{"article":{"id":93989,"heading":"Police Raid School With Guns Drawn","author":"NYRA","created":"2003-11-14 04:50:47","modified":"2005-08-15 01:47:41","last_modified":"Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:47:41","article":"

A dozen officers in Goose Creek, South Carolina stormed through the halls of

Stratford High School with guns drawn, forcing 107 students to lay on the

floor and submit to a drug dog search. Students were commanded to get on their

knees with their hands behind their head, students who did not respond quick

enough were put into handcuffs. One student said, \"I thought one of the guns was

going to go off and shoot or kill somebody, so I just got down to my knees and

covered my head for protection.\"

The scene, which looks more like Iraq than a high school, was captured by the

school surveillance cameras and then broadcast by the media. The raid was an

attempt to find marijuana, but no drugs were found. One student said: \"They

would go put a gun up to them and push them against the wall and they would like

take their bookbags.\"

Parents were outraged at the raid, but principal George McCrackin said he

would “utilize whatever forces that I deem necessary” to keep drugs out of the

school. State police are now investigating the incident.

Stratford High School Principal George McCrackin

GeorgeMcCrackin@Berkeley.k12.sc.us<\/a>

Goose Creek, SC Chief of Police Harvey Becker

hbecker@cityofgoosecreek.com<\/a>

Goose Creek, SC Assistant Chief of Police Tracy \"Ski\" Tokarsky

dtokarsky@cityofgoosecreek.com<\/a>

<\/p>\n","contact":"nyrausa@aol.com","link":"www.youthrights.org","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","summary":"A dozen officers in Goose Creek, South Carolina stormed through the halls of \r\nStratford High School with guns drawn, forcing 107 students to lay on the \r\nfloor and submit to a drug dog search. Students were commanded to get on their \r\nknees with their hands behind their head, students who did not respond quick \r\nenough were put into handcuffs. ","numcomment":66,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2003\/11\/stratfordraid.jpg","filesize":"3.7 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2003\/11\/93989.php","image":{"original":"\/uploads\/2003\/11\/stratfordraid.jpg","small":"\/uploads\/2003\/11\/stratfordraid.jpgthumb.jpg"}},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":94000,"heading":"Fascism is here","article":"Fascism is here.","author":"Blue key","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 12:45:10","modified":"2003-11-14 12:45:10","fileurl":""},{"id":94008,"heading":"Blue key","article":"That's not fascism, you idiot. If it were fascism\/socialism\/communism\/marxism, they would have shot the kids anyway, then shot the parents if they complained about it.\r\n\r\nThis was over the top, and heads should roll for those who approved of this. But it is in no way a refection of the system as a whole.","author":"growafrickingbrain","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 14:04:53","modified":"2003-11-14 14:04:53","fileurl":""},{"id":94014,"heading":""over the top"","article":"I agree, it was definately over the top. Drawing down on kids in a highschool, what were these cops thinking? Worst part about the whole thing is that they didn't find a thing, but they claimed that some of the bookbags had "drug residue" on them. Last time I checked, you can't get busted for "drug residue".\r\n\r\nIt should be disturbing to all of us that, in this day and age, cops feel the need to raid public schools with guns drawn, like they're taking out the taliban or attacking Saddam Hussein's headquarters.","author":"freeze","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 15:14:32","modified":"2003-11-14 15:14:32","fileurl":""},{"id":94015,"heading":"Let's Be Clear","article":"Let's be very, very, very clear. "Cops" didn't do this. A miniscule amount of cops decided to do this, not all "cops". This is not a reflection of law enforcement as a whole, but rather a reflection on the individuals who approved this, and *only* on them.","author":"lbc","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 15:29:16","modified":"2003-11-14 15:29:16","fileurl":""},{"id":94017,"heading":"That "miniscule amount"","article":"are the reason cops are becoming more and more hated in America. Cops have to do a pretty thankless job, I'll admit, for little pay. But these guys are supposed to be highly trained, intelligent, responsible. Personally, I'm getting pretty sick of the cops being in the news all the time for being fucking stupid. Cops punching 16 year old kids in hand-cuffs and smacking heads down on the back of police cruisers, cops drawing down on teens in high schools, it's one thing after the other with the cops.