{"article":{"id":87772,"heading":"A majority of Californians voted against Arnold Schwarzenegger","author":"Duane J. Roberts","created":"2003-10-09 14:01:02","modified":"2003-10-13 07:49:36","last_modified":"Mon, 13 Oct 2003 14:49:36","article":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><body><p>The following calculations are based on information <br>  <br> that was posted on the California Secretary of State <br>  <br> WWW site as of 8:57 a.m. this morning. <br><br> I expect this data to change slightly over the course <br>  <br> of the next few weeks as thousands of other ballots <br>  <br> are counted and tabulated. <br><br> Despite claims of a \"landslide victory\" for Arnold <br>  <br> Schwarzenegger, the numbers clearly show that he has <br>  <br> NO mandate to govern California <br><br> So far, the numbers indicate that about 51.7% of those <br>  <br> persons who cast ballots in this election voted for <br>  <br> candidates OTHER than Schwarzenegger. <br><br> Since Schwarzenegger did not win a majority of the <br>  <br> vote in this election, he cannot claim that his views <br>  <br> and ideas represent the will of the electorate. <br><br> Sincerely, <br><br> Duane J. Roberts <br>  <br> <a href=\"mailto:duaneroberts92804@yahoo.com\">duaneroberts92804@yahoo.com<\/a> <br><br>  <br><br> STATEWIDE VOTE FOR CANDIDATES OTHER THAN <br>  <br> SCHWARZENEGGER <br><br> Cruz M. Bustamante             Dem   2,395,237 <br>  <br> Tom McClintock                       Rep     991,468 <br>  <br> Peter Miguel Camejo               Grn     208,526  <br>  <br> Arianna Huffington                      Ind      42,227 <br>  <br> Peter V. Ueberroth                    Rep      21,561  <br>  <br> Larry Flynt                                 Dem      15,112   <br>  <br> Gary Coleman                             Ind      12,514  <br>  <br> George B. Schwartzman            Ind      10,758 <br>  <br> Others (excluding write-ins)               171,427  <br><br> Total                                3,868,830 <br><br>  <br>  <br> STATEWIDE VOTE FOR SCHWARZENEGGER  <br><br> Arnold Schwarzenegger          Rep   3,601,797 <br><br>  <br>  <br> STATEWIDE VOTE FOR ALL CANDIDATES (Including Arnold) <br><br> All candidates                       7,470,627 <br><br>  <br>  <br> PERCENTAGE OF VOTE FOR ARNOLD VERSUS OTHER CANDIDATES <br><br> Arnold Schwarzenegger          48.2% <br>  <br> All other candidates                  51.7% <br>  <br> <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","contact":"duaneroberts92804@yahoo.com","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"A majority of persons who voted in the October 7th special election cast their ballots for candidates other than Arnold Schwarzenegger. They voted against him.","numcomment":23,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/10\/87772.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":87774,"heading":"Recall Governor Groper","article":"Californians deserve better.","author":"NASCAR Voters Suck","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 14:07:48","modified":"2003-10-09 14:07:48","fileurl":""},{"id":87778,"heading":"^","article":"They're losing their power, which is everything to these liberals.  Seems the citizens of California just can't be trusted with something as important as who's in office.\r\n\r\nThese liberals don't trust the people, they don't trust elections, they want to control thought, they want to control speech, they want to control rather than govern.  These liberals idea of freedom is for everyone to do what they say.\r\n\r\nAnd so we get posts like two above.\r\n\r\nThe panic begins.","author":"whoo-hoo","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 14:19:12","modified":"2003-10-09 14:19:12","fileurl":""},{"id":87781,"heading":"mr","article":"let me preface this comment by saying that I voted against the\r\nrecall but selected bustamante otherwise.