{"article":{"id":93238,"heading":"Students challenge employer (California State-Fullerton student paper)","author":"Sarah Maxwell (Daily Titan staff writer)","created":"2003-11-07 18:26:11","modified":"2013-11-11 00:27:28","last_modified":"Mon, 11 Nov 2013 07:27:28","article":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p>Students Against Vector Exploitation, a group made up of students across the United States and Canada, claimed they were tricked and cheated by Vector Marketing, a distributor of Cutco cutlery products. <br>  <br> The group claimed Vector used enticing yet deceptive tactics to get college students to attend interviews and sell kitchen knives.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;I needed a summer job, so I called and went in for an interview,&rdquo; said David Ferris, a sophomore at Columbia University and the group&rsquo;s cofounder. &ldquo;Up to that point, no one really explained what the job was about except that it had something to do with sales, so I was a little suspicious of the company.&rdquo;  <br>  <br> Ferris got involved with Vector during the summer of 2002. <br>  <br> Now he warns fellow students about the company&rsquo;s apparently fraudulent ways. <br>  <br> &ldquo;My suspicions were largely confirmed at the so-called interview. The whole thing was basically a sales pitch for the job, ridden with corporate propaganda and deceptive tactics designed to convince kids that it was some kind of miracle job, which it certainly is not,&rdquo; he said.  <br>  <br> Like Ferris, most students interested in the advertised opportunity go through the interviewing process only knowing the company would pay them $13 and work around their school schedules.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;They say their receptionists can&rsquo;t tell you details about the job because it takes 45 minutes to fully explain everything,&rdquo; said Chad Hesselius, Students Against Vector Exploitation press relations. &ldquo;But how long does it take to say &lsquo;it isn&rsquo;t employment, but instead it is a contract for you to call people up &ndash; starting with everybody you know &ndash; and solicit appointments, then go over to their house and sell them knives?&rsquo;&rdquo; <br>  <br> This omission of information from the receptionists give students only a little taste of what Vector&rsquo;s business is about, Hesselius said. <br>  <br> &ldquo;Why would they have to trick someone into hearing their sales pitch?&rdquo; said Scott Greene, Cal State Fullerton marketing professor. &ldquo;Wouldn&rsquo;t word-of-mouth tout the benefits of working for them?&rdquo; <br>  <br> However, Sarah Baker Andrus, director of academic programs for the company, said, &ldquo;Vector managers are responding to this concern by providing receptionists with additional training on how to respond to questions more thoroughly without risking busy signals or unanswered calls.&rdquo;  <br>  <br> She also said students interested in applying should go to the company&rsquo;s Web site.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;[People can find] basic information that provides the details for a responsible applicant who does his or her research,&rdquo; she said. <br>  <br> When using a search engine online to locate Vector, Students Against Vector Exploitation&rsquo;s Web site is among many that pop up, warning people of fraud and pending lawsuits.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;It&rsquo;s easy to throw allegations and misrepresentations anonymously behind the screen of a complaint site,&rdquo; Andrus said. &ldquo;If you examine the site carefully, you will notice that the messages only come from very few individuals.&rdquo; <br>  <br> Ferris said Vector&rsquo;s Web site looks like many other corporate sites, chalked full of information and what looks like a chance to get a good job. However, he said, looks can be deceiving. <br>  <br> &ldquo;The company&rsquo;s success at hawking overpriced knives and deceiving unsuspecting sales reps is based on putting up a front of decency, respectability and opportunity,&rdquo; he said. &ldquo;In reality, Vector is only marginally different from a pyramid scheme &ndash; a shady, illicit business based on deception, exploitation and psychological trickery. This is necessary to convince people who don&rsquo;t want or need new kitchen cutlery to buy it anyway and to coerce sales reps into conforming into the narrow corporate mold and disregard their ethical concerns over the door-to-door sales business.&rdquo; <br>  <br> Although Ferris said Vector does door-to-door sales, the company&rsquo;s director said this is not accurate.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;Door-to-door means knocking on the doors of house after house,&rdquo; Andrus said. &ldquo;Vector representatives conduct demonstrations of Cutco by pre-set appointments.&rdquo; <br>  <br> The views of what telemarketing consists of are also conflicting.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;I believe telemarketing is when you get on the phone and solicit something and with Vector, in order to get your appointments, you must solicit over the phone,&rdquo; Ferris said. &ldquo;Vector says it isn&rsquo;t telemarketing because you don&rsquo;t actually take their money over the phone.