If Voting Changed Anything, It Would Be Illegal<\/p>
\r\n\r\n In the year 2004, will the Democrats save us all from the madness of King George II and the pupper-master himself, Dick Cheney? After four years of a President who was handed the office by the Supreme Court and the Electoral College without securing even 48% of the popular vote, progressives are touting the \"Anybody But Bush\" campaign. Millions of dollars and countless hours of people's energy is being expended to elect \"Anybody But Bush\". Could this energy be better spent?<\/p>
\r\n\r\nRead More <\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"www.geocities.com\/ifvotingchangedanything2004","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"...it would be illegal.","numcomment":15,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2004\/08\/115202.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":115215,"heading":"heard it before...","article":"...because the ruling class requires apathy and fear.\r\nThere are great movements afoot and the mobilization required to effect them is possible only if the general facts are made clear to the now throughly befuddled and angry populous.\r\nIt wont be a quick painless fix, I predict because, like in the past periods of social progression, these psychopaths of power only relinquish power when they get the feel of the torch. And that usually happens when over reaching power navigates their piracy into unexpected shoals (Shoels). They trip over their own dicks big enough for everyone to see. Lines are drawn.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-09 03:30:27","modified":"2004-08-09 03:30:27","fileurl":""},{"id":115216,"heading":"fresca","article":""Lines are drawn."\r\n\r\nYou truly are a hysterical moron.","author":"Good Lord","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-09 03:45:23","modified":"2004-08-09 03:45:23","fileurl":""},{"id":115219,"heading":"did you like that one, sweetypie?","article":"it's nice to have a puppy following me around. It's so cute.\r\nPlease use the newspaper in the kitchen.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-09 04:07:34","modified":"2004-08-09 04:07:34","fileurl":""},{"id":115230,"heading":"surrounded","article":"","author":"surrounded","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-08-09 06:11:24","modified":"2005-08-15 03:00:13","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/08\/dallas_04.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/08\/dallas_04.jpg"}},{"id":115241,"heading":"it was illegal","article":"Until the 50s, it was effectively illegal for African Americans in the South to vote.\r\n\r\nIt used to be illegal for Asians to become citizens. So it was illegal for them.\r\n\r\nIt was illegal for women to vote, earlier this past century.\r\n\r\nWhen the country was founded, it was only landed white men who were allowed to vote, and illegal for anyone else.\r\n\r\nIt is illegal for people under 18 to vote. The age used to be 21.\r\n\r\nIt's illegal for ex-felons to vote.\r\n\r\nIt's illegal for resident aliens to vote. It is, however, legal for citizens living abroad to vote here.\r\n\r\nSo, fuck yeah. Voting must have changed something, because, for most of American history, it was illegal for the majority of people in America to vote.","author":"more rational","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-09 16:52:20","modified":"2004-08-09 16:52:20","fileurl":""},{"id":115251,"heading":"nice logic...","article":"voting didn't give all those people the right to vote. it was struggle outside of the voting system that did. women struggled for years in the streets to get the vote. it wasn't just one day that all the men voted to give women the right to vote because it was the right thing to do. Maybe the title of the article should be changed to If Voting for Democrats Changed Anything For the Better... but it's too late. the whole point is that too many people believe that if you go vote for Kerry, you can just go home and feel good about it, believing that any more than crumbs will be thrown to the majority of the US population that wants us out of Iraq, and wants universal health care. ","author":"@","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-09 19:09:33","modified":"2004-08-09 19:09:33","fileurl":""},{"id":115256,"heading":""universal health care"","article":"Those who want "universal health care" should go to nations where they already have it. Inefficiency, low quality, waiting lists.\r\n\r\nObserve the horrors of health care run by the same morons who can't run the post office.","author":"crap","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-09 19:45:06","modified":"2004-08-09 19:45:06","fileurl":""},{"id":115299,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"idiot: "Observe the horrors of health care run by the same morons who can't run the post office."\r\n\r\n...spoken by some dumb fuck who has never had to go to a hospital or see a seriously ill loved one suffer there...\r\n\r\n...if you gonna spew about "the real world", why don't you go out and try to live in it first.","author":"KPC","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-10 13:42:32","modified":"2004-08-10 13:42:32","fileurl":""},{"id":115315,"heading":"post office health care","article":"idiot: "Observe the horrors of health care run by the same morons who can't run the post office."\r\n\r\n...spoken by some dumb fuck who has never had to go to a hospital or see a seriously ill loved one suffer there...\r\n\r\n===don't try to attack me personally to avoid the obvious, jackass. You know even less about me than you do about economics or politics( I didn't believe it either). \r\n\r\n====Compare the nightmare of socialized medicine with the other way and then we'll see who fears for loved ones and where. \r\n\r\n...if you gonna spew about "the real world", why don't you go out and try to live in it first.\r\n\r\nPithy words from a stupid socialist <--redundant\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Editorial","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-10 18:21:35","modified":"2004-08-10 18:21:35","fileurl":""},{"id":115318,"heading":"yeah","article":"I hear that face lifts and breast jobs have a long waiting list in Canada","author":"Bob","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-10 18:33:35","modified":"2004-08-10 18:33:35","fileurl":""},{"id":115322,"heading":"voting","article":"To a great extent, voting *did* expand voting rights. Abolitionists supported feminists. Feminists supported the Civil Rights Movement. So, expanding voting rights helps to expand voting rights, if it's done with the intent of universal sufferage.\r\n\r\nI'm not saying that activism outside of the electoral system wasn't important. It was the primary way the rights were secured. But, ultimately, it required people who were represented within the system to agree that these disenfranchised groups should have the right to vote, and to change the law from within.\r\n\r\nMoreover, if voting didn't matter, then, why was there such a focus on getting the vote? It means something to someone.\r\n\r\nVoting is hardly the end-all of politics. If anything, it's just the initial move in the game; after the person's elected, you start to call in your favors.","author":"Life Under Terrorism","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-10 21:19:55","modified":"2004-08-10 21:19:55","fileurl":""},{"id":115352,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"idiot: "You know even less about me than you do about economics or politics"\r\n\r\n...oh yeah...you're DEEPLY COMPLEX....","author":"KPC","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-11 02:37:53","modified":"2004-08-11 02:37:53","fileurl":""},{"id":115358,"heading":"Ah, CPK","article":"If only you could resist the "ad hominem" attack, you'd be spared further beatings.\r\n\r\nThen again, the day's incomplete until you call someone a "ship-tile."\r\n","author":"PCK","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-11 03:01:15","modified":"2004-08-11 03:01:15","fileurl":""},{"id":115365,"heading":"no","article":"Profanity is spice.\r\nAnd like the planet Arrakis, KPC produces the spice. It only exists on Arrakis. With the spice civilization is impossible. ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-11 04:05:36","modified":"2004-08-11 04:05:36","fileurl":""},{"id":115366,"heading":"did I say that?","article":"I ment...\r\nProfanity is spice.\r\nAnd like the planet Arrakis, KPC produces the spice. It only exists on Arrakis. WithOUT the spice civilization is impossible. ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":115202,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-08-11 04:07:30","modified":"2004-08-11 04:07:30","fileurl":""}]}