\r\n\r\nIn looking at the votes the combined republican votes\r\nfor schwarnegger and mcclintock \r\ndwarfed the democratic alternative bustamante\r\n\r\ni hope that someone looks into this since it makes\r\nbe wonder what sort of turnout there was and\r\nwhether a lot of democrats crossed over\r\n\r\n","author":"patrick","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 14:29:18","modified":"2003-10-09 14:29:18","fileurl":""},{"id":87790,"heading":"&quot;and whether a lot of democrats crossed over&quot;","article":"Or whether those Diebold voting machines were rigged.","author":"Jen","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 14:48:15","modified":"2003-10-09 14:48:15","fileurl":""},{"id":87805,"heading":"data for the abstained?","article":"% of abstainees anybody?","author":"adrian more","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 15:55:00","modified":"2003-10-09 15:55:00","fileurl":""},{"id":87806,"heading":"data for the abstained?","article":"% of abstainees anybody?","author":"adrian more","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 15:56:49","modified":"2003-10-09 15:56:49","fileurl":""},{"id":87817,"heading":"Hey Duane!!!!","article":"Hey Duane, while it is true that the Governor Elect received only 48% of the popular vote, but, why dont you check your facts before you open your pie hole.  The current Governor received 47% of the popular vote, so what does that mean?  Davis had 2 or 3 people to run against.  Arnold had 134.\r\n\r\nBy the way, are you still wearing that STUPID looking hat????","author":"john","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 16:43:51","modified":"2003-10-09 16:43:51","fileurl":""},{"id":87820,"heading":"Dirty politics killed the Democraps.","article":"The people have spoken. They are fed up with fifth column leftists and dirty politics. Get your acts together or get the hell out of our country!","author":"Max","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 16:49:40","modified":"2003-10-09 16:49:40","fileurl":""},{"id":87824,"heading":"Looking at the Ahnold-McClintock Votes","article":"We can see 3 out of 4 Republicans approve of sexual harassment.","author":"stats","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 17:03:31","modified":"2003-10-09 17:03:31","fileurl":""},{"id":87826,"heading":"Clintonesque","article":"Clinton cured everyone of caring about sexual harrassment.  It has nothing to do with the job of being president.  The people don't care.  It's time to move on.\r\n\r\nmoveon.org","author":"calvoter","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 17:07:57","modified":"2003-10-09 17:07:57","fileurl":""},{"id":87828,"heading":"Plutocracy Marches On","article":"Another multimillionaire seizes the reigns.","author":"NASCAR Voters Suck","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 17:10:27","modified":"2003-10-09 17:10:27","fileurl":""},{"id":87829,"heading":"Stupid Post","article":"Regardless of who you wanted to win the election, in any competitive election in the U.S. the winner seldom gets a simple majority of the votes.  Fringe candidates from other parties (Green, Libertarian, Socialist, etc.) take enough of the vote to keep this from happening.  If this is so important to you Duane, maybe you should advocate the abolition of all candidates that aren't Republican or Democratic. ","author":"Lee","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 17:12:29","modified":"2003-10-09 17:12:29","fileurl":""},{"id":87848,"heading":"Solution to this problem would be Instant Runoff Voting","article":"I disagree with Lee's assertion that we should make it more difficult for the candidates of political parties other than Democrats or Republicans from qualifying for the ballot.\r\n\r\nIf anything, I think instituting a system of Instant Runoff Voting (IRV) here in California would completely eliminate the problem of candidates not getting a majority of the vote.\r\n\r\nSee the following URL for more information:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.fairvote.org\/irv\/\r\n\r\nAnd John is right when he argues Gray Davis got 47% of the vote in the November 2002 election. Like Schwarzenegger, he too had no &quot;mandate&quot; to govern California. That's part of the reason why he was recalled.