn't sound like it was all that difficult to me, but being ex-Navy I wouldn't know.\r\n\r\nI don't think Mickel was crazy as in clinically insane. His thoughts in his manifesto were too crystaline. His grammar, impeccable. He's no Charles Manson.\r\n\r\nBut I do think there are those people out there that have big egos and desparately want to amount to something in the eyes of the rest of us. People that take themselves too seriously. If these frail minds fill up on a steady diet of hate (whether it be leftwing or rightwing) at some point their minds blur the line that they eventually step over. Mickel was definitely crazy in that sense.\r\n\r\nI've sort of lost interest in all this since the guy didn't put up a defense. Sounds like he pussed out. As far as his friends\/teachers\/relatives go, I don't see the point any longer. The guy has turned out to be another hollow, frail idealist that carried his leftist agenda to its only conceivable and illogical consequence. ","author":"Eric","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-09 14:49:13","modified":"2005-04-09 14:49:13","fileurl":""},{"id":124876,"heading":"Still it's curious","article":"Ranger training is real easy, if you can go without sleep for a few days and still run with a 35 lb rucksac up and down, up and down, big and little hills.\r\nLike the boy scouts. But with neater suits. And nicer scout masters. You can bring your wife and kids to the picnic. At least Airborne. The towers at Benning were fun, eh? But hey, I was only a drill sargent. -sniff-","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-09 17:35:48","modified":"2005-04-09 17:35:48","fileurl":""},{"id":124996,"heading":""And I may have loaded up some N Korean spam" - Eric","article":"See:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.transbay.net\/~nessie\/Pages\/smashy.confesses.html","author":"heard it before","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-11 22:51:26","modified":"2005-04-11 22:51:26","fileurl":""},{"id":125333,"heading":"Fan mail address","article":"\r\nThe address to send fan mail is:\r\n\r\nAndrew Mickel\r\nTehama County Jail\r\nP.O. Box 490\r\nRed Bluff CA 96080\r\n\r\n","author":"The Hon. Tom Alciere","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-20 19:02:04","modified":"2005-04-20 19:02:04","fileurl":""},{"id":125334,"heading":"Fan mail address","article":"\r\nThe address to send fan mail is:\r\n\r\nAndrew Mickel\r\nTehama County Jail\r\nP.O. Box 490\r\nRed Bluff CA 96080\r\n\r\n","author":"The Hon. Tom Alciere","parent_id":124436,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-04-20 19:02:55","modified":"2005-04-20 19:02:55","fileurl":""},{"id":125335,"heading":"Not","article":"\r\n<