{"article":{"id":112851,"heading":"KISS YOUR DEMOCRATIC ASS GOODBYE","author":"nOminD","created":"2004-06-18 05:32:25","modified":"2004-06-22 23:41:12","last_modified":"Wed, 23 Jun 2004 06:41:12","article":"

Can you imagine casting your vote electronically without any paper trail? The author is deeply concerned the upcoming 2004 U.S. Election(s) might again be stolen.

AMERICA! DEMAND A TANGIBLE, HUMANLY VERIFIABLE PAPER BALLOT OR KISS YOUR DEMOCRATIC ASS GOODBYE.

Smooch smooch? Don't be a wimp!

Women's Group Drops Support for E-Voting

http:\/\/story.news.yahoo.com\/news?tmpl=story&cid=548&e=10&u=\/ap\/league_electronic_voting<\/a>

A simple way to make computer voting safer By Bev Harris

http:\/\/seattletimes.nwsource.com\/html\/opinion\/2001918663_bevharris04.html<\/a>

\"\"www.bigbrother.gov\"\"

http:\/\/www.seattleweekly.com\/features\/0420\/040519_news_blackboxvoting.php<\/a>

Voting Machines Have Recount Flaw

http:\/\/alberta.indymedia.org\/news\/2004\/06\/10496.php<\/a>

Concerns over US computer voting

http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/americas\/3489877.stm<\/a>

CORPORATIONS SUCK! WAKE UP!!!

Email your reps today!

