{"article":{"id":101822,"heading":"Israel Shoots Palestinians in the Head","author":"mediawatcher","created":"2004-01-30 19:26:08","modified":"2006-03-10 03:38:58","last_modified":"Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:38:58","article":"

They would have us believe that the Israeli attacks on civilian populations are justified because they are rooting

out militants. But the IDF is not viewed in the same light as an occupying army that routinely terrorizes civilians, both Muslim and Christian Palestinians.

The suicide bombing of a bus in front of a hospital, committed by a Palestinian police officer, who was also

a militant, is a horrible act of violence, but let's not

play oppression olympics here and simply judge a people

in terms of who has suffered more (10 civilians versus

8 civilians, some of which \"deserved to die\" just because

they were militants).

And that whole \"oil\" connection to Palestinian militants

that \"reason\" mentioned? Say what? Makes about as much

sense as Gines de Sepulveda, the 16th century Spanish

humanist who felt that the genocide of Native Americans

was justified (He was the Benny Morris of his age I presume).

Both the IDF-Sharon cabal and the suicide bombers suck, but

they do not exist on a level playing field. Israel is

also an imperialist presence in the middle east that

perpetuates an Anglo-influenced white supremacy in the region. Most Arabs do not wish to drive the Jews into the

see, and yet militant Israelis hold onto to this idea

like as if it was their dick.

Get a clue ya'll and don't be so quick to blame the dark

people.

Benny get a brain. Reason, your ideology was already tired

in the 16th century.

