{"article":{"id":84004,"heading":"Who the hell is Booz, Allen, and Hamilton ?!?","author":"Agent Smiley","created":"2003-09-23 16:55:47","modified":"2003-09-27 02:34:06","last_modified":"Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:34:06","article":"

Booz-Allen is engaged in the creation of a program called \"Magic Lantern.\" This program is designed to figure out people's passwords so the military can have access to *ALL* email accounts...for the purpose of fighting terrorism. Magic Lantern insidiously will install a \"virus\" on your computer so that when you next log in to your email using a password, Magic Lantern sends a copy of the password to a Military computer, and they can then access your email. This is all stuff I got to read in the Washington Technology (a magazine devoted to celebrating the newest technological contracts awarded on Capitol Hill). It was HIGHLY recomended to me that those of us that use our email to engage in social justice work be aware of these realities and change our passwords VERY Frequently, making sure to include numbers in our passwords.

Agent Smiley: Now, many of you may remember the enormous disruption that occurred last year in the online activist community with worms, virii, digital identity theft, email bombs, etc. and how it all targeted anti-war activists, pro-Palestinian activists, and those trying to get to the bottom of 9-11. One can deduce that the authors and\/or puppetmasters behind this barrage were all of the same mind and all perhaps had something to do with the advancement of the military position of Israel, the advancement of the \"War on Terror\" and the obscuring of any real investigation of the events of September 11, 2001.

In light of such, I consider it no accident that Booz, Allen, & Hamilton (cited above) are also heavily implicated by much of the serious research on 9-11.

Please read on:

Who the hell is Booz, Allen, and Hamilton ?!?

http:\/\/makeashorterlink.com\/?P201549F5<\/a>

Yours,

Souljah.