<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Can you imagine casting your vote electronically without any paper trail? The author is \r\n\r\nconcerned the 2004 U.S. Election might again be stolen. AMERICA! DEMAND A TANGIBLE, HUMANLY \r\n\r\nVERIFIABLE PAPER BALLOT OR KISS YOUR DEMOCRATIC ASS GOODBYE. \r\n","numcomment":20,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2004\/06\/112851.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":112852,"heading":"The Election wasn't stolen","article":"The election wasn't stolen. The Florida Supreme Court, the Al Gore Campaign, and their million dollar lawyer all tried their level best to steal the election, but they failed thanks to the US Surpreme Court and the law of the land.\r\n\r\nThank god for that. \r\n\r\nI just can't imagine Albert Gore in the White House. Did you see him on TV a week or so back? The guy's as nutty as John Dean.","author":"BA","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-18 07:30:48","modified":"2004-06-18 07:30:48","fileurl":""},{"id":112853,"heading":"they will be if we use these machines","article":"A group of experts and computer scientists determined a while back that the best method of voting would be to use paper ballots and computer scanning.\r\n\r\nThis would be a step "backward" from the current ink-a-vote and punch card systems. The ballot would have the candidates printed right on the ballot, just like back before these voting machines.\r\n\r\nYou'd mark your choices with a special ink pen, and the ballot would go into a scanner, and then you'd get a receipt, to verify proper scanning. That receipt would include a digital pattern that would be keyed back to your ballot. Then the ballot would go into a box for safe keeping.\r\n\r\nThis system would be a vast improvement over the current system, and provide extreme secrecy *and* paper and digital trails to prevent fraud. It would provide "instant" poll results too.\r\n\r\nIn contrast, the Diebold and other machines are more like ATMs. Your vote is "stored" in a computer database. You get a "paper trail" that allegedly cannot be faked... except that the vote itself can be faked, while the paper trail displays your vote. So, votes can be faked in the available commercial systems with a paper trail.\r\n\r\nFrankly, this is like "storing" a contract on a computer. Only a fool entrusts an important contract to a computer. Normal people get printouts, signatures, photocopies, etc. and store the contract in a fireproof box.\r\n\r\nBallots are like a contract. They should be on paper, marked in ink, with the candidate names right on the ballot.\r\n\r\nNotice that most of the people making noise about this are Democrats. That's probably because Diebold's boss is a big Republican fundraiser. Talk about corruption!","author":"more rational","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-18 07:43:07","modified":"2004-06-18 07:43:07","fileurl":""},{"id":112857,"heading":"another thing","article":"Here's an article by another conservative Black, but one who doesn't enjoy kissing white pundit ass.\r\n\r\nTony Brown basically says that the wealth gap is due to a lack of asset transfer from parents to children: inheritance. He attributes the greatest hurdle to achieving inheritance to racism in lending, as well as racism in employment.\r\n\r\nJust to repeat, Tony Brown is a conservative, not a liberal.\r\n\r\nLarry Elder is a self-hating colored person and an negro puppet for racists, not a black person.\r\n\r\nHere's another article. It comes from a more radical position:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/kat.gr\/Kat\/History\/Txt\/Ec\/BlackTechR.htm","author":"more rational","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-18 08:18:02","modified":"2004-06-18 08:18:02","fileurl":""},{"id":112863,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"....didja ever notice that republican cannot help but return to the scene of the crime? Disasters in Iraq....Conventions in NYC....\r\n\r\n...and all ya gotta do is mentioned da shrubs theft of the last election and you can bet your ass that the bushblower will take a minute or two break from suckin' cock to chant his programmed mantra....\r\n\r\n...pathologically criminal behavior....","author":"KPC","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-18 14:41:18","modified":"2004-06-18 14:41:18","fileurl":""},{"id":112891,"heading":"Tony Brown agrees with Elder","article":"The argument about inheritance makes little sense. \r\n\r\nIt's liberals that LOVE the idea of an estate tax ("death tax") on inheritances. Some of the "better" leftist kooks have demanded a setup where NO money is allowed to be passed on to heirs.\r\n\r\n\r\nDetails about Brown: \r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.unc.edu\/courses\/pre2000fall\/afam067\/Internet%20Articles\/WEEK13(Nov%209&11)\/Independant's%20Day.htm\r\n\r\nTony Brown has just fired off an angry letter to Time, but "I don't expect them to publish it." His temper has flared over the glowing praise given to Julian Bond's take-no-prisoners defense of affirmative action before the NAACP. Brown's letter describes Bond as a slippery character whose "ultimate god" is "the liberal white establishment." \r\n\r\nClearly no steward of that establishment, Brown is hard to categorize politically; he seems to belong to a party of one. In the same letter, he blasts affirmative-action foe Ward Connerly as someone who "fiat out hates black people." As host of the PBS series "Toffy Brown's Journal," one of the nation's longest-running TV shows, Brown exalts economic self-reliance for the black community. "Money is the currency of power," he explains. "If all whites fell in love with all blacks and racism disappeared, nothing would change for most blacks." \r\n\r\nIn his book Black Lies, White Lies, Brown attacks "lies...perpetrated by black elitists who censor anyone who dares to challenge them," as well as lies by "white liberals who have stifled black economic development for generations by leading them down the path of dependence." He frankly declares that racial peace does not have to mean immediate integration: "We do not have to like each other. We do not have to live next door to each other." \r\n\r\nBrown despises affirmative action, telling TAE "we have alienated and marginalized the black community with affirmative action, and we've convinced many if not most whites that blacks can't compete." He condemns President Clinton for not being "sincerely interested in bringing about economic and educational equality for black people," which is shown, for example, by the appointment of establishment liberal John Hope Franklin to chair the national race commission. \r\n\r\n-------\r\n\r\n\r\nNot sure what Elder thinks about Connerly, but he more or less agrees with what Brown says.