{"article":{"id":110470,"heading":"Nick Berg execution a fraud","author":"more rational","created":"2004-05-18 13:52:17","modified":"2004-05-19 13:26:55","last_modified":"Wed, 19 May 2004 20:26:55","article":"<p>Nick Berg execution a fraud  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  You've seen the pictures, now answer these  <br>  <br>  questions...  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  Since when do 'radical Islamic terrorists'  <br>  <br>  dress their prisoners in US-style orange jump  <br>  <br>  suits?  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  How often have you seen 'radical Islamic terrorists'  <br>  <br>  wearing US-style bullet proof vests and body armor?  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  How many fat and\/or steroid pumped up Iraqi insurgents  <br>  <br>  - or Iraqis - have you seen photographs of in the last  <br>  <br>  ten years? Have you even seen one?  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  Yet we're shown a prisoner in an orange jump suit  <br>  <br>  posed with FIVE beefy guards wearing bullet proof  <br>  <br>  vests and we're supposed to believe he's being  <br>  <br>  held captive by a shadowy Iraqi group.  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  The speed with which the body was identified,  <br>  <br>  the execution video appeared on the air, and the  <br>  <br>  'culprits' were identified is remarkable.  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  As is the timing... Bush &amp; Co. desperately needed  <br>  <br>  something other than torture photos on the front page  <br>  <br>  and this came along just in the nick of time.  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  Oh, and Berg's father states categorically that it  <br>  <br>  was the US holding his son before his murder...  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  How much clearer does this need to be?  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  Final note, common sense, barnyard or battlefield  <br>  <br>  experience and\/or biology class informs us that removing  <br>  <br>  the head from a living being is an extremely bloody  <br>  <br>  undertaking. I don't mean to be gruesome, but the blood  <br>  <br>  spurts fountain-like and in great quantities.  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  Where's the blood?  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br>  I don't know what's more amazing... the utter lameness  <br>  <br>  of this fraud or the fact that so many people are buying  <br>  <br>  it.  <br>  <br>    <br>  <br> ------------------------------------------------------ <br><br> [ my 2c - Even if it's not a complete frame-up, the timing of the video is impeccable, and the fact that it might be a fraud helps bring the veracity of the prison photos into question.  It's just uncanny. ] <br><br> [ If the guards were really al-Qaeda, you have to wonder why the FBI held Berg for almost two weeks, and then released him, and then he was picked up and killed.  Did some insider in the Iraqi police tip off al-Q about a guy who the FBI thought was a real threat to them? Was Berg doing al-Q work?  Was he unwittingly snared up in a plot cooked up by terrorists? ] <br><br> [ The link is to an al Jazeera story about bloggers doubting the video. ]<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/english.aljazeera.net\/NR\/exeres\/4FFA61A3-9C33-4597-A8D9-8079E91F2784.htm","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"The whole world is talking about this.  Enjoy this bait, sharks.","numcomment":4,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2004\/05\/110470.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":110474,"heading":"true","article":"Look at any painting or drawing of beheaded people at any time in European  history but particularly at people guillotened - blood pours from the severed head. And why wasn't their blood all over the jumpsuit?\r\nThe voices may have been Arab, but I wonder if the plump murderers were CIA, Army Intelligence, or Kuwaiti or Saudi Arabian secret police doing a little favor for their US colleagues?","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":110470,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-05-18 14:23:10","modified":"2004-05-18 14:23:10","fileurl":""},{"id":110475,"heading":"decapitation, blood","article":"Or just watch &quot;Kill Bill&quot; for more realistic (if a bit exaggerated) bleeding due to decapitation.","author":"lucius","parent_id":110470,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-05-18 14:32:51","modified":"2004-05-18 14:32:51","fileurl":""},{"id":110476,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...there is something very fishy about all of this....","author":"KPC","parent_id":110470,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-05-18 14:39:53","modified":"2004-05-18 14:39:53","fileurl":""},{"id":110544,"heading":"No Answers - Many Questions","article":"1) Nick Berg was said to be in Iraq looking for work as a communications\r\ntechnician. He told his father that his company, &quot;Prometheus Methods Tower\r\nService,&quot; had been given a contract to repair a radio communications tower\r\nat Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison. As it turns out... Berg's company was NOT on\r\nthe list of approved Iraq contractors. So... what was Berg doing at Abu\r\nGhraib prison and what did he see there?\r\n\r\n2) An extreme American right-wing political activist site published the name\r\nof Berg's father, Michael, as being an &quot;enemy&quot; of America. Michael Berg was\r\nand is against the war in Iraq and had signed an antiwar petition.\r\nPrometheus Methods Tower Service also appears alongside Michael Berg's\r\nsignature on that petition. All of this info ended up on the aforementioned\r\nright-wing website under the heading, &quot;Here's the Enemy.&quot; Who in Iraq saw\r\nthat website?\r\n\r\n3) Berg was arrested on March 24th... supposedly by the Iraqi police at a\r\ncheckpoint in Mosul. He was picked up for &quot;suspicious activities.&quot; Since the\r\nstory of Berg's death broke, the Iraqi police have denied ever having\r\narrested Berg. The Mosul Police Chief stated, &quot;We are under US authority, we\r\ncan't arrest Americans.