\r\n\r\nPower corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Give them and inch and they think they're a ruler.\r\n\r\nIf criminals have to deal with a "three strikes" rule, then cops should get a "one strike" rule. One significant screw up and you're fired. No exceptions. The cops that pulled out the guns in that high school should be collecting unemployment right now. \r\n\r\nPERIOD.","author":"efg","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 15:46:01","modified":"2003-11-14 15:46:01","fileurl":""},{"id":94018,"heading":"Hey IBC","article":"Why can't I brandish my Browning M1911 out in public like that? In fact, a school is government porperty, so even if I have a permit to carry, it's still a felony for me to carry my handgun onto a school's grounds. But hey, these cops can do it.\r\n\r\nIt's illegal for me to brandish a firearm, even though I'm protected and have the RIGHT to own one, under the second ammendment, but cops can wave theirs around like the outlaw Josey Wales.","author":"Larry Meadows","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 15:54:16","modified":"2003-11-14 15:54:16","fileurl":""},{"id":94019,"heading":"laergrfy","article":"Larry, grow up. You can't do it for the same reason I can't. Do you see me complaining that I can't carry my gun on school property? No. There's a reason the average citizen doesn't carry a gun on his hip and law enforcement does. If you can't figure that out,.............\r\n\r\nefg, grow up. Criminals should have a 3 strike rule. And if found guilty, the officers responsible should receive the correct repremand, whatever that may be on a case by case basis. I disagree that cops are being "more and more hated". Maybe certain groups dislike law enforcement or people with certain political agendas or leanings, but those type of people are not worth consideration and therefore not given any. If the shoe fits,.............\r\n\r\nPeople like you two don't get to decide. It is obvious by your remarks you aren't capable of making rational decisions.\r\n\r\n","author":"laref","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 16:28:05","modified":"2003-11-14 16:28:05","fileurl":""},{"id":94021,"heading":"Everybody needs to grow up but laref","article":"laref says everybody needs to grow up, except him. That ought to tell you something about laref.\r\n\r\n"There's a reason the average citizen doesn't carry a gun on his hip and law enforcement does. If you can't figure that out,............. "\r\n\r\nActually no, I can't figure that out. Why don't you explain it? What are you saying? That the average citizen is irresponsible and shouldn't be allowed to have the right to keep and bear arms? But the cops are responsible and should? I'd beg to differ...\r\n\r\nMy personal opinion is that if we all had a gun on our hip, we might all be a little nicer and more considerate to one another.\r\n\r\nBut the average citizen is represented in that photo above. And the average cop too.\r\n\r\nBut we shouldn't be allowed to strap on a gun!\r\n\r\nLaref, you need to grow up buddy. And while you're at it, you need to wake up too!","author":"Bob Randolph","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 16:54:34","modified":"2003-11-14 16:54:34","fileurl":""},{"id":94023,"heading":"Bob","article":"Oh yeah, let's all be like the wild west and wear guns around and everyone will be so much safer. You fucking fascists are all the same.","author":"(A)","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 16:59:03","modified":"2003-11-14 16:59:03","fileurl":""},{"id":94026,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"You need to look again, putz. The Fascist is the guy with his .45 to the back of that kids head.","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:08:24","modified":"2003-11-14 17:08:24","fileurl":""},{"id":94027,"heading":"Exactly KPC!","article":"Take a good look at that guys haircut. Dude thinks he's a Marine in Tekrit and all those kids are Ba'athists!","author":"jarhead","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:10:57","modified":"2003-11-14 17:10:57","fileurl":""},{"id":94028,"heading":"Actually no, I can't figure that out.","article":"What does it say about me that I can't figure it out? It points directly to just how stupid I am.