\r\n\r\nSincerely,\r\n\r\nDuane J. Roberts\r\nduaneroberts92804@yahoo.com","author":"Duane J. Roberts","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 17:54:33","modified":"2003-10-09 17:54:33","fileurl":""},{"id":87853,"heading":"Re: Solution to this problem would be Instant Runoff Voting","article":"I wrote:\r\n\r\n> I disagree with Lee's assertion that we should\r\n> make it more difficult for the candidates of\r\n> political parties other than Democrats\r\n> or Republicans from qualifying for the ballot. \r\n\r\nI should have wrote:\r\n\r\n&quot;I disagree with Lee's assertion that we should make it more difficult for the candidates of political parties other than Democrats or Republicans to qualify for the ballot.&quot;\r\n\r\nThat reads much better.\r\n\r\nSincerely,\r\n\r\nDuane J. Roberts\r\nduaneroberts92804@yahoo.com","author":"Duane J. Roberts","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 18:00:51","modified":"2003-10-09 18:00:51","fileurl":""},{"id":87855,"heading":"&quot;A majority of Californians voted against Arnold Schwarzenegger&quot;  CMON!!!!!!","article":"You gotta be shittin me! Any true-blue native Californian like myself could see this one as soon as Arnold became a candidate. Besides the sheer &quot;novelty&quot; of the man, he is strong on politics which concern REAL Californians.\r\n\r\n1. The state of California has the single largest economy of any state in the Union. http:\/\/commerce.ca.gov\/state\/ttca\/ttca_homepage.jsp\r\n\r\na.) The $9 billion loss incurred by Davis as a result of the Enron scandal is barely a ripple compared to the Gross State Income. \r\nb.) Calls on this site to &quot;boycott California&quot; are drug induced blurtings of morons. The economy of California is the 5th largest in the WORLD, and it doesnt depend on any income from you left wing whiners (most of whom dont have a decent job anyway), or you sign-carrying, low income imbeciles who dont pay much in taxes.\r\n\r\n2.) One look at Arnold, and one look at the seriously DAMAGED beotches who claimed that Arnold &quot;groped&quot; them tells the story. First of all, how did the cows even get that close to him? They were sidling up to him HOPING to get groped. Californians are not that naive, and the tired old &quot;he's a pervert!&quot; trick has gotten old, and it doesnt work anymore.\r\n\r\n3.) Hispanics are the majority ethnic group in California. Unfortunately (for them), a vary large percentage of them are ILLEGAL ALIENS (fuck that &quot;undocumented workers&quot; crap). Hence, they CANNOT VOTE. The legal Hispanic citizens stand to lose if legislation is passed which allows the ILLEGAL invaders to more easily break the laws here.\r\n\r\n4.) The tax base in California is skewed towards the poor and against the wealthy, therefore , causing a situation which might make them leave the state will ALWAYS be dropped. If you make less than $50K a year, you dont really get the picture. If you make $60K or more, you feel the pinch. If you make $100K or more, you REALLY feel it.. Those people making more than $200K a year are running businesses which employ lots of Californians. Screw them and you screw California.\r\n\r\nBOTTOM LINE:\r\n\r\nYou left wing fuckwads dont know the first thing about responsibility. You have the Sherman Austins who irresponsibly create terrorist websites and end up in prison, and you have sign-carrying morons who could be burning that energy by working in a job, and you have a bunch of bull-dagger dyke bitches calling themselves &quot;Code Pink&quot; who dig up &quot;groping&quot; stories to win an election by low-blow politics. PATHETIC. Get a JOB, Get a LIFE or GET THE FUCK OUT.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 18:04:45","modified":"2003-10-09 18:04:45","fileurl":""},{"id":87858,"heading":"Ahnold: the Second Embarassment for U.S. Democracy","article":"Bush was the first.","author":"NASCAR Voters Suck","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 18:09:37","modified":"2003-10-09 18:09:37","fileurl":""},{"id":87860,"heading":"Huge chunk of Democrats voted for Arnold","article":"Earlier this year, the Gator Corporation, an online\r\nmarketing firm, conducted an extensive poll of internet users in California, asking them how they felt about the recall. At that time, the results strongly hinted that more than 1\/3 of all Democrats would vote for Arnold  Schwarzenegger in any future special election. Lt. Governor Cruz Bustamante's very weak performance in this special election indicates to me the poll they conducted was surprisingly accurate.