{"article":{"id":112704,"heading":"Support the Hunger Strike Against Taco Bell","author":"IMC Repost","created":"2004-06-16 14:33:23","modified":"2004-06-23 23:41:17","last_modified":"Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:41:17","article":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p>Things are heating up at UCLA where 47 students have been or are hunger  <br>  <br> striking.  Tomorrow, Tuesday, June 15 is a National Day of Action to support  <br>  <br> the striking UCLA students and pressure ASUCLA to kick Taco Bell off  <br>  <br> UCLA's campus!   UCLA is at an absolutely crucial point right now - as their  <br>  <br> Hunger Strike enters Day 7, students are asking everyone to both call and e- <br>  <br> mail ASUCLA to let them know that until Taco Bell can guarantee that there is  <br>  <br> no exploitation in its supply chain, Taco Bell does not deserve to do business  <br>  <br> on UCLA's campus!    <br><br> Please call Bob Williams, Interim Executive Director of ASUCLA, at (310)-825- <br>  <br> 8011 and tell him that you support the hunger strikers and the students' efforts  <br>  <br> to hold Taco Bell to UCLA's strict code of conduct.    <br><br> Click below to send an e-mail to Bob Williams and Charles Harless, chair of  <br>  <br> the ASUCLA Board of Directors!       <br><br> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.unionvoice.org\/campaign\/UCLATacoBell\/\">http:\/\/www.unionvoice.org\/campaign\/UCLATacoBell\/<\/a>  <br><br> To let the students know you called, you can e-mail them at <a href=\"mailto:theec@ucla.edu\">theec@ucla.edu<\/a>.   <br>  <br> Thank you!  <br><br> <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Students at UCLA are on a hunger strike to support tomato pickers who are demanding a living wage.  They are on day 7 and need you support.","numcomment":21,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2004\/06\/112704.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":112742,"heading":"Eat WHERE you want to eat","article":"Don't let a bunch of spoiled a-holes led by Professor Commie dictate where and what you eat!\r\n\r\nFREEDOM OF CHOICE\r\n\r\nFREE MARKETS\r\n\r\n","author":"Attention students","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-06-16 21:38:02","modified":"2005-08-15 02:58:16","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/taco_bell_rules.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/taco_bell_rules.jpg"}},{"id":112748,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...nobody is dictating anything...you wanna eat that shit, go ahead...you wanna join the hunger strike...go ahead...and these are students...not professors...and they aren't communists, you fuckin' throwback...\r\n\r\n\r\n....oh...that's right, you are republican, to which reality is an anathema....\r\n\r\n...well, in that case, curtail your meds and continue on your delusional downward spiral....where eating shitty food is a statement of freedom and Professor Commie is fuckin' your wife while you are in the basement eating Cheetos and posting.","author":"KPC","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-16 22:27:17","modified":"2004-06-16 22:27:17","fileurl":""},{"id":112761,"heading":"ucla is dictating","article":"UCLA is &quot;dictating&quot; what choices the students have at the student union.  None of the hunger strikers is &quot;dictating&quot; anything.  They are voluntarily suffering to make a point and get media attention.  If you feel like these hungry kids are, somehow, forcing you to not do something you wish, you don't have much backbone.\r\n\r\nEat what you want.  If you want to eat food that's been picked by people being exploited, go right ahead.  Know that they suffer for your enchirito.\r\n\r\nI'm boycotting the bell.  It's easy enough.  I prefer del taco anyway, and there are a lot of good indie taco shops in LA.","author":"more rational","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 01:03:24","modified":"2004-06-17 01:03:24","fileurl":""},{"id":112765,"heading":"Pissant students at a pissant college","article":"Who cares what left-leaning pissant students at a pissant college eat or protest? \r\n\r\nWithdraw taxpayer funding and get on with it.