\r\n\r\nAnd then instead of just asking what he means, I then go on to try and guess what he meant. Like I got a clue aout anything. How stupid is that!\r\n\r\nI need to grow up. And while I'm at it, I need to wake up too!","author":"Bob Randolph","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:11:22","modified":"2003-11-14 17:11:22","fileurl":""},{"id":94029,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Bob Randolph, compared to me, you only appear to be stupid. I continually open my mouth and remove all doubt.","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:13:05","modified":"2003-11-14 17:13:05","fileurl":""},{"id":94033,"heading":"The trolls don't like this one.","article":"The paid toadys and wingnut shills are doing their best to spam this thread into oblivion. Why do you suppose that is?","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:16:48","modified":"2003-11-14 17:16:48","fileurl":""},{"id":94039,"heading":"to the above poster","article":"The "trolls" rightly pointed out that this act was unacceptable, that this in no way represents law enforcement as a whole, and those who approved of such action should be rightly punished. Those who would deny such is true are not not only foolish but worthy of ridicule. Do you want to be next? Some people seem to have a problem being corrected into understanding the situation the way it should be understood and need an attitude adjustment by whatever means possible.","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:24:57","modified":"2003-11-14 17:24:57","fileurl":""},{"id":94041,"heading":""in no way represents law enforcement"","article":"I suppose that gentleman, the one with the hollow point protection round burning a hole in the back of that childs lower medulla oblongata, is really just a member of the local Women's League? Perhaps he's mistakenly thought this was a Toastmaster's convention or perhaps an NRA meeting? Oh that's right, the NRA doesn't allow it's members to bring their guns to meetings, so it couldn't have been that. And that doesn't explain the uniform. Perhaps he's a Boyscout that just refuses to grow up?","author":"Guffaw","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:31:01","modified":"2003-11-14 17:31:01","fileurl":""},{"id":94043,"heading":""in no way represents law enforcement"","article":"They should arrest that bastard for impersonating a police officer then!","author":"Chortle","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:32:25","modified":"2003-11-14 17:32:25","fileurl":""},{"id":94044,"heading":""attitude adjustment by whatever means possible."","article":"The trolls always resort to violence and death threats when they are losing the debate. It's the last refuge of scoundrels.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:35:23","modified":"2003-11-14 17:35:23","fileurl":""},{"id":94045,"heading":""in no way represents law enforcement"","article":""in no way represents law enforcement AS A WHOLE"\r\n\r\nYou see, stupidass, you gotta take the statement as a whole, and not cut out what you wanna hear. OK Guffaw a\/k\/a Maureen Dowd, Jr?? Are you able to understand that?\r\n\r\nThe whippings of the ignorant can continue with the next stupid statement from some wingnut leiberal\/anarchsit any time now.\r\n\r\n","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:36:37","modified":"2003-11-14 17:36:37","fileurl":""},{"id":94046,"heading":"ml","article":"I've never lost a debate here. I never even seen a right-winger lose a debate on this site and I've been here much longer than you.\r\n\r\nAnd I threatened no one's life, you moron.","author":" trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:38:50","modified":"2003-11-14 17:38:50","fileurl":""},{"id":94047,"heading":""AS A WHOLE"","article":"Oh. I see. One cop brandishing a firearm and pointing it at the back of a child's head is not representitive of law enforcement "AS A WHOLE". I see. Got it.\r\n\r\nBut there were four gun waving cops in that raid. Not just one. And there were FOURTEEN COPS there total. How come the other TEN COPS didn't say, "Hey, Rambo, put that gun away! Have you gone crazy??"\r\n\r\nAnd what about the shift team leader, who OBVIOUSLY GAVE THEM THE GO-AHEAD to unholster their guns in a highschool?\r\n\r\nAre we getting closer to being more representitive of law enforcement "AS A WHOLE" now?