{"article":{"id":123307,"heading":"Walden Bello, Jose Maria Sison and Schisms in the Left","author":"the burningman","created":"2005-03-03 23:48:59","modified":"2013-11-11 00:32:16","last_modified":"Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:32:16","article":"<p>The Trotskyite International Socialists and various social-democrats have lend a hand in this regard. None of these forces, including Tariq Ali, Naomi Klein and other luminaries of the rad-lib left, have made similar demands that the <em>capitalist<\/em> state stop carrying out judicial proceedings or that leftists cease collaboration with the state that degrades the Philippino people. That Bello and Akbayan rely on the capitalist state for matters of &ldquo;justice&rdquo; speaks volumes about the nature of the dispute. Who isn't against thuggery and sectarianism? Considering the fact that Sison and others have plainly stated that there is no pending threat against Bello, the politics behind Bello's campaign become&nbsp; increasingly dubious. The National Democratic Front of the Philippines has released a point-by-point rebuttal.<\/p>\r\n<p>The revolutionary Philippine left has been going through a process of &ldquo;re-affirming&ldquo; its communist orientation. Since the collapse of the Marcos dictatorship (and&nbsp; state-capitalist Soviet Union) there have been many re-allignments in the Phillipines as in the rest of the world. In the 1980s, a destructive and bloody series of purges were carried out seeking &ldquo;deep penetration&rdquo; intelligence agents that led to the deaths of many innocent activists and militants. During this period, some former members of the New People's Army\/CPP gave up on the vision of a people's republic and decided to throw their lot in with the existing state. These former revolutionaries rejected basing the movement on the most oppressed, and instead began to use the foundation-funded term &ldquo;civil society.&rdquo; Jose Maria Sison, the founding chairman of the Communist Party of the Philippines, currently in political exile in the Netherlands, has recently named Bello's Akbayan comrade and former New People's Army commander Ric Reyes as the mastermind of the most vicious incidents during that time. None of those taking a stand against &ldquo;violence as a means of resolving contradictions&rdquo; bother to note who it is <em>exactly<\/em> they are getting into bed with.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>From a distance, it is always difficult to figure out the particulars of &ldquo;who shot John.&rdquo; Meaning, rather than focusing on sensational, unsubstantiated and disputed allegations, it is important to deal with the political implications of what parties and groups argue. In this case, Bello takes the money of capitalist foundations to argue for reform of institutions like the WTO while participating in the corrupt and brutal Phillipine government. The Communist Party of the Philippines is engaged in a People's War against that same government and intends to destroy institutions such as the WTO root and branch. For anti-captialists internationally, recognizing these basic dividing lines does not mean we should resolve contradictions violently. It also means we ignore them at our peril.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<p>Walden Bello is a professional counter-revolutionary in the most basic meaning of the term. He is in philosophical and practical opposition to revolutions real and possible. He may (or may not) be an honest reformist, but his&nbsp; claims that revolutionary communists are no different than &ldquo;al Qaeda,&rdquo; coupled with assertions that the Re-Affirm bloc of dedicated anti-imperialists are mere &ldquo;fronts&rdquo; for the CPP are profoundly irresponsible and dangerous. It is another way of saying to the forces of imperialism &ldquo;do what you will.&rdquo; When considered in light of the U.S. State Department's listing of the CPP as a &ldquo;terrorist&rdquo; group and active efforts to extradite Sison from the Netherlands, <em>who is threatening who's life becomes an entirely different ballgame<\/em>.<\/p>\r\n\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/burning.typepad.com","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"<p>Despite efforts by many around the world to rise above sectarianism in the face of the USA's raw imperialism, Walden Bello, a prominent critic of neo-liberalism, has <a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.focusweb.org\/main\/html\/Article573.html&quot;>launched<\/a> an international distancing campaign against the <a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.philippinerevolution.org\/index.shtml&quot;>Communist Party of the Philippines<\/a> and the democratic sectoral movements which draw political inspiration from them. Claiming that the CPP's military wing has targeted him with a \u201c<a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.philippinerevolution.org\/cgi-bin\/abshow\/abshow.pl?year=2004;month=12;day=07;edition=eng;article=08&quot;>hit list<\/a>,\u201d which in fact is a mere diagram showing the international linkages of various Phillipino parties and individuals, Bello is playing a dangerous game. Included on the diagram is Bello's <a href=&quot;http:\/\/akbayan.org\/&quot;>Akbayan<\/a> parlimentary party.