*

<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/www.memes.org\/","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"A company with strong ties to the atrocity of September 11, 2001 is also implicated in the intense digital harrasment experienced in the past couple of years by anti-war activists.\r\n","numcomment":100,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/09\/84004.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":84070,"heading":"Link to more info.","article":"Follow this link to more info...","author":"@","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-23 22:52:20","modified":"2003-09-23 22:52:20","fileurl":""},{"id":84488,"heading":"The Magic Lantern article has been published at KOBE for almost two years.","article":"It is absolutely primitive as compared to the much more sophisticated Echelon system. The way you described it is NOT the way it works at all. Yes, the result is the same, but the mechanism is not as simple as that, Stephen DeVoy.\r\n\r\nFor you LOYAL Americans, there is nothing to worry about. For anarchists, and other dangerous seditionists, the gig is up. The internet will NOT be used as a channel for communicating your bullshit to law-abiding Americans or foreign terrorists you wish to help. ","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:01:08","modified":"2003-09-25 17:01:08","fileurl":""},{"id":84495,"heading":"KOBE SBM proves his stupidity.","article":"I did not describe magic latern and my link as to material others wrote. It is merely organized on my webpage. You never miss an opportunity to attempt a smear, do you?\r\n\r\nKOBE HQ = Jack Feldhaus\r\nKOBE SBM = Ned Lyle\r\n\r\nOther KOBE Members:\r\nGeorge Bullock\r\nMike Phillip\r\nJoey Stanker Behr\r\n\r\nWe have a long list of others. Each time you post my name, I will post a list of your members.\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:15:57","modified":"2003-09-25 17:15:57","fileurl":""},{"id":84499,"heading":"oh kobe - you attempt to lecture US on cyber-crime ?!?","article":"> much more sophisticated Echelon system\r\n\r\nwell ACB this & blowfish me\r\n\r\n\r\nkobe - who failed to use proxies at all over 100 times\r\n\r\nkobe - who made specific death threats to public officials\r\n\r\nkobe - who spends his time cyber-stalking insted of enjoying and seeing the world on his "100K a year" income\r\n\r\nkobe - who keeps hopping to different hosting blocks leaving a trail of IP's\r\n\r\nkobe - who's now under investigation for the above\r\n\r\npretends to portend to US what the future holds when we have encrypted private tunneling and below-IP layer links\r\n\r\nI'd be worried about your own future if I was you !\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:19:56","modified":"2003-09-25 17:19:56","fileurl":""},{"id":84500,"heading":"Cool!","article":">Each time you post my name, I will post a list of your members.\r\n\r\nStephen DeVoy","author":"Ed Schwartz","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:22:48","modified":"2003-09-25 17:22:48","fileurl":""},{"id":84504,"heading":"You mean - LIKE THIS ?","article":"> KOBE SBM = Ned Lyle \r\n\r\nthis screen capture shows it - recently too..\r\n\r\n \r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-09-25 17:29:28","modified":"2005-08-15 01:42:00","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/ned-kobe.jpgiykd5k.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/ned-kobe.jpgiykd5k.jpg"}},{"id":84505,"heading":"You are just as LAME today as you were yesterday and the day before that....","article":"You know NOTHING about modern networking. Your own posts here at LA Indymedia reveal that very clearly. No matter what you use to connect to another computer, the data stream MUST use an infrastructure and a protocol which is designed and regulated ultimately by THE GOVERNMENT. Just because you cant see the Truth doesnt mean that it doesnt exist.\r\n\r\nMy future is based on my past and my present. You seem to be "stuck", not being able to differentiate between the past and the present. That leaves your future uncertain. Mine is not. You have absolutely no idea what you are dealing with, Hex.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:29:28","modified":"2003-09-25 17:29:28","fileurl":""},{"id":84513,"heading":"your long-term activity logs give you away","article":"> the data stream MUST use an infrastructure and a protocol which is designed and regulated ultimately by THE GOVERNMENT. Just because you cant see the Truth doesnt mean that it doesnt exist. \r\n\r\nHELLO \r\n\r\nYou are aware that I design and build my own links, that they are stealth, that other traffic is mixed in, that it's *encrypted*\r\n\r\nYOU are the one bound by government designed equipment, you still can't get it though your thick skull that when you link locations below the IP level you *bypass* all the usual security concerns. When your traffic's end-point is some other location on the net not tied to you after bouncing through multiple anon proxies using Blowfish, HELLO ?\r\n\r\nAnd you're supposed to be some kind of expert !\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nYou have absolutely no idea what you are dealing with, Hex.\r\n\r\nI appear to be dealing with a drunken abusive cyber-stalker who spends his time running his mouth on-line insted of enjoying the world on his supposed 100K a year income\r\n\r\nlooking over these hundreds of messages including the one's without IP's noting the *timestamps* this IS what you spend your time doing\r\n\r\nA damn drunken liar who's (surprise?) abusive and motor-mouthed..\r\n\r\nwhat drunk isn't ?