\r\n","author":"The Giggler","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:43:10","modified":"2003-11-14 17:43:10","fileurl":""},{"id":94048,"heading":"giggler","article":"No, you're not.\r\n\r\nExplain to me how the actions of these individuals in any way reflect on the police department in Midland, Michigan. How about Ogden, Utah? How about Visalia, California?\r\n\r\nDid any of the police officers in any of these other cities have anything to do with what happened in GC, SC? can you put police officers on trial in Wyoming because of what happened in GC, SC? or was it the responsibility of those who were involved?\r\n\r\nSee, you can't indict the 'WHOLE' for something they had nothing to do with. Figured it out yet?\r\n\r\nI'm doing this with half my brain tied behind my back just to make it fair. Some of you out there, screw on your thinking caps before you speak, will ya?","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 17:50:15","modified":"2003-11-14 17:50:15","fileurl":""},{"id":94050,"heading":"Liberal\/Anarchist Non-Think","article":"Let's get this right from the liberal\/anarchist point of view:\r\n\r\nCops from Goose Creek, SC who did this represent all police officers worldwide "AS A WHOLE".\r\n\r\nA corporate CEO who swindles from his company and takes from his stockholders represents all CEO's of all corporations "AS A WHOLE".\r\n\r\nA basketball player who rapes a girl represents all basketball players around the world "AS A WHOLE.'\r\n\r\nA driver of a Ford Mustang who plows into and kills a group of people going 100 mph represents all Ford Mustang owners "AS A WHOLE".\r\n\r\nYou frickin' idiots are a laugh.\r\n","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:00:23","modified":"2003-11-14 18:00:23","fileurl":""},{"id":94051,"heading":"Here trolls:","article":"http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=police+violence\r\n\r\n\r\nRead up!","author":"snort","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:02:20","modified":"2003-11-14 18:02:20","fileurl":""},{"id":94053,"heading":"^","article":"You've proved nothing. Because there are a few bad apples doesn't make the whole apple cart rotton, nor is it a reason to do away with law enforcement.","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:04:38","modified":"2003-11-14 18:04:38","fileurl":""},{"id":94056,"heading":""few bad apples"","article":"You're a fast reader! Actually, I don't think you read anything at all.\r\n\r\nNo wonder you're so stupid.","author":"jape","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:08:05","modified":"2003-11-14 18:08:05","fileurl":""},{"id":94058,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"OK...OK...Break it up...move along. Please do not block the corridors. Nothing to see here, just standard police work...er...I mean 'aberrative' police work...no trend...just bad apples...hardly ever happens...nope...system's good, no problems...we're winning the War on Drugs...\r\n\r\n...move along, please...\r\n\r\n","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:14:58","modified":"2003-11-14 18:14:58","fileurl":""},{"id":94059,"heading":"You're a fast reader! Actually, I don't think you read anything at all.","article":"It a google search. No one is denying that police have overstepped their boundries before. It doesn't mean that all police are bad or that this reflects on all police as a whole. You have yet to prove anything.","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:17:24","modified":"2003-11-14 18:17:24","fileurl":""},{"id":94063,"heading":""Haven't proved anything"","article":"Right! I just can't figure out why the little bastards won't get the message! It appears the little high school brats are a bit slow on the uptake. The message is simple.\r\n\r\nIF YOU DO DRUGS, WE WILL KILL YOU!","author":"blind as a bat","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:26:12","modified":"2003-11-14 18:26:12","fileurl":""},{"id":94067,"heading":"blind as a bat","article":"Yes, you are blind as a bar.\r\n\r\nYou must prove that the actions of the police in Goose Creek, SC are the responsibility of the police in Midland, Michigan.\r\n\r\nGo for it!","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:33:22","modified":"2003-11-14 18:33:22","fileurl":""},{"id":94079,"heading":""Yes, you are blind as a bar."","article":"I go to the bar down the street pretty much every day, and nobody there is blind. Though their vision may be a little hazy when they get ready to leave...","author":"drunkard","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:54:56","modified":"2003-11-14 18:54:56","fileurl":""},{"id":94082,"heading":"trolls, you are a buffoon.","article":""You must prove that the actions of the police in Goose Creek, SC are the responsibility of the police in Midland, Michigan."