by Veteran
Sunday, Oct. 19, 2003 at 6:42 PM
Where are the "Support Our Troops" cretins from over at War Channel (Clear Channel) Propaganda now.
A.W.O.L.
They are scum.
The suckers who attended their rallies and are now not raising their voices in angry dissent as to how our Brave young men and women are being treated are scum.
by Sheepdog
Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 6:00 AM
thank you, veteran.
I watched as my comrades were killed in combat.
I watched as my comrades came home and tried to purge the sickness inside them with drugs and booze as the lice that sent them over there to provide wall street with 'defense' spending contracts promptly abandoned them, spreading the spitting at vets lie to further isolate them in their pain. I was never spat at, I was sympathized for the shit I had to go through.
by more rational
Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 10:37 AM
This ain't no different than an economic system that, even if you participate in it according to its rules, will let you earn wages so low that you'll have to cram yourself into a one-bedroom apartment with another worker, just to have a roof over your head. That won't guarantee that you'll have to go to county for health care, because the bosses won't shell out for health insurance.
Look at this parallel. A lot of military families are paid so little that they qualify for Food Stamps. A lot of factories will "lay off" workers during holidays, and push them onto unemployment, as a way to give them paid vacation.
What's the difference? It's a case of greedy conservatives "working the system" and not paying their fare share. Conservatives love to talk about "responsibility" but get real quiet when it comes to crap like leeching off welfare (or getting addicted to drugs like Rush did).
by krankyman
Monday, Oct. 20, 2003 at 6:23 PM
Jeez if he had only used cheap labor conservatives I could have sworn I wrote that. HERE HERE!!!!! And keep up the good work.
by Krusty
Tuesday, Oct. 21, 2003 at 4:12 AM
Cheap labor conservatives! Cheap labor conservatives! SQUAAAAAWK!
by krankyman
Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2003 at 8:31 AM
Yes the theme will be recurring because it's true. Just because it unveils the illusion that the cheap labor conservatives have used for years. If you can point out to me where the cheap labor consevatives have given ANYTHING to anyone except the mulit-national corporations it will be the first time. Once again the cheap labor conservatives try to drown out rational discourse with teen age antics. Just like Laura Ingraham broadcasting from the basement of the Heritage Foundation calls her book"Shut Up and Sing". To paraphrase the title correctly for cheap labor conservatives would be "Shut Up and Work."
by Krusty
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 6:33 AM
A new record for you, chump. Have you ever been responsible for anything besides your poli sci book report? Making a payroll, anything? Employees get paid whether or not the business makes money. That is what they signed on for. That is why there is a "Business" section in the newspaper, rather that a "Labor" section.
Found your subscription to Pravda yet?
by clc
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 6:39 AM
>Yes the theme will be recurring because it's true.
The theme will be recurring because krankyman the wingnut got his marching orders (as do all liberals and anarchist) from someone else (see link below) and is simply spewing out someone else's bad idea because he can come up with a bad idea on his own.
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/beattherightinthree.htm
by clc
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 6:41 AM
>Yes the theme will be recurring because it's true.
The theme will be recurring because krankyman the wingnut got his marching orders (as do all liberals and anarchist) from someone else (see link below) and is simply spewing out someone else's bad idea because he can't come up with a bad idea on his own.
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/beattherightinthree.htm
by Gary Sudborough
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 6:54 AM
earthangel1195@yahoo.com
I heard about this from a member of American Legion Post 521, and I was greatly appalled. Why doesn't the government do anything about this?
by Kelly
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 6:55 AM
They really should do something about this.
by krankyman
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 8:53 AM
An except from a October 13 2003 New York Times article:
"Sometimes called the father of the conservative movement, Paul M. Weyrich holds a weekly strategy session for 50 or so activists at the offices of his Free Congress Foundation near the Capitol.....When I (Matt Bai)attended a recent meeting, at the invitation of Weyrich's staff, those giving briefings included Senator James M. Inhofe of Oklahoma and Representative Eric Cantor of Virginia, representing the Republican leadership of both chambers, as well as President Bush's campaign manager, Ken Mehlman. and the chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers,N. Gregory Mankiw. The prickly Weyrich presided with a scowl from the dais(he is now confined to a wheelchair), from which he exhorted the faithful to get their message out, using words that made him sound like some liberals parody of Dr. Evil.
"There are 1500 conservative radio talk show hosts,"Weyrich boasted. "You have Fox News. You have the Internet, where all the successful sites are conservative. The ability to reach the people with our point of view is like nothing we have ever seen before!"
Weyrich was 31 when he and Edwin Feuler, then serving as disgruntled aides in a Congress dominated by Democrats, founded the Heritage Foundation in 1973 with early donations from a handful of wealthy families with names like Coors and Scaife. Determined to foster conservative scholarship and get it into the hands of like-minded policy makers, Weyrich and his compatriots were driven by a single, overarching conviction that grew out of the Goldwater campaign in 1964: government needed to be stingier at home and tougher abroad.
Weyrich and Feuler were not interested in securing immediate victories for a Republican Party that seemed to have,at that time,almost no hope of controlling Congress. In fact, many of the ideas they would ultimately champion--Social Security Privitization,school choice,missile defense--began well outside their party's mainstream. They were insurgents, and they set about staging an ideological takeover of the party, a process that came to fruition sooner than they might have hoped when Ronald Reagan, a fellow outsider, was elected president in 1980.