\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:41:08","modified":"2003-09-25 17:41:08","fileurl":""},{"id":84515,"heading":"Ed Schwartz","article":"Ed Schwartz\r\nKOBE\r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE HQ\r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE SBM\r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE DUKE\r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE XIAN\r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE KENOBI\r\n\r\nSearch engines are fun.","author":"X","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:43:26","modified":"2003-09-25 17:43:26","fileurl":""},{"id":84518,"heading":"FUCK YOU DEVOY POST MY NAME","article":"COME ON STEVIE DEE WHO AM I MAKE THE CALL ASSHOLE I SEE THERE'S A MESSAGE FOR YOU ON KOBE WEBSITE\r\n\r\nWHO AM I ASSCLOWN?\r\n\r\nHEY POST MY NAME, I JUST POSTED AS STEPHEN DEVOY\r\n\r\n","author":"STEPHEN DEVOY","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:49:59","modified":"2003-09-25 17:49:59","fileurl":""},{"id":84519,"heading":"Each time you post my name, I will post a list of your members","article":"Stephen DeVoy\r\n\r\nThat's two times.\r\nMake it a double.","author":"Ed Schwartz","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:53:24","modified":"2003-09-25 17:53:24","fileurl":""},{"id":84520,"heading":"Ed Schwartz","article":"Ed Schwartz \r\nKOBE \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE HQ \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE DUKE \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE XIAN \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE KENOBI \r\n\r\n","author":"X","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 17:54:28","modified":"2003-09-25 17:54:28","fileurl":""},{"id":84522,"heading":"Other IP's have been pinned down as well","article":"Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 00:27:19 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM\r\nNed Lyle\r\n67.73.161.58\r\nmailto:Sarge@compnla.com\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.hotboards.com\/plus\/plus.mirage?who=motorcycles&id=15194.995831369929\r\n\r\nThe IP's show he posts as all 3 of these;\r\n\r\nKOBE SBM\r\nKOBE_Screenpass\r\nKOBE Duke \r\n\r\n\r\nI've pinned down this IP \r\n\r\n24.130.5.30 * Kobe Duke\r\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - \r\n24.130.5.30 Cherry Hill, NJ \r\n- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -\r\nthis IP showed up several times on more than one board, as kobe duke over a period of time\r\n\r\nEither Duke posts from kobe sbm's house or kobe sbm posts AS duke according to the IP's.. And this is recent too\r\n\r\n\r\nSun, Aug 17, 2003 at 01:51:58 (EDT) \r\nKOBE SBM (the real one) \r\nmailto:kobehq@yahoo.com\r\n4.3.124.190\r\n4.3.124.156 GTE Intelligent Network Services (one of kobe's hosting IP's)\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n66.51.195.184 sbm\/hq (Ned)\r\n24.130.5.30 duke (fresca)\r\n12.75.133.147 scott (wurm)\r\n148.243.251.145 xian (dan - may be a proxy, it's harder to tell in mexico)\r\n\r\nthese IP's have been turned in as well\r\n\r\nWe'll see what the court findings are then we'll know for sure.\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 18:04:38","modified":"2003-09-25 18:04:38","fileurl":""},{"id":84523,"heading":"Ed Schwartz","article":"Ed Schwartz \r\nKOBE \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE HQ \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE DUKE \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE XIAN \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE KENOBI ","author":"X","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 18:05:13","modified":"2003-09-25 18:05:13","fileurl":""},{"id":84525,"heading":"Ed Schwartz","article":"Ed Schwartz \r\nKOBE \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE HQ \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE DUKE \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE XIAN \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE KENOBI \r\n\r\n","author":"X","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 18:07:32","modified":"2003-09-25 18:07:32","fileurl":""},{"id":84526,"heading":"Ed Schwartz","article":"Ed Schwartz \r\nKOBE \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE HQ \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE SBM \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE DUKE \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE XIAN \r\nEd Schwartz \r\nKOBE KENOBI \r\n\r\n","author":"X","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 18:09:42","modified":"2003-09-25 18:09:42","fileurl":""},{"id":84531,"heading":"Silly Ed...","article":"No one said that they'd be posted here. You have to look for them.\r\n\r\nBy the way, no one with a brain visits the KOBE website, message or not.\r\n\r\nDocuments concerning members of KOBE are being written. They will be released on schedule. They will also be sent, via US post office, to various parties.","author":"Mortal Enemy of KOBE","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 18:24:31","modified":"2003-09-25 18:24:31","fileurl":""},{"id":84533,"heading":"You should just leave the "drunk" angle alone.","article":"I dont drink at all, or use drugs, or any mind-altering chemical of any kind whatsoever. Im as sober as a statue. I have never been arrested for anything, EVER in my 43 years of life. I am a veteran, and I help design the very infrastructure you THINK you are circumventing. I am definitely an expert, nationally ranked. And paid very well, thank you very much.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 18:31:18","modified":"2003-09-25 18:31:18","fileurl":""},{"id":84536,"heading":"It would be easier if you just use our convenient MEMBERS page...ya think?","article":"\r\n\r\n<\/head>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