\r\n\r\nUCLA was once a decent collect. Berkeley once was too but that was many many years ago. Both of them have been taken over by loons and are beyond redemption at this point. The best thing for the taxpayer would be to shut them both down.","author":"BA","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 01:43:44","modified":"2004-06-17 01:43:44","fileurl":""},{"id":112767,"heading":"&quot;Starving&quot; for attention","article":"....nobody is dictating anything...you wanna eat that shit, go ahead...you wanna join the hunger strike...go ahead...and these are students...not professors...and they aren't communists, you fuckin' throwback... \r\n\r\n****  there's always one very special asshole behind these protests......on a campus where 95% of professors admit to being victicrats and to preaching that goofiness, I wouldn't be surprised at all if on had the nerve to step forward.\r\n\r\n**** No 19-yr-old straight out of high school knows or cares anything about migrant farmers or whatever flavor-of-the-month cause is out there.  These gayass protests are little more than ego-stroking for nimrods.  And while these dorks take &quot;rotating shifts&quot; of hunger striking, other nation's students are studying.\r\n\r\n....oh...that's right, you are republican, to which reality is an anathema.... \r\n\r\n****  the reality is the modern victicrat or &quot;green&quot; is virtually a commie.  you can change the name to &quot;progressive&quot; but it's the same old shit.  \r\n\r\n\r\n...well, in that case, curtail your meds and continue on your delusional downward spiral....where eating shitty food is a statement of freedom and Professor Commie is fuckin' your wife while you are in the basement eating Cheetos and posting.\r\n\r\n****  you are a sad little fellow, but I thank you.  Just knowing there are thousands, if not millions like you filling the ranks of the victicrats, your party is doomed.  Even if, by mass insanity, victicrats are ever an elected majority again, they're STILL doomed because they're victicrats.  The Republican is now the revolutionary, fucker.  YOU are the establishment goon.\r\n\r\n -----------------------\r\n\r\nUCLA is &quot;dictating&quot; what choices the students have at the student union. None of the hunger strikers is &quot;dictating&quot; anything. They are voluntarily suffering to make a point and get media attention. If you feel like these hungry kids are, somehow, forcing you to not do something you wish, you don't have much backbone. \r\n\r\n**** UCLA is not doing anything but leasing campus space for the mutual benefit of itself and a company, a company whose products people obviously want.\r\n\r\n****  These &quot;hungry kids&quot; aren't starving, and even if one of them were to actually starve, it's an ineffective, egregious non-solution.     \r\n\r\nEat what you want. If you want to eat food that's been picked by people being exploited, go right ahead. Know that they suffer for your enchirito. \r\n\r\n****  It's not my fault that everyone in the world can't  marry Theresa Heinz Kerry.  We both vote with our dollars.  If you want to call an enterprise exploitive, that's your right.   However, both our perceptions of what is exploitation are not universal.   \r\n\r\n****  From where I'm sitting (and it ain't no throne)  exploitation of the working class has always been the racket of the socialist, who creates no jobs except for his own as paid protester, and raises the prices of goods and services for everyone, including the worker he pretends to save.  \r\n\r\n**** One can't simultaneously oppose profits and expect a higher standard of living to be created out of thin air.\r\n\r\nMy 2-cents, found in the parking lot of a 7-11.","author":"Taco Fun","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 02:09:02","modified":"2004-06-17 02:09:02","fileurl":""},{"id":112773,"heading":"exploitation it is","article":"&quot;If you want to call an enterprise exploitive, that's your right. However, both our perceptions of what is exploitation are not universal.&quot;\r\n\r\nWould you pick tomatos at 1 cent per pound?\r\n\r\nDidn't think so.\r\n\r\nRaise it to 2c per pound, as they demand, and the pickers will make a good wage.  Get something in between, and that's still a drastic improvement.\r\n\r\nAt 1c per pound, you need to pick 6000 pounds a day to make $60.  If you work a 10 hour day, that's 600 pounds per hour, or 10 pounds per minute, without breaks.  It's not an impossible job, but there is virtuallly no way to improve your situation in life if you do this job.  That is exploitation.\r\n\r\nA soda at a fountain at Taco Bell costs over $1.  That's for a 5c cup,  a cent worth of syrup and soda water.  That's also exploitation, of the customer.