<\/p>","numcomment":27,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2005\/03\/123307.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":123313,"heading":"we're all interested","article":"I can't wait to get involved in this dispute; I'll probably be devoting 11 or 12 hours per day to it. We can't have counter-revolutionary socialists interfering with the Phillipines Communist Party. Or is it the other way around. The most hillarious thing about this message is that it starts out denouncing sectarianism! There is no doubt in my mind that if the guy who wrote it ever (by some miracle) got state power he would refrain from the repressive measures of Stalin. No doubt he believes with all his heart that socialism is inseperable from freedom.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-04 01:22:30","modified":"2005-03-04 01:22:30","fileurl":""},{"id":123323,"heading":"Socialism is the freedom to be","article":"You are correct. I believe with all my heart that socialism is freedom in the real, lived sense. Right now I can vote, complain and eat shit while I pay rent, work for bosses and can't see a dentist.\r\n\r\nSocialism means democracy in everyday life.\r\n\r\nSo yeah, I guess you're right. In the meantime, the soft left has signed international petitions that repeat falsehoods that could hurt real people in real life. So as a longtime activist and writer, I took the time to compile the major points and state my thoughts. Sorry if you're above it. \r\n\r\n","author":"the burningman","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-04 04:49:48","modified":"2005-03-04 04:49:48","fileurl":""},{"id":123325,"heading":"&quot;F.S&quot;","article":"Hard work.   \r\n\r\nDiscipline.  \r\n\r\nReading.\r\n\r\nStudying.\r\n\r\nNot being a fucktard slacker in school, then or now.\r\n\r\nAvoiding drug use.\r\n\r\nAvoiding below-the belt diseases wrought by irresponsible behaviors.\r\n\r\nBelieving in one's own potential.  \r\n\r\nThese are the keys to success not just in a capitalist society, but ANY society.\r\n\r\n99% of people would rather complain than take action to change their lives for the better.   99% of people want something for nothing.    \r\n\r\nNo government program is going to &quot;save&quot; you without enslaving you.  \r\n\r\nFuck socialism.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n  \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Potsy","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-04 06:15:07","modified":"2005-03-04 06:15:07","fileurl":""},{"id":123337,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"&quot;...fucktard...&quot;\r\n\r\n...hmm, an unmistakable wingnut witticism....","author":"KPC","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-02-04 16:54:28","modified":"2005-02-04 16:54:28","fileurl":""},{"id":123339,"heading":"Potsy","article":"Thank you so much, Potsy, for your 17th century Puritan\/Calvinist sentiments and your Horatio Alger\/Calvin Coolidge ideology. What you are offering is an individutalistic solution to a social problem, which by definition can only be changed by social action. Flush that moldy ideology of yours down the pot when you get through.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-02-04 16:59:28","modified":"2005-02-04 16:59:28","fileurl":""},{"id":123341,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"shrubsucker: &quot;The central concept was to confiscate other people's property and redistribute to the political supporters of the...politicians who were hoping to gain and retain power.&quot;\r\n\r\n...pretty much sums up republican platform...\r\n\r\n...who needs the petty evils of Karl Marx when you've got the mega evils of Karl Rove!","author":"KPC","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-02-04 17:09:04","modified":"2005-02-04 17:09:04","fileurl":""},{"id":123351,"heading":"Bush 'Admirer'","article":"Is a troll in the classic sense blithering its numbskull pronouncements as a baiting tactic.\r\nIt's time to realize that this individual is\r\na)  a moron\r\nb) an idiot\r\nc) useless as tits on a bore hog\r\nand lastly but certainly not leastly, a waste of skin and time.\r\n'The moon is blue cheese'\r\n'Bush is the best president ever!'\r\n'The republicans ARE different that the democrats, yak yak'\r\nAnyone who responds to a village idiot is part of its audience.\r\n","author":"Repost by :>)","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-05 00:28:07","modified":"2005-03-05 00:28:07","fileurl":""},{"id":123352,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"shrubfilcher; &quot;Wrong KPC - it pretty much describes the Democrats, not the Republicans.&quot;\r\n\r\n...ahhh, the classic wingnut &quot;I know you are but what am I&quot; gambit....\r\n\r\n...how nimble....","author":"KPC","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-05 01:01:48","modified":"2005-03-05 01:01:48","fileurl":""},{"id":123362,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"filcher: &quot;...firestorm of Democracy raging...