{"article":{"id":85135,"heading":"What Liberals Believe","author":"Rich Lowry","created":"2003-09-28 10:42:54","modified":"2003-09-29 01:51:16","last_modified":"Mon, 29 Sep 2003 08:51:16","article":"

A presidential primary is a way for a political party to make up its mind. Through the process of nominating a candidate, a party figures out its stances on the new issues and what adjustments, if any, it will make in its positions on the old. So with that, through their collective rhetoric and actions, the 10 Democratic candidates have arrived at the outlines of a rough philosophy -- the credo of the Democrats of '04.



This credo is often nonsensical and hypocritical, but it is clearly discernible. The Democrats of '04 believe:

That wars should be authorized, but never fought.

That the United Nations is the world's last, best hope, and every jot of its writ should always be respected, unless it inconveniences Saddam Hussein.



That nation-building is always a humanitarian and just cause, unless it is undertaken in Iraq.



That anyone who said Saddam had weapons of mass destruction prior to the war was lying, unless his or her name is Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Madeleine Albright, Bill Cohen, John Kerry or Joe Lieberman, or the person ever served in the Clinton cabinet or as a Democratic senator.



That French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin is always right.

That President Bush isn't devoting enough resources to the reconstruction of Iraq, and that -- in light of his $87 billion aid proposal -- he is devoting far too many resources to the reconstruction of Iraq.



That George Bush maneuvering the United States into war is an act of manipulative genius, and also is very stupid.



That (fill in blank with latest conflict here) is another Vietnam.



That the U.S. military is overextended -- and should be smaller.



That unilateral U.S. diplomatic pressure is always wrong, unless it is brought to bear on Israel.



That it is absolutely necessary for the cause of clean government for candidates to abide by the limits set by the presidential public-financing system, unless they -- like Kerry and Howard Dean -- have enough money not to.

That big money corrupts politics, unless it is big money raised by California Gov. Gray Davis.



That punch-card ballots are a travesty of justice, unless they elect a Democrat (as they did in California just one year ago).



That Bush is bankrupting the federal government, but is a tightfisted ogre for countenancing only a $400 billion new prescription-drug benefit.



That Bush is fiscally profligate, but isn't spending enough on education, \"first responders,\" health care or anything else not called \"defense.\"



That the nation cannot afford the pending retirement of the baby boomers, but the baby boomers should get more benefits for their pending retirements.

That Bush is responsible for an economic downturn that began before he was elected and that Clinton is responsible for an economic recovery that began before he was elected (here at last -- a kind of consistency!).



That small-business owners are the heart of the economy unless they succeed, at which point they become \"the rich.\"



That it is evil to be rich, unless you got that way by marrying Teresa Heinz.

That it is wrong to be a millionaire, unless you got that way by suing people.



That the sons of the upper-crust Northeastern elite are always and everywhere out-of-touch, unless they are named Howard Dean.

That it is unseemly to mix military matters with politics,



but you should vote for FORMER GENERAL Wesley Clark, and salute when you do so.



That a deranged candidate should not be elected president, unless he is named Bob Graham.



That no child should be left behind, unless it is in an urban public-school system.



That no child should be left behind, unless it is in the womb.



That the Patriot Act is denying Americans their liberties, and John Kerry, Joe Lieberman, John Edwards or Bob Graham should be elected president after having voted for it.



That deposing John Ashcroft would be preferable to deposing Mullah Omar.



That library records are sacred, but the Constitution -- a \"living document\" subject to manipulation by judges -- is not.





