{"article":{"id":86481,"heading":"How to drive KOBE SBM insane.","author":"Observer","created":"2003-10-04 13:22:35","modified":"2003-10-05 01:38:25","last_modified":"Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:38:25","article":"

KOBE SBM is a cyber stalker. Cyber stalkers seek a sense of control. The entire reason for posting, from the point of view of a stalker, is to provoke a response, hopefully the reponse he wants. Let's deny him this.

Here is my proposal.

Anyone that wishes to rid LA IMC of KOBE SBM should not respond to anything he posts. Do not mention him. To not answer him with your comments. Completely ignore him.

The same should be applied to \"nonanarchist\", \"daveman\", \"fresca\", and \"Rational Normal Person.\" Anyone replying to them should be considered an ally of KOBE.

As for defamatory and\/or libelous articles published by KOBE or in the names of KOBE victims, LA IMC has been doing a good job at hiding them and we ask LA IMC to continue the good work.

Let's turn our collective backs on KOBE SBM and his multiple personalities.<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"The reality is that he is already insane. However, there may be no limit to insanity. Let's push him further.","numcomment":70,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/10\/86481.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":86523,"heading":"Um...you request (as you will see) will be ignored","article":"You see, "Observer", the posts made by the people you included on your little list are the most commented on this website. That is an indication that out posts are far more popular than the ridiculous suggestion you just made. Also, posters such as frescam Bush Admirer and the others have been her far longer than you have. I have a few suggestions for you:\r\n\r\n1.) Open your own website where you and other cowardly leftists (who cannot effectively compete with the intellect of inherently superior pragmatist commentary), can be alone with your flawed ideaologies.\r\n\r\n2.) You can simply ignore this IMC altogether so that the rest of us dont have to read your whiney posts. You are neither part of this IMC collective, nor would anyone visit yours if you had the balls to attempt opening one.\r\n\r\n3.) Do all of the above, and go to the store and purchase an industrial strength jar of Vaseline, one large eggplant, and a shoehorn. Grease up your rectum, then shove the eggplant as far up your ass as possible (use the shoehorn to assist).\r\n\r\nThese suggestions are probably going to be followed by equally witty ones from the others you named. Have a nice day!","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 15:47:24","modified":"2003-10-04 15:47:24","fileurl":""},{"id":86536,"heading":"Not an eggplant!","article":"This is my contribution to yet ANOTHER useless thread DeVoy has started on an IMC.\r\n\r\nI vote for a Pineapple.......... \r\n\r\nMain Entry: pine\u00b7ap\u00b7ple \r\nPronunciation: 'pI-"na-p&l\r\nFunction: noun\r\nDate: 1664\r\n1 a : a tropical monocotyledonous plant (Ananas comosus of the family Bromeliaceae, the pineapple family) that has rigid spiny-margined recurved leaves and a short stalk with a dense oblong head of small abortive flowers b : the large edible multiple fruit of the pineapple that consists of the sweet succulent fleshy inflorescence (Ouch!)\r\n2 : a hand grenade (Ummmm........)\r\n\r\nMay DeVoys thread now be put in the trash where it belongs.\r\n\r\nThank you.","author":"Rational Normal Person","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 16:31:44","modified":"2013-11-11 00:26:30","fileurl":""},{"id":86576,"heading":"DeVoy appears to be part of the problem","article":"> The same should be applied "nonanarchist", "daveman", "fresca", and "Rational Normal Person"\r\n\r\n\r\nThis is already happening, but with a twist -\r\n\r\nSince kobe is mental but still has a place of business the best thing to do is\r\n\r\n1.) post info that exposes the relationship between kobe and ned\/compnla (I'm also stoking the search engines with it) There's a very clear and consistant pattern of kobe withdrawing everytime such info is posted and he's no longer doing death threats and so on either (he's afraid to now)\r\n\r\n2.) ignore all the other handles *and all obvious troll bait comments* since now dave has taken to posting as even more handles to "trick" people into responding as he announced earyler today\r\n\r\n\r\nYOU DeVoy are the one who consistently enables him to attack and hang on because he consistantly out-wits\/out-smarts you and in fact likes doing it - has said so - that he *wishes to deal with DeVoy* in also in fact wishes to ignore me.\r\n\r\nI have him over a barrel AND in retreat\r\n\r\nYou - in 2 years - have managed to do neither of these things, and seem to feed the BS by posting out-of-the-blue as above which only serves as *bait for him*.\r\n\r\nIt's been suggested , and *my IP analysis shows* that you feed him intentionally, that you resort to many of the same games he plays and that you post as several handles freely disregarding the ideas of honesty *like a troll*, that like him - it is a game to you as well by which you get attention and keep the conflict going for whatever you get out of it (maybe playing the victim and the attention it gives ?)\r\n\r\nMatter of fact looking over the IP's it's often hard to *tell you two apart* because your tactics and games are so much alike.\r\n\r\n2 years show you are *unqualified to deal with him* and are partially the reason why this has went on as long as it has..\r\n\r\nI suggest for the good of this IMC that you withdraw as well and let me deal with him - I've proven effective at it and *he has no dirt on me* and never will.\r\n\r\nHe started from a position of anonymity compared to your name, address, place of employment, etc\r\n\r\nIn 2 years you have failed to correct this...\r\n\r\nOn the other hand I've started from a position of being *truely* anon, with kobe's IP's and ties being exposed as an on-going process. This gives me the upper hand with him, and it shows - I've gotten results in a very short time frame compared to no results after 2 years.\r\n\r\n\r\nMy attitude has been to simply allow you to stand back (to give you a rest\/vacation) from this situation, and when you are away things do greatly quiet down - kobe stops posting as well and withdraws from his old activities.\r\n\r\nAs soon as you post another thread like this drawing attention to him and *taunting him* (he see's any post of yours that mentions him as a taunt) he starts back up again knowing he will out-wit you once more in his little word games (as above)\r\n\r\nI've posted a thread about him - but strictly to *expose* him - with damning info that he's *afraid of having made public*\r\n\r\nI've seen only *empty promises* from you on doing *anything* you talked about - including posting further info on him on here, providing a "bust pack" or anything at all.\r\n\r\nAs far as I can see you are not helping things one bit and are in fact inflaming the situation and keeping it alive by starting threads like these which are VOID of any actual info that damns him, that serve only as an *open invitation* for him to - once more - play his little word games\r\n\r\nmy method is as such;\r\n\r\nkobe posts are to be responded with by posting the damning data that shows the death threats and the connection between kobe and ned lyle\/compnla\r\n\r\nall these other persona's are to be ignored -\r\n\r\nbush admirer \r\nkobe duke \r\ndaveman \r\nfresca \r\nnonanarchist \r\npanolope\r\nnormal rational person \r\njennifer\r\nanna\r\nkabong\r\nnate\r\nBTW\r\nLSL\r\n\r\nand whatever new ones he makes up...\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 17:54:29","modified":"2003-10-04 17:54:29","fileurl":""},{"id":86580,"heading":"more crazy talk","article":"It's a very scary world for you, isn't it cutoffs?","author":"fresca","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 17:59:21","modified":"2003-10-04 17:59:21","fileurl":""},{"id":86583,"heading":"Im going to have to break my silence for this one, Hex","article":""On the other hand I've started from a position of being *truely* anon, with kobe's IP's and ties being exposed as an on-going process. This gives me the upper hand with him, and it shows - I've gotten results in a very short time frame compared to no results after 2 years. "\r\n\r\nWHAT???????\r\n\r\nPlease list the "results" you think you have gottn from your impotent "get KOBE" campaign? Here is a list of debunking for you:\r\n\r\n1.) I dont have a place of business...I have an employer, and its not Computers NLA. You will find no connection betwen Ned Lyle\/Computers NLA and myself because there ISNT one.\r\n\r\n2.) The "death threats" you found were not posted by KOBE in the first place. They were posted by Michael C. Holmes of Neenah Wisconsin, the same person who matches the IP on that stupid post you keep displaying over and over. Level 3 Communications. If they have stopped, then good for you. KOBE had nothing to do with them to begin with.\r\n\r\n3.) Your IP information is useless. They have failed to yield any names, addresses, or anything else. Why you feel you have made any effect whatsoever is beyond me. Each time you post here, you reveal just how LAME you really are. Now, it is obviously apparent that you not only dont know any advanced computing, but the basics are beyond you as well.\r\n\r\n4.) KOBE is doing EXACTLY the same now as it has been doing since November 4th 2002, except that our website has grown 300%, our traffic stats are up 350% (over 5500 hits per day, over 6 MILLION total since November 2002), and we now control 6 IMC sites worldwide.\r\n\r\n6.) Not only am I still anon, but so are ALL the members of KOBE. You do not have a name, address, or any information on any of us. Also, your list above is comprised of DIFFERENT people here on LA-IMC. You cant accept that because they all are laughing at you just as KOBE is. Your only psychological defense against the TOTAL rejection of you here at this IMC is to conclude that we are all the same person? BWAHAHAHAHA! You are your own joke and punch line rolled into one!\r\n\r\nHow do you figure you "have KOBE over a barrel"? You have had absolutely NO EFFECT on anything we do. We are so unconcerned about you and your empty threats that we are ignoring you altogether. We have people in Cambridge watching DeVoy, and he one of our targets. You are merely a heckler on the sidelines, and you will be ignored. \r\n\r\nNow that I have said that, I can go back to doing important things....","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 18:10:04","modified":"2003-10-04 18:10:04","fileurl":""},{"id":86585,"heading":"kobe = ned lyle proof (enough for the authorities)","article":"Here's another shot showing how kobe was aware of the dangerous illegal so-called spoof yet did nothing to protect his name\/ned\/compnla\r\n\r\nthat is - until I exposed the death threat on here.