{"article":{"id":123305,"heading":"The Nazi (Neocon) party","author":"squig","created":"2005-03-03 23:01:14","modified":"2005-03-23 16:42:50","last_modified":"Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:42:50","article":"<p>The Neocons embrace the ideals of fascism and despise the ideals of democracy. They are suppressing any form of dissent , free speech or justice as demonstrated in the cases of Ward Churchill and Lynne Stewart. They have deployed a finely tuned propaganda machine made to manufacture consent. They commit crimes against humanity using depleted uranium munitions an act of genocide every bit as evil as the gas chambers. They torture and imprison people in concentration camps without charge. They have started a war of aggression and are guilty of all the crimes the Nazis were tried for at Nuremberg. They control the minds of the people with a steady flow of nationalist and religious brainwashing. They have a leader who is intellectually challenged, immature, mentally unstable and completely out of touch with reality.  <br><br> So when are people going to wake up and start calling these Nazis Nazis? I'd like to think before New York is fire bombed like Dresden, but I'm not holding my breath. Isn't it time the left got some balls and went on the offensive against the Nazi party? We need to out these Nazis before they completely shred what's left of the constitution, make it illegal to call them Nazis, and start rounding up dissidents sending them to the concentration camps. Sound far fetched? well maybe if you're completely ignorant.  <br><br> The greatest and perhaps the only weakness the Neocons have is being outed as Nazis. Better do something now before we too are silenced and sent to the gas chambers. The German people ignored what was being done in their names because they were too busy enjoying their prosperity and they allowed their leaders to gain too much power through fear and ignorance. Sound familiar?  <br><br> The price of \"freedom\" and \"democracy\"- <a href=\"http:\/\/www.writers-against-war.org\/public\/depleted-uranium.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/www.writers-against-war.org\/public\/depleted-uranium.html<\/a><\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Anyone who has studied the history of the Nazis would be hard pressed to differentiate between a Nazi and a Neoconservative.","numcomment":5,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2005\/03\/123305.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":123413,"heading":"the   truth   hurts","article":"    all    the   evidence    is    there,      this     person    is    correct.      please    look    at    the    facts   people.\r\n   check   this.     rexcurry.net\/pledge2.html\r\n\r\n                           nobeliefs.com\/speeches.htm\r\n\r\n                          nobeliefs.com\/nazis.htm\r\n\r\n                    alaska.net\/~logjam\/haarp.html\r\n     is   it   our    planet  ?     9-11    ?      fear    fear   fear.\r\n   during    the   consruction   of   sausenhausen   concentation   camp,    which    was    the   the    first,    and   built    by    german    slaves ,   during    the world   olympics  which was   just   to    the    south   in    berlin.    the    nazi's     publically     shot    dead    a    couple    seventh   day   adventist   people,    who   had   refused   to   join   the    military.        it     is     amazing      what     the    power    of     fear     will    do.             knowledge    is     our      &quot;  weapon &quot;      love     is    our   insperation.\r\n             it      takes    more    energy     to    ignore    the   facts ,    then    to    except     the     truth.              \r\n                 imc     is     the    way.\r\n        stop     the     machine     any      way    possible.","author":"anti-nazi, anti -du","parent_id":123305,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-06 21:18:17","modified":"2005-03-06 21:18:17","fileurl":""},{"id":123587,"heading":"zionisim","article":"the isireal government is a nationalistic and socalized many people who critisise zionisim are critisising the religous dogma that  surrounds the issue not the right of jews to exsist. yes its true some neo nazis use this as a fasade for there true faschist beliefs. for the most part liberals only critisize the militarisim NOT because of anti semitisim. militarisim is the reason why they compare bush to hitler.  and yes the republican party is bolth natonalist and socailist theres no way around it. so is the democratic party. Im sorry but they bolth want to influence our economy and they bolth believe the goverment has a right to defend its sovernity against its OWN CIVILIANS. thats why we have a armed police force national gard and policys of martal law for &quot;states of emergency&quot; just accept it and move on there are better arguments you could make. understand why people say the things they do.","author":"felix","parent_id":123305,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-11 18:50:54","modified":"2005-03-11 18:50:54","fileurl":""},{"id":124119,"heading":"&quot;Little Eichmanns&quot; and &quot;Digital Brownshirts","article":"The effort to remove fascists in the Middle East and jump-start democracy, for all its ups and downs, has been opposed not just by principled critics who bristled at tactics and strategy, but also by peculiarly vehement cynics here and abroad \u2014 whose disgust was so often in direct proportion to their relative political impotence.