You can find it at \r\nhttp:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/members.htm<\/a>
\r\n
\r\nSo, all I have to do is to post your name?
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 <\/p>\r\n\r\n<\/body>\r\n\r\n<\/html>\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2003-09-25 18:42:58","modified":"2003-09-25 18:42:58","fileurl":""},{"id":84538,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"God, grow the fuck up for crissakes!","author":"KPC","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 18:52:50","modified":"2003-09-25 18:52:50","fileurl":""},{"id":84539,"heading":"an expert at pasting taunts in big red letters ?","article":"> I help design the very infrastructure you THINK youare circumventing. I am definitely an expert, nationally ranked. And paid very well, thank you very much.\r\n\r\n\r\nI see - you design MY networks - the infrastructure I built myself from scratch with my own hands. Which because I built it myself you couldn't possibly have any idea what it involves and still don't comprehend even though I've explained it to you...\r\n\r\nOK then "expert", enlighten us with your stellar effortless expert explaination on how I do something as simple as - say - chain proxies.\r\n\r\nHELLO ?\r\n\r\nI'M LOSING YOU - MUST BE SUNSPOTS\r\n\r\nAnd please tell me you don't just plug things in - say it isn't so !","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-09-25 18:55:43","modified":"2005-08-15 01:42:01","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/a_day_in_the_life_of_kobe.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/a_day_in_the_life_of_kobe.jpg"}},{"id":84540,"heading":"You dont build infrastructures, DOLT.","article":"INFRASTRUCTURE.\r\n\r\nin\u00b7fra\u00b7struc\u00b7ture \r\nPronunciation: 'in-fr&-"str&k-ch&r, -(")fr\u00e4-\r\nFunction: noun\r\nDate: 1927\r\n1 : the underlying foundation or basic framework (as of a system or organization)\r\n2 : the permanent installations required for military purposes\r\n3 : the system of public works of a country, state, or region; also : the resources (as personnel, buildings, or equipment) required for an activity \r\n\r\nWhat you have concocted in your own little cubbyhole does not qualify as an infrastructure, you moronic buffoon! Infrastructure is a shared resource. You can encrypt and perf board yourself in your own home all you want. As soon as you connect to the INFRASTRUCTURE (ie the internet), you are no longer in control. PERIOD.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 19:07:26","modified":"2013-11-11 00:26:16","fileurl":""},{"id":84541,"heading":"YOOO HOOO Hex Anon WHO AM I YOU SIMPLE FUCK","article":"who am I? Please tell me asswipe? You have no clue. Show me what you got, post my IP and my name? Come on cock sucker just do it","author":"Stephen DeVoy","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 19:15:31","modified":"2003-09-25 19:15:31","fileurl":""},{"id":84542,"heading":"I cant wait until I use my cryptotron on you!","article":"I wrote it myself, in DOS 6.22. Using a special algorithm I worked out on my abacus, I have computed the algebra of the vector, which emulates the calculus of the hypoteneuse. You wouldnt understand, now would you KOBE? \r\n\r\nI have built and designed my own satellites and rocket boosters, utiizing my own cords and perf boards. My green monitors are connected by specially made RS-232 cables and high grade COAX network cable, using base 10. That's right. The latest thing, you know.\r\n\r\nMy computers have the latest hardware in them. Lots of EDO ram, and a 486-DX processor running at 120mhz (I overclocked it myself!). You cant hope to compete, KOBE. You are only a working Systems Administrator, an MCSE and a CCNE and have 20 years experience and a Masters Degree in Computer Science. What do you know?","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 19:21:47","modified":"2003-09-25 19:21:47","fileurl":""},{"id":84543,"heading":"so THAT'S how you chain proxies - thanks !","article":"> Infrastructure is a shared resource. You can encrypt and perf board yourself in your own home all you want. As soon as you connect to the INFRASTRUCTURE (ie the internet), you are no longer in control. PERIOD.\r\n\r\nHELLO ? Infrared free-space light beams connect *several physical locations* and we use a system based on AT&T's "Crowds" with outgoing *encrypted tunnels to remote bounces* before EMERGING onto the actual internet. A "poor man's" VPN - you know, that "jaw dropping" tunneling you only tinker with - I build the damn thing - in CUSTOM HARDWARE, part by part, completely my own design.\r\n\r\nHELLO ?\r\n\r\nAre we able to see beyond our own school books ?\r\n\r\nAgain you have NO IDEA what you're trying to put down.