&quot;\r\n\r\n...irony is always lost on the idiots.\r\n\r\n","author":"KPC","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-05 16:28:36","modified":"2005-03-05 16:28:36","fileurl":""},{"id":123363,"heading":"Democrats leaning toward socialism","article":"If only that were true. How happy I would be. In reality, they are financed by the same corporations and billionaires who finance the Republicans. Their role in the electoral con game is to play the softies who will screw over working people and the poor slightly less severely than the Republicans do. Even that isn't always true, however. In some respects Jimmy Carter campaigned to the right of Jerry Ford in 1976, JFK to the right of Nixon in 1960. Democratic Senators Pat Moynihan and Scoop Jackson often attacked Republican administrations from the right twenty or thirty years ago.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-05 17:00:38","modified":"2005-03-05 17:00:38","fileurl":""},{"id":123379,"heading":"correction on socialism","article":"Socialism is a current of political thought starting in the 1600s with the early anarchist Diggers.\r\n\r\nIt developed alongside the market it criticized.  In the mid 1800s, Marx developed his theories about capital, and they eventually came to dominate socialist thinking for a century.  He named his branch of socialism &quot;communism&quot;.\r\n\r\nThe primary thesis of socialism is that society and government should focus primarily on serving the social needs of all the people, including those who cannot work.","author":"more rational","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-05 21:02:35","modified":"2005-03-05 21:02:35","fileurl":""},{"id":123425,"heading":"Indymediatrons will some day wake up","article":"Thank you so much, Potsy, for your 17th century Puritan\/Calvinist sentiments and your Horatio Alger\/Calvin Coolidge ideology.\r\n\r\n>>> You're most welcome.  I'm astounded you didn't  throw in the economic powerhouse that was Reaganomics.   For comparison, you can always compare it to the socialism\/cowardice of Pussy Carter.\r\n\r\nWhat you are offering is an individutalistic solution to a social problem, which by definition can only be changed by social action. Flush that moldy ideology of yours down the pot when you get through.\r\n\r\n>>>    You've got it backwards, friend.  Government *should* exist only to serve and protect individuals and further reward those who contribute to society   Who knows why socialists complain so bitterly about government, then advocate MORE government control of our lives.  &quot;Activism&quot; is  just a shield for shit-disturbing poverty pimps.   Far more of them are paid off than accomplish anything lasting or worthwhile.\r\n\r\n>>> My &quot;moldy idealogy&quot; has freed more minds and liberated more people from poverty than the stagnant  communo-socialist pipe dreams of Indymediatrons.\r\n","author":"Potsy of the Future","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-07 09:00:38","modified":"2005-03-07 09:00:38","fileurl":""},{"id":123463,"heading":"who makes your mom's cell phone BA","article":"What about Sweden?  They have a great social democracy and Nokia is doing fine, as is Ikea.","author":"viking menace","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-08 03:05:25","modified":"2005-03-08 03:05:25","fileurl":""},{"id":123502,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Filcher: &quot;Brick-a-bracker Firecracker sis boom bah!&quot;\r\n\r\n\r\n...give it a rest ya nancy-boy!","author":"KPC","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-09 02:06:31","modified":"2005-03-09 02:06:31","fileurl":""},{"id":123584,"heading":"bush admirer please read","article":"ok so there is a bright shining light of truth in every political theory, Ill even give it to ya even conservitivisum and capitalisim have it... there shining light of truth in conservitivisim is that they want to hold true to their traditions. which is something to be admired. this country was founded by property owners so capitalisim is very conservitive here. capitalisims shining light is easy to see too. private property means you get to have stuff to yourself, you have some form of garantee youll get to keep what you work for. and as for socialism it advocates management of common welth, such as roads plumbing etc. at its roots socalisim has nothing to do with governments as someone else pointed out it came from anarchist theory. take comunisim its shining light can be summed up in the montra &quot;from each according to there ability and to each according to their need&quot; comunisim is an econmic theory that has nothing to do with government. marx theorized three ways to reach a utopia and only one of them involved government. If anything these Ideas socalisim dosent have to be buerocratic or goverment oriented. managing something just means you tend to it, take care of it. at there heart these Ideas are fairly christan also if you think about it. remember the golden rule? do on to others as you