\r\n\r\nsince then he's;\r\n\r\n1.) changed hosting for kobehq.com again\r\n2.) went through my older posts looking for dirt on me\r\n3.) stopped the death threats and "open season" on whole groups of people he felt free to attack in the past\r\n\r\nand this is just 1 of many bits of evidence I have too..\r\n\r\nmaking death threats to public officials is a very serious crime and they are *required* to investigate\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-10-04 18:11:05","modified":"2005-08-15 01:43:16","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/10\/nedkobe2.jpg7d5tuk.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/10\/nedkobe2.jpg7d5tuk.jpg"}},{"id":86597,"heading":"That didn't take long","article":"That didn't take you long to "ignore" us with another silly post, did it hexie?","author":"fresca","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 18:23:31","modified":"2003-10-04 18:23:31","fileurl":""},{"id":86598,"heading":""Another" post? THAT'S THE SAME FUCKING PICTURE!","article":"The only thing that changes is what you write on it. The most important element of that post is the IP address: 67.73.161.58 which belongs to Level 3 communications. The other shit is useless. I can go to that same board, post something in your name, use any e-mail address I choose, and post whatever "death threat" I want. Nobody can do anything about that. But the IP address traces back to the person who posted it. That would be Michael C. Holmes of Neenah, Wisconsin. Period. End of story.\r\n\r\nNot only will I not address it, but I will continue to laugh at you and be entertained by how incredibly STUPID you are. You own post shows why you are wrong, and you just dont understand why you are wrong. Oh well....whatever floats your boat. Back to ignore mode.\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 18:24:06","modified":"2003-10-04 18:24:06","fileurl":""},{"id":86606,"heading":"Gentlemen (as applicable)","article":"Observer:\r\n\r\nGood luck with that. If it weren't for the conservatives posting here, this place would dry up and blow away, and the bitter residue that would be left would consist of self-congratulatory rants boiling down to nothing more than "Bush and Jews suck!" \r\n\r\nSo we'll do you a favor and keep posting so you may have another outlet for your delsuional rants. You're welcome.\r\n\r\nHex:\r\n\r\n"since now dave has taken to posting as even more handles to "trick" people into responding as he announced earyler today "\r\n\r\nThank you, Mr Obvious. I listed all the handles I've used last week. Try to keep up, Skippy.\r\n\r\n"I have him over a barrel AND in retreat"\r\n\r\nHow does that work, exactly? If he's retreating, wouldn't he roll off the barrel? Is there a barrel dolly involved? Or a forklift, maybe?\r\n\r\n" *my IP analysis shows*"\r\n\r\n...squat. If you analyze KOBE's IPs as well as you did mine, it's amazing you tracked him down to just his one planet.\r\n\r\n"all these other persona's are to be ignored -"\r\n\r\nYou can't, and you know it. You need some outlet to prove your "superior intellect", and chasing us "personna's" (sic) is the perfect stage for your mad hakkin' skillz.\r\n\r\nBesides, 5 of those on your list are definitely non-KOBE. 2 of them are mine; the other 3 are distinctly individual people. \r\n\r\nBut you just keep thinking we're all the same person, if it makes your fears retreat a little.\r\n\r\nOh, by the way...arrogance without justification is pretty sad.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 18:36:51","modified":"2003-10-04 18:36:51","fileurl":""},{"id":86613,"heading":"it's not YOU that needs convincing","article":"> Michael C. Holmes of Neenah, Wisconsin. \r\n\r\nA kobe member...\r\n\r\nwhen they pull your user logs his name will turn up (unless you purge him now) but most importantly he'll rat you out to save his own skin... as per kobe style\r\n\r\n\r\nthis also shows how various kobe's also post as eachother... this guarantees you will *all go down* together since you all post as kobe and all do the same illegal threats and harassment\r\n\r\nso kobe has not changed a thing ?\r\n\r\npost another death threat then...\r\n\r\nkobe sbm\/hq (ned lyle) - death threat to Davis\r\nkobe duke\/scott - death threat to Cythia\r\n\r\nalso DeVoy has been threatened several times, along with sherman and other's...\r\n\r\nGO AHEAD KOBE, post some more death threats\r\n\r\nwhat's the matter - you used to quite often\r\n\r\nso much for haven't changed..\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 18:44:41","modified":"2003-10-04 18:44:41","fileurl":""},{"id":86614,"heading":"BWAHAHAHAHA!","article":""How does that work, exactly? If he's retreating, wouldn't he roll off the barrel? Is there a barrel dolly involved? Or a forklift, maybe? "\r\n\r\nBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 18:46:19","modified":"2003-10-04 18:46:19","fileurl":""},{"id":86623,"heading":"Yoou mean death threats...","article":"...like the photo you posted of a man holding a bloody knife, titled "we know where you live"?\r\n\r\nIs that the kind of death threat you want KOBE to post, Hex?\r\n\r\nYou know, like the death-threat photo you posted on a public website, directed at me?\r\n\r\nThat kind, Hex?","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 19:04:24","modified":"2003-10-04 19:04:24","fileurl":""},{"id":86624,"heading":"the burned out shell of the former kobe","article":"> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!\r\n\r\nwow that's scary !\r\n\r\nyou've threatened to kill "bwahahahhaha"...\r\n\r\nso I can see nothing's changed, you still feel free to post death threats...\r\n\r\nkobe still "has it"\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 19:06:50","modified":"2003-10-04 19:06:50","fileurl":""},{"id":86625,"heading":"Ignoring me, Hex?","article":"Nothing to say about that threat on my life you made?\r\n\r\nNot that I have anything to be worried about...you wouldn't have the courage to give me a firm handshake if we ever met.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 19:16:10","modified":"2003-10-04 19:16:10","fileurl":""},{"id":86628,"heading":"Nah, nonanarchist...its probably all clammy and sweaty","article":"Besides, it probably is all "slidey" from the vaseline he used to shove the eggplant up his ass as I suggedted at the top of this thread. He's probably all excited with that big 'ol veggie up in there, ya think?\r\n\r\nNOTE TO HEX:\r\n\r\nYou should get a child of school age to proofread your posts. So many grammatical errors, too many inappropriate uses of the lowly apostrophe, poor sentence structure, improper use of punctuation symbols...sigh....too many to point out. Stevie isnt going to like it when he finds out that you have betrayed him. He will accuse you of being a KOBE, and we are going to help you out with your betrayal....BWAHAHAHA!\r\n\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 19:23:33","modified":"2003-10-04 19:23:33","fileurl":""},{"id":86629,"heading":"a satircal picture is not a death threat","article":"and an anon handle is not a public official, THIS is more what I'm refering to |\r\n\r\nkobe duke is tied to "nonanarchist", so here's an actual real death threat towards Davis from YOU\r\n\r\nand yes all handles in the list are to be ignored - not that they are either kobe or the same\/one person but that they are all TROOLS and time sinks\r\n(deny at all costs - like that cellphone thread, TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to reach a tower from 35,000' yet fresca blind 11 - as always - denies just for the sake of denying...\r\n\r\na total waste of time to deal with as no proof - even FOIA documents and pictures backed by video, etc is *ever* admitted as true.\r\n\r\nthe trolls are simply here to waste people's time for thier own amusement and for *no other reason*\r\n\r\ntherefore there's no reason to reply to them at all\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-10-04 19:33:09","modified":"2005-08-15 01:43:16","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/10\/kobeduke.jpgstxzia.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/10\/kobeduke.jpgstxzia.jpg"}},{"id":86630,"heading":"kobe's lost his balls (maybe to microwaves ?)","article":"> Stevie isnt going to like it when he finds out that you have betrayed him. \r\n\r\nI don't give a shit - my interest is in IMC, specifically\r\n helping rid them of trolls...\r\n\r\nif the shoe fits...\r\n\r\n\r\nas to your ad-hoc comments again they mean nothing\r\n to me since you don't have even a scrap of evidence\r\n to show who or where I am anyway\r\n\r\nI on the other hand DO have the goods on you, and I\r\n see you're still making death threats - that ANY kobe is..\r\n\r\nso much for nothing's changed !\r\n\r\nplease kobe - any kobe - post some more death threats, pretty please ?\r\n\r\n","author":"the spell checker with grammar speaks","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 19:39:25","modified":"2003-10-04 19:39:25","fileurl":""},{"id":86633,"heading":"Never have, never will. Cheap tricks","article":"No KOBE has never posted any death threat of any kind. Others (stupid people like you and Michael C. Holmes) have tried, but unsuccessfully. The bottom line is the IP trace back to the person who posted them. Unfortunately for you (and fortunately for us), the FBI has access to such information and thus ignores your preposterous accusations. They know the truth, as do we. Post as many of your diagrams as you wish. No KOBE goes to a biker board! BWAHAHAHA! \r\n\r\nSince you think you have so much "evidence", then bringing us down should be easy, right? PROVE IT, BITCH. You got NOTHIN.","author":"KOBE","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 19:47:54","modified":"2003-10-04 19:47:54","fileurl":""},{"id":86635,"heading":"RE: DeVoy appears to be part of the problem","article":"I can see how it would appear that way. However, I am not part of the problem. I am attempting to hinder KOBE in its efforts to harass others. Hex, you sound like the typical person that thinks that the victim of an attack should roll over and die. Sorry, that's not my style.