\r\n\r\nSeveral legally separate physical locations encrypted\/stealth in a network IS infrastructure. I built the damn system myself.\r\n\r\nPut down the book and the bottle and try to think for yourself for a change.\r\n\r\nI'm still waiting for your expert explaination on how I chain proxies with HTTPort & SOCKSCap\r\n\r\nBut no do change the subject - to my custom hardware you know nothing about - that's even more convincing !\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 19:22:31","modified":"2003-09-25 19:22:31","fileurl":""},{"id":84545,"heading":"who spends his time spamming, abusing, trolling, cyber-stalking","article":"> a working Systems Administrator, an MCSE and a CCNE and have 20 years experience and a Masters Degree in Computer Science. \r\n\r\nSee the world, take long vacations, explore, relax\r\n\r\nNo wait - I know !\r\n\r\nBe abusive for long hours harassing people..\r\n\r\ncheer up\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 19:26:25","modified":"2003-09-25 19:26:25","fileurl":""},{"id":84551,"heading":"Actually, there quite a lot I dont know.","article":"For instance, I dont know anything at all about building 1972 Volkswagen Bugs, or tinkering around with LEDs and ham radio sets. I know nothing about having sex with animals, or getting fucked in the ass either. No...Id have to admit that you an expert in those areas.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 19:46:41","modified":"2003-09-25 19:46:41","fileurl":""},{"id":84553,"heading":"wow","article":"wow\r\nbashful type\r\nwow","author":"wow","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 19:50:03","modified":"2003-09-25 19:50:03","fileurl":""},{"id":84555,"heading":"You think I'm KOBE?","article":"Wrongo, Skippy.\r\n\r\nNow, with as big a mistake as that, why should I believe anything else you say?\r\n\r\nYeah...I can't think of any reasons either.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 19:54:33","modified":"2003-09-25 19:54:33","fileurl":""},{"id":84565,"heading":"the non-believer of facts","article":"Re: your identity\r\n\r\nWe'll let the "experts" who filed the discoverys sort it out.\r\n\r\n\r\nwhy believe ?\r\n\r\nthe photographs from the actual web sites - URL's given, aren't real, I made them up\r\n\r\nthe live video footage from the same web site showing the exact same scene when the photographs were taken - I made that up too\r\n\r\nI hacked all those web sites - and continue to hack them in order to keep my fake photos and videos up even to this day\r\n\r\nbut no one can catch me because kobe is the expert and I can't do anything anon\r\n\r\nThe USS Liberty's actual crewmen saying in their own words along with the actual radio traffic from a TV show, I made that up as well\r\n\r\nThe FOIA documents I made up\r\n\r\nThe Church committee documents I made up too\r\n\r\ndon't believe !\r\n\r\nWhy should you - after all none of this is real, only your ignorant racist opinions are real and true..\r\n\r\nThey have to be - otherwise your little shuttered world would fall apart...\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 20:16:59","modified":"2003-09-25 20:16:59","fileurl":""},{"id":84575,"heading":"I knew it....the signs of semi-illiteracy.","article":"Ah...Hex. So, you are a high school dropout? Perhaps the proud bearer of a GED? I guessed as much, but now I know for sure. Wanna know how KOBE knows?\r\n\r\n1. Your spelling: using words such as "discoverys", and numberous other misspellings repeated over and over (thereby ruling out random error).\r\n\r\n2. Your abuse of the humble apostrophe. \r\n\r\n3. Your outdated "knowledge" of computers and computing (KOBE guesses about 10 or more years out of date).\r\n\r\n4. Your obvious need for validation. An empty hole which craves respect and desires to be "special" lurks within you. Hence, the claims of secret designs and homemade "perf boards" and such.\r\n\r\nI know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you never attended college. You lack all the proper disciplines and writing skills. You fail to check your work, and you do not research your findings before publishing them. You will never see KOBE print theories. Only facts.