\r\n\r\n(BA, you're back on &quot;ignore&quot;.)","author":"more rational","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 05:06:43","modified":"2004-06-17 05:06:43","fileurl":""},{"id":112778,"heading":"Ploit and exploit","article":"\r\nWould you pick tomatoes at 1 cent per pound? Didn't think so. \r\n\r\n****  Would you?  Would you take the tomato picker's place for even 6 cents an hour?  Would any of those spoiled UCLA know-nothings?  It's posturing, plain and simple (them, not you).  \r\n\r\nRaise it to 2c per pound, as they demand, and the pickers will make a good wage. Get something in between, and that's still a drastic improvement. \r\n\r\n****  Socialism sticks a gun in the field owner's face and says, &quot;You will pay a minimum of 2c per worker minimum wage.&quot;  Guess what happens next?  Half the workers are fired, because the &quot;extra&quot; money to pay the workers has to come from somewhere.\r\n\r\n****  But wait, Socialism says...the rich can afford the minimum wage!  Yeah, for now.  But the plans to buy farm machinery with the profits (not altruism, but common sense; machinery = more profits) to increase productivity have to be placed on hold.\r\n\r\n****  There are more choices in America every day for &quot;more compassionate&quot; folks like you willing to pay 5 to 10 times more for the same food and drink so they won't feel bad about exploitation going on elsewhere.  Which is fine.\r\n\r\n****  If the market can bear it and enlightened folks who actually &quot;feel the heartbeat of the rain forest&quot; are willing to pay the extra, good for everyone.  But don't step on the dicks of a legal company in a self-righteous march (not you personally) because someone found a way to do something faster, cheaper or better. \r\n\r\n At 1c per pound, you need to pick 6000 pounds a day to make $60. If you work a 10 hour day, that's 600 pounds per hour, or 10 pounds per minute, without breaks. It's not an impossible job, but there is virtually no way to improve your situation in life if you do this job. That is exploitation. \r\n\r\n\r\n****  By America 2004 standards, yes, it's exploitive.  But in the countries where it's taking place, how can you be so sure?  What is the increase of a penny in wages to an American?\r\n\r\n**** America was an agrarian culture for its first 150 years.  &quot;Somehow&quot; from humble beginnings, over generations, wealth &quot;mysteriously&quot; appeared as new technologies came into existence and  wages grew higher.  \r\n\r\n**** The socialist demands Utopia NOW, but hasn\u2019t thought about where wealth comes from, or how a high standard of living came into being for his comparisons.\r\n\r\nIf all those &quot;hungry&quot; UCLA kids wasting their parents' tuition bought only used cars and clothes for the 4 years they were in school, how much farming equipment for poor countries would that money buy?  \r\n       Posturing.  Self-indulgence.  Next week they\u2019ll move on to crying \u201cFree Mumia\u201d or Save-the-Narwals.  \r\n\r\nA soda at a fountain at Taco Bell costs over $1. That's for a 5c cup, a cent worth of syrup and soda water. That's also exploitation, of the customer. \r\n\r\n****  Customers who buy those sodas disagree.  The 95 cents \u201cexploitation\u201d also pays for transportation of the goods, the lease on the business, employees\u2019 wages, etc, not just the \u201cfat cats\u2019\u201d pensions.  \r\n\r\n****  You know as well as I we  can go to the supermarket and buy a 2-liter bottle of coke for 89c to a buck.  If you\u2019re frugal enough, you could take it everywhere with you, along with ice, a cooler and cups.  But would you?  Most people would rather take \u201cthe hit\u201d and buy the Coke for a buck.  It\u2019s still win-win.\r\n\r\n**** Is there suffering going on all over the world?  Yes.  Are there greedy assholes everywhere?  Yes.   Is capitalism still the fastest way to wealth?  Yes.\r\n\r\n**** \u201cThere are no solutions, only tradeoffs.\u201d  I think this, more than anything, is what Socialism can\u2019t understand.  That and how wealth is created.\r\n\r\n  \r\n","author":"Taco Fun","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 06:21:43","modified":"2013-11-11 00:30:10","fileurl":""},{"id":112793,"heading":"Taco Smell's Retarded Capitalist Logic","article":"**** Would you? Would you take the tomato picker's place for even 6 cents an hour? Would any of those spoiled UCLA\r\nknow-nothings? It's posturing, plain and simple (them, not you). \r\n- There is no such thing as posturing when people act out of altruism to improve the status of people who are less privileged than they are.  