\r\n\r\nWhat the hell does that have to do with cops threatening to kill children?","author":"Rational Normal Person","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 18:58:39","modified":"2003-11-14 18:58:39","fileurl":""},{"id":94086,"heading":"RNP","article":"This.\r\n\r\n"in no way represents law enforcement AS A WHOLE" \r\n\r\nThe libs wanna say this incident reflects on police as a whole. The premise I'm defending says that this incident only reflects on those who were involved. I'm asking for them to prove their point. Can you?","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 19:02:30","modified":"2003-11-14 19:02:30","fileurl":""},{"id":94096,"heading":"nessie imp","article":"At least TRY and be a better nessie imp.","author":"ha","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 19:14:35","modified":"2003-11-14 19:14:35","fileurl":""},{"id":94098,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":""The premise I'm defending says that this incident only reflects on those who were involved."\r\n\r\nWrong. In dealing with problems of this sort, it is ridiculous to assume it is isolated. If there was an atmosphere that would not tolerate such activity, it wouldn't have happened. Obviously, from the cops to the principal, they thought their actions were in line with what is considered acceptable. Such an atmoshphere exists throughout the country, in case you haven't been paying attention, and has been since Reagan Drug War was started.\r\n\r\nThe problem is systematic...the War on Drugs wasn't started by a police chief and principal in SC...deny it all you want, but for those of us with real life experience, it is obvious. Try to get out of the house once in a while, if your mom will let you.\r\n\r\n...that was too easy....","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 19:19:43","modified":"2003-11-14 19:19:43","fileurl":""},{"id":94101,"heading":"KPC strikes out.....again","article":"Delusional fantasies are not permitted in a reasonable discussion. That automatically precludes you from ever being involved in any.\r\n\r\n>>"The premise I'm defending says that this incident only reflects on those who were involved."<< \r\n\r\n>Wrong.<\r\n\r\n\r\nSo then, let's put police in Wyoming on trial from what police in Goose Creek, SC did. KPC says it's not isolated, so that means they're all guilty.\r\n\r\n.....fucking dildobreath.........","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 19:26:11","modified":"2003-11-14 19:26:11","fileurl":""},{"id":94104,"heading":"nesimp","article":"Not the way it works, I can't be held responsible for someone elses crimes. Just like Alonzo Mourning can't be held responsible for Kobe Bryant. Just like Mom & Pop, Inc. can't be held responsible for Enron. Just like SF-IMC can't be held responsible for Andrew McCrae.","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 19:34:16","modified":"2003-11-14 19:34:16","fileurl":""},{"id":94108,"heading":"not me","article":" I did not post the comments that appeared above on this thread under my name.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 19:49:17","modified":"2003-11-14 19:49:17","fileurl":""},{"id":94110,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":""KPC says it's not isolated, so that means they're all guilty."\r\n\r\nWow...I knew Republican was prone to lies and huge, gapped leaps in logic...but that takes the cake.\r\n\r\nNever said that. I said it revealed a systematic problem. To deny it would be idiocy....but, hey, deny away...you're obviously qualified.\r\n\r\nNow, what other lies to you have for us today?","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 19:57:29","modified":"2003-11-14 19:57:29","fileurl":""},{"id":94126,"heading":"Yes. They tried that at Nuremburg","article":"But, they WERE guilty. Alonzo Mourning is not guiltly for what Kobe Bryant did, except in your world.","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 21:08:20","modified":"2003-11-14 21:08:20","fileurl":""},{"id":94127,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"OK then, it was isolated. There's no way I can deny that and not look any more stupid than I am.","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 21:12:14","modified":"2003-11-14 21:12:14","fileurl":""},{"id":94132,"heading":"nesimp","article":"Let me guess, the whole world needs to rise up in one co-ordinated effort all at the same time and overthrown those who have us under their jack-boots.