{"article":{"id":113632,"heading":"Farenheit 9\/11 Parties Across US","author":"Doris Peach","created":"2004-06-30 22:38:41","modified":"2005-08-15 02:58:52","last_modified":"Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:58:52","article":"<p>Available by internet stream, producer Michael Moore spoke to his US audience and encouraged them to organize against George W. Bush in the upcoming November presidential elections. <br>  <br> House parties organized by the internet list serve, MoveOn.org, used the internet to hear the director of the documentary film \"Farenheit 9\/11\" and to send in questions from the party goers. Although many questions were sent in, only a few were answered because there were so many house parties. MoveOn.org displayed a map of the US which showed where all the house parties were located. In many areas the dots merged together to form a large mass. It was impressive to see where the activists with internet connections were located.  <br><br> Most of the discussion was about the initial success of the film at box offices across the nation, the positive responses from it, and how to defeat George Bush in the upcoming Presidential elections. Moore said he believes that people who were unsure about the reasons to invade Iraq as stated by President Bush, were convinced by seeing this film, that he is not acting in the best interest of the United States, and that he should not be re-elected.  <br>  <br> Moore said many people have told him, after seeing the film, that they felt lied to and decieved by President Bush. Many people question why the press was so cooperative with Bush's lies, and wonder why they did not question what Bush was saying at the time. Many people who saw the film question why some of the footage that is used in it was never shown by the press since the footage is taken from the press archives. <br><br> The remainder of the internet stream was used to discuss MoveOn.org's plan to defeat Bush by organizing a phone party on July 11. At that time people will gather with their cell phones and call unregistered voters to encourage them to register and vote against Bush in the November elections. <br><br> At our house party, over 50 neighbors from nearby areas socialized and spoke about the movie and future plans to defeat Bush. Many thanks to our host and hostess for providing their home and internet connection with patio speakers to accomodate the large overflow. Although this home is in an ethnically mixed and socially mixed neighborhood (in Los Angeles), the attendees, who mostly did not know each other, appeared to be primarily white middle class. I find this to be an interesting use of the internet to organize this sector. People seemed very relaxled and comfortable with the cultural aspect of it. I wonder if the internet is a tool that can be used in more culturally diverse ways?<\/p>\n","contact":"dorispeach@hotmail.com","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","summary":"Hundreds of house parties took place in the US to discuss Michael Moore's new documentary film, &quot;Farenheit 9\/11&quot;, on Monday evening, June 28. ","numcomment":13,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2004\/06\/img_0042.jpg","filesize":"89.7 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2004\/06\/113632.php","image":{"original":"\/uploads\/2004\/06\/img_0042.jpg","small":"\/uploads\/2004\/06\/img_0042.jpgthumb.jpg","medium":"\/uploads\/2004\/06\/img_0042.jpgmid.jpg"}},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":113635,"heading":"&quot;We felt lied to&quot;","article":"Simpletons.\r\n\r\nI give praise to Almighty God that I can see beyond the edges of my own vanity and comfort to the greater picture.  \r\n\r\nAmerica is at WAR because the thugs of a sand-clogged gutter religion demand death.  \r\n\r\nWe would've lost WW2 had American suffered this modern-day cabal of  traitorous head-in-the-sand communists, socialists, statists, communitarians, anarchists, marxists, stalinists,  victicrats and historical revisionists in the 40s.  \r\n\r\nThe murderers of Amercia's greatness have replaced the corpse with a divided land of ignorami barely worth saving.  \r\n\r\nFatboy's revisionist fluff sells tickets while you eat his shit. \r\n\r\nGood luck with Kerry.  His 500 million dollar ass is going to need your tax cut back.\r\n\r\nidiots.\r\n   \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"what shit","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-06-30 23:30:36","modified":"2005-08-15 02:58:52","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/moore-nado.jpglybsv5.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/moore-nado.jpglybsv5.jpg"}},{"id":113637,"heading":"KPC","article":"Whatta weirdo.