But you wouldn't understand that since you seem to buy into capitalist individualism where you think you are the center of the universe.  Everybody work to feed me. Maybe you need to be starved for a while yourself to get some perspective.\r\n\r\n**** Socialism sticks a gun in the field owner's face and says, &quot;You will pay a minimum of 2c per worker minimum\r\nwage.&quot; Guess what happens next? Half the workers are fired, because the &quot;extra&quot; money to pay the workers has to\r\ncome from somewhere.\r\n**** Capitalism takes all of your hard earned money and gives it to the rich and says, 'hey, at least you have a choice.\r\nYou got screwed by the rich, its your fault, not theirs.' Meanwhile a bunch of greedy assholes, who were rich to begin with, continue to make more money off the exploitation of others with impunity.\r\n \r\n**** But wait, Socialism says...the rich can afford the minimum wage! Yeah, for now. But the plans to buy farm\r\nmachinery with the profits (not altruism, but common sense; machinery = more profits) to increase productivity have to\r\nbe placed on hold.\r\n**** Yes, they can afford it; these jerks make so much\r\nmoney, and hide most of it from the tax man, that they\r\ncan easily afford both mechanized and human labor. You\r\nseem to forget that capitalism is also based on commodity\r\nsurpluses.   \r\n\r\n**** There are more choices in America every day for &quot;more compassionate&quot; folks like you willing to pay 5 to 10 times\r\nmore for the same food and drink so they won't feel bad about exploitation going on elsewhere. Which is fine.\r\n- What good is choice if you can't afford it?  Many products\r\non the market are just the same shit with different labels,\r\nwhose value is based on capital investment in commodities,\r\nnot their actual worth.\r\n**** If the market can bear it and enlightened folks who actually &quot;feel the heartbeat of the rain forest&quot; are willing the extra, good for everyone. But don't step on the dicks of a legal company in a self-righteous march (not you\r\npersonally) because someone found a way to do something faster, cheaper or better. \r\n-- Why no if those so-called legal companies (like Enron\r\nand Haliburton I suppose, choose greed over altruism?\r\n\r\n                               At 1c per pound, you need to pick 6000 pounds a day to make $60. If you work a 10 hour day, that's 600 pounds per\r\n\r\n **** By America 2004 standards, yes, it's exploitive. But in the countries where it's taking place, how can you be so\r\nsure? What is the increase of a penny in wages to an American? \r\n-- Because the lowered standard of living and lower wages in other countries is connected to the market practices of \r\nthe U.S. and other so-called &quot;first world&quot; nations, which \r\ndevalue the labor and monetary systems of said countries.\r\nDuh...I figured an anti-socialist would recognize that.\r\n\r\n**** America was an agrarian culture for its first 150 years. &quot;Somehow&quot; from humble beginnings, over generations,\r\nwealth &quot;mysteriously&quot; appeared as new technologies came into existence and wages grew higher. \r\n-- Wealth appeared as the early American mercantilist classes\r\nproduced surpluses from an exploited labor source of indentured servants and later, black slaves, while taking away land from Native Americans to produce those surpluses.\r\nDuh again...Your whitewash of history shows that you don't even know the history of the system you value so much.\r\n\r\n**** The socialist demands Utopia NOW, but hasn\u2019t thought about where wealth comes from, or how a high standard\r\nof living came into being for his comparisons. \r\n-- Socialist, smochalist! Obviously, you don't even know\r\nwhat the term means nor understand how the higher standard\r\nof living in the U.S. came as a result of the exploitation\r\nof labor in addition to the development of technology.\r\n\r\nIf all those &quot;hungry&quot; UCLA kids wasting their parents' tuition bought only used cars and clothes for the 4 years they were in school, how much farming equipment for poor countries would that money buy? Posturing. Self-indulgence. Next week they\u2019ll move on to crying \u201cFree Mumia\u201d or Save-the-Narwals. \r\n\r\n-- UCLA has a high percentage of working class and lower\r\nmiddle class students who do drive used cars and work their\r\nway through college, unlike the conservative pricks at \r\nIvy League schools who live off mommy and daddy's trust\r\nfunds and go off into corporate positions where they can\r\nlegally fuck seniors out of their retirement funds\r\nHow come corporations can't pay for the equipment if\r\ntheir making such huge profits?  