\r\n\r\nSo how exactly is Elder a suckup and not Brown? \r\n\r\nElder has also been saying the exact same thing \r\nabout black self-reliance and education for YEARS that Bill Cosby recently did. \r\n\r\n","author":"and vice versa","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-18 22:13:52","modified":"2004-06-18 22:13:52","fileurl":""},{"id":112893,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...if Larry Elder or Tony Brown were white, they'd just be another nodding dittohead and no republican would be paying any attention to them.\r\n\r\nDo you think any of these step-n-fetchits represent ANY segment of the American public, othere than those they think they serve?\r\n\r\n...and when are republicans gonna stop whining and take caresome personal responsibility..."Ooooh, there gonna tax the money my daddie stole, so I actually have to WORK to support myself. Oh, it is so unfair...."\r\n\r\nQuit being a victim ya fuckin' pussy...quit leachin' off yer parents and the rest of society and get a job...do something productive instead of whining like a bitch.\r\n\r\n...ya lazy-ass fuckin' mooch...","author":"KPC","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-18 22:22:57","modified":"2004-06-18 22:22:57","fileurl":""},{"id":112908,"heading":"elder, connerly, brown","article":"I bet that Elder probably stays mum on Connerly. Maybe they agree.\r\n\r\nBrown's his own thing. He's about self-empowerment. He predates Elder, and is typical PBS moderate\/conservative, like Lou Rukeyser or another of those business shows.\r\n","author":"more rational","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 05:01:30","modified":"2004-06-19 05:01:30","fileurl":""},{"id":112912,"heading":"KPC ON PCP?","article":"...if Larry Elder or Tony Brown were white, they'd just be another nodding dittohead and no republican would be paying any attention to them. \r\n\r\n---more racism from a leftist nitwit. Elder and Brown aren't involved in blackmail\/shakedowns of legit businesses like Je$$e Jackson and Al 'Liar' Sharpton. Their shows are value-added.\r\n\r\nDo you think any of these step-n-fetchits represent ANY segment of the American public, othere than those they think they serve? \r\n\r\n---they represent self-reliance and not crawling through life acting like victims to get free goodies. Like say, oh, Kweisi Mfume.\r\n\r\n---Now I know, as a leftist racist, it's important to you that all blacks stay on the democ-rat plantation, without which your damned party is as good as dead. While worshipping the Donkey, black illegitimacy has shot up to 60 percent. \r\n\r\n---Also, go find Bill Cosby's recent speech online. Cosby is also a democ-rat but unlike the exploiters he KNOWS the barn is burning and refuses to ignore it. \r\n\r\n---from your whining, one might think you were personally ass-raped by a Republican. or maybe a Republican shot your dog. who the fuck knows. frankly, you're so screwed up with rage I hope to hell you're taking some kind of meds. \r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n","author":"Hal Jalykakik","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 06:18:28","modified":"2004-06-19 06:18:28","fileurl":""},{"id":112923,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...nahh...republicans haven't done much...just fuck the entire country, that's all...","author":"KPC","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 15:53:35","modified":"2004-06-19 15:53:35","fileurl":""},{"id":112924,"heading":"Uh, popeye..","article":"The democrats haven't done a bad job of forced carnal knowledge themselves. Look at the OTHER skull & bones pervert they have given us.\r\nI think we should stop depending upon an 'election' to cure our nation.\r\nEven if they allow a clean one to occur. We are the Enemy now.\r\nWe should get ready for the roundup.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 16:16:04","modified":"2004-06-19 16:16:04","fileurl":""},{"id":112931,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...yeah, we're gettin' sore on both ends....no doubt about it...and will continue to get it...\r\n\r\n...but just a little bit of lube would be nice....\r\n\r\n","author":"KPC","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 18:33:57","modified":"2004-06-19 18:33:57","fileurl":""},{"id":112933,"heading":"for KPC: seize this opportunity","article":"We've all heard the insults, now how 'bout some substance. \r\n\r\nWhy don't you write even ONE paragraph on how YOU would fix the "broken" USA? Be specific. No copouts like, "I'd just get rid of Bush" and that's that. \r\n\r\nPretend you were in charge and start from there.\r\n\r\nPerfesser Abdul will not insult you for your candor or use of bad words. Just make a point.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n ","author":"Perfesser Abdul","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 18:56:50","modified":"2004-06-19 18:56:50","fileurl":""},{"id":112934,"heading":"uh, 'perfessor'","article":"After you get the ideas, proposals and recommendations, what will you do?\r\nNothing.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 19:14:42","modified":"2004-06-19 19:14:42","fileurl":""},{"id":112939,"heading":"s\/he will answer the call or not","article":"Sheepdog, \r\n\r\nIt's Perfesser, not Perfessor.\r\n\r\nThe choice is KPC's (unless --your-- KPC) whether to respond. \r\n\r\nKPC, ( he or she) posts the most insults but zero suggestions or solutions.