\r\n\r\nAs for using mulitple handles, I do, at times, use multiple handles. So don't most people. I fail to see a problem with that. In fact, it is necessary in making the life of cyber stalkers more difficult. The more handles I use, the more difficult it is for a search engine to string them all together. I intend to continue using multiple handles.\r\n\r\nAs for releasing more information, I call the shots on that. First of all, I already have too much to do with several websites, several jobs, and activist work. I am also arranging information for legal use. The decision to release or not release information is not an easy one to make.\r\n\r\nAnother point is that I have observed KOBE long enough to know that he often constructs fake "helpers" for his victims. He has done this to me in the past and it is completely consistent with literature on the psychopathology of a cyber stalker. Therefore, I don't know if you are for real. The two of you seem to enjoy long conversations online, don't you? So, I have little desire to share openly at this moment.\r\n\r\nIn any case, I continue to oppose KOBE and have no problem with playing hardball when necessary. Sometimes the point is to demonstrate that there is nothing special about their abilities. For example, nonanarchist didn't know it was me questioning him yesterday. That's the point. Anyone can do it. There is NOTHING special about KOBE.\r\n\r\nAs far as KOBE "having people watching me" in Harvard Square, that's called stalking. The first one outed goes to jail.\r\n\r\nSo Hex, you've reduced my faith in you further. I'm glad I waited before sharing.\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:07:09","modified":"2003-10-04 20:07:09","fileurl":""},{"id":86636,"heading":"BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Our plan failed, Stevie?","article":""So Hex, you've reduced my faith in you further. I'm glad I waited before sharing. "\r\n\r\nHex, please report to Headquarters as soon as possible. We will have to cut new orders for you. Your cover is blown....BWAHAHAHAHA!\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:13:02","modified":"2003-10-04 20:13:02","fileurl":""},{"id":86637,"heading":"notice the fresca-like backpeddling","article":"> No KOBE goes to a biker board! BWAHAHAHA! \r\n\r\nThen what the hell is THIS ?\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:51:58 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM (the real one) \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n4.3.124.190\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=15963.649248938508\r\n\r\n\r\nThe 4.3.124.190 is kobe's IP, within the same class C block where kobehq.com used to be - 4.3.124.156\r\n\r\nkobe has *already admitted it was him* too - now he's backpeddling and saying no kobe posted on that board;\r\n\r\nhere's a list of all the times "kobe" posted on it - \r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Sep 05, 2003 at 00:27:19 (EDT) \r\nposted as KOBE SBM\r\nNed Lyle\r\n67.73.161.58\r\nmailto:Sarge@compnla.com\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=15194.995831369929\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nThurs, Sep 04, 2003 at 23:36:15 (EDT) \r\nposted as KOBE Duke\r\nKOBE Duke\r\n67.73.180.252\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=14107.14353444193\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSat, Aug 16, 2003 at 15:52:11 (EDT) \r\nKOBE Duke \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.172.77\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=10080.46612863385894\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSat, Aug 16, 2003 at 17:17:16 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.20\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=9286.2093060123701\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSat, Aug 16, 2003 at 21:47:36 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.178.136\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=2265.70561877778921\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:09:30 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.164.146\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=9736.558770410257\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:13:49 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.164.146\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=7279.2279435019313\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:14:06 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.164.146\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=13819.031260953897\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:22:03 (EDT) \r\nKOBE_Screenpass \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.164.146\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=14031.381214510236\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:51:58 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM (the real one) \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n4.3.124.190\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=15963.649248938508\r\n\r\n52 year old alcoholic pervert named Michael C. Holmes in Neenah, Wisconsin. \r\n\r\n\r\nMon, Aug 18, 2003 at 00:03:15 (EDT) \r\nKOBE HQ \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.148\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=15665.577791103665\r\n\r\n\r\n192.93.19.125\r\n\r\n\r\nMon, Aug 18, 2003 at 00:16:32 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.148\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=12802.5933876834149\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Aug 19, 2003 at 00:26:17 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.48\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=14566.11659713233\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 16:28:04 (EDT) \r\nThe Real KOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.172.73\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=12772.267560090476\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 16:28:19 (EDT) \r\nThe Real KOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.172.73\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=10586.5254599205946\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 16:28:34 (EDT) \r\nThe Real KOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.172.73\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=13990.6648879047680\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 16:28:49 (EDT) \r\nThe Real KOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.172.73\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=10658.2456892072\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 16:29:04 (EDT) \r\nThe Real KOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.172.73\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=9999.5322163193530\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n212.129.238.145\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 17:06:40 (EDT) \r\nThe Real Michael Holmes \r\nmailto:Soulchaser@easyriders.com\r\n67.73.172.73\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=8357.79339192575504\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 21:16:58 (EDT) \r\nKOBE HQ \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.106\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=4745.456396668686\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 19:33:06 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobe@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.106\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=12747.1570966779706\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nMon, Aug 25, 2003 at 00:37:24 (EDT) \r\nKOBE Screen_Pass \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n166.90.71.168\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=8570.0523883900654\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nMon, Aug 25, 2003 at 00:35:29 (EDT) \r\nKOBE BUTT-FUCKER \r\nmailto:kobe\r\n166.90.71.168\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=4017.699284437584\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nMon, Aug 25, 2003 at 13:31:22 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.164.196\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=8071.6276146932590\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Aug 26, 2003 at 21:22:38 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.178.202\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=15453.34425740273\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Aug 26, 2003 at 21:22:53 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.178.202\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=10056.592174503534\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Aug 26, 2003 at 21:23:08 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.178.202\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=9224.988841864750510\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Aug 26, 2003 at 21:32:47 (EDT)\r\nKOBE Duke \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.178.202\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=8969.754767788114\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nWed, Aug 27, 2003 at 17:52:30 (EDT) \r\nKOBE BUTT-FUCKER \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.178.191\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=19012.521502501841\r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Aug 29, 2003 at 19:28:34 (EDT) \r\nNed Lyle\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.81\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=5276.5348493042428\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Aug 29, 2003 at 19:28:49 (EDT)\r\nNed Lyle\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.81\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=12879.374465182266\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Aug 29, 2003 at 19:29:04 (EDT) \r\nNed Lyle\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.81\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=10301.34517744775\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Aug 29, 2003 at 19:29:19 (EDT) \r\nNed Lyle\r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n67.73.161.81\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=5225.6400361559446\r\n\r\n\r\nThurs, Sep 04, 2003 at 23:36:01 (EDT) \r\nKOBE Duke\r\n67.73.180.252\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=14256.737214577899\r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Sep 12, 2003 at 00:44:29 (EDT) \r\nKOBE HQ\r\n67.73.172.2\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=8060.817079947853\r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Sep 12, 2003 at 00:44:46 (EDT) \r\nKOBE HQ \r\n67.73.172.2\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=16377.321575972725\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Sep 12, 2003 at 00:45:21 (EDT) \r\nKOBE HQ \r\n67.73.172.2\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=9755.5540483626500\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nFri, Sep 12, 2003 at 00:45:36 (EDT) \r\nKOBE HQ \r\n67.73.172.2\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=9642.1087882607251\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Sep 16, 2003 at 01:19:25 (EDT) \r\nWurm\r\n67.73.161.84\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=15236.976646452709\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Sep 16, 2003 at 01:19:40 (EDT) \r\nWurm\r\n67.73.161.84\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=14454.888122794736\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Sep 16, 2003 at 01:19:55 (EDT) \r\nWurm\r\n67.73.161.84\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=10690.4967390574302\r\n\r\n\r\nTues, Sep 16, 2003 at 01:20:10 (EDT) \r\nWurm \r\n67.73.161.84\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=10564.68509000\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:22:13","modified":"2003-10-04 20:22:13","fileurl":""},{"id":86639,"heading":"Interesting connection.","article":"(1) Some of the earliest threats I received involved statements such as "I don't live too far away, I could jump on my bike and be there in a few hours..."