<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Rich Lowry is editor of National Review and he has a deep understanding of Democrats and Liberals","numcomment":20,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/09\/85135.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":85146,"heading":"Wow!","article":"Lowrey nailed it!\r\n\r\nPerhaps someday, there will be a cure for the psychosis known as "The Democratic Party".\r\n\r\nOh, wait! There already is!\r\n\r\nIt's called "common sense".","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 11:22:06","modified":"2003-09-28 11:22:06","fileurl":""},{"id":85147,"heading":"Liberal 'Philosophy"","article":"I'd like to add another to the list that IMC liberals love... That George Bush is at once a complete imbecile yet managed to design and execute a brilliant covert attack on the World Trade Center, in a conspiracy involving hundreds of people, and was so good at it he has yet to be caught. ","author":"Reality Check","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 11:42:17","modified":"2003-09-28 11:42:17","fileurl":""},{"id":85162,"heading":"More Cheap Labor Conservative Clap-trap","article":"Yea cheap labor conservatives are for leaving no child behind unlesss it is a minority\r\ncheap labor conservatives believe that abortion is wrong so they can keep women in the category of brood mares\r\ncheap labor consevatives believe that politics and war mix easily unless your the president who skipped out on his own tour of duty with the texas air national guard to keep the North Vietnamese from invading texass\r\ncheap labor conservatives believe that tax cuts are good for the economy especially the economies of the off-shore countries where they hide there skimmed off corporate profits\r\ncheap labor conservatives believe in personal responsibility unless we find out they lied about WMD then they blame someone far down in the chain of command\r\ncheap labor conservatives believe in the environment so that they can pollute,pillage and profit from it \r\ncheap labor conservatives believe this is the greatest country in the world so that they can piss on every other country\r\ncheap labor conservatives believe war is great so most of them ducked out of serving their country(perle,wolfowitz,cheney,bush,limbaugh(with an anal cyst,lol)schwarzenegger,willis,heston)\r\netc,etc,etc,","author":"krankyman","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 13:50:31","modified":"2003-09-28 13:50:31","fileurl":""},{"id":85166,"heading":"liberal media","article":"\u201cliberal controlled mainstream media in this country.\u201d\r\n(this is always a funny one)\r\n"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Mag- azine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years."\r\nDavid Rockefeller, June1991 in Baden Baden, Germany,\r\n","author":"Mammon","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 14:12:38","modified":"2013-11-11 00:26:21","fileurl":""},{"id":85183,"heading":"More Idiocy From the Neo-Cocks, I Mean Cons","article":"bush-asskisser the spook is what we call in Spanish a "mamon" (with an accent over\r\nthe 'o') meaning "one who likes to suck"\r\n\r\nWhat neo-conservatives believe:\r\n\r\n- That bush was a democratically-elected president \r\n\r\nenough said, but I will add:\r\n\r\n- That the national review reflects an objective, conservative perspective when it is actually\r\njust a front for white supremacy and caucasoid-centric thinking. Get over it, losers, the\r\nconfederacy ate shit and died a century ago. When will ya'll grow up and learn to live\r\nin peace with other peoples with different perspectives. And before some of you semantic\r\nfucks try to check what I said, conservatism is not a "different" opinion, its the imposed \r\nstatus-quo of the U.S., unfortunately.\r\n\r\nOh one more:\r\n\r\n- Neo-Cocks, I mean cons (they are con-artists after all) will have you believe that they\r\ngot nothing better to do with their time than monitor progressive websites like the IMC... ","author":"mediawatcher","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 15:27:55","modified":"2003-09-28 15:27:55","fileurl":""},{"id":85185,"heading":"More Proof of Neo-Con Ignorance","article":"In my quest to inform the unenlightened:\r\n\r\nbush-mamon above uses the tire "the jews control the media" argument to back up his\r\nridiculous claim that the media has a liberal bias. obviously this retard has never heard\r\nof the AIPAC or the other conservative pro-Israel groups that are now working in concert\r\nwith right-wing conservatives under bu(ll)sh(it), including media moguls like ruppert\r\nmurdoch, who owns the extremely right-wing fucked-news, I mean foxnews. obviously\r\ndickhead has never heard of clear channnel which has a virtual monopoly on radio \r\nstations in major US urban markets. And to be honest, most of the men in places of \r\npower in the mass media are really just anglo-saxons like you, or caucasoid who claim\r\ntheir Jewish-American heritage when Rosh Hashanna comes around. Your pale ass\r\nhas more in common with them than you care to admit. But what do you expect when you\r\nlive with your head up your ass...\r\n\r\nnuff said. ","author":"mediawatcher","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 15:40:04","modified":"2003-09-28 15:40:04","fileurl":""},{"id":85187,"heading":""More Idiocy From the Neo-Cocks, I Mean Cons"","article":"Wow.\r\n\r\nCould you be ANY more childish?\r\n\r\nAre you still in junior high?\r\n\r\nIf you want to be taken seriously (in the real world, outside of IndyMedia, that is), lose the profanity.\r\n\r\nIf you have to use obscenities, your argument is weak.\r\n\r\nLook at KPC, for example.