\r\n\r\nI suck whale dick.","author":"oe-gay","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-30 23:33:00","modified":"2004-06-30 23:33:00","fileurl":""},{"id":113641,"heading":"hallelujah?","article":"i'm baffled.\r\n\r\nwhy do you all hate michael moore so much?  he's just one filmmaker with a vendetta.  his movie hasn't even beat &quot;White Chicks&quot; yet.","author":"more rational","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 00:58:01","modified":"2004-07-01 00:58:01","fileurl":""},{"id":113647,"heading":"obviously another uninformed freeper","article":"Thats right \r\nBrainwashed morons trying to compare WW2 to 9-11.\r\nI dont think so.\r\nIn that same vein of thought, when the japanese bombed pearl harbor, we should have attacked Mexico.\r\nNo wmds, no al queda connection, lies upon lies.\r\nYet these morons continue to follow the party line.\r\nFollow heroin man Limbaugh. Follow the rich boys controlling the world.\r\nKeep your head buried in the sand.\r\nand the rich boys are laughing at you.\r\nunbelievable.","author":"Sy$TeMF@iLuRe","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 03:42:21","modified":"2004-07-01 03:42:21","fileurl":""},{"id":113662,"heading":"Delusionaleft","article":"Thats right \r\nBrainwashed morons trying to compare WW2 to 9-11. \r\n\r\n>>>>  If you had a fucking clue, you would see the comparison is not about the wars but the attitudes of patriots of the 40s versus homegrown brainwashed leftists of today, sapped by cultural marxism and trained to hate America.  Congrats on being the perfect dupe.  Extra points if you're a self-hating White person.\r\n\r\n\r\nIn that same vein of thought, when the japanese bombed pearl harbor, we should have attacked Mexico. \r\n\r\n>>>>  Hey dummy, we didn't attack iraq after 9-11, we fought the Taliban where?  Afghanistan.  \r\n\r\nNo wmds, no al queda connection, lies upon lies. \r\n\r\n>>>>  Go complain to the UN and all your democrap buddies about &quot;lies,&quot; since Bush only continued THEIR line of reasoning and took actionin.  We also had to clean up 8 years of Clinton's shit, and that also takes time.\r\n\r\nYet these morons continue to follow the party line. \r\nFollow heroin man Limbaugh. Follow the rich boys controlling the world. \r\nKeep your head buried in the sand. \r\nand the rich boys are laughing at you. \r\n\r\n>>>  As Moore and Kerry at laugh at you, the socialist dupe, robbed of his history, his God and his faith in anything.\r\n\r\n>>>  To show how shaky your pathetic lefty empire really is, a single Limbaugh on AM RADIO  smashes the multi-billion dollar CNN-ABC-CBS-MSNBC-AirAmeri-con-NYLA-Times temple of lies to splinters EVERY DAY.\r\n\r\n\r\nEVEN WHILE &quot;HIGH,&quot; RUSH IS RIGHT.\r\n","author":"Mike Moore's unemployed personal trainer","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 14:31:03","modified":"2004-07-01 14:31:03","fileurl":""},{"id":113666,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"So, how often do you guys have to shave your heads...every day...every other day...?\r\n\r\n...if it gets too stubbly do they goosestep-kick you out of the cheetos club or what?","author":"KPC","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 15:08:04","modified":"2004-07-01 15:08:04","fileurl":""},{"id":113668,"heading":"is that ll you've got?","article":"More lip from a leftist fascist racist.  Your &quot;secret&quot; belief that you're better than other races and therefore must care for them harms them more than anything else.  \r\n\r\nNothin more pathetic than a guilty white liberal stooge.\r\n\r\n  ","author":"you're losing your &quot;powers&quot; GaYPC","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 15:31:12","modified":"2004-07-01 15:31:12","fileurl":""},{"id":113671,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...I don't know about other races, but I am certainly better than your whiney little pasty white-ass...\r\n\r\n...but that's no secret.","author":"KPC","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 15:53:10","modified":"2004-07-01 15:53:10","fileurl":""},{"id":113672,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...I don't know about other races, but I am certainly better than your whiney little pasty white-ass...\r\n\r\n...but that's no secret....and no mean feat.","author":"KPC","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 15:55:27","modified":"2004-07-01 15:55:27","fileurl":""},{"id":113686,"heading":"an apology","article":"Sorry about calling you names.\r\n\r\nAs for being better than everyone, maybe so.  \r\n\r\nGod doesn't see it that way tho.\r\n\r\n&quot;Hatred is a cage that keeps us from soaring free.