\r\n\r\nThe facts show that you dont know shit. Every IP address you have "found" (they are all at http:\/\/forum.asiaco.com\/pakistan) are over a year and a half old, none of them are fixed, and most of them are proxies. Even if they were accurante (which they are not), exactly how do you plan to use them? We already know the answer to that question, dont we? \r\n\r\nYou can do NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. ","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 20:57:55","modified":"2003-09-25 20:57:55","fileurl":""},{"id":84577,"heading":"Do you come up with this shit yourself? ITS hilarious!","article":""HELLO ? Infrared free-space light beams connect *several physical locations* and we use a system based on AT&T's "Crowds" with outgoing *encrypted tunnels to remote bounces* before EMERGING onto the actual internet. A "poor man's" VPN - you know, that "jaw dropping" tunneling you only tinker with - I build the damn thing - in CUSTOM HARDWARE, part by part, completely my own design. "\r\n\r\n\r\nAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "We?" And who....pray tell....is "we"? Unless you actually SEE the bodies that are speaking the voices you hear, you should just assume that they are in your head. They dont really count, Hex. Unless you have clean rooms, and automated laser photoetching processors, and also CAD based circuit design and optimizers, plus multilayer silicon acid baths (snicker)....nothing you build can approach even the most primitive computer of two years ago.\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 21:01:05","modified":"2003-09-25 21:01:05","fileurl":""},{"id":84582,"heading":"Hex","article":"Whatever, dude.\r\n\r\nI'll play your stupid little game.\r\n\r\nI'm a KOBE; have been since 1969. We used bulletin boards back then. Not BBS, but actual cork bulletin boards. I was on the Liberty; I was on the Church Committee. I was on board the ISS when we blew up the space shuttle (both of them). I secretly spearheaded the IMC project in order to have an endless supply of leftists and anarchists to ridicule (thanks for cooperating so nicely, there, by the way). \r\n\r\nMy international network of KOBE servers is powered by energy drawn off the HAARP Project. We have hacked into and taken control of the defense department networks of all countries on earth. Some were easier than others; the French network let us in after one password guess. \r\n\r\nWe are KOBE. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.\r\n\r\nResistance is futile. You will be assimilated. ","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 21:20:18","modified":"2003-09-25 21:20:18","fileurl":""},{"id":84584,"heading":"One more thing, Hex","article":"You called me ignorant. Is that just because I don't fall down and worship at the altar of Hex?\r\n\r\nYeah...thought so.\r\n\r\nYou also called me racist. Please back that up with any post of mine. If I'm so obviously a racist, it shouldn't be that difficult.\r\n\r\nEither that, or shut yer yap, moron.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 21:24:46","modified":"2003-09-25 21:24:46","fileurl":""},{"id":84585,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"He's not KOBE...\r\n\r\n....he's FIDO....\r\n\r\n....Fecal Intellect Defense Organization....\r\n\r\n....but there ain't a dirty cunthairs worth of difference between the two....","author":"KPC","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 21:24:56","modified":"2003-09-25 21:24:56","fileurl":""},{"id":84586,"heading":"Yay!","article":"Chicken Boy chimes in with pointless obscenities!\r\n\r\nNo la-imc post would be complete without Chicken Boy demonstrating how he uses profanity instead of rational thought.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 21:26:42","modified":"2003-09-25 21:26:42","fileurl":""},{"id":84601,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"It ain't profane...it's descriptive, pansieboy....\r\n\r\n...Yeah, I know, don't ask...don't tell....","author":"KPC","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 22:06:41","modified":"2003-09-25 22:06:41","fileurl":""},{"id":84604,"heading":"OneEyedMan = OneTrickPony","article":"Leave the insults to people that know how to deliver them. You don't.","author":"suggestion","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 22:09:53","modified":"2003-09-25 22:09:53","fileurl":""},{"id":84607,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...seems to get you jumpin' through hoops though...don't it?\r\n\r\nMaybe you can join my other trick poodles in FIDO....\r\n\r\nHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!","author":"KPC","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 22:14:50","modified":"2003-09-25 22:14:50","fileurl":""},{"id":84614,"heading":"KPC","article":"Bush bashing is nothing. Any major media outlet does it. You're nothing new. You're just a follower.\r\n\r\nSo tell us, when is FEMA and the space aliens going to get together and put us all into internment camps?","author":"z","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 22:23:29","modified":"2003-09-25 22:23:29","fileurl":""},{"id":84619,"heading":"STER-I-LIZE. Error. Error. Err-or.","article":"\r\n\r\n<\/head>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

