{"article":{"id":98879,"heading":"With us or againts us.","author":"Sheepdog","created":"2003-12-29 21:46:46","modified":"2003-12-31 09:50:14","last_modified":"Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:50:14","article":"<p>They believe that they are separate from us and being able to control others for their own benefit, power, is the true measure of humanity.  Power for such blythe self absorption one shudders at their end game and the fate of humanity. We see their influence into foreign policy which creates horrors and evil and offers more horror and evil to control or deal with the old ones turned against us.  We have spent trillions on carrier groups and ultra fighters ( to out run our previous war technology ) and weapons systems we pray will never be used.  Part of the fear to hold over our heads. <br>  <br> Some of these families are american. <br>  <br>   Calling them American patriots, however is a cruel lie as they connive a government to finance a gutting of our manufacturing base over the borders, waging unpopular bloody but highly profitable wars and practicing malicious mischief over the world by our taxes.   <br>  <br> Most of the people I've met share this view.   Owning the media helps but the transparency of the corruption and conflict of interests is sickening even with the public mind being fascinated by a lockstep distraction campaign.  Power is not patriotism.   <br><br> The crunch and the whip of their influence is ever present in a constricting jacket of state authority and the implied or practiced awful reality of  carnage or torture practiced against any of us at their whim, constitution or not.   We see the police morph into a military occupation replete with armor against the enemy. <br>  <br> That's me for sure and a lot of you folks as well.  <br>  <br> When we the people seek peace and justice against oppressive criminal extortion and organize to provide counter measures,  beginning with non violent demonstrations (rabble) to gain or attain some dignity or security from the effects of this small collective of criminal families,  this makes us the enemy upon which the authority decides if they can ignore or defuse or contain the demonstrations (rabble) using available levels of force ignoring the laws that apply to us and not to royal families.  After all we are not in the proper group  to avoid these consequences of greed and cold soulless disregard.  These individuals can violate the spirit and the letter of the law and dance away  Also we are not in the real reins of power and we know it, our 'betters' open and close the gates to our divided and distracted group of farmstock.  Not like the elite families who are clear on one principle of harvest.   Families that are rarely called to to account for their crimes and the timid compromised legal machinery finds them fast, very hard targets to hit, sometimes being able to nail a few lieutenants upon which occurrences, the perp is usually in some friendly non extraditable country.  These laws that are on the books is as everyone knows well inside themselves, applies only to their own lower, less elevated height. Out here in the fields, we are the enemy.<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"These criminal pigs make me wonder at the end game they have in store for us and the fate of humanity upon this garden.  We know where the real reins of power to our land lead and the facade of a democracy is becoming a sick sham even to the majority.  It's royal rule by force and decree.  Not common law","numcomment":17,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/12\/98879.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":98887,"heading":"great energy","article":"stay safe and strong","author":"builder123","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 03:29:49","modified":"2003-12-30 03:29:49","fileurl":""},{"id":98894,"heading":"for or agin","article":"Good rant, Sheepdog. Meanwhile, the &quot;liberal media&quot; (TM) says that over 60% of our fellow citizens now give Emperor Smirk a thumbs up, and the twit has better than $100 million corporate bucks ready to spend on ads during the primary season alone. Of course, the smoke and mirrors economy could utterly collapse before November, but the Bushie bastards could get around that by clobbering us with another &quot;terrorist&quot; attack, declaring martial law, and blaming all of it on Osama and the evil Saddam loyalists. Obviously, at that point, the Pentagon budget would have to be jacked up to a trillion a year, which would be achieved by eliminating all public services, schools, etc. No doubt most of our astute fellow citizens, polled in the tents and dumpsters they'd be living in, would continue to give President for Life Smirk a big thumbs up, and declare their undying hatred of the subhuman Muslims that destroyed America &quot;because they hated our freedom.