&quot; Berg's father had complained to the U.S. government\r\nabout his son's whereabouts and his being held without charges. He finally\r\nreceived a State Department letter that said not to worry, that Nick was &quot;in\r\nU.S. army custody.&quot;\r\n\r\n4) Berg was turned over to American forces and held for 13 days. He was\r\nreleased on April 6th. During his detention he was visited 3 times by the\r\nFBI, who wanted to know what he was doing in Iraq.\r\n\r\n5) Before coming to Iraq, Berg had met with 9-11 terror suspect, Zacarias\r\nMoussaoui. Berg and Moussaoui had gone to the same flight school together!\r\nIt's still not known if they knew each other at the time, however, it is\r\nknown that they DID meet at least once. The full story is at CNN:\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2004\/US\/Northeast\/05\/13\/berg.encounter\/\r\n\r\n... apparently Moussaoui had met Berg on a bus... and used Berg's laptop\r\ncomputer to send an e-mail message to someone. Unbelievable but true. The\r\nFBI found Berg's e-mail password in Moussaoui's possession... and wanted to\r\ntalk to Berg about it. FBI agents interrogated Berg in Iraq. Ultimately the\r\nFBI concluded there was no link between the two men.\r\n\r\n6)  After his release from U.S. detention on April 6th... Berg spent the\r\nnext day in a Baghdad hotel. He spoke to no one, not his parents, not the\r\nU.S. government. 72 hours after his release he disappeared. His body was\r\nfound by a U.S. army patrol.\r\n\r\n7) A video tape of Nick Berg's execution was posted on an &quot;Islamic website&quot;\r\npreviously used by Al Qaeda to post messages and video tapes. When the Arab\r\nAl Jazeera news agency heard of the tape... they immediately went to the\r\nsite, but the execution tape was nowhere to be found. However, the video had\r\nalready passed into the hands of Western media like CNN, MSNBC, etc.\r\n\r\n8) The supposed &quot;Islamic website&quot; (whose web address was never reported in\r\nthe Western press), was later reported to be taken off line. Who took it\r\ndown? Where was the server located?\r\n\r\n9) The execution video is a mystery within a mystery, and is widely regarded\r\nas fake in the Arab world:\r\n\r\na) The CIA claims that the Jordanian, Abdul al-Zarqawi... an Al Qaeda agent\r\nworking in Iraq, is the killer who beheads Berg in the video tape. The\r\nagency's statement is that &quot;it is most likely&quot; al-Zarqawi. Arabs who have\r\nviewed the tape say that the man identified as al-Zarqawi (the man who reads\r\nthe statement and does the dirty deed), does not speak with a Jordanian\r\naccent! Arab speakers also note that the men in the video yell &quot;Allahu\r\nAkbar&quot; (God is Great) during and after the murder... but their pronunciation\r\nis off, they don't enunciate like Arabs. Some viewers of the tape even\r\ninsist that they hear pure Russian being spoken. When Berg's head is being\r\nsawed off, the men standing in the background are said to be saying in\r\nRussian, the equivalent of &quot;Do it faster!&quot; Were the killers Chechen? Were\r\nthey Russian mercenaries? Who paid them and to what end?\r\n\r\nb) Abdul al-Zarqawi has a false leg. He lost his leg in a bombing. In the\r\nvideo, the man who throws Berg to the ground and assaults him has been\r\nidentified by the CIA as al-Zarqawi... yet that figure in the film seems to\r\nhave no physical problem, and in fact is quite agile.\r\n\r\nc) The figure in the tape alleged to be al-Zarqawi by the CIA, wears a gold\r\nring. The wearing of gold jewelry by men is forbidden by Islam.\r\n\r\nd) When Berg is thrown to the floor and a knife put to his neck... he offers\r\nabsolutely no resistance. Not even an instinctive flinch. Was he drugged?\r\nHow does being drugged explain that despite having a large knife sunk into\r\nhis jugular, there is no blood spray? Berg's head was literally sawed off...\r\nyet the fountains of gushing blood associated with the decapitation of a\r\nliving human being does not appear on the video tape.\r\n\r\ne) The time stamps on the video are erratic and jump minutes... sometime\r\nhours, from scene to scene. For instance, when the al-Zarqawi figure\r\nfinishes reading his statement and pulls the knife that will decapitate\r\nBerg, the video bears a particular time stamp. There is a jump in the\r\nfilm.... an edit, and when the scene resumes to show Berg thrown to the\r\nground and about to have his head removed, the time stamp shows that the\r\nfilm has jumped ahead by 11 hours!\r\n\r\nf) Berg is video taped wearing an orange prison jumpsuit, the same style of\r\njumpsuit issued by Americans to their Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib and\r\nGuantanamo. Berg sits in a white plastic chair, the same type of chair used\r\nin Abu Ghraib prison. Berg is video taped sitting against a wall that is the\r\nsame color as the interior walls of Abu Ghraib prison. Do these facts\r\nindicate that Arab terrorists are throwing these symbols back in our faces\r\nas a way of saying... &quot;You've done this to our people, now it's your turn&quot;,\r\nor does the appearance of the orange jumpsuit, white plastic chair, and\r\nyellow walls indicate something else?\r\n\r\n10) We know that Berg, a Jewish American, was released from U.S. custody and\r\nalmost immediately disappeared. His passport bore a stamp from a recent trip\r\nto Israel... yet he was allowed by U.S. authorities to wonder around Iraq\r\nall by himself. To be walking around in Iraq with a passport stamped by the\r\nIsraeli authorities is somewhat like having a target painted on your face,\r\nchest, and backside.\r\n\r\n11) Was Berg killed by one group, and then opportunistically used by another\r\nin the making of the grisly video?\r\n\r\nSome overviews of the controversial story appear at:\r\nhttp:\/\/www.thereporteronline.com\/site\/news.cfm?newsid=11650730&BRD=2275&PAG=\r\n461&dept_id=466404&rfi=6\r\nhttp:\/\/www.tehrantimes.com\/Description.asp?Da=5\/16\/2004&Cat=2&Num=029\r\nhttp:\/\/english.pravda.ru\/mailbox\/22\/101\/397\/12790_Berg.html\r\n","author":"out now","parent_id":110470,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-05-19 13:26:55","modified":"2004-05-19 13:26:55","fileurl":""}]}