\r\n\r\nPass the bong, dude!","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 21:19:33","modified":"2003-11-14 21:19:33","fileurl":""},{"id":94133,"heading":"You just don't get it, do you trolls?","article":"You see police brutality nearly every day on the news, in the papers, on the internet, etc.\r\n\r\nBut yet you still deny it.\r\n\r\nWith all this denial, you'd think we lived in Egypt.","author":"fuzzbuster","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 21:21:42","modified":"2003-11-14 21:21:42","fileurl":""},{"id":94135,"heading":"fb","article":"I didn't deny that what took place in Goose Creek was uncalled for. But you can't hold a whole occupation responsible for the acts of a few. Otherwise, this:\r\n\r\nA corporate CEO who swindles from his company and takes from his stockholders represents all CEO's of all corporations "AS A WHOLE". \r\n\r\nA basketball player who rapes a girl represents all basketball players around the world "AS A WHOLE.' \r\n\r\nA driver of a Ford Mustang who plows into and kills a group of people going 100 mph represents all Ford Mustang owners "AS A WHOLE". \r\n\r\n\r\nDo YOU get it? The individual people involved are responsible for their own actions. You have idiots here who want to lump all people of a certain occupation under one tent. Don't work. For added proof, if these officers go to trial, see if charges are brought against them and their department, or if chages are brought on all police departments everywhere.","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 21:26:59","modified":"2003-11-14 21:26:59","fileurl":""},{"id":94138,"heading":"trolls","article":"You've been staring at that monitor too long.\r\n\r\nI don't see anyone here claiming that "all police are guilty" for this incident. What made you come to that conclusion?\r\n\r\nI agree with nessie. It's not the cops that are the enemy. It's their masters.","author":"hypnosis","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 21:43:40","modified":"2003-11-14 21:43:40","fileurl":""},{"id":94140,"heading":"hippie","article":"Read it again then. By claiming that this action is just another in a long string, they attempt to implicate all policemen.\r\n\r\nI said "in no way represents law enforcement AS A WHOLE".\r\n\r\nSomeone decided to shorten it to "in no way represents law enforcement".\r\n\r\nThere's a BIG different in those two statements.\r\n\r\nThe people responsible have to answer for what they did, not police as a whole. Why someone would agrue differently is beyond logic. But they did.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 21:56:20","modified":"2003-11-14 21:56:20","fileurl":""},{"id":94144,"heading":""There's a BIG different in those two statements."","article":"You wear a badge, you represent law enforcement. Right?\r\n\r\nWhat you're effectively arguing is that a police officer doesn't really represent anything but himself. If that were the case, nobody would listen to a damned word he had to say.\r\n\r\nKinda like you.\r\n\r\n"The people responsible have to answer for what they did, not police as a whole. Why someone would agrue differently is beyond logic. But they did."\r\n\r\nOnly in your imagination.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Not really","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 22:01:51","modified":"2003-11-14 22:01:51","fileurl":""},{"id":94145,"heading":"nr","article":""What you're effectively arguing is that a police officer doesn't really represent anything but himself."\r\n\r\nNo. What I'm am effectively saying is that the officer reepresents the law enforcement agency with which he is assigned. The LA police department is responsible for the officers in its employ, not for officers emplyed by the police department in Chicago.\r\n\r\nNow either you can figure it out, or you can't. My guess is you can't.","author":"trolls","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 22:08:28","modified":"2003-11-14 22:08:28","fileurl":""},{"id":94147,"heading":"Oh, I get it.","article":""What I'm am effectively saying is that the officer reepresents the law enforcement agency with which he is assigned."