&quot;","author":"an apology","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 20:08:58","modified":"2004-07-01 20:08:58","fileurl":""},{"id":113690,"heading":"fresca","article":"&quot;...I don't know about other races, but I am certainly better than your whiney little pasty white-ass... &quot;\r\n\r\nExcept for the fact that you ARE a whiny white ass havin' motherfucker.\r\n\r\nProbably the &quot;whitest&quot; bastard on this board.","author":"uh...yeah..","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-01 23:13:58","modified":"2004-07-01 23:13:58","fileurl":""},{"id":113699,"heading":"internet","article":"Of course the internet can be used in socially relevant ways.  There's this thing here you're reading.  There that queue of interesting emails that inform you of what's going on around  town.\r\n\r\nThis thing about watching Moore's thing is more like television than the internet.\r\n\r\nThe &quot;internet&quot; aspect was the online organizing that got you into the room to watch him.","author":"more rational","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-02 06:20:36","modified":"2004-07-02 06:20:36","fileurl":""},{"id":113760,"heading":"ya might wanna be careful when you tell someone you're &quot;right&quot;","article":"Wow        mr &quot;de &quot;lose &quot; inal\r\nYour lack of logic and lack of clues is amazing\r\n\r\n>>>> If you had a fucking clue, you would see the comparison is not about the wars but the attitudes of patriots of the 40s versus homegrown brainwashed leftists of today, sapped by cultural marxism and trained to hate America. Congrats on being the perfect dupe. Extra points if you're a self-hating White person. \r\n\r\nWOW (AGAIN)---WHATS THE DEFINITION OF A PATRIOT AGAIN?\r\nTHE CULTERAL MAXISM (I ASSUME YOU MEAN THE 50S?)\r\nREMEMBER BLACK LISTS AND MCCARTHYISM.\r\nTHE COMMUNIST SCARE TACTICS OF THE GOVT?\r\nGIMME A BREAK\r\nIM SURE IF YOU LIVED IN THE 1860S YOU WOULD BE OPPOSED TO THE &quot;SELF HATING&quot; &quot;WHITEYS&quot; THAT HATED THEIR RACE ENOUGH TO FIGHT FOR ANOTHERS RIGHT TO LIVE.\r\nWHO WAS THE PATRIOT THEN?\r\n\r\n\r\nIn that same vein of thought, when the japanese bombed pearl harbor, we should have attacked Mexico. \r\n\r\n>>>> Hey dummy, we didn't attack iraq after 9-11, we fought the Taliban where? Afghanistan. \r\nREALLY?\r\n135 000 TROOPS IN IRAQ\r\n15 000 TROOPS IN IRAQ (AFTER WAITING 2 MONTHS TO ENTER AFGANISTAN)\r\nSOUNDS LIKE AN IMMEDIATE OVERWHELMING ATTACK PLAN.\r\n\r\nNo wmds, no al queda connection, lies upon lies. \r\n\r\n>>>> Go complain to the UN and all your democrap buddies about &quot;lies,&quot; since Bush only continued THEIR line of reasoning and took actionin. We also had to clean up 8 years of Clinton's shit, and that also takes time. \r\n\r\nTHATS YOUR ARGUMENT?\r\nSEROIUSLY?\r\nCOMPLAIN TO THE UN --WHILE GW VIOLATED ARTICLE 6 OF THE US CONSTITUTION BY GOING AGAINST THE UN WHO VOTED --NOT TO GO TO WAR--\r\nCLEAN UP CLINTONS SHIT?\r\nIN IRAQ?\r\nHE CONTINUED TO BOMB THE ___ OUT OF THEM AND CONTINUE US (NOT UN) MANDATED &quot;NO FLY ZONES&quot;\r\nSO PLEASE ELABORATE ON YOUR &quot;CLINTON&quot; ARGUMENT.\r\n\r\nYet these morons continue to follow the party line. \r\nFollow heroin man Limbaugh. Follow the rich boys controlling the world. \r\nKeep your head buried in the sand. \r\nand the rich boys are laughing at you. \r\n\r\n>>> As Moore and Kerry at laugh at you, the socialist dupe, robbed of his history, his God and his faith in anything. \r\nONCE AGAIN---NO ARGUMENT ENGAGED\r\nROBBED OF HISTORY?\r\nGOD AND FAITH?\r\nARE YOU SOME CHRISTIAN EXTREMIST OF SOMTHING?\r\nSTICK TO THE ARGUMENT.\r\n\r\n>>> To show how shaky your pathetic lefty empire really is, a single Limbaugh on AM RADIO smashes the multi-billion dollar CNN-ABC-CBS-MSNBC-AirAmeri-con-NYLA-Times temple of lies to splinters EVERY DAY. \r\nEven while &quot;high&quot; rush is right. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nBECAUSE 20 MILLION PEOPLE SAY IT IS SO MAKES IT TRUE?\r\nASK YOURSELF ONE QUESTION.\r\nLIKE PHILOSOPHY AND ARGUMENTATION?\r\nHERE------\r\n\r\nemotion, appeal to (argumentum ad populum) \r\n\r\nThe informal fallacy of persuading someone to accept (or reject) a conclusion by arousing favorable (or unfavorable) emotions toward it or by emphasizing its widespread acceptance (or rejection) by others. \r\nPROUDLY FOLLOWING A DRUG ADDICT IN LIMBAUGHT.\r\nAND AN ALCOHOLIC IN BUSH.\r\n----------------\r\nHOW DID A HITLER GET AN ENTIRE COUNRTY TO FOLLOW HIS HATRED?\r\nHOW MANY DRUG ADDICTS WERE IN HIS &quot;CABINET&quot;\r\n\r\nGET REAL AND GET A CLUE AND YOU WONT BE SO DELUSIONAL.\r\n","author":"Sy$TeMF@iLuRe","parent_id":113632,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-07-03 08:02:29","modified":"2004-07-03 08:02:29","fileurl":""}]}