\r\n\r\nOne of their most hackneyed charges, begun almost at the beginning of this war, has been the Bush\/America as Hitler\/Nazi Germany comparison. True, fast-changing events in the Middle East recently have left many of these hypercritics either embarrassed, discredited \u2014 or desperately reinventing themselves into the \u201cI told you so\u201d crowd. But we should not forget these slurs \u2014 nor expect them to disappear entirely inasmuch as they reflect a deep sort of self-loathing among Western elites.\r\n\r\nImmediately after September 11, Ward Churchill compared the victims in the Twin Tower to \u201clittle Eichmanns.\u201d Sen. Robert Byrd (D., W.Va.) more recently likened President George W. Bush\u2019s political methodology to what transpired in Nazi Germany. Earlier during the run-up to the Iraqi war, German Justice Minister Herta Daeubler-Gmelin smeared Bush with a similar Hitlerian analogy.\r\n\r\nIn fact, what do Linda Ronstadt, Harold Pinter, Scott Ritter, Ted Rall, and George Soros all have in common? The same thing that unites Fidel Castro, the European street, the Iranians, and North Koreans: an evocation of some aspects of Adolf Hitler\u2019s Nazi Germany to deprecate President Bush in connection with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.\r\n\r\nAt first glance, all this wild rhetoric is preposterous. Hitler hijacked an elected government and turned it into a fascist tyranny. He destroyed European democracy. His minions persecuted Christians, gassed over six million Jews, and created an entire fascistic creed predicated on anti-Semitism and the myth of a superior Aryan race.\r\n\r\nWhatever one thinks of Bush\u2019s Iraqi campaign, the president obtained congressional approval to invade and pledged $87 billion to rebuild the country. He freely weathered mass street demonstrations and a hostile global media, successfully defended his Afghan and Iraq reconstructions through a grueling campaign and three presidential debates, and won a national plebiscite on his tenure.\r\n\r\nIn a world that is almost uniformly opposed to the democratic Jewish state, Israel has no better friend than Bush, who in turn is a believer in, not a tormentor of, Christianity. Afghanistan and Iraq, with 50 million freed, have elected governments, not American proconsuls, and there is a movement in the Middle East toward greater democratization \u2014 with no guarantee that such elected governments will not be anti-American. No president has been more adamantly against cloning, euthanasia, abortion, or anything that smacks of the use of science to predetermine super-genes or to do away with the elderly, feeble, or unborn.\r\n\r\nSo what gives with this crazy popular analogy \u2014 one that on a typical Internet Google search of \u201cBush\u201d + \u201cHitler\u201d yields about 1,350,000 matches?\r\n\r\nOne explanation is simply the ignorance of the icons of our popular culture. A Linda Ronstadt, Garrison Keillor, or Harold Pinter knows nothing much of the encompassing evil of Hitler\u2019s regime, its execution of the mentally ill and disabled, the systematic cleansing of the non-Aryans from Europe, or mass executions and starvation of Soviet prisoners. Like Prince Harry parading around in his ridiculous Nazi costume, quarter-educated celebrities who have some talent for song or verse know only that name-dropping \u201cHitler\u201d or his associates gets them some shock value that their pedestrian rants otherwise would not warrant.\r\n\r\nIgnorance and arrogance are a lethal combination. Nowhere do we see that more clearly among writers and performers who pontificate as historians when they know nothing about history.\r\n\r\nOn occasion, those who are tainted, sometimes unfairly, with past charges of rightist extremism, find some psychic release in calling an American democratic president or his conduct Nazi-like. Thus, a German politician, who de facto unfortunately operates under the suspicions of the post-Nazi world, gains the moral high ground and moral fides by gratuitously deflecting attention to an American \u2014 not as the descendant of the liberators of the Europe, but as the true inheritor of the German Hitlerian mantel.\r\n\r\nGeorge Soros can nearly destroy the Bank of England in his hyper-capitalist financial speculations but somehow find spiritual cover among the leftists of Moveon.org, which he subsidized and which ran ads comparing the president to Hitler. Sen. Byrd, who suffers from the odium of an early membership with the racist Ku Klux Klan, perhaps finds it ameliorative to associate others with the tactics of the 20th century\u2019s premier racist.\r\n\r\nEntire continents can play this game. If Europe is awash in anti-Semitism, then one mechanism to either ignore or excuse it is to allege that the United States \u2014 the one country that is the most hospitable to Jews \u2014 is governed by a Hitler-like killer. Americans, who freed Europe from the Nazis, are supposed to recoil from such slander rather than cry shame on its promulgators, whose grandfathers either capitulated to the Nazis or collaborated \u2014 or were Nazis themselves.\r\n\r\nIf the sick analogy to Hitler is intended to conjure up a mass murderer, then the 20th century\u2019s two greatest killers, Mao and Stalin, who slaughtered or starved somewhere around 80 million between them, are less regularly evoked. Perhaps that omission is because so many of the mass demonstrators, who bore placards of Bush\u2019s portrait defaced with Hitler\u2019s moustache, are overtly leftist and so often excuse extremist violence \u2014 whether in present-day Cuba or Zimbabwe \u2014 if it is decorated with the rhetoric of radical enforced equality.