would have others do on to you? let me throw this Idea at you. in russia the Ideas of comunisim by way of government are concidered conservitive because thats the tradition there. its the liberal youth of former soviet territorys that advocate change and free trade. \r\nIf you have a goverment with a socalist approach to the economy that means that they try to manage the economy. by that notion you yourself should hate george bush. In terms of goverments directing economy he is extremely socilist. the only difference between him and his liberal counter parts is they advocate thae free lunch you where talking about. and bush advocates corporate intrests and millitary intrests. bolth are socalist in that they want the goverment to control the commonwelth. remember socalisin dosent nessicarily have anything to do with goverment. corporations can be demonicly socalist too. cant they manage the commonwelth just as poorly as goverment can? bolth corporations and governments are totalitarian institutions by definition. anyway I like what you have to say. Indymedia is all about encouraging discussion but I must say you do sound like a troll by using the pen name &quot;bush admirer&quot; and ranting about comunisim and socilisim george bush is a socalist. hes also a nationalist. so is john kerry.  your saying socalisim is bad then youre name declares you admire a socalist. now come on either you are just trying to be annoying or you arent being clear enough. It seems you are generalizing things. liberals tend to be intelectuals. some are not but manny are. this is the nature of liberalisim, conservitives think stick to honered tradition.. thats ok some traditions should be honored. and liberals say hey wait lets THINK ABOUT THIS mabey this isnt a good Idea mabey we should change things. Im not saying conservitives arent intelectual but many do refuse to think in depth about political theory because it is the nature of conservitisim to reject new or differing theorys. may I suggest to you that in the future you use terms like national socialist, democratic socalist, libertarian socalist etc to specify your meaning. because when you say all &quot;socalists are buerocratic scumbags&quot; that is an incompleate statement. some libertarian socalists dont believe in goverment buerocracy at all. and no the term libertarian socalist isnt bullshit its a legitimate political theory, at one time it was a movement in the united states. by the way for the most part only in america does the word libertarianisim have a distinctly conservitive capitalist condentation to it. else where it is associated with Ideas like comunisim and socalisim. Ive noticed that alot of other folks on this site have made the same mistakes of over generalizing as you have. and usualy most of them are liberals. this is probaly just because I wind up reading more liberal posts but anyway I digress. It sounds like you dont like nationalist socalists, controled economys, beurocracys etc. I agree with you on that. I do not however admire bush because of his national socalist and military leanings. think of this. The military is the largest socalist buerocracy in the United States. they subsidize Insane amounts of money to corporations who yes also have buerocrats. and the military is our Icon of Nationalisim. now I can see your conservitive and you seem set in your ways that socalisim means goverment buerocracy and such. which is understandable this is america and those are the traditional terms we use. but sence your coming into the &quot;liberal club&quot; here It would do you well to learn the lingo. I know You probably feel its bullshit and Im not going to try to convert you or anything but try to learn a bit about the point of view of your audience. know your enemy ya know? you may learn somethin and we may learn something. thatts the whole point of indymedia. to give citizens a democraticly run form of news comunication. ( in my humble opinion this site fails in some places but they work hard so its ok) so comunicate then I want to read your opinion. I dont want the imc moderatorss to censor you. just if your wondering thats why people call you a troll. trolls are folks that come out here just to annoy people. jam the air frequencys so to speak. I think the moderators may begin to censor you if you keep disrupting things like this. Im not saying CONFORM TO THE SITES LIBERAL AGENDA BLAH BLAH BLAH. I personaly just be more inclined to listen to you If I felt you where trying to add to this site insted of slow it down and I feel like your slowing it down by just shouting socalist comunist etc etc at people. If thats your goal... to be annoying prick then well I wont blame them for censoring you.  make shure your statements seem intelectual to your audience. Im assuming you might be christan because your afinity for bush. I cant rember who but one of the jesus's follows said when I sat with the jews I acted as a jew when I sat with the romans I acted as a roman when I sat with the pagens I acted like the pagens so that the would listen to and respect me when I spoke to them. I know the quote isnt perfect