Peace,



<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Funny how when Palestinians are killed, some IMC trolls feel remorse and have doubts about the role of the Israeli government and Sharon in the occupied territories. But when Palestinians kill, its like "fuck'em, kill'em all." But the same \r\nspite isn't leveled at the IDF that perpetuates massacres in the Gaza Strip. A double standard, no doubt.","numcomment":9,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2004\/01\/101822.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":101824,"heading":"militant Israelis hold onto to this like their dick","article":"or ass","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2004-01-30 19:48:32","modified":"2006-03-10 03:41:10","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/01\/hold_on_tight.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2004\/01\/hold_on_tight.jpg"}},{"id":101856,"heading":"Here's soem propaganda for Hex:","article":"Here's video of the aftermath of the bus bombing today. It's graphic. Lots of blood and shredded bodies, as you would expect from a suicide bombing.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/switch3.castup.net\/cunet\/gm.asp?format=wm&s=C9CE3CEBD341410FACBEFAABD8F66FE0&ci=22958&ak=null&ClipMediaID=28655\r\n\r\nThe only consolation is the bomber is currently roasting in hell. Quite a shock, I imagine, as he was expecting 72 virgins to deflower for all eternity.\r\n\r\nSucks to be him.\r\n\r\nnonanarchist","author":"j;lkhhj","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-01-31 00:04:08","modified":"2006-03-10 03:38:08","fileurl":""},{"id":101858,"heading":"only 72 ?","article":"What about Friday, Saturday or Sunday? No shit.","author":"Goddamnit!","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-01-31 00:46:11","modified":"2006-03-10 03:30:42","fileurl":""},{"id":101859,"heading":"Why do they do it?","article":"This article from the Jerusalem Post sums it up.\r\n\r\nIt's a membership site, and I know some of you would rather cut off your net access than visit an Israeli site, so I will thoughtfully post the entire article.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.jpost.com\/servlet\/Satellite?pagename=JPost\/JPArticle\/ShowFull&cid=1075263109860\r\n\r\nJan. 29, 2004\r\nAspiration, not desperation\r\nBy ITAMAR MARCUS AND BARBARA CROOK\r\n\t\r\nI always wanted to be the first woman who sacrifices her life for Allah. My joy will be complete when my body parts fly in all directions. \r\n\r\nThese are the words of female suicide terrorist Reem Reyashi, videotaped just before she killed four Israelis and herself two weeks ago in Gaza.\r\nWhat is surprising about this horrific statement is that she put a positive value on her dismemberment and death, distinct from her goal to kill others. \r\n\r\nShe was driven by her aspiration to achieve what the Palestinians call "shahada," death for Allah. She had two distinct goals: To kill and to be killed. These independent objectives, both positive in her mind, were goals greater than her obligations and emotional ties to her two children. \r\n\r\nThis aspiration to die, which contradicts the basic human instinct for survival, is at the core of the suicide terrorism fervor. Only when this death worship component is recognized as a basic tenet of Palestinian belief will it be possible to understand the challenges Israel and the world face from suicide terror. \r\n\r\nPalestinian society actively promotes the religious belief that their deity craves their deaths. Note the words of a popular music video directed at children, broadcast hundreds of times on PA TV, which depicts the earth thirsting for the blood of children: "How sweet is the fragrance of the shahids, how sweet is the scent of the earth, its thirst quenched by the gush of blood, flowing from the youthful body." \r\n\r\nThis conviction that the deity thirsts for or craves human death as tribute and sacrifice has its roots in ancient beliefs. \r\n\r\nThe Bible cites ancient cultures of the Land of Israel: "Their sons and their daughters they sacrifice to their Gods" [Deut: 12]. Even the Israelites were drawn to it: "And they built altars to give their sons and daughters to Molech which God did not command nor consider this abomination [Jeremiah: 32]."\r\nAs recently as 500 years ago, South American tribes used to leave children to die on mountain tops as presents to their gods. The common denominator driving human sacrifice cults was the belief that the deity craved the death of innocents. \r\n\r\nThis is precisely the belief that the leaders of Palestinian society are inculcating in their people. Moreover, Palestinians have been taught on PA TV by their religious leaders that they are born for the very purpose of dying for Allah: "The believer was created to know his Lord and to uphold Islam to be a shahid, or intend to be a shahid. If the Muslim does not aspire to shahada, he will die as in the jahiliya [pre-Islam faith]. If we truthfully request it of Allah, He will grant us its rewards even if we die in bed." \r\n\r\nTo further encourage this self-annihilation, Palestinians are taught that dying for the deity is rewarded: "All his sins are forgiven from the first gush of blood; he is exempted from the torments of the grave (Judgment)... he marries 72 Dark-Eyed [Virgins or Maidens of Paradise]... on his head is placed a crown of honor, one stone of which is worth more than all there is in this world." \r\n\r\nEVEN CHILDREN are not spared the indoctrination that the deity wants their deaths. A telling example is the story of 14-year-old Faras Ouda, a boy elevated to heroism by the Palestinian leadership. \r\n\r\nYasser Arafat regularly singles out Ouda as a role model for children, addressing children on TV once as "peers, friends, brothers and sisters of Faras Ouda," another time telling them "This generation represented by your colleague, the hero Shahid, Faras Ouda!" Yet another time he said, "We are saluting to the spirit of our hero Shahid Faras Ouda, Faras Ouda, Faras Ouda!" \r\n\r\nWhat was Faras Ouda's great accomplishment that Arafat elevated him to archetypical role model? The boy's goal in life was to die for the deity, as reported in the PA daily Al-Hayat Al Jadida: "On the day of his death Faras Ouda left his home with a slingshot, after having made himself a wreath decorated with photos of himself and having written on it 'The Brave Shahid Faras Ouda.'\r\nFaras Ouda wanted to die for the deity, achieved it, and thus became Arafat's hero. \r\n\r\nPalestinian mothers have been taught to aspire to death for Allah for their children. A mother explained recently on PA TV why she expressed sounds of joy upon hearing of her son's death: "A mother makes sounds of joy because she wants him to reach shahada. He became a shahid for Allah Almighty. I wanted the best for him; this is the best for [my son] Shaadi." \r\n\r\nPA ideology rejects the values that other societies hold supreme. Here is Issam Sissalem on PA TV: "We are not afraid to die and do not love life." \r\n\r\nPalestinian children have learned to see dying for the deity as their goal in life. In a chilling talk show interview on PA TV, two 11-year-old girls explain cheerfully and eloquently what they and their young friends desire: \r\n\r\nWalla: Shahada is very, very beautiful. Everyone aspires to shahada. What could be better than going to paradise? \r\n\r\nHost: What is better, peace and full rights for the Palestinian people or shahada?\r\nWalla: Shahada. \r\n\r\nYussra: Of course shahada is sweet. We don't want this world, we want the Afterlife. We benefit not from this life but from the Afterlife... Every Palestinian child aged, say 12, says "Oh Lord, I would like to become a shahid." \r\n\r\nPublic opinion polls indicate that Yussra and Walla represent an overwhelming majority of Palestinian children who embrace this belief. According to three different polls, 70 to 80 percent of Palestinian children aspire to shahada.\r\nIn the ancient world, there was widespread belief that the deity wanted humans to die as the ultimate form of worship. People gave their children to the deity of Molech and the Baal. This ancient belief has now returned to plague the world. \r\n\r\nThe world had assumed that the Palestinian suicide terrorist was facing a dilemma of having to choose between the value of killing Jews and the value of life. Clearly, this is false. \r\n\r\nKilling Jews is one "value." Death for deity is itself a value greater than life. Seeking shahada is not desperation but aspiration. As the mother explained her joy after her son's death: "I wanted the best for him." \r\n\r\nMarcus is director of Palestinian Media Watch. Crook, a writer and university lecturer based in Ottawa, Canada, is PMW's North American representative.\r\n\r\n*************\r\n\r\nThey're not raising children. They're raising munitions.\r\n\r\nnonanarchist","author":"';lkljlkj","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-01-31 00:48:55","modified":"2006-03-10 03:33:44","fileurl":""},{"id":101860,"heading":"Interesting conference in Madrid","article":"Human Rights Groups were criticised for condoning certain acts of terrorism.","author":"Barney","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-01-31 00:55:11","modified":"2006-03-10 03:39:28","fileurl":""},{"id":101880,"heading":"Money quote:","article":"David Trimble, winner of the 1998 Nobel Peace Prize and leader of the Ulster Unionist Party in Northern Ireland, also said he believed that human rights organizations did not help matters.\r\n\r\n"One of the great curses of this world is the human rights industry. They justify terrorist acts and end up being complicit in the murder of innocent victims," Trimble said.\r\n\r\n**************\r\n\r\nI think Amnesty International fits that description.\r\n\r\nnonanarchist","author":";lkl;khl;kh","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-01-31 01:55:06","modified":"2006-03-10 03:37:58","fileurl":""},{"id":101979,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Fuck Ulster and Fuck Fido.","author":"KPC","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-02-01 02:08:45","modified":"2006-03-10 03:30:53","fileurl":""},{"id":102006,"heading":"Oooh, Chicken Boy!","article":"You really got me there! \r\n\r\nSuch wit! Such insightful reasoning! Such clear and compelling commentary!\r\n\r\nSuch a dork!\r\n\r\nnonanarchist","author":"l;kjl;khjh","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-02-01 14:25:35","modified":"2006-03-10 03:36:16","fileurl":""},{"id":102672,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Fido: "dork"\r\n\r\nWhaddaya, a five year old? \r\n\r\nGeez, the country is in trouble with idjuts like you guarding our flanks....no wonder we are losing the war in Iraq....\r\n\r\n"dork".....how DEVASTATING!","author":"KPC","parent_id":101822,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-02-10 17:15:46","modified":"2006-03-10 03:33:54","fileurl":""}]}