\r\n\r\n(2) Jack Feldhaus, the man that I believe to be behind the operation, is an avid biker.\r\n\r\n(3) There is a Michael Phillip in Tucson who is also a biker. Feldhaus lives in Tucson.\r\n\r\n(4) Joey Stanker Behr, the KOBE member from Washington State, has a picture of his prized bike on his website.\r\n\r\nCould this be a connection between KOBE members? Another associate of KOBE goes by the name "Patriot". He lives in Alaska and is a biker as well.","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:35:02","modified":"2003-10-04 20:35:02","fileurl":""},{"id":86640,"heading":"Ho hum. All that wasted space.","article":"Hostnames : dialup-67.73.172.73.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net \r\nIP Addresses : 67.73.172.73 \r\n\r\nResponding to PINGs in 220 milliseconds\r\n\r\n\r\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n\r\nNetwork Information for 67.73.172.73\r\n\r\n\r\nOrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc.\r\nOrgID: LVLT\r\nAddress: 1025 Eldorado Blvd.\r\nCity: Broomfield\r\nStateProv: CO\r\nPostalCode: 80021\r\nCountry: US\r\n\r\nNetRange: 67.72.0.0 - 67.75.255.255\r\n\r\nAll the others are from Guardster Proxy. Arent you going to "prove" something finally? We grow fatigued at your repeating posts proving nothing. KOBE is making a fool out of you.","author":"DNS Lookup","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:35:40","modified":"2003-10-04 20:35:40","fileurl":""},{"id":86642,"heading":"Hex, Hex, Hex...","article":""kobe duke is tied to "nonanarchist", so here's an actual real death threat towards Davis from YOU"\r\n\r\nOnce again, PROVE it.\r\n\r\nYou never have. You can't; there is no connection between me and any KOBE.\r\n\r\nOther than the obvious one: we all think you're a blithering idiot.\r\n\r\nAnd as far as your post immediately above:\r\n\r\nDude, you have WAY too much time on your hands.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:37:14","modified":"2003-10-04 20:37:14","fileurl":""},{"id":86647,"heading":"Why did he miss this one (from his post)?","article":"Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 16:29:04 (EDT) \r\nThe Real KOBE SBM \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com \r\n67.73.172.73 \r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=9999.5322163193530 \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n212.129.238.145 \r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 24, 2003 at 17:06:40 (EDT) \r\nThe Real Michael Holmes \r\nmailto:Soulchaser@easyriders.com \r\n67.73.172.73 \r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=8357.79339192575504 \r\n\r\n\r\nCant he see that the IP addresses are EXACTLY the same? It seems that his entire "evidence" comes from that biker board, where Michael Holmes is a Member, and where his IP address can easily be traced to his tpo.org ISP account. Hex is helping KOBE without knowing it! I hope they get Mikey.","author":"Anna","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:41:23","modified":"2003-10-04 20:41:23","fileurl":""},{"id":86648,"heading":"Hex is a retard. He just throws stuff up here without checking.","article":"After all, he still hasnt traced the IP addresses for any connections, because if he had, he would see that there is no connection. I have a totaly different ISP and am on a completely different network than Michael Holmes OR Computers NLA. This has already been gove over and over and over....Im bored, and will continue to ignore him.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:44:06","modified":"2003-10-04 20:44:06","fileurl":""},{"id":86651,"heading":"paranoia - the excuse of last resort","article":"> Therefore, I don't know if you are for real. \r\n> I have little desire to share openly at this moment. \r\n> I'm glad I waited before sharing\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's the point I made - you never have played hard ball nor shared, matter of fact you've pulled most of the info you did have posted on your web site - I was only able to obtain some of it from search engine caches.\r\n\r\n\r\nThe dirt should help anyone who sees it, especially IMC, if nothing else than to show people what he's like. By not showing what you've got you throw doubt on your credibility and enable kobe to claim you really have nothing - hell he tries to claim that even when I do post dirt on him, just like he did above - now he's actually backpeddling to claiming no kobe posted on that board at all, when he's *already admitted* that he posted from 4.3.124.190 and that it is in fact him, also he's already admitted that mike is tied to kobe (a former member)\r\n\r\nhe's backpeddled on both these facts..\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> he often constructs fake "helpers" for his victims\r\n\r\nYou or anyone else can do a search for "hex anon" on the main IMC and you will see posts and comments going WAY back and a complete and real record of a real person (me).\r\n\r\nsince I never play dishonest games like posting under any handle that strikes my mood at the time LIKE YOU DO, you can rely on the record of hundreds of "Hex anon w\/ encryption" posts to establish a well worn path of the tracks of a single, real person.\r\n\r\nThe same cannot be said for you, yet you're the one questioning ME on this point ?\r\n\r\n\r\nAgain your efforts with kobe have amounted to nothing in 2 years.\r\n\r\nHe consistantly out-smarts and out-wits you, which is why he *likes you so much*\r\n\r\nHe doesn't like me at all because he has no dirt on me and can't stalk me. In fact he's said 3 times he will be ignoring me...\r\n\r\nHe's stopped making death threats because he's afraid to.\r\nIn 2 years you never made him afraid or change anything he was doing.\r\nI accomplished this in only a month or so, by simply digging and posting damning legally binding evidence - something you've failed to do lately.\r\n\r\nAnd your abilities are in question anyway since you've accused him of being several different people (which he makes fun of)\r\n\r\nThe two of you are much more alike than you seem to realize and it's this sameness that he's able to exploit. As far as I'm concerned you're both inexperienced schoolboys cut from the same cloth, and it shows.\r\n\r\nHe's ineffective at playing at being an organization, and you're ineffective at doing anything to stop him.\r\n\r\n2 years is far FAR too long to still be *making excuses* as to why you have failed to deter him. In this light with the intentional feeding by starting new USELESS threads that taunt him, plus the paranoia that just happens to become an excuse for anything you fail to do, you become not much different than kobe himself - just wasting time playing games..\r\n\r\n\r\nI've made great gains on stopping him in a very short time and all you can say is I'm him (or connected to him)\r\n\r\nHow constructive is that ?\r\n\r\nI am able to and can provide contact info, but I would only want to post the dirt you calim to have on him - since you refuse to do so there's nothing to be gained by it, however I couldn't help notice that you clutch at any straw that you suspect is him and encourage other's to as well.\r\n\r\nThis tells me you don't really have much on him - after 2 years of effort, and your refusals and excuses are not comforting either.\r\n\r\nI bet I have more on him than you do.\r\n\r\nThe reason kobe's claims that you talk out of your ass and are full of shit have weight is strictly because you *allow* these claims to fly by failing to post dirt on him - again you're feeding him ammo to not only make you look the fool but he takes it as "open season" on other's as well.\r\n\r\nShow otherwise\r\n\r\nShow where you've made gains in the case to shut him down - even after 2 years of effort.\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:50:01","modified":"2003-10-04 20:50:01","fileurl":""},{"id":86652,"heading":"There is no point in the exercise.","article":"The reason I suggest that everyone ignore KOBE is because that is the only thing that will work against a cyber stalker. This is not a political operation. It is not a governmental operation. It is merely the case of a mentally ill individual recruiting more mentally ill individuals to engage in online harassment. Politics is a rationalization and nothing more.\r\n\r\nHex, you go back and forth toying with KOBE, but you learn nothing from it. KOBE will never provide ANY useful information. The only useful information has nothing to do with technical issues. It has to do with information flow, relational connections between individuals, and flow of funds.\r\n\r\nThe only other useful information you will obtain is by court order. I endorse that path as well. However, engaging them in conversation is just a time sink. Even worse, it gives KOBE SBM what he's looking for: a hobby.\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:51:52","modified":"2003-10-04 20:51:52","fileurl":""},{"id":86653,"heading":"I reaffirm my previous statements.","article":"I have a rule I go by with respect to activism. It is really a very simple rule, but it always seems to hold up true.\r\n\r\nAnyone that attempts to discredit an activist on a public forum, especially when anonymous, is working for the other side. You just attempted to do that. Therefore, you are working for the other side.