Because they don't want\r\nto out of greed, duh...\r\n\r\n**** Customers who buy those sodas disagree. The 95 cents \u201cexploitation\u201d also pays for transportation of the goods,\r\nthe lease on the business, employees\u2019 wages, etc, not just the \u201cfat cats\u2019\u201d pensions.\r\n-- But these expenses are fundamental, and predicated on\r\nthe lower wages that result in higher profit margins, so \r\nthe CEOs can give themselves higher salaries for their \r\njob of exploiting people.\r\n \r\n **** You know as well as I we can go to the supermarket and buy a 2-liter bottle of coke for 89c to a buck. If you\u2019re\r\nfrugal enough, you could take it everywhere with you, along with ice, a cooler and cups. But would you? Most people\r\nwould rather take \u201cthe hit\u201d and buy the Coke for a buck. It\u2019s still win-win. \r\nYeah, sure, lazy people like yourself I guess, who impose\r\ntheir &quot;give me convenience because I'm lazy&quot; logic on other \r\npeople to justify their sorry arguments in favor of \r\nexploitation.\r\n\r\n**** Is there suffering going on all over the world? Yes. Are there greedy assholes everywhere? Yes. Is capitalism still\r\nthe fastest way to wealth? Yes. \r\nThe logic of this comment is so retarded its not really worthy of a response. At least you recognize greed, good boy,\r\nnow are you ready to learn the ABC's of why capitalism can't\r\nfunction without it.  People can make a profit with self-sustaining economies that are not predicated on exploitation\r\nand surpluses, but you seem to be too ignorant of other\r\napproaches to market economics to be sure.\r\n\r\n**** \u201cThere are no solutions, only tradeoffs.\u201d I think this, more than anything, is what Socialism can\u2019t understand. That\r\nand how wealth is created. \r\n\r\nCapitalists don't understand that the notion of wealth is also a construction, since much of that wealth does not come\r\nfrom the actual value of natural resources and labor, but \r\non the commodification of it base on how much wealthy people are willing to invest in it. All of this goes back to the Market Revolution where this countries forefathers decided\r\nthat this would be a materialistic society based on the \r\naccumulation of money and commodities, and yet these morons\r\nclaimed to be christians, but they not only violated one\r\nof the very commandmants that they jammed down Native Americans throats, but also just want to be rich like the\r\naristocracy that they broke away from in England. \r\nSo what's your point.\r\n\r\nMr. Taco Smell immediately coughs up the, &quot;oh, they must\r\nbe socialists if they're challenging corporate American&quot;\r\nargument and tries to flaunt some retarded understand\r\nof both ideologies (socialist and capitalist) to discredit\r\nyoung people who are taking a stand against capitalist exploitation.\r\n\r\nI suppose you'd be more happy with the current administration that lies to the American public for the purposes of expanding its markets into the Middle East as well as\r\nLatin America.  \r\nBut that's also the problem with these pseudo-capitalist\r\nmorons (pseudo because you don't even know the whole\r\nimport of the ideology you value), they're just a bunch\r\nof liars.\r\n\r\nThank the lord the kids don't believe you.  The future's\r\nlooking better every day.  Wait until we kick the \r\ncokehead out of office and regulate his successor...\r\n  \r\n\r\n","author":"pigs at the trough","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 13:58:41","modified":"2013-11-11 00:30:10","fileurl":""},{"id":112794,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"idiot: &quot;No 19-yr-old straight out of high school knows or cares anything about migrant farmers &quot;\r\n\r\n...um, the children of migrant farmworkers go to college, too...\r\n\r\n...do us a favor dingleberry, if you're gonna stink up the place with your swilly breat, try to keep it short.  