&quot; Farmstock is the right term. ","author":"SkullnBonz","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 11:43:15","modified":"2003-12-30 11:43:15","fileurl":""},{"id":98895,"heading":"I am not afraid","article":"I do not fear my Government.\r\n\r\nNo leader of mine has ever tried to silence me. No ruler I've had has tried to gas me, or stick me in an oven. No baron has made me kiss his feet nor attempted to decapitate me. No tyrant has ever tried to bury me in a potter's grave or shove me off a cliff. \r\n\r\nI feel as free as any one man could wish to feel. I feel more free than any man from my history books could have felt. I feel so free that in fact, I sometimes feel guilt and shame that I live so well while others suffer. This is my curse.\r\n\r\nAnd the supposed tools of fear, the multibillion dollar nuclear powered aero-toting bazooka blasting hover stealth  fighter thing-a-ma-jiggies, with stuff that go boom...\r\n\r\nwell those make me feel safer. \r\n\r\nFor the only ones that want to kill me are those that are not my chosen monarchs. \r\n\r\nThose evil ones want to fly my jets into the majestic buildings of my cities, bomb my schools and churches, slaughter my children and rape my sisters.\r\n\r\nThose true deplorable misfits have reigned terror upon mankind since before the begining of written history,  and they continue to do so, where they can.\r\n\r\nBut here, in my denizen, they cannot.\r\n\r\nAnd for this, they would see me dead.\r\n\r\nBut I am not afraid.","author":"American Denizen","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 13:44:49","modified":"2003-12-30 13:44:49","fileurl":""},{"id":98903,"heading":"$ well spent","article":"multibillion dollar nuclear powered aero-toting bazooka blasting hover stealth fighter thing-a-ma-jiggies, with stuff that go boom...................................","author":"$ Dady $","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 17:06:18","modified":"2003-12-30 17:06:18","fileurl":""},{"id":98904,"heading":"But I am not afraid","article":"yes, you are afraid.  I disagree with you.  You expenditures are enormous and with a less swash buckling approach to getting always more wealthy or keeping from others things you have acquired by force, you might find it a better world.  Even for you.  \r\nBut unless or because of some undefinable superhuman facet to having great wealth, you poor insane little worms actually believe that you are better than us.\r\nBut I am only a dog.\r\n","author":" Sheepdog","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 17:21:53","modified":"2003-12-30 17:21:53","fileurl":""},{"id":98905,"heading":"Money well spent. I could not agree more.","article":"Those things keep me free. \r\n\r\nThey are symbols of strength and power, and they scare the hell out of anyone ends up on the receiving end.\r\n\r\nThe lesson is that it is better to be my friend, than it is to be my enemy.","author":"American","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 17:23:47","modified":"2003-12-30 17:23:47","fileurl":""},{"id":98906,"heading":"And I agree with you too, sheepdog.","article":"I am afraid.\r\n\r\nAfraid of what the real culprits of this Earth are capable of. Afraid of torture and maiming and inhumanity. Afraid of those ovens and pits and cliffs.\r\n\r\nAfraid, not for me,but for mine and but for you and yours.\r\n\r\nAnd ready to give all I have: money, life, my soul ... to keep those culprits away.\r\n\r\nBut I won't ever give up my determination, self-respect, nor pride.\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"American","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 17:32:25","modified":"2003-12-30 17:32:25","fileurl":""},{"id":98908,"heading":"It is better to be wealthy...","article":"an to keep your possessions by force, than to be plundered, pillaged, pilfered and destitute.","author":"Confucius","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 17:41:23","modified":"2003-12-30 17:41:23","fileurl":""},{"id":98912,"heading":" to be plundered, pillaged, pilfered and destitute.","article":"you see the insanity?\r\nTo allow the rest of humanity to live in peace, it means the above frothing rant of pure fear.\r\nListen up,  now or later, and the longer the wait the harder the fall.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 17:51:13","modified":"2003-12-30 17:51:13","fileurl":""},{"id":98913,"heading":"Hey Sheepdog, what the hell does this mean?","article":"&quot; with a less swash buckling approach to getting always more wealthy or keeping from others things you have acquired by force, you might find it a better world.