Today the Heritage Foundation, with an annual budget of roughly 30 million dollars, is like a university unto itself. It's eight story building houses some 180 employees, and it just completed an addition that has, among other amenities, state of the art teleconferencing, apartments for about 60 interns and a fully wired 250 seat auditorium with it's own greeroom.(Laura Ingraham, with one of the nation's largest radio followings, broadcasts from a Heritage studio)
In all, according to a study by the National Committee for Responsible Philanthropy, Heritage and other conservative think tanks--best known being the Cato Institute and the neo-conservative American Enterprise Institute--spent an estimated $1 billion promoting conservative ideas in the 1990's. From their ranks sprang some credible academics, whose think tank writings spawned powerful careers, including Jeane Kirkpatrick, the former U.N. ambassador, and Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court associate justice. There also came a flood of conservative theorists--like Charles Murray, whose book,"The Bell Curve" attacked assumptions about racial equality, and John Lott, who proposed that we would be safer if everyone carried a gun--whose arguments, however dubious, bled indelibly into the public debate."
Give me a break with that marching orders bullshit. If you just read the article the marching orders are followed and obeyed by the cheap labor conservatives. And you always say you think for yourselves. You just repeat what someone else tells you to say. Remember the phrase Ditto-heads, there is a reason for the phrase. There maybe not be a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy....but they are really fucking organized. And obediant.
by hehe
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 10:32 AM
krankyman - "You just repeat what someone else tells you to say."
This from someone who just repeats what someone else has told him to say.
See below:
krankyman - "cheap labor conservatives"
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/beattherightinthree.htm
by krankyman
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 12:46 PM
Jesus all you right wing nutzo's think you all made up the drivel you spiel. That's what the previous except was about. The cheap labor conservatives all say what the think tanks tell them. All "dotto-heads" have a hard time grasping reading and research. As I have said before when something I read that makes sense I will use it. That's called learning. IF you can refute the arguments on the web-site,www.conceptualguerilla.com I would love to read them...the challenge is there.....well.....????? Or are you going to grasp for the cheap labor conservative straw and call me a name. Well........point by point.
by nonanarchist
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 2:27 PM
What's the opposite of "cheap labor conservative", anyway?
"Expensive unproductive liberal"?
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Oh, by the way -- I went to that website, and nearly got motion sickness from the spin in there. You should put a warning label on that joker.
by hehe
Thursday, Oct. 23, 2003 at 4:43 PM
>Or are you going to grasp for the cheap labor conservative straw
You're the one reaching for straws. And then after being spoon feed what your marching orders are as handed down the chain of command, you declare to us that we're the one's who are receiving marching orders, just like they told you to say.
Here's the link again. Go back. Brush up. Your new marching orders await.
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/beattherightinthree.htm
by krankyman
Friday, Oct. 24, 2003 at 5:41 AM
I still don't read any salient points being made by anyone why cheap labor conservatives aren't trying to screw the working stiff. Just more right wing nutzo name calling. And how about all that garbage(oops "position papers") that comes out of cheap labor conservative TRAINING FACILITIES like the Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, etc,etc. Answer me this, Batman, why is the Republican unemployment rate always HIGHER than the previous Democratic administration. Why have cheap labor conservatives ALWAYS voted against minimum wage laws, child labor laws, Medicare, Medicaide, Social Security Insurance? Basically all the PROGRESSIVE reforms that have made this country a good place to live.Why do the cheap labor conservatives keep handing out huge sums to already viable corporations? I hear no answers.........hello.... hello...probably trying to think up more written misdirection from the questions.
by because
Friday, Oct. 24, 2003 at 6:07 AM
That's because we don't answer to you or anyone. You provide EV, we laugh and belittle you. That's the game here. And it *is* a game to us, make no mistake about that.
Carry on.
by fresca
Friday, Oct. 24, 2003 at 8:00 AM
Still waiting to hear the explanation of why "cheap labor" is somehow evil.
by Sheepdog
Friday, Oct. 24, 2003 at 7:11 PM
Remember our last heroic use of military resources in the region? Many of them are now ill. Birth defects, and contagion follow the shadows of these welcomed heroes. The y came home to yellow ribbons and denial.
Denial in not in short supply here with fresca around.
by krankyman
Saturday, Oct. 25, 2003 at 5:56 AM
Hey, flicka, the reason that cheap labor isn't good for society as a whole is it kills the middle class which is one factor that made this country a great place to live. Look at cheap labor hell holes like China,Thailand, the Mariana Islands(especially) and you see a distinct lack of a middle class. Just so the bosses can load up their pockets AT THE EXPENSE of labor. Eventually that will happen here in America especially with the Little Boy Emperor in the White House now.
Plus who is going to buy the products that industry produces if very few people earn a decent wage. The grocery workers tend to average about 8.65 an hour(even though the top rate is 15 or 16 bucks an hour.Butchers make a top of 19 bucks an hour or so,is that easy work?). At 8 or 9 dollars an hour that's just about the poverty level for a family of four at 40 hours a week(try getting forty hours a week at Wal-Mart who just got busted for using cheap immigrant labor). If the cheap labor conservatives have their way they'd pay everyone a buck an hour and tell them to go fuck themselves.