\r\n\r\nSo, in this case, only the Goose Creek police department should be disbanded.","author":"poopyhead","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 22:14:04","modified":"2003-11-14 22:14:04","fileurl":""},{"id":94149,"heading":"trolls","article":">Kinda like you. \r\n\r\n>Only in your imagination. \r\n\r\nOoooo, trolls. You're getting to them. They're bring out the big guns now. Well, big guns for a bunch of whackos.\r\n\r\nYou have almost singlehandidly helped bring out some of the best EV on this site in quite a while. All the idiots are writing you and you're effectively bitch-slapping them all the way home. Great EV! I hope you stick around, trolls. We need people like you to get the anal warts to speak up and fill us with their silliness.\r\n\r\nTo all the left-wing dumbasses (yeah, I know that's all of you), thanx for your stupidassed answers, and keep it up. You all are qualified for the EV Grand Prize.\r\n\r\nGood Luck!\r\n","author":"thanx","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 22:15:52","modified":"2003-11-14 22:15:52","fileurl":""},{"id":94150,"heading":""To all the left-wing dumbasses"","article":"Another delirious halucinating frantic cry for help goes unanswered....","author":"west wing","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 22:21:18","modified":"2003-11-14 22:21:18","fileurl":""},{"id":94154,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Witness Republican circle jerk above and have a laugh on them!\r\n\r\n...dude, you better get off the needle...it's fuckin' up your brain cells, and you obviously need all you can spare....\r\n\r\n...and wipe your chin while your at it!","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-14 22:41:01","modified":"2003-11-14 22:41:01","fileurl":""},{"id":94178,"heading":"In summary:","article":"Conservative: Some cops do bad things, and should b held accountable.\r\n\r\nLiberal\/Anarchist: Cops SUCK!\r\n\r\nConservative: No, just some. And they should be punsihed.\r\n\r\nL\/A: Cops SUCK! And they all should be SHOT!\r\n\r\nChicken Boy: I'll wrap this up with some mindless profanity, because it's easier than admitting I have no argument left.","author":"nonanarchist1906","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-15 00:13:30","modified":"2003-11-15 00:13:30","fileurl":""},{"id":94179,"heading":"Oops! Left out one:","article":"nessie: No war but class war, and similar nonsense!","author":"nonanarchist1910","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-15 00:14:54","modified":"2003-11-15 00:14:54","fileurl":""},{"id":94183,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Hey west wing, shut the fuck up. You make us liberals look even more stupid than we are.\r\n\r\nI don't know why I even go on living. I'm a waste of oxygen. I'm a liberal.","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-15 00:35:49","modified":"2003-11-15 00:35:49","fileurl":""},{"id":94185,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Why, just to torture you and your lying ilk...that's reason enough right there!","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-15 00:47:26","modified":"2003-11-15 00:47:26","fileurl":""},{"id":94190,"heading":"Torturing us?","article":"By making us laugh ourselves to death, maybe.","author":"nonanarchist1955","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-15 01:00:21","modified":"2003-11-15 01:00:21","fileurl":""},{"id":94372,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Gee, Fido...getting you to speak is an easy trick...\r\n\r\n...you are my loyal doggie!\r\n\r\n","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-15 20:43:45","modified":"2003-11-15 20:43:45","fileurl":""},{"id":94376,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"Woof!\r\n\r\nCan I get a treat now?","author":"KPC","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-15 20:46:31","modified":"2003-11-15 20:46:31","fileurl":""},{"id":94645,"heading":"citizens for police","article":" "Still, some things counted more to Crooks than money.He told ABC he wouldn't give the network the videotape unless they put Bill Maher's recently canceled "Politically Incorrect" back on television, Hanna said. A Green Party supporter who adores Ralph Nader and hates President Bush, Crooks also withheld the tape from CBS because he said it "blew the [presidential] election" by calling a winner too early." ","author":"mitchell crooks","parent_id":93989,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-17 15:02:29","modified":"2003-11-17 15:02:29","fileurl":""}]}