\r\n\r\nAlso, many of your claims fit exactly in with KOBE's. The fact is, you are wrong. I have accomplished a great deal in the last two years. That's why I've taken some information offline. I know the solution to most of this problem. I do know who organized this. I do know who several of the members are. I have correctly identified many of them. I couldn't care less if KOBE "makes fun" of this. Only a KOBE would think I would care.\r\n\r\nHex goes down the path of SJD.\r\n\r\nKOBE SHILL.\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 20:57:59","modified":"2003-10-04 20:57:59","fileurl":""},{"id":86656,"heading":"Gee, Hex...","article":"Where's the proof that I'm KOBE Duke?\r\n\r\nSurely you've got it stashed somewhere on your hard drive.\r\n\r\nOr did you accidentally overwrite it with boner pictures?","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:00:59","modified":"2003-10-04 21:00:59","fileurl":""},{"id":86657,"heading":"Let's take a closer look at the math.","article":"Here is a logical proof that Hex's real purpose is to pretend to be a KOBE opponent in an effort to discredit foes of KOBE.\r\n\r\n(1) Hex refuses to do the only thing that will keep KOBE off of IMC. That one thing is to ignore him. In fact, the suggestion of ignoring KOBE so angers Hex that he accuses me of being like KOBE for suggesting it. Bad move Hex.\r\n\r\n(2) Hex engages in a form of assassination that appears to be fair but is classic KOBE. It works like this.\r\n\r\nLet ?U? be unkown party.\r\nLet Steve be known party.\r\nLet ?W? be another unknown party.\r\n\r\n?W? smears ?U?.\r\n?W? smears Steve.\r\n\r\n?W? expects everyone to judge this as even-handedness. However, since ?W? and ?U? are unknown, only Steve was smeared. Thus, it is not even handed.\r\n\r\nThis is class KOBE technique.\r\n\r\nAlso, Hex spends about as much time online has KOBE. Hex and KOBE seem to BOTH have a lot of time to spend on line. In fact, perhaps the same amount of time.\r\n\r\nI've seen this all before and I'm not impressed. I also don't believe that Ned Lyle was stupid enough to sign something "KOBE SBM" with Ned Lyle's name on it.\r\n\r\nHex's photoshop skills seem to be on a par with KOBE's.\r\n\r\nBoth seem to be very interested in networks.\r\n\r\nYou two are so much alike, I could swear you are the same person.","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:04:32","modified":"2003-10-04 21:04:32","fileurl":""},{"id":86660,"heading":"I'm a real person not connected to anyone","article":"> The only other useful information you will obtain is by court order. I endorse that path as well. However, engaging them in conversation is just a time sink. Even worse, it gives KOBE SBM what he's looking for: a hobby. \r\n\r\n\r\nI agree but also the legally damning screen captures DO have a damping effect on him, so posts by "kobe" are worth following up on with such evidence.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> Anyone that attempts to discredit an activist on a public forum, especially when anonymous, is working for the other side. You just attempted to do that. Therefore, you are working for the other side. \r\n\r\n\r\nThis is BS ! In this context you are not an activist, you are a combatant who's personally involved in this situation due to kobe going after you when you had some other web sites.\r\n\r\n"activist" is greatly up for question anyway since you did work for the government - specifically in spying on activists.\r\n\r\nOne of his first and main objections was the hyprocisy of your position..\r\n\r\n\r\n Again you're too caught up in yourself to accept honest critizism from a 3'rd party and automaticly attribute it to a person being an enemy.\r\n\r\nThis lack of vision has enabled kobe to resist your efforts thus far\r\n\r\nand this is my take on the situation *having analysed over 1000 IP's showing you playing the exact same games he does*\r\n\r\nYou might be able to get other's to believe your BS but I've seen the whole picture and there's a great amount of truth to the accusation that you and kobe are both playing a game (on-going for over 2 years now)\r\n\r\nmaybe you sincerely don't realize this but if you've seen what I've seen it would be clear to you. I only didn't stated this before to protect you, but these continued threads that openly taunt him and engage him are becoming old - especially when you only *make fun of him* without posting a damn thing concrete.\r\n\r\nthis situation stinks of fun & games for *both of you*\r\n\r\nJust because a person happens to agree with some elements of what kobe has claimed about you doesn't mean\r\n\r\n1.) said person has anything to do with or any connection to kobe\r\n2.) that his claims or observations aren't correct\r\n\r\nYour reaction also smacks of *bias brought on by personal involvement* in this situation.\r\n\r\n\r\nTry to remember somthing\r\n\r\nYOU ARE NOT THE ONLY PERSON KOBE HAS HARASSED AND THREATENED\r\n\r\nyet you act like you are all that matters in exposing him\/releasing the dirt you have on him.\r\n\r\nYour agenda of engaging him yet refusing to post dirt on him *isn't helping anyone* other than possibly yourself (for a future lawsuit)\r\n\r\nThat's the main point I'm trying to make - your activities related to kobe is *not helping IMC*\r\n\r\nAnd that's where my connection lies - my history on the main IMC *proves that*\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:17:37","modified":"2003-10-04 21:17:37","fileurl":""},{"id":86661,"heading":"I've had enough for tonight.","article":"I'm not going to let KOBE (i.e. KOBE *, nonanarchist, daveman, fresca, Rational Normal Person, Hex) suck up my time.\r\n\r\nSweet Dreams.","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:18:22","modified":"2003-10-04 21:18:22","fileurl":""},{"id":86662,"heading":"Glad I stayed on for a moment.","article":"""activist" is greatly up for question anyway since you did work for the government - specifically in spying on activists."\r\n\r\nABSOLUTELY FALSE!!!!!!!\r\n\r\nHow on Earth did you come up with that one? Once again, YOU ARE A KOBE.\r\n\r\nI worked for a defense contractor that was hired to work on two projects for the IAO: EELD and BioSurveillance. The first was to detect links between terrorists and terrorist activities and the second was to detect releases or biological weapons. NEITHER OF THESE had ANYTHING TO DO with activists.\r\n\r\nThe only thing that could have had anything to do with activists was an NSA request for a project to conduct cyber warefare against opponents of the government. WE TURNED IT DOWN ON MY RECOMMENDATION.\r\n\r\nSo, HEX, I consider you exposed.\r\n\r\nYou are working for the other side.\r\n\r\nAs for being an activist, define activist. I attend plenty of demonstrations and play an active role in activism.\r\n\r\nONCE AGAIN: You are smearing the left. That makes you an enemy of the left.\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:23:20","modified":"2003-10-04 21:23:20","fileurl":""},{"id":86664,"heading":"BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I fucking KNEW it!","article":"So Hex now sees the madness of Stephen DeVoy, and finally gets accused of being a KOBE, just like I said he would.\r\n\r\nI dont like either of you, but at least KOBE respects the fact that Stephen DeVoy does his homework. His IP page at http:\/\/www.breakyourchains.org\/brownshirt_ip.htm CORRECTLY identifies IP addresses with their correct ISP\/Hosts. It shows that he actually traced the sources and has made educated (but incorrect) guesses about most of them. There is some method to the madness, as there were. Also, KOBE knows that Stevie Dee is a college graduate with a graduate degree (most KOBE members are well educated).\r\n\r\nHex, you have insinuated yourself in a conflict which is political, and technical in nature. It goes way beyond anything you are even remotely aware of. You are only involved because I have burst your front as the resident "tech geek", and exposed you as a fake and a wannabe computer guru. You in fact know very little. MUCH less than DeVoy (who has a degree in Computer Science). You cant even do the most basic tasks, like tracing IP addresses to hostnames and ISPs.\r\n\r\nKOBE is fighting anarchists, Islamic Fundamentalists, and seditionists....not individual morons like you. You dont have any websites, you dont express any political ideaologies, and you arent in the street passing out idiotic anti-Bush bumper stickers. KOBE is too clever for you, and when Stevie says that you will get no useful information about us, he is right. It would have been far wiser for you to ally with him (he sure needs allies!), then to become his enemy. Now you are all by yourself, with nothing going for you except rudimentary computer skills from 20 years ago (TUBES???) BWAHAHAHAHA! An army of one against a 21st Century crew like KOBE? (chuckle).","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:25:38","modified":"2003-10-04 21:25:38","fileurl":""},{"id":86665,"heading":"Two theories on HEX.","article":"I went too far to immediately accuse him of being a KOBE. Here are my two working theories:\r\n\r\n(1) HEX is a KOBE.\r\n(2) HEX is working for a COINTELPRO operation.\r\n\r\nIn case of (1), HEX and KOBE are on the same side.\r\n\r\nIn case of (2), HEX is attempting to provoke conflict in the hope that he can discredit the left and\/or find a reason to have one of the parties arrested.\r\n\r\nSeen it all before.\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:29:23","modified":"2003-10-04 21:29:23","fileurl":""},{"id":86666,"heading":"About SJD.","article":"SJD used to do what Hex is doing now.\r\n\r\nI took SJD's IP addresses and traced them. I found all other users that were using exactly the same set of IP addresses. I identified several handles for SJD. From these handles I investigated further and discovered that he was working for the FBI.\r\n\r\nHe also sent me the name of an FBI agent to call. Same first name as SJD. It was a useless conversation. I think the agent was SJD.\r\n\r\nSJD did all he could to provoke conflict between KOBE and I.\r\n\r\nYou do the math.\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:32:20","modified":"2003-10-04 21:32:20","fileurl":""},{"id":86668,"heading":"READ THIS CAREFULLY, HEX","article":"You have the IPs of the person who posted the so-called death threats, right? All you have to do is to tie it to ANY of the 1000 posts you say you have "researched". YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT. Why? Because the person who posted the threats is Michael C. Holmes. KOBE has NEVER posted any death threat anywhere on the internet. If the threats have stopped, the you have affected Michael Holmes, NOT KOBE. We are doing whatever the fuck we want to do, and you have had absolutely NO effect whatsoever.