but you get the Idea. and if you are christan concider this, george bush is one of the most un-christian men on the planet, Im not saying john kerry is. as a matter of fact most polititians arent very upstanding. our political system seems to weed honest people out. think of the comandments, thow shall not kill. any man who would partake in war is not a christan man, also to any other christans out there. I suggest reading the writings of leo tolstoy. Ill leave you with a quote of his &quot;any man who holds the law of man above the law of god thereby denouncs christianity&quot; this aplys to all laws including private property laws and laws writen by men of the church anyhoo its food for thought\r\n\r\nPS: sorry if this is hard to read I get tired from working all night and mis-type, my spelling and grammer are awfull please understand. ","author":"felix","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-11 18:16:35","modified":"2005-03-11 18:16:35","fileurl":""},{"id":123585,"heading":"bush admirer please read","article":"ok so there is a bright shining light of truth in every political theory, Ill even give it to ya even conservitivisum and capitalisim have it... there shining light of truth in conservitivisim is that they want to hold true to their traditions. which is something to be admired. this country was founded by property owners so capitalisim is very conservitive here. capitalisims shining light is easy to see too. private property means you get to have stuff to yourself, you have some form of garantee youll get to keep what you work for. and as for socialism it advocates management of common welth, such as roads plumbing etc. at its roots socalisim has nothing to do with governments as someone else pointed out it came from anarchist theory. take comunisim its shining light can be summed up in the montra &quot;from each according to there ability and to each according to their need&quot; comunisim is an econmic theory that has nothing to do with government. marx theorized three ways to reach a utopia and only one of them involved government. If anything these Ideas socalisim dosent have to be buerocratic or goverment oriented. managing something just means you tend to it, take care of it. at there heart these Ideas are fairly christan also if you think about it. remember the golden rule? do on to others as you would have others do on to you? let me throw this Idea at you. in russia the Ideas of comunisim by way of government are concidered conservitive because thats the tradition there. its the liberal youth of former soviet territorys that advocate change and free trade. \r\nIf you have a goverment with a socalist approach to the economy that means that they try to manage the economy. by that notion you yourself should hate george bush. In terms of goverments directing economy he is extremely socilist. the only difference between him and his liberal counter parts is they advocate thae free lunch you where talking about. and bush advocates corporate intrests and millitary intrests. bolth are socalist in that they want the goverment to control the commonwelth. remember socalisin dosent nessicarily have anything to do with goverment. corporations can be demonicly socalist too. cant they manage the commonwelth just as poorly as goverment can? bolth corporations and governments are totalitarian institutions by definition. anyway I like what you have to say. Indymedia is all about encouraging discussion but I must say you do sound like a troll by using the pen name &quot;bush admirer&quot; and ranting about comunisim and socilisim george bush is a socalist. hes also a nationalist. so is john kerry.  your saying socalisim is bad then youre name declares you admire a socalist. now come on either you are just trying to be annoying or you arent being clear enough. It seems you are generalizing things. liberals tend to be intelectuals. some are not but manny are. this is the nature of liberalisim, conservitives think stick to honered tradition.. thats ok some traditions should be honored. and liberals say hey wait lets THINK ABOUT THIS mabey this isnt a good Idea mabey we should change things. Im not saying conservitives arent intelectual but many do refuse to think in depth about political theory because it is the nature of conservitisim to reject new or differing theorys. may I suggest to you that in the future you use terms like national socialist, democratic socalist, libertarian socalist etc to specify your meaning. because when you say all &quot;socalists are buerocratic scumbags&quot; that is an incompleate statement. some libertarian socalists dont believe in goverment buerocracy at all. and no the term libertarian socalist isnt bullshit its a legitimate political theory, at one time it was a movement in the united states. by the way for the most part only in america does the word libertarianisim have a distinctly conservitive capitalist condentation to it. else where it is associated with Ideas like comunisim and socalisim. Ive noticed that alot of other folks on this site have made the same mistakes of over generalizing as you have. and