You can demonstrate you idiocy much more efficiently if ya just tried for crissakes!","author":"KPC","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 14:04:55","modified":"2004-06-17 14:04:55","fileurl":""},{"id":112797,"heading":"short enough?","article":"<i>...do us a favor...if you're gonna stink up the place...try to keep it short. <\/i>\r\n<P>\r\n<B>FUCK OFF, SUBNORMAL.<\/B>\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"KPC's special ed teacher","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2004-06-17 14:28:41","modified":"2004-06-17 14:28:41","fileurl":""},{"id":112798,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"..better...better...\r\n\r\n.....but still, that is more a display of your arrogance than your ignorance...\r\n\r\n...try again, I KNOW you can do it!","author":"KPC","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 14:35:51","modified":"2004-06-17 14:35:51","fileurl":""},{"id":112800,"heading":"Taco Bell is the shizzle","article":"&quot;But you wouldn't understand that since you seem to buy into capitalist individualism where you think you are the center of the universe. Everybody work to feed me. Maybe you need to be starved for a while yourself to get some perspective.&quot; \r\n\r\n-------   I\u2019m going to demonstrate my superior intellect and not waste too much time here.  All your life you've been presented a warped, backwards view of history and economics.  If you're over 25 and still haven't left the liberal Matrix, oh well.  There's such a  thing as 'acceptable losses.'  Turn in the rest of your money to the government.  They're wiser than you are when it comes to such matters.\r\n\r\n-------   In a capitalist system you sell your labor and skills.  If you feel you're being &quot;exploited&quot; you go get more education and skills so you can sell your work at a higher price.  \r\n\r\n-------   I &quot;buy into&quot; what works, not compassion at the end of a gun.  \r\n\r\n-------   America is a culture of commerce.  Deal with it.  Time to hit the Bell.","author":"Taco Bell Rocks","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 14:58:30","modified":"2013-11-11 00:30:10","fileurl":""},{"id":112811,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"pobrecito: &quot;I\u2019m going to demonstrate my superior intellect...&quot;\r\n\r\n...well, we're waiting.....","author":"KPC","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 17:20:05","modified":"2013-11-11 00:30:10","fileurl":""},{"id":112817,"heading":"Still Retarded and Spare the Fake Slang","article":"But you wouldn't understand that since you seem to buy into capitalist individualism where you think you are the center of the universe. Everybody work to feed me. Maybe you need to be starved for a while yourself to get some perspective.&quot; \r\n\r\n------- I\u2019m going to demonstrate my superior intellect and not waste too much time here. All your life you've been presented a warped, backwards view of history and economics. If you're over 25 and still haven't left the liberal Matrix, oh well. There's such a thing as 'acceptable losses.' Turn in the rest of your money to the government. They're wiser than you are when it comes to such matters. \r\n\r\nYeah, right, that's why they lie to us to go to war over WMDS that don't exist.  On the contrary, you need to make like neo and emacipate yourself from the matrix  of economic social mobility for everybody that this country falsely preaches.  \r\n\r\n------- In a capitalist system you sell your labor and skills. If you feel you're being &quot;exploited&quot; you go get more education and skills so you can sell your work at a higher price. \r\n\r\nI'm sorry, the newest studies suggest that the average college grad today will have at least seven jobs in his or her life, irrespective of college education. Its hard to compete with elites who benefit from the privilege system perpetuated by private institutions, fraternities,  etc.  You seem to live under the illusion that we live in a meritocracy in this nation.  Go read some Peggy McIntosh and get a clue.\r\n\r\n------- I &quot;buy into&quot; what works, not compassion at the end of a gun. \r\n\r\nYou buy into what you think you know, but you really\r\ndon't.  I suppose we're supposed to buy into pre-emptive war for imperialist means, which is working just fine in Iraq, right?  But you wouldn't know since\r\nI'm sure you don't have a clue what combat is like unlike the poor saps in the military who have become bush's pawns.   I suppose you woudn't consider the invasion of Iraq as &quot;compassion at the end of a gun.