\r\n\r\nYou keep posting that you have "gotten much more done", and that "you have more information than DeVoy", when in reality, you both have ZERO.\r\n\r\nBWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! COINTELPRO at its finest!","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:36:38","modified":"2003-10-04 21:36:38","fileurl":""},{"id":86669,"heading":"How the FBI works with KOBE.","article":"This SJD would send me emails asking me to join him in attacks on KOBE. He would also suggest malicious online activities that I believe are illegal. I would always refuse.\r\n\r\nSJD created an online forum. He chose the initials SJD so that some people would think I owned it. When people thought I owned his forum, he tried to continue the ruse. This accounts for KOBE HQ's use of "SJD" as my initials. SJD created the forum to antagonize KOBE and direct their anger at me.\r\n\r\nThe FBI is part of all of this. The question is whether they are with KOBE or whether they are simply trying to egg KOBE on in the hope to bring charges against both KOBE and myself.\r\n\r\nUnlike KOBE, I'm not stupid.","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:39:10","modified":"2003-10-04 21:39:10","fileurl":""},{"id":86670,"heading":"DeVoy you're being self-destructive","article":"> Hex refuses to do the only thing that will keep KOBE off of IMC. That one thing is to ignore him. In fact, the suggestion of ignoring KOBE so angers Hex that he accuses me of being like KOBE for suggesting it. Bad move Hex. \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nNo, I agree with that - the best thing to do IS to ignore him.\r\n\r\nHowever I've found lately that posting *legally damning dirt* is *even more effective* - it's not set in stone though on how to handle him - I'm open to suggestions and willing to adjust to what other's want.\r\n\r\nThis is a rather big issue however so a word from the person who runs this IMC would be in order otherwise there's no way to tell who it is making the suggestion.\r\n\r\nBut note that I am flexible and am willing to go along with the wishes of others - after all - it's not MY IMC... If I went against this IMC's wishes I would then be a troll (or worse)\r\n\r\n\r\nAnger is not accurate - I've simply questioned the validity of "@" when "@" posts as so many other handles as well - because of *your handle games* there's no way for me to tell who in the hell is posting - I can only go by the *content* of the posts and in that context demands to "ignore" kobe considering his postion with the dirt I've posted may very well be comming from HIM.\r\n\r\nBeing aware of this you're attempting to engage in hyperbole to say otherwise...\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> smears Steve. \r\n\r\nIf you take honest critizism as "smear" and that any "smears" automaticly mean the person is "kobe" or whoever, that's a personality defect.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> expects everyone to judge this as even-handedness\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's simply my *opinion*. Ypu know I could post IP's and screen shots *proving* you were doing the same shit kobe was - thus showing your not much better than he is - but that wouldn't help matters and would be smearing (even if true, I still consider it a type of smearing)\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> Hex spends about as much time online has KOBE. Hex and KOBE seem to BOTH have a lot of time to spend on line. In fact, perhaps the same amount of time. \r\n\r\n\r\nI can spend as much or as little time on-line as I like, kobe cannot. I could be right here 24 hours a day if I cared to... The amount of time I allocate to posting dirt on kobe is directly related to the number of kobe posts I've seen - as I've already stated..\r\n\r\n\r\n> I also don't believe that Ned Lyle was stupid enough to sign something "KOBE SBM" with Ned Lyle's name on it. Hex's photoshop skills seem to be on a par with KOBE's. \r\n\r\n\r\nThis is quite telling considering I posted the original URL as well so you can *go see for yourself*. But beyond that it doesn't matter whether you\/he or anyone here thinks ned did it - the point is if *any* kobe did it the hammer falls on any\/all kobes.\r\n\r\nand *NOTHING* I've posted has been faked.\r\n\r\nIt's very interesting that kobe persona's have been (up to now) the only ones to claim otherwise (even the Rabbi pictures were said to be, when again I provided the *original URL* to go see for yourself.\r\n\r\nodd\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n> Both seem to be very interested in networks. \r\n\r\nYou two are so much alike, I could swear you are the same person.\r\n\r\nI can't help that my path has taken me into networking but the type of work I do is completely different than kobe's is. I do hardware, design and invent..\r\n\r\nHe does only software and doesn't even do that very well, plus he doesn't know a damn thing about hardware...\r\n\r\nI can post pictures of the operations room - a nest of wires with open circuits and equipmenmt everywhere - very messy and very poor man...\r\n\r\nKobe is totally different - he has only newer equipment all buttoned up with wires hidden and doesn't do hardware at all, plus he's got big money tied up into his equipment whereas mine is pieced together from everything from old inventory to dumpster diving. (all poor man stuff)\r\n\r\nIt's stupid to even make such an accusation...\r\n\r\n\r\nI don't even have photoshop either, something much older called photostacker (11 years old) I could obtain and run photoshop but I'm used to photostacker and it's small - only a few MB's...\r\n\r\n(I hate bloatware)\r\n\r\nI am willing to go along with what this IMC says, and willing to provide contact info to show you are in fact dealing with a real person and not some kobe persona..\r\n\r\nThe history of my posts on IMC are quite extensive and if you go back over them (like kobe did) you would see how wrong you are to even suggest I'm on "the other side".\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:47:45","modified":"2003-10-04 21:47:45","fileurl":""},{"id":86671,"heading":"Hex the cop interrogating KOBE.","article":"Let's assume that Hex is working for the FBI (of course, he could be a KOBE shill). Under this assumption, Hex's technique looks like this:\r\n\r\n(1) Create fabricated evidence against KOBE.\r\n(2) Confront KOBE with it in an attempt to get KOBE to crack.\r\n(3) Force KOBE to prove he did not post the fabricated evidence, thus obtaining more information on KOBE through the explanation.\r\n\r\nI am all in favor of arresting KOBE and throwing him in jail. However, I do not believe, even for one second, that Ned Lyle would be stupid enough to post a message with both the names "Ned Lyle" and the name "KOBE SBM" on it. Nor do I believe the FBI would be stupid enough to believe he would do this either.\r\n\r\nI do believe the KOBE is reponsible for death threats. I have published many of them online and they ARE STILL online.\r\n\r\nThe one that Hex is peddling is a fake. This calls Hex in to question.\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:49:55","modified":"2003-10-04 21:49:55","fileurl":""},{"id":86672,"heading":"OH MY GOD!!!! This is fucking great!","article":"You mean to tell me that the forum at http:\/\/forum.asiaco.com\/sjd1 is NOT endorsed by Stephen DeVoy??? All this time, KOBE thought that SJD and DeVoy were in the "resistance" together. Now, it comes to light that there has been a rift between you two all this time? That you think he's a KOBE too??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! \r\n\r\nIf that is true, then what is that Hyperboard all about? This is fucking GREAT! Now that Hex is a KOBE, I wonder if he will think twice about what he is supporting. A paranoid moron who accuses anyone who disagrees with EVERY LITTLE THING he says of being a KOBE?\r\n\r\nBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:50:13","modified":"2003-10-04 21:50:13","fileurl":""},{"id":86673,"heading":"Enough of this wastage.","article":"There exists the possibility that Hex is for real. However, Hex, I want you to see how easy it is to draw conclusions on partial evidence. If you don't want me to do that to you, don't do it to me.\r\n\r\nI will decide where and when to release the data I have on KOBE. A great deal of it is already online and available to those with a user ID and password.\r\n\r\nI believe that I have correctly discovered the nature of the KOBE operation. KOBE will deny it, but I am sure that I am correct.\r\n\r\nThe KOBE operation is the fusion of three threads. The first thread is that of a psychotic ex-boss with a vendetta. He is one of the individuals that posted as KOBE HQ.\r\n\r\nAnother thread is a JDL\/anti-Jihadist thread drawn from activist Jews, Zionist Christians, and a hodge-podge or warmongering ex-military trolls. They already had their own agenda when the ex-boss with a vendetta recruited them to add me to their list of targets.\r\n\r\nThe third thread is the "general online psychopath" thread. KOBE's website is designed to attract mental defectives. These are recruited and used for moronic harassment operations.\r\n\r\nThe possible fourth thread (only possible and therefore left out of the original count) is the FBI. The FBI is involved, but exactly how is not clear. They are either playing both sides against each other or they are assisting KOBE. I sure as hell know they are not assisting me.\r\n\r\nGood night.","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:56:25","modified":"2003-10-04 21:56:25","fileurl":""},{"id":86674,"heading":"No, Hex is NOT working with the FBI. If he were, we would know it.","article":"You already know that we have connections, and we would know about any FBI activity. The fact is, that KOBE is not responsible for any death threats posted on the internet, even the ones you say we are, Stevie. Hex is working alone, and he is even more arrogant than you are. He thinks that his rudimentary skills can "get" us? BWAHAHAHAHA! Even YOU know better than that, now dont you Stevie Dee?\r\n\r\nNo, Hex is definitely NOT a KOBE. He is far too stupid, and he doesnt have enough technical skill to ever be a KOBE. If he were ex-military (like Michael Holmes was), that might make up for the lack of technical ability, but he isnt. KOBE no longer accepts non-technically savvy associates. Its bad for our image.