&rdquo; <br>  <br> He also said that the way Vector words the marketing pitch &ldquo;gives you the idea that you won&rsquo;t be going door-to-door to sell things and that you won&rsquo;t be soliciting anything over the phone. To me, this is clearly misleading.&rdquo; <br>  <br> Training becomes another issue because Vector does not hire students as employees but as independent contractors, which means that Vector doesn&rsquo;t give payment to trainees. <br>  <br> &ldquo;Employees are legally required to be paid for all their work, including training,&rdquo; Hesselius said. &ldquo;Vector says they don&rsquo;t have to pay you for training because you are your own boss who doesn&rsquo;t need employee labor laws like minimum wage, sick leave or employee rights like unemployment.&rdquo; <br>  <br> He said he finds a fault in the claim that the people hired are classified as independent contractors because they are working for Vector, not their own business, making this claim inaccurate.  <br>  <br> Andrus said she stands by the independent contractor claim.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;The definition of an independent contractor is clearly outlined in statute and the Vector sales rep position falls well within those specifications,&rdquo; she said. &ldquo;It is made clear during the interview that training is unpaid. Vector has not been found in violation of labor laws in this regard, despite Students Against Vector Exploitation&rsquo;s allegations.&rdquo;  <br>  <br> Although former employees have filed and won some lawsuits against Vector, the government has had little involvement with SAVE&rsquo;s fight against the company. <br>  <br> &ldquo;The sad truth is that there is little anyone can do about those deceptive practices,&rdquo; Professor Greene said. &ldquo;Our government is supposed to control these things, including deceptive advertising, through the Federal Trade Commission.&rdquo; <br>  <br> It is the government&rsquo;s hands-off approach toward business regulation that is to blame for letting these deceptive practices continue, Greene said. <br>  <br> &ldquo;The abuses of Vector Marketing and other companies like them demonstrate businesses that cannot be expected to be regulated simply by the marketplace,&rdquo; he said.  <br>  <br> Still, Andrus claims that Vector has done more good than harm. <br>  <br> &ldquo;For every member of SAVE, I could introduce you to hundreds of Vector reps who have had a pleasant and successful experience,&rdquo; she said. &ldquo;As someone who comes from academe, and student services in particular, I could never remain with an organization like the one SAVE describes.&rdquo; <br>  <br> Meanwhile, SAVE is growing, now with over 70 members online.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;We recently kicked off a campaign in Manhattan where we hand out fliers to potential workers at one of the biggest Vector offices in the country,&rdquo; Ferris said. &ldquo;The flier tells them about their rights and explains the side of the company that they won&rsquo;t talk about in the brainwashing sessions Vector calls the interviewing process.&rdquo; <br>  <br> When looking for a job, Greene said students should do research about the companies and job positions they are interested in applying for.  <br>  <br> &ldquo;If they (students) have not heard of the company that attracts their attention, ask around among friends, relatives and instructors,&rdquo; he said. <br><br> <a href=\"http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/savecampaign\/\">http:\/\/groups.yahoo.com\/group\/savecampaign\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/dailytitan.fullerton.edu\/issues\/fall_03\/11_06\/news\/students.html","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","summary":"Group says Vector Marketing \/ Cutco knife vendor misleads prospective workers with false claims.","numcomment":1,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2003\/11\/save.jpg","filesize":"5.5 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2003\/11\/93238.php","image":{"original":"\/uploads\/2003\/11\/save.jpg","small":"\/uploads\/2003\/11\/save.jpgthumb.jpg"}},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":99577,"heading":"Here's a few very good sites you can learn more about Vector:","article":"Here's a few very good sites you can learn more about Vector:\r\nhttp:\/\/www.marketingcritic.info\r\nhttp:\/\/www.geocities.com\/cutcocomplaints\/cutco_vector_alcas.html\r\nhttp:\/\/www.petitiononline.com\/vector\/petition.html\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cornelldailysun.com\/articles\/9671\/\r\nhttp:\/\/www.dailyhelmsman.com\/vnews\/display.v\/ART\/2003\/10\/09\/3f87081d92387?template=pda\r\nhttp:\/\/www.uictoday.net\/vnews\/display.v\/ART\/2003\/09\/12\/3f62190fd95d0?template=pda\r\nhttp:\/\/www.lclark.edu\/~piolog\/archive\/971107\/features\/classified.html","author":"Anon","parent_id":93238,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-01-07 02:34:36","modified":"2004-01-07 02:34:36","fileurl":""}]}