\r\n\r\nSincerely,\r\n\r\nDuane J. Roberts\r\nduaneroberts92804@yahoo.com\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.gatorcorporation.com\/companyinfo\/press\/pr030723.html\r\n\r\nSchwarzenegger vs. any Democrat:\r\n\r\n63% of all respondents stated they would vote for\r\nSchwarzenegger \r\n30% of Davis supporters stated they would vote for\r\nSchwarzenegger \r\n35% of Democrat respondents stated they would vote for\r\nSchwarzenegger \r\n\r\nWhen told of the results, George Gorton,\r\nSchwarzenegger's political adviser said, &quot;I am\r\ndelighted. This is the third poll we've seen where\r\nArnold beats Feinstein and the latest in an unbroken\r\nstring where he beats Davis. We are especially pleased\r\nwith The Gator Corporation's findings because Internet\r\nusers are more informed than the average voter, and\r\ntherefore their opinions should closely approximate\r\nthe opinions of the highly motivated voters who will\r\nshow up in this low turn out special election.&quot; \r\n\r\n","author":"Duane J. Roberts","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 18:11:36","modified":"2003-10-09 18:11:36","fileurl":""},{"id":87862,"heading":"When Republicans Count the Votes, What Do You Expect?","article":"[From an article by Lynn Landes]\r\n\r\nES&S - 7,305,680 registered voters\r\n\r\nES&S, the nation's largest voting company, is owned by the Omaha World Herald Company and has solid ties to the Republican Party. ES&S claims on their website that they tabulated &quot;56% of the U.S. national vote for the past four presidential elections.&quot;\r\n\r\nSequoia - 3,682,051 voters\r\n\r\nSequoia is owned by De La Rue, a British-based company and the world's largest commercial security printer and papermaker. They also own a 20% stake in Camelot, the operator of the Great Britain's national lottery.\r\n\r\nDiebold - 2,412,971 voters\r\n\r\nWalden O'Dell, Diebold's chief executive, recently wrote a fund-raising letter for the re-election of President George Bush","author":"Lowbrow Nation","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 18:15:27","modified":"2003-10-09 18:15:27","fileurl":""},{"id":87863,"heading":"When Republicans Count the Votes, What Do You Expect?","article":"HAHAHA\r\n\r\nThe quacks are coming out.\r\n\r\nAnd you people wonder why we stick around.","author":"1","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 18:17:23","modified":"2003-10-09 18:17:23","fileurl":""},{"id":87915,"heading":"anti-arnold people did well","article":"Its all about the One World Order.  The bankers run most of the politics, and they are a mean machine to fight.  Whatever side you were on besides ARnold, you did good!  You are to be commended.","author":"Freckles","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 21:17:45","modified":"2003-10-09 21:17:45","fileurl":""},{"id":87931,"heading":"&quot; Whatever side you were on besides ARnold, you did good!&quot;","article":"Yeah!  You lost!\r\n\r\nYay, team!","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-09 23:27:39","modified":"2003-10-09 23:27:39","fileurl":""},{"id":87951,"heading":"really?","article":"who did you vote for nonanarchist?\r\nDont they have a south carolina indymedia website?\r\n\r\nAll praise to Ahhnold for his lack of political experience...god save us...","author":"daveman","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-10 03:57:08","modified":"2003-10-10 03:57:08","fileurl":""},{"id":87959,"heading":"daveman","article":"I'm not a resident of CA.  I couldn't vote.  \r\n\r\nBut I would have voted for Arnie.\r\n\r\nNo, there's no SC imc.  What's your point?\r\n\r\nBTW:  you do realize, don't you, that I was the original daveman?  I don't mind you using the handle now, though.  ","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":87772,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-10 07:34:35","modified":"2003-10-10 07:34:35","fileurl":""}]}