&quot;\r\nHow about the cutting benefits for veterans to grant\r\nmore tax breaks for corporations, is that\r\ncompassionate enough for you?\r\n\r\n------- America is a culture of commerce. Deal with it. Time to hit the Bell.\r\n\r\n-- American is a culture of ideas as well as commerce.  DIfferent ideas and challenging ideas,\r\ndeal with it, since you can't seem to deal with any\r\nperspective that challenges the status quo.\r\n\r\nAnd stop trying to talk like an African American teenager.  Be sure to put some weaksauce in that \r\ntaco of yours.\r\n\r\nAnd we're still waiting for you to demonstrate any intellect other than one of submission.\r\n\r\n","author":"capitalist shizzle","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-17 19:57:42","modified":"2013-11-11 00:30:10","fileurl":""},{"id":112836,"heading":"K-CCCP","article":"You have your beliefs.  I have mine.\r\n\r\nThe difference is, you're wrong.\r\n\r\nOh, and thanks for advice on how to speak MY NIGGA. WHAT IT BE HOMEY?","author":"Two-Eyed Man","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-06-18 01:20:08","modified":"2005-08-15 02:58:16","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/_ngga_.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/_ngga_.jpg"}},{"id":112839,"heading":"thanks KCP!","article":"I found out today, &quot;pobrecito&quot; means &quot;My superior&quot; or &quot;My master.&quot;\r\n\r\nNow it makes perfect sense. \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n","author":"Republican Master","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-06-18 02:15:40","modified":"2005-08-15 02:58:16","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/learn_english.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/learn_english.jpg"}},{"id":112869,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"....very good pobrecito...stupid and concise...with a nice little racist picture to go with it...\r\n\r\n...thanks for discrediting yourself...glad to be of service...\r\n\r\n...next idiot, please?","author":"KPC","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-18 15:26:14","modified":"2004-06-18 15:26:14","fileurl":""},{"id":113105,"heading":"Hey Racist Beyaatch!!!","article":"Did you hear the one about the caca-soid who introduced his friends to his sister and wife and there was only one woman standing there.\r\n\r\nYour comments are indicative of the low intellect of Bruin Republicans, who are just the little bitches for KFI talkradio and other neo-cons shit-eaters.\r\n\r\nWhen you guys are done chewing on reagan's corpse like beef jerky, give me a call when you're intelligent enough to have a real political discussion.","author":"neo-racists suck reagans rotting corpse","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-06-23 00:26:19","modified":"2004-06-23 00:26:19","fileurl":""},{"id":113110,"heading":"Note example A","article":"THIS is the best your fucked-up &quot;culture&quot; can do.  And this maricon isn't even EMBARRASSED to appear in public like this.  \r\n\r\nNO WONDER your lazy brown asses were slaughtered en masse.\r\n\r\nAnd later this century it will happen all over again.\r\n\r\nIf the blacks don't kill you breeder beaners, WE will, culicagado.\r\n\r\nR. Nader\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n","author":"Green party","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-06-23 02:51:50","modified":"2005-08-15 02:58:16","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/example_a.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/example_a.jpg"}},{"id":113130,"heading":"Note Example B","article":"...whereas we true Americans have cultural icons we celebrate with PRIDE!","author":"KPC","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-06-23 19:49:47","modified":"2005-08-15 02:58:17","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/usa_.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/usa_.jpg"}},{"id":113151,"heading":"correcting icons","article":"speedy here was condemned by ratsicans as being 'too accurate.'\r\n\r\nI disagree.  This rat was fast...the only time ratsicans are fast is sneaking over the border.  \r\n\r\n&quot;Slowpoke Rodriguez&quot; (not shown) is the more accurate ratsican.","author":"Vote Kerry","parent_id":112704,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-06-23 23:41:17","modified":"2005-08-15 02:58:17","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/sifree1.jpgtulrxi.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/06\/sifree1.jpgtulrxi.jpg"}}]}