\r\n\r\nThe flood of the Hitler similes is also a sign of the extremism of the times. If there was an era when the extreme Right was more likely to slander a liberal as a communist than a leftist was to smear a conservative as a fascist, those days are long past. True, Bill Clinton brought the deductive haters out of the woodwork, but for all their cruel caricature, few compared him to a mass-murdering Mao or Stalin for his embrace of tax hikes and more government. \u201cSlick Willie\u201d was not quite \u201cAdolf Hitler\u201d or \u201cJoseph Stalin.\u201d\r\n\r\nBut something has gone terribly wrong with a mainstream Left that tolerates a climate where the next logical slur easily devolves into Hitlerian invective. The problem is not just the usual excesses of pundits and celebrities (e.g., Jonathan Chait\u2019s embarrassing rant in the New Republic on why \u201cI hate George W. Bush\u201d or Garrison Keillor\u2019s infantile slurs about Bush\u2019s Republicans: \u201cbrown shirts in pinstripes\u201d), but also supposedly responsible officials of the opposition such as former Sen. John Glenn, who said of the Bush agenda: \u201cIt\u2019s the old Hitler business.\u201d\r\n\r\nThus, if former Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore breezily castigates Bush\u2019s Internet supporters as \u201cdigital brownshirts\u201d; if current Democratic-party chairman Howard Dean says publicly, \u201cI hate the Republicans and everything they stand for&quot; \u2014 or, \u201cThis is a struggle of good and evil. And we're the good&quot;; or if NAACP chairman Julian Bond screams of the Bush administration that \u201cTheir idea of equal rights is the American flag and the Confederate swastika flying side by side,\u201d the bar of public dissent has so fallen that it is easy to descend a tad closer to the bottom to compare a horrific killer to an American president.\r\n\r\nIs there a danger to all this? Plenty. The slander not only brings a president down to the level of an evil murderer, but \u2014 as worried Jewish leaders have pointed out \u2014 elevates the architect of genocide to the level of an American president. Do the ghosts of six million that were incinerated \u2014 or, for that matter, the tens of millions who were killed to promote or stop Hitler\u2019s madness \u2014 count for so little that they can be so promiscuously induced when one wishes to object to stopping the filibuster of senatorial nominations or to ignore the objection of Europeans in removing the fascistic Saddam Hussein?\r\n\r\nThere is something profoundly immoral for a latte-sipping, upscale Westerner of the postmodern age flippantly evoking Hitler when we think of the countless souls lost to the historical record who were systematically starved and gassed in the factories of death of the Third Reich.\r\n\r\nFinally, in such a debased climate, it was no accident that Alfred A. Knopf published a novel, Checkpoint, about musing how to kill Bush. Nor was it odd to hear of a New York play, \u201cI\u2019m Gonna Kill the President,\u201d apparently centered around killing Bush. Late last year, a columnist in the Guardian, Charles Brooker, wrote to his British readers on the eve of the election :\r\n\r\nOn November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. \u2014 where are you now that we need you?\r\n\r\nAll this venom is not so funny when we now witness a Saudi American young man, Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, currently under indictment for allegedly planning just such a murder. After all, when it becomes a cheap and easy thing to compare a president to a century\u2019s great criminal, then it becomes even cheaper and easier to dream \u2014 or plan \u2014 to kill him.\r\n\r\nAt some point a Gore, Byrd, or Soros has a moral responsibility not to employ Nazi analogy, if for no other reason than to prevent unleashing even greater extremism by the unhinged. No doubt Abu Ali\u2019s lawyer one day soon will say that his disturbed client\u2019s \u201cmusings\u201d were no different from what he read from Knopf or in the Guardian \u2014 or that he simply fell under the influence of Moveon.org and thought it was his duty to remove the Bush\/Nazi threat that even U.S. senators and presidential candidates had identified and warned about.\r\n\r\nThe final irony? The president who is most slandered as Hitler will probably prove to be the most zealous advocate of democratic government abroad, the staunchest friend of beleaguered Israel, and the greatest promoter of global individual freedom in our recent memory. In turn, too many of the Left who used to talk about idealism and morality have so often shown themselves mean-spirited, cynical, and without faith in the spiritual power of democracy.\r\n\r\nWhat an eerie \u2014 and depressing \u2014 age we live in.\r\n\r\n\u00a92005 Victor Davis Hanson","author":"Victor Davis Hanson","parent_id":123305,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-23 05:03:52","modified":"2013-11-11 00:32:55","fileurl":""},{"id":124140,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"shithead: &quot;At some point a Gore, Byrd, or Soros has a moral responsibility not to employ Nazi analogy,&quot;\r\n\r\n...yeah....wingnuts call everyone who disagrees with them (check out the implied dig at MoveOn.org in the same paragraph) an evil terrorist...\r\n\r\n...but if Gore, Byrd or Soros call a spade a spade...THAT'S immoral!\r\n\r\n...whadda fuckin' hypocritical douchebag.","author":"KPC","parent_id":123305,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2005-03-23 16:42:50","modified":"2005-03-23 16:42:50","fileurl":""}]}