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:56:44","modified":"2003-10-04 21:56:44","fileurl":""},{"id":86675,"heading":"Laugh KOBE, Laugh","article":"Read carefully what I wrote. SJD is working for the FBI. The question of whether he's associated with you is still up in the air.\r\n\r\nSJD = FBI\r\n\r\nRepeat that over and over in head until it sinks in.\r\nI know it to be true.","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 21:59:21","modified":"2003-10-04 21:59:21","fileurl":""},{"id":86676,"heading":"cheap accusations - go see for yourself","article":"1) HEX is a KOBE. \r\n(2) HEX is working for a COINTELPRO operation. \r\n\r\n\r\nThis is paranoid bullshit\r\n\r\nGo to the main IMC and put "hex anon" into the search (make sure to go to the 2'nd search page where you're able to get it to show comments since I mostly only comment)\r\n\r\nYou'll see thousands of hits going back years...\r\n\r\nI started with IMC not much after it began - some of the earlyest posts are from me, I operate more than one pirate transmitters, I air shows like "Unwelcome Guests" - I have every show saved on CD's\r\n\r\nI make illegal huge blocks of music and *share them* with people on P2P and on IMC\r\n\r\nAnd some people in IMC know who and where I am due to the feeds for live brodcasts during protests again going all the way back to the beginning of IMC\r\n\r\n\r\nIt's foolish and destructive to accuse other activists when you have not a shred of evidence and in fact there's plenty of evidence to show otherwise - I've pointed you directly to it to see for yourself\r\n\r\nI never accused you of being kobe or of being a government spy - I simply said your background of working for what was becoming TIA isn't very reassuring when compared to MY background of doing illegal activities *all my life*, which is still on-going.\r\n\r\nI do these things simply to help people - for thier pleasure... (song blocks recently)\r\n\r\nMy only worry is IMC getting any heat from them which in that case they'll want to delete them. At least they were up for awhile so people could copy them to their own HD's\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:04:53","modified":"2003-10-04 22:04:53","fileurl":""},{"id":86677,"heading":"SJD=LIAR","article":"We have "connections" with which you already suspect, and I will not confirm them here. Those assumptions are correct. Therefore, I can say without hesitation that SJD=FAKE. She is NOT with the FBI, and KOBE knows that for a fact.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:05:38","modified":"2003-10-04 22:05:38","fileurl":""},{"id":86679,"heading":"Hex, forget it. Your cover is blown.","article":"Okay, we admit it. Hex is a KOBE, and his name is on our members page right here: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/members.htm\r\n\r\nThis is unfortunate because we have had Hex posting away here at LA-IMC since "way back". You can also see his name on our Forums Membership roster. Since he has betrayed us as well, we will be kicking him out ASAP.","author":"KOBE KENOBI","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:10:44","modified":"2003-10-04 22:10:44","fileurl":""},{"id":86680,"heading":"False.","article":""It's foolish and destructive to accuse other activists"\r\n\r\nYou are anonymous. Nothing said against you is destructive. Think about it. You are only REAL if you use your REAL identity or your REAL identity is known.\r\n\r\nYou threw the first stone. You threw it at a REAL person.\r\n\r\nAs for "paranoia", you sound just like KOBE. I have two years of evidence that I have been under attack, stalked, harassed, and threatened. Anyone that would not be hyper careful under such circumstances would be stupid. I have every reason to be suspicious of unknown characters on the Internet. To expect differently of me is pure ignorance.\r\n\r\nMy history goes back to the late 1980s, with regard to activism. None of that is anonymous.\r\n\r\nIn any case, you remind me of someone back in Boston that has made similar remarks. I don't trust him either.\r\n\r\nI really am signing off now.\r\n\r\nGood night.","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:10:50","modified":"2003-10-04 22:10:50","fileurl":""},{"id":86681,"heading":"RE: SJD=LIAR","article":"SJD did not tell me anything. I have evidence of my claims. I came to this conclusion on my own. I am certain that I am correct.\r\n\r\nGOOD NIGHT!","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:12:51","modified":"2003-10-04 22:12:51","fileurl":""},{"id":86682,"heading":"Good Night, Steve.....(whispering)...SJD is not with the FBI.....goodnight.!...","article":"nya nya nya....I got the last word!","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:21:15","modified":"2003-10-04 22:21:15","fileurl":""},{"id":86683,"heading":"DeVoy & Hex","article":"Are you two comrades of the same activist community who is going to overthrow capitalism? Cause I don't see any reason for any of us to expect any major happenings soon.","author":"poster","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:26:00","modified":"2003-10-04 22:26:00","fileurl":""},{"id":86685,"heading":"liars assume everyone lies","article":"> A paranoid moron who accuses anyone who disagrees with EVERY LITTLE THING he says of being a KOBE? \r\n\r\nWell I have to say he's acting mighty paranoid - I have a solid and long history on IMC after all...\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> If you don't want me to do that to you, don't do it to me. \r\n\r\n\r\nAgain your use of multible handles along with tossing truth out the window whenever it suits you doesn't help matters.\r\n\r\nand voicing an *opinion* about how effective you've been at stopping kobe is completely different than accusing me of being kobe\/an agent\r\n\r\nthere's nothing worse you could do\r\n\r\nand this ned lyle kobe post IS REAL - I posted not only a screen shot but also the *original URL* to see it on-line yourself.\r\n\r\nwho posted it is up for question but so far it's only fallen to mike which kobe admitted is (was) with kobe\r\n\r\na kobe is a kobe is a kobe\r\n\r\n\r\nI'm not playing games with you DeVoy - if you think an honest critique of your efforts deserves the ultimate low-blow (accuse of being an agent\/ an ememy of activists) then I have to say your sense of justice is badly skewed. After all you can't deny that you've been playing the same games kobe has - I have proof of it, I was only keeping it to myself to be nice since I am trying to help - not only you (to be perfectly honest I feel sorry for the way kobe's treated you and it seems like he's gotten by with it too without repercussions) but also to help IMC get rid of a dangerous and harmful troll\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nKobe is ned lyle\r\n\r\nthere's a few other's "playing" kobe - tied into LGF amd a few other boards - 3 or 4 people at best and all trolls and otherwise defective\r\n\r\nthe ned lyle = kobe post is real - the only question is who posted it, but in any case it's on kobe\r\n\r\nbeing such a serious crime an investigation has been started\r\n\r\nthat's all there is to say - all we can do is wait and see what happens, the post traces back to SOMEONE and if that person has any connection with kobe than kobehq.com is the *very next* suspect down the line. this includes compnla and ned..\r\n\r\nthis post - whoever made it - will sink kobe, one way or another\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nJDL\/anti-Jihadist \/ FBI\r\n\r\n\r\nAs far as I'm concerned all this is bullshit as well. It's just him trying to puff up his importance and discourage people from filing complaints on him...\r\n\r\nin any case since I approach this from a postion of complete anonymity it doesn't matter to me at all whether kobe is more than just ned - despite all of kobe's claims I've don't nothing wrong and have nothing to worry about. The same cannot be said about DeVoy - the dirt I've found shows he was doing much the same activities as kobe - to make kobe seem worse and to *egg him on*\r\n\r\nthere's no reason to do this unless you have some hidden motive you're not sharing, and in my book there's no excuse for such dishonesty.\r\n\r\nso yes the post is real and yes I've never faked screen shots or photographs and yes I do only post as myself and yes I do have a solid history to back this up\r\n\r\nI'm proud of my honesty and stick to it based on personal values and morals. People who don't love to drag other's down to their level - liars wish to make everyone liars - to make lying easyer and so they don't stand out as liars. liars tend to see the world (and other people) through lie-tinted glasses - they assume because they lie everyone else does too\r\n\r\n\r\nI invite you to go see proof of my honesty on-line stretching back years..\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:33:31","modified":"2003-10-04 22:33:31","fileurl":""},{"id":86686,"heading":"You are on KOBE's Members List. Please Explain.","article":"Second one up from the bottom http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/members.htm and you have a star by your name as well. And the coveted pirate flag. I dont believe you.\r\n\r\nHex=KOBE","author":"@","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:37:59","modified":"2003-10-04 22:37:59","fileurl":""},{"id":86687,"heading":"Michael C. Holmes is not a KOBE.","article":"He was a member for about a week, last year, long before the post he made on that bikers forum. We have proof of him spamming the KOBE Forum, as well as www.bianca.com, and our report to the FBI that he attempted to hack our website. He alone is responsible for posting that death threat, and he alone will pay.","author":"KOBE","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:41:13","modified":"2003-10-04 22:41:13","fileurl":""},{"id":86688,"heading":"pebble v. a boulder","article":"I offered a pebble of opinion on the effectiveness and wisdom of starting new threads just for kobe (troll baiting him)\r\n\r\nIn return you attempted to crush me under the boulder of "agent"\r\n\r\nyour response is way out of porportion especially considering the failue to do any background\r\n\r\nI have a very solid reason to stay anon - pirate stations, this reason is accepted in IMC and in fact some there do know me anyway...