"We are KOBE. We will add your biological and technological \r\ndistinctiveness to our own. <\/p>\r\n

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated."<\/p>\r\n

\r\nBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!<\/font><\/p>\r\n

You rascal! There I was, with my hot fries and \r\nburger, I take a bite and come upon this post and BLAM! Because of you, I am now \r\nwiping bits of burger, pickle and onions off of my monitor screen. \r\nAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You know, Non, you left a lot of our escapades out. Way back \r\nwhen, in Atlantis, KOBE stole the Great Crystal which pulled an asteroid out of \r\nthe Asteroid Belt which killed off the dinosaurs. Oh...the dinosaurs....they \r\nwere genetically created by KOBE in order to terrify and subjugate the Stone Age \r\nanarchists who were protesting us. They had quite a time with those stone \r\nprotest signs, though. Sometimes, the sign would fall of the branch it was \r\nattached to and kill the bearer by crushing his head. Anne Boleyn? Yep....she \r\nwas busted with a horny KOBE, and then beheaded. Alien abductions? Yep...its us.<\/p>\r\n

KOBE is behind every mystery, in every molecule, \r\nand is the very center of every black hole. That big earthquake in Japan was \r\nwhere? That's right.....Kobe, Japan. Looks like we have been exposed.<\/p>\r\n\r\n<\/body>\r\n\r\n<\/html>\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2003-09-25 22:27:53","modified":"2003-09-25 22:27:53","fileurl":""},{"id":84627,"heading":"pounding the table is kobe's past-time","article":"> nothing you build can approach even the most primitive computer of two years ago. \r\n\r\nhell my newest equipment is 3 years old (2000)\r\n\r\nelitism - my table pounding is better than yours !\r\n\r\nYou can attempt to fault and put down all you like, it doesn't change a thing. The info I've shared is factual, I've no need to try to prove a thing to "non-believers"\r\n\r\nMatter of fact in doing so would be a breach of security just so you can - once more - disbelieve, no matter what is posted.\r\n\r\nI could post photographs of the operations room for example or the lenses - which glow blue\/grey from the IR when viewed from a camera with it's IR filter removed. I did not use lasers, they are dangerous and illegal to use outdoors. If you do a search for "free-space optics" you will get hits from both laser (licensed) and LED type lenses.\r\n\r\nThe system is simply wide-band analog with multi-plexed carriers - exactly the same as fiber optics but without the fiber.\r\n\r\nsome links are video, wide-band FM alone with only the color-under 630.KHz subcarrier\r\n\r\nIf you knew a damn thing about electronic hardware or even had any general knowledge beyond what you studied you *would know these things*\r\n\r\nNot only are you a biased hostile (abusive) non-believer, you're also *ignorant* about basic electronics.\r\n\r\nI don't have time to teach an abusive alcoholic basic electronics who only spews more bile with every post\r\n\r\nBut luckly we won't have to for much longer, since you will be unable to post from prison..\r\n\r\nI turned the IP's in.\r\n\r\nI know almost all the ones that are proxies, of the 600 asiaco posts PLUS the motorcycle board posts PLUS some other's I found including cached from *kobehq* like you said was impossible...\r\n\r\nThe IP's I'm refering to *which I've posted* are the combined results of all these sources, all but one having *nothing to do with DeVoy's efforts*\r\n\r\nShall I post them again ?\r\n\r\nBTW- that was a really cool and well written explaination on how I do something as simple as chain proxies - something YOU can't even do - "expert"\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I see you're enjoying the freedom and happyness traveling the world, vacationing, enjoying yourself and relaxing that goes with a high-paying job *you claim you have* - but wait !\r\n\r\nIt seems you're NOT living the live you claim - insted you spend all your time being *abusive* on-line..\r\n\r\nhmmmmm\r\n\r\nwhat a life.. I wish I had a job like that - where I'd end up bitter, resentful, angry, nasty, perverted posting as half a dozen people, having conversations with myself\r\n\r\nThe IP's prove it - and don't give me that shit about Genuity IP's being proxies - proxyhunter says liar liar pants on fire to that !\r\n\r\n\r\nBut when you're in prison you'll have plenty of time to think about where your life has went, maybe you'll get some counceling and *anger management* classes out of the deal and be released a new man with better thing to do than spew hate at people on-line while hiding.\r\n\r\nThat's quite a lifestyle you have.