\r\n\r\nLet's see if there's any substance behind the mask. \r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Perfesser Abdul","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 20:05:49","modified":"2004-06-19 20:05:49","fileurl":""},{"id":112943,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Let me see...you want me to put my dick where? \r\n\r\n...no thanks...let me remind you of how this works...\r\n\r\n...you make the same ol' stupid, hackneyed, tired remarks, distortions, ignorant claims and lies....\r\n\r\n.....and I make fun of you.\r\n\r\nWhen YOU have something of substance to say...OR ask...or to add that isn't the same ol tripe we've all heard a thousand fuckin times before....then I will respond. Until you do, derision is all republican deserve, and is all it will get....so fuck you and your "Save da Country in a Paragraph Contest".\r\n\r\n\r\nY'know what republican reminds me of...republican reminds me of a guy that walks into a room full of sailors and yells "everybody KNOWS you can't sail around the world...'cause it's flat and you'll fall off the edge". He then walks outside and laughs to himself about how stupid sailors are, without realizing what a complete idiot he just demonstrated himself to be.\r\n\r\n...yeah...republican just like that.","author":"KPC","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 21:43:41","modified":"2004-06-19 21:43:41","fileurl":""},{"id":112948,"heading":"You think Republicans are Flat Earthers?","article":"Republicans aren't the ones going around saying "Marxist\/Leninism really works, it really does!!!"","author":"Barney","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-19 22:42:46","modified":"2004-06-19 22:42:46","fileurl":""},{"id":112950,"heading":"Just as I thought KPC = Tourette's Syndrome","article":"Let me see...you want me to put my dick where? \r\n\r\n----Your dick's not the problem, it's that your head's up your ass. Every time you mouth off, you will get beat down. Except by now, you're probaby used to it.\r\n\r\n...no thanks...let me remind you of how this works... \r\n...you make the same ol' stupid, hackneyed, tired remarks, distortions, ignorant claims and lies.... \r\n.....and I make fun of you. \r\n\r\n----see, here's the problem with that: you're not good at debating, you provide no factual basis for your arguments, and the worst sin of all: you're not entertaining. \r\n\r\n-----Any 14-year-old with hippie parents, a psycopathic irrational hatred of Republicans and a laundry -list of insults could do the same thing you do. \r\n\r\n------Many debates with sheepdog, more rational and johnk are ruined by your embarrassing tag-a-long insults. I'm sure there are more leftists embarrassed by your antics than rightists. Even the guy carrying a BUSH LIAR protest sign has more reserve. \r\n\r\nWhen YOU have something of substance to say...OR ask...or to add that isn't the same ol tripe we've all heard a thousand fuckin times before....then I will respond. Until you do, derision is all republican deserve, and is all it will get....so fuck you and your "Save da Country in a Paragraph Contest". \r\n\r\n-----Anarchists, Socialists, Greens and "even" Democrats at one time or another have all written half-page explanations of their beliefs and what they think should be done. \r\n\r\n-----I don't agree with the guy who says "US out of Iraq," but at least he's standing up for what he believes and not just cut-n-pasting "REpulican suck!" every time. \r\nHe's not just cursing like a Tourette's patient.\r\n\r\n\r\nY'know what republican reminds me of...republican reminds me of a guy that walks into a room full of sailors and yells "everybody KNOWS you can't sail around the world...'cause it's flat and you'll fall off the edge". He then walks outside and laughs to himself about how stupid sailors are, without realizing what a complete idiot he just demonstrated himself to be. \r\n\r\n-------and a democrat is someone who "knows" the earth is round but would rather pretend it's still flat because there's money to be made off living a lie...there's a free grovenrment check in still claiming it's still flat.\r\n\r\n-------so shit or get off the pot. \r\n","author":"Perfesser Abdul","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-20 00:25:06","modified":"2004-06-20 00:25:06","fileurl":""},{"id":113049,"heading":"Perfesser about sheepdog","article":"He can't his head is in the way.","author":"Hawkins","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-21 17:53:20","modified":"2004-06-21 17:53:20","fileurl":""},{"id":113050,"heading":"that Bastard sheepdog","article":"I hate him. Your right.","author":"BA Admirer","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-21 18:01:23","modified":"2004-06-21 18:01:23","fileurl":""},{"id":113098,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Gilligan: "and a democrat is someone who "knows" the earth is round but would rather pretend it's still flat because there's money to be made off living a lie...there's a free grovenrment check in still claiming it's still flat. "\r\n\r\nI said it before and I will say it again; When YOU have something of substance to say...OR ask...or to add that isn't the same ol tripe we've all heard a thousand fuckin times before....then I will respond. Until you do, derision is all republican deserve, and is all it will get.\r\n\r\nAs for my debating skills; I have never debated you. So your opinions about my "skills" are like most republican opinions...ill informed and distorted beyond fact. \r\n\r\nWhy should I bother debating you, lil' buddy? I know what you are going to say before you know what you are going to say;\r\n\r\n"....blah blah blah democrats...\r\n...blah blah blah welfare...\r\n...blah blah blah america-haters...\r\n...blah blah blah why don't you go to North Korea...\r\n...blah blah blah algore...\r\n...blah blah blah socialist...\r\n...blah blah blah smelly hippies...\r\n...blah blah blah savages...\r\n...blah blah blah flip-flop...\r\n...blah blah blah *paste stupid republican campaign buzzword here*\r\n\r\n\r\nNow, by all means Hercules, proceed to "beat me down"...","author":"KPC","parent_id":112851,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-22 23:41:15","modified":"2004-06-22 23:41:15","fileurl":""}]}