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 15:45:47","modified":"2003-09-28 15:45:47","fileurl":""},{"id":85188,"heading":"Careful, mediawatcher!","article":""And to be honest, most of the men in places of \r\npower in the mass media are really just anglo-saxons like you, or caucasoid who claim \r\ntheir Jewish-American heritage when Rosh Hashanna comes around."\r\n\r\nThat hardly falls in line with the official imc "Jews control the entire world" line, does it?\r\n\r\nBlasphemy!","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 15:48:50","modified":"2003-09-28 15:48:50","fileurl":""},{"id":85192,"heading":"as "fresca" non just called them "subhuman"","article":"this soldier doesn't seem to think so - and he's actually there - not here sitting on his ass on some military base playing it safe running his mouth with our taxes footing the bill\r\n\r\n\r\n> Could you be ANY more childish? \r\n\r\nright - like you posting as 3 people, now that's childish !\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-09-28 15:56:51","modified":"2005-08-15 01:42:26","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/5.jpgwrqv7s.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/5.jpgwrqv7s.jpg"}},{"id":85197,"heading":"You're funny, Hex!","article":"That's why I like you so much.\r\n\r\n"right - like you posting as 3 people, now that's childish !"\r\n\r\nWhat are you so afraid of, Hex? Why does it make you feel better to thik that we're all one person?\r\n\r\nSad, really. But I will have to ask you to prove it.\r\n\r\nThis should be good.\r\n\r\nOh...and who called Iraqis "subhuman"?\r\n\r\nMust have missed that.\r\n\r\nFurthermore, I would remind you that, had you gotten your way and the war didn't happen, that child being cradled by the evil American soldier would have faced the very real possibility of witnessing her mother's rape, her father's murder, and being put in prison while still a child. Or simply being put in a mass grave with her parents while clutching a favorite toy.\r\n\r\nI hope you can live with yourself, you bastard.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 16:20:05","modified":"2003-09-28 16:20:05","fileurl":""},{"id":85204,"heading":"he hopes *I* can live with myself...","article":"Birth defects caused by use of DU on the civilan population for the "war"\r\n\r\n> had you gotten your way and the war didn't happen, that child being cradled by the evil American soldier would have faced the very real possibility of witnessing her mother's rape, her father's murder, and being put in prison while still a child.\r\n\r\nYou're only talking "what if's" - the war already happened and THIS is the result - since you supported this "war" this is on YOU !\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n ","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-09-28 16:41:29","modified":"2005-08-15 01:42:26","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/karen07.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/karen07.jpg"}},{"id":85223,"heading":"Hex","article":"Seek professional psychiatric help.","author":"Reality Check","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 18:08:54","modified":"2003-09-28 18:08:54","fileurl":""},{"id":85227,"heading":"aw - the truth revealed your dysfunction again","article":"sargent lyle at work "getting along"\r\n\r\n\r\nwhat's the matter - truth hurt ?\r\n\r\nyou talk about "what if's" for proof\r\n\r\nthen when I post proof (actual pictures of the actual results of the actual war)\r\n\r\nI "need help"\r\n\r\nokaeeeeee\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"audio\/mpeg","created":"2003-09-28 18:44:59","modified":"2005-08-15 01:42:26","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/sargent_lyle_at_work_pro_.mp3"},{"id":85235,"heading":"Hex the sucker","article":"It is a proven fact that FAR more DU was used in Kuwait that in Iraq in GW1.\r\n\r\nYet there is no greater incidence of cancer or birth defects in Kuwait. \r\n\r\nSame for Bosnia.\r\n\r\nSame for everywhere DU has been used.\r\n\r\nIf that baby is indeed Iraqi (and I reserve the right to NOT take your word for it), its deformities are more than likely the result of chemical weapons residue.\r\n\r\nGuess who put THAT there?\r\n\r\nYer buddy Saddam.\r\n\r\nAs for the "wat ifs" I posted, you can't deny them.\r\n\r\nUnless you're a fool, of course.\r\n\r\nAlso, your paranoid fantasy that all who disagree with you is pretty cute.\r\n\r\nStill waiting for the proof, though.\r\n\r\nGood luck with that!","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-28 19:43:39","modified":"2003-09-28 19:43:39","fileurl":""},{"id":85287,"heading":"PROOF POSITIVE","article":"How these warmongers FAIL to support the troops \r\nAFTER they come home.\r\nThis fucking computer jockey playing "monday morning quarterback"\r\nKnowing NOTHING of what the fuck he is talking about.\r\nWHY BELIEVE THE TROOPS NOW?\r\n\r\nFUCKING SCUMBAG TRAITOR!\r\nWHY DONT YOU JUST SAY\r\n"I DONT SUPPORT THE TROOPS AFTER THEY COME BACK"\r\n\r\nYOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE TO THE ARMED FORCES AND TO EVERY DISABLED VETERAN.\r\n\r\nPIECE OF SHIT REMF","author":"disabled gulf war veteran","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-29 01:46:02","modified":"2003-09-29 01:46:02","fileurl":""},{"id":85290,"heading":"Excuse me?","article":"How in the world did you ever make that leap of supposition?\r\n\r\nI don't support our troops? \r\n\r\nYou make a large error, sir.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":85135,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-29 01:51:16","modified":"2003-09-29 01:51:16","fileurl":""}]}