usualy most of them are liberals. this is probaly just because I wind up reading more liberal posts but anyway I digress. It sounds like you dont like nationalist socalists, controled economys, beurocracys etc. I agree with you on that. I do not however admire bush because of his national socalist and military leanings. think of this. The military is the largest socalist buerocracy in the United States. they subsidize Insane amounts of money to corporations who yes also have buerocrats. and the military is our Icon of Nationalisim. now I can see your conservitive and you seem set in your ways that socalisim means goverment buerocracy and such. which is understandable this is america and those are the traditional terms we use. but sence your coming into the &quot;liberal club&quot; here It would do you well to learn the lingo. I know You probably feel its bullshit and Im not going to try to convert you or anything but try to learn a bit about the point of view of your audience. know your enemy ya know? you may learn somethin and we may learn something. thatts the whole point of indymedia. to give citizens a democraticly run form of news comunication. ( in my humble opinion this site fails in some places but they work hard so its ok) so comunicate then I want to read your opinion. I dont want the imc moderatorss to censor you. just if your wondering thats why people call you a troll. trolls are folks that come out here just to annoy people. jam the air frequencys so to speak. I think the moderators may begin to censor you if you keep disrupting things like this. Im not saying CONFORM TO THE SITES LIBERAL AGENDA BLAH BLAH BLAH. I personaly just be more inclined to listen to you If I felt you where trying to add to this site insted of slow it down and I feel like your slowing it down by just shouting socalist comunist etc etc at people. If thats your goal... to be annoying prick then well I wont blame them for censoring you.  make shure your statements seem intelectual to your audience. Im assuming you might be christan because your afinity for bush. I cant rember who but one of the jesus's follows said when I sat with the jews I acted as a jew when I sat with the romans I acted as a roman when I sat with the pagens I acted like the pagens so that the would listen to and respect me when I spoke to them. I know the quote isnt perfect but you get the Idea. and if you are christan concider this, george bush is one of the most un-christian men on the planet, Im not saying john kerry is. as a matter of fact most polititians arent very upstanding. our political system seems to weed honest people out. think of the comandments, thow shall not kill. any man who would partake in war is not a christan man, also to any other christans out there. I suggest reading the writings of leo tolstoy. Ill leave you with a quote of his &quot;any man who holds the law of man above the law of god thereby denouncs christianity&quot; this aplys to all laws including private property laws and laws writen by men of the church anyhoo its food for thought\r\n\r\nPS: sorry if this is hard to read I get tired from working all night and mis-type, my spelling and grammer are awfull please understand. ","author":"felix","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-11 18:17:34","modified":"2005-03-11 18:17:34","fileurl":""},{"id":123586,"heading":"whoops, sorry I didnt mean to post that twice","article":"posty please read what I wrote too. \r\n\r\nPS: Im not trying to atack anyone so please concider what I have to say I'd love to hear friendly replies. especially if you disagree. Its nice even so long as your friendly.  Dont write me off as a wacko dumb liberal anarchist hippy comunist terrorist homosexual bike riding jedi socalist rebel scum bag stereotype.I assumed that&quot; bush admirer&quot; is christan I know thats a strerotype too. If you are not, then please forgive me. I try to be civil to everyone here the least others can do is return me the favor.  ","author":"felix","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-11 18:35:02","modified":"2005-03-11 18:35:02","fileurl":""},{"id":123647,"heading":"That's OK with us felix","article":"You can relate to the trolls if you want but we know that BA is a mindless Limbaugh clone and deserves all the respect that you can give it.\r\nI, for one will continue to equate Bush Admirer with the head of an ant on the ass of an elephant.  As for mature discourse, ha ha ha ha--\r\ntake a look at the history of posts this idiot has left.  Un fucking believable.  Take a look for yourself.  Oh, and use a spell check to not appear as an ignorant or lazy example of Bush Admirer's new friend .","author":"Henery Haarpy","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-14 05:41:16","modified":"2005-03-14 05:41:16","fileurl":""},{"id":123656,"heading":"I love it.","article":"The Bush Admirer is calling someone else an idiot.\r\nObviously hasn't read its own posts.  Ha ha ha ha.\r\n","author":"Henery Haarpy","parent_id":123307,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-14 13:24:18","modified":"2005-03-14 13:24:18","fileurl":""}]}