&quot;\r\n\r\nWhat the hell's that supposed to mean? Should we just lay down our guns and open the gates at Fort Knox? Is this your philosophy? I assume from this that you just let whomever wants raid your fridge in the middle of the night? I mean, seriously, are you on the juice this early in the morning? I've seen you yap 'bout how you're armed to the teeth, just waiting for your enemies to make a move, and then you come up with something as inane as this?????\r\n\r\nGotta do better buck-o...\r\n\r\n","author":"Max","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 17:52:42","modified":"2003-12-30 17:52:42","fileurl":""},{"id":98914,"heading":"&quot;isten up, now or later, and the longer the wait the harder the fall.&quot;","article":"Tick tock tick tock tick tock...\r\n\r\nsomething tells me you revolutionaries are gonna stand me up ... again.","author":"Stan","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 17:55:13","modified":"2003-12-30 17:55:13","fileurl":""},{"id":98916,"heading":"gather round, little weasels.....","article":"Max, I can't help you.  You are WAY too dim although you believe otherwise, too ever understand anything.\r\nThat taken care of, in response to the tick tock, the pressures the enemy is now applying to the general population in the form of brutality and repression against popular will can only fuse groups that are still at this time fractionalized.  Time and history are againts you and beyond your myopic understanding.  I just morn at the pain and death and loss this road leads towards. We could do better, but your masters would have to justify their existance as equals.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 18:08:41","modified":"2003-12-30 18:08:41","fileurl":""},{"id":98917,"heading":"&quot;WAY too dim&quot;","article":"Heh heh heh heh heh ... you're just too much, Sheep. That's why I like you man, you always know how to keep me in stitches.\r\n\r\nBut it was an honest question I think. \r\n\r\nAnd no need to be all nefarious and ambiguous for our good friend tick tock and the rest of indymedia. Tell them what you really think, Mr. Shackleford. Be brave Rusty. Don't be so timid. The boogyman ain't gonna get ya. Here, allow me to offer my hand and elbow as a gesture of good will. Place your hand directly on the elbow though, or it won't work...","author":"Max","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 18:20:19","modified":"2003-12-30 18:20:19","fileurl":""},{"id":98922,"heading":"keep me out of this","article":"...but Sheepdog is so popular.....","author":"Rusty Shackleford","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 18:48:46","modified":"2003-12-30 18:48:46","fileurl":""},{"id":98926,"heading":"&quot;popular&quot;","article":"Nutcases are interesting specimens. It's intriguing to come to indymedia and poke them with sticks and get them all frazzled.\r\n\r\nSheepster is our resident loony. Visit his website:\r\n\r\nwww.clownpoop.fart\r\n\r\n(he waited a little bit late in the dot com boom to reserve a domain name, thus all the good ones were taken)","author":"stick-poker","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 19:01:02","modified":"2003-12-30 19:01:02","fileurl":""},{"id":98928,"heading":"On second thought sheepdog, I'm insulted.","article":"I mean here you are, day after day, posting your whimsical tripe and I'm probably the only one around here that actually reads it. I've got to be the only one around here that actually attempts to deciper it and offer honest critique on your deluded banter. I'm certainly not one of the buffoons feigning interest and patting you on the back, while chortling at my monitor regarding your obvious dementia. Those guys are not your friends. You know I'm the only one you could ever really count on in a pinch, sheepy old bud. Me and you go way, way back. Way way way back.\r\n\r\nAnd all you can do is brush me off and call me stupid! How uncordial. How rude.\r\n\r\nYou should be thanking me for taking an interest.\r\n\r\nIngrate.","author":"Max","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-12-30 19:29:13","modified":"2003-12-30 19:29:13","fileurl":""},{"id":98979,"heading":"same list of right wing chickenhawks respond","article":"FUCK THE SAME GROUP OF MORONS ON EVERY POST.\r\n\r\nYOU'RE NOT CHANGING ANYONES MINDS CUMSICKLES.\r\n\r\nMAX,SHEEPDOG,FRESCA,NONANARCHIST\r\n\r\nSO PREDICTABLE!\r\n\r\nEXCELLENT ARTICLE BY THE WAY. THANKS!","author":"leftovermoldypizzacheese","parent_id":98879,"mime_type":"image\/gif","created":"2003-12-31 09:50:14","modified":"2005-08-15 01:50:37","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/12\/chickenhawkdown.gifvaqr0u.gif","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/12\/chickenhawkdown.gifvaqr0u.gif"}}]}