\r\n\r\n\r\n> comrades of the same activist community who is going to overthrow capitalism\r\n\r\n\r\nthe activist community is diverse - that's one of the elements of it's success. I have no desire to overthrow anything - I believe in allowing the system to collapse on it's own then picking up the pieces. I consider the masses to be responsible for the current state of affairs so it's only natural the system will go down on the very people who raised it up in the first place (mostly via taxes) once the system collapses the tax base is gone - it's a self-correcting feature of capitalism...\r\n\r\ncapitalism containts the seeds of it's own failure built-in - it has no future outside of this age where the earth's resources haven't quite been depleted\r\n\r\nin the next few years we will see clear signs of this collapse...\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:48:17","modified":"2003-10-04 22:48:17","fileurl":""},{"id":86689,"heading":"So you see, "Hex", the lead post shows how quickly tables turn","article":"The lead post is entitled "How to drive KOBE SBM insane", yet in a single day KOBE has managed to not only make a fool out of you (with your help, of course), but KOBE has successfully used COINTELPRO to create a rift between you and DeVoy. He even revealed a rift which we knew we had accomplished, but was not confirmed until today: SJD and DeVoy are no longer associated. \r\n\r\nHow will you react when your pumped up "100% sure" Ned Lyle is KOBE theory falls into dust as it must? There is absolutely no connection, and you cannot prove otherwise. KOBE is pleased about your claimed investigation. Michael Holmes has proven to be quite a nuisance, and we will be glad to get rid of him once and for all. Most security measures at KOBE Headquarters because of his repeated hacking and spamming attempts.\r\n\r\nCome on back to Headquarters and report in. The gig is up.","author":"KOBE","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:53:46","modified":"2003-10-04 22:53:46","fileurl":""},{"id":86690,"heading":"kobehq.com is a honeypot","article":"I won't even visit kobe honeypot - he can place anything he likes in it.\r\n\r\nI strongly recommend people do NOT visit there because he's collecting IP's, MAC's and can access your HD and obtain your real name and other personal info\r\n\r\n\r\n> And the coveted pirate flag. I dont believe you. \r\n\r\nI don't give a shit whether you do or not - people in #radio know better and that's all that counts.\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:53:48","modified":"2003-10-04 22:53:48","fileurl":""},{"id":86691,"heading":"You mean the babes? They are honeys!","article":"Nice women on the site. What is a honeypot on a site? Cant any website collect IP addresses? This one does. http:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/process\/privacy.php\r\n","author":"Maggot","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 22:59:45","modified":"2003-10-04 22:59:45","fileurl":""},{"id":86692,"heading":"more "success stories" and lies","article":"> KOBE has successfully used COINTELPRO to create a rift between you and DeVoy\r\n\r\nThere was already a "rift" - it's that he's been ineffective for 2 years and my IP analysis shows him playing the same games he whines about you doing\r\n\r\nI simply enumerated it.. at my choice\r\n\r\nkobe posting as "@" and any other handle never escapes my attention and everything I say is bait\r\n\r\nthe sudden calls for not posting the proof alone raised flags, with no official word or action from IMC I assume *everything* ever posted on here is potentionally kobe\r\n\r\nalways\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 23:00:12","modified":"2003-10-04 23:00:12","fileurl":""},{"id":86694,"heading":"honeypot - hostile website","article":"> Cant any website collect IP addresses? This one does. \r\n\r\n\r\nKobe does far more than that - he attempts to access any information he can get, real name, address, passwords, credit card numbers, bank account passwords, etc\r\n\r\njust like a hacker - anything he can get his hands on.\r\n\r\nand all you have to do is visit kobehq.com - even once - for him to do it\r\n\r\nvery dangerous because you then place your trust in whatever he chooses to do with it\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 23:05:48","modified":"2003-10-04 23:05:48","fileurl":""},{"id":86695,"heading":"I got news for you, bub.","article":"You will fare no better than he did, and two years from now, there will be another "Hex \/ DeVoy" to replace you. Forget about using the term "IP analysis". If you really could perform one, you wouldnt be posting IP "information" which clearly shows you to be pathetically wrong, and posting diagrams which actually highlight your mistakes. You are even less challenging than DeVoy...you are the small fish we threw back.","author":"KOBE","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 23:07:10","modified":"2003-10-04 23:07:10","fileurl":""},{"id":86696,"heading":"ROFL","article":""and yes all handles in the list are to be ignored - not that they are either kobe or the same\/one person but that they are all TROOLS and time sinks \r\n(deny at all costs - like that cellphone thread, TECHNICALLY IMPOSSIBLE to reach a tower from 35,000' yet fresca blind 11 - as always - denies just for the sake of denying... "\r\n\r\n\r\nNow, all of a sudden, we're NOT all the same person...just "trools".\r\n\r\nAnd hex still believes the IMC fairy tails about planes being incommudacado while in flight...even though people get calls from them.\r\n\r\nJackass.","author":"fresca","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 23:07:27","modified":"2003-10-04 23:07:27","fileurl":""},{"id":86697,"heading":"Of course he does, fresca!","article":"After all, he built an entire space station our of "perf board" all tied together with his homemade "cords" and manned entirely by "trools". It can chain proxies and used "free space infrared lasers" to communicate with "double anon" agents working at Area 51 with aliens from Andromeda. Who knew?","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 23:11:44","modified":"2003-10-04 23:11:44","fileurl":""},{"id":86699,"heading":"what ? you say kobehq.com is NOT a honeypot ?","article":"And he can't invade your computer and do whatever he likes ?\r\n\r\n"Just by surfing the Web with Internet Explorer, attackers can install anything, at will, on your system and you won't even know it," said Dunham. By exploiting the vulnerabilities, "attackers can use any kind of HTML content to install a Trojan." \r\n\r\nsaid Ken Dunham, the director of malicious code for iDefense, a 5-year-old company that specializes in security intelligence and provides information to clients through partners such as British Telecom and Japan's Itochu Corp.\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 23:18:29","modified":"2003-10-04 23:18:29","fileurl":""},{"id":86700,"heading":"Once again, ANTIQUATED knowledge.","article":"1.) If you are running Internet Explorer 6, or are running Windows 2000 or later with Service Pack 2, then any such exploits are thwarted.\r\n\r\n3.) Most of KOBE Headquarters pages are written in ASP (Active Server Pages), not HTML. Completely different animal.\r\n\r\n2.) Why would KOBE wish to run "code" on somebody's computer? What would one do with the information?\r\n\r\n3.) From the stat reports at KOBE Headquarters, most visitors are using IE6 or Mozilla (the Linux based browser). There are AOL browsers and Opera also being used. \r\n\r\n4.) YOU ARE A RETARD. Because I make so much money, I dont need to steal anyone's information or credit card shit. THAT IS ILLEGAL. No matter, thousands of visitors are enjoying KOBE Headquarters each day, and you are not missed.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 23:36:19","modified":"2003-10-04 23:36:19","fileurl":""},{"id":86701,"heading":"from TODAY'S CURRENT NEWS","article":"> ANTIQUATED knowledge.\r\n\r\n\r\nToday - Friday oct 3'rd 2003\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/s\/78606\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/story.news.yahoo.com\/fc?cid=34&tmpl=fc&in=Tech&cat=Hackers_and_Crackers\r\n\r\nYahoo! News Fri, Oct 03, 2003 \r\n\r\nLatest Developments \r\n\r\nInternet Explorer Vulnerability Exploited Again \r\n\r\n(TechWeb) - Vulnerabilities in Microsoft's Internet Explorer Web\r\n browser have been exploited again, security experts said on Thursday,\r\n this time by a Trojan horse that redirected traffic from more than 100\r\n popular Web sites to an IP address designated by the attacker. The \r\nTrojan, dubbed Qhosts and Delude.B by various anti-virus vendors, \r\nredirected traffic on compromised machines from a large number of \r\nlegitimate sites--primarily search engines, among them those found at \r\nAltaVista, Google, Lycos, MSN, and Yahoo. According to Computer \r\nAssociates, requests to surf to those search sites were shunted instead \r\nto a Web site that was taken offline within 24 hours of the Trojan's \r\nappearance. More... \r\n\r\n\r\ntoday's current news on today's current IE browser, so much for being \r\nantiquated !\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nand for why would you - bla bla bla\r\n\r\nthat's not the point - the point is why would anyone TRUST YOU NOT TO\r\n\r\nQuestion - do you want kobe to have your personal information, to plant trojans and bounce death threats off your computer so they will TRACE BACK TO YOU ?\r\n\r\n(he's admitted to doing just this already in order to save his own skin)\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-04 23:45:30","modified":"2003-10-04 23:45:30","fileurl":""},{"id":86704,"heading":"Whatever. You are merely a bug on my screen. Go away.","article":"Nobody gives a shit about anything you say, ree-tard. You have made too many mistakes, and you have proven yourself to be lame.","author":"KOBE","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-05 00:30:23","modified":"2003-10-05 00:30:23","fileurl":""},{"id":86705,"heading":"imagine that ! kobe telling IMC patrons to go away !","article":"whatever you say "sarge"...\r\n\r\nhey - oct 15'th is coming soon, then I'll be "wrong"\r\n\r\nbut wait - I already am wrong, you just said to yourself.\r\n\r\nof course kobe would never LIE and we should believe and TRUST HIM since he's got the best interests of IMC patrons in mind - just ask Sherman !\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-05 00:37:30","modified":"2003-10-05 00:37:30","fileurl":""},{"id":86708,"heading":"KOBE runs 6 IMC sites worldwide. Go figure.","article":"You act as if they are on Mt Olympus! IMC sites are easy and free...of course you have to invest some money, but KOBE has plenty of it.......GO AWAY.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":86481,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-05 01:38:25","modified":"2003-10-05 01:38:25","fileurl":""}]}