\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 22:47:49","modified":"2003-09-25 22:47:49","fileurl":""},{"id":84633,"heading":"??","article":""But luckly we won't have to for much longer, since you will be unable to post from prison. I turned the IP's in."\r\n\r\nHow long will this process take? When nothing happens, what will you do then?\r\n","author":"??","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 22:55:28","modified":"2003-09-25 22:55:28","fileurl":""},{"id":84638,"heading":"KOBE and Hex","article":"Sorry, KOBE, should have read the fine print:\r\n\r\n"Not responsible for partially used food being sprayed on computer equipment. Watch all belongings. Warning: Hot beverages are hot."\r\n\r\nDude...at least you got a sense of humor. Have you noticed that's something sorely lacking amongst our libbie\/annie pals? Unless there's a good Bush\/Hitler photoshop...then they pee their pants. Sad, really.\r\n\r\nYour turn, Hex: Suppose your little wet dream comes true, and KOBE goes to jail. Not at all likely, I know, but bear with me.\r\n\r\nWhat are you going to say when I keep on merrily posting away?\r\n\r\nBTW (that means "by the way"), still waiting for that proof of me being racist.\r\n\r\nGo ahead. I'll wait.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 23:07:19","modified":"2003-09-25 23:07:19","fileurl":""},{"id":84640,"heading":"You are hopelessy lost. Forever lost in the Sea of The Shunned","article":""But when you're in prison you'll have plenty of time to think about where your life has went(sic), maybe you'll get some counceling (sic) and *anger management* classes out of the deal and be released a new man with better thing to do than spew hate at people on-line while hiding. "\r\n\r\nIts so sad. To realize that you actually sit and write down year old IP addresses from a message board which is NOT yours, and genuinely believe that somebody....ANYBODY is going to do something with them. Im at a loss for words. Can you really be that stupid? Stephen DeVoy was doing the same thing you are doing right now, about two years ago, when the messages were CURRENT, and he couldnt do anything then. You think you will fare any different? I dont think so.\r\n\r\nOnce again, you have failed to let the fact that I DONT DRINK ALCOHOL or USE DRUGS sink in. I have never been arrested, and I dont plan to be anytime soon. "you'll have plenty of time to think about where your life has went (gone)". Actually, I get to do that every day. Each morning, I get to walk into my kitchen, make my cup of cappucino with my Krupps, and take it out to my patio which overlooks the Pacific Ocean. After scrolling through my favorite websites with my laptop (connected to my wireless network), I get dressed for work. Then I go to my garage, and turn the key in the door of my black Mercedes, and drive leisurely to work.\r\n\r\nMy life has gone into college (you wouldnt know anything about that), hard work, wise investments, and great parents and friends. I get to walk into my office, and fire up my computers, monitor the servers I have built, and the vast computer netwrk which I have designed and for which I am responsible. Then each week, I get to see my direct deposit of my paycheck (which is considerable). \r\n\r\nYou, on the other hand, NEVER attended college, you tinkered around with Volkswagens and computers (most likely in the 70's and 80's), and probably smoked a lot of pot and partied. Look where its gotten you. Now, you troll this place, supporting anarchists and left wingnuts who dont know shit from Shinola. Its really quite tragic, you know. \r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 23:10:33","modified":"2003-09-25 23:10:33","fileurl":""},{"id":84647,"heading":"you forgot something, UNLIKE YOU -","article":"I don't spend my time posting hate messages, threatening people, spamming, trolling, being abusive, distracting, disrupting and cyber-stalking\r\n\r\nI'm a troll on here when the person who runs this IMC *says* I am - not before and not by you.\r\n\r\nI refuse to enumerate the universities I've been involved with or to specify it. It's okay to mention the Institute of Microbiology as long as I don't specify as well. Suffice to say I was never simply a student but something more - something you never were or will *ever be*...\r\n\r\nToo much info along those lines could yield my identity as well as other info like blue boxes - I've told you as much as I'm ever going to. Due to my age (at the time) I am protected from usual searches and narrowly escaped being brought before a grand jury.\r\n\r\nenough said\r\n\r\n\r\nIf the fed's don't get you the IRS will\r\n\r\nThe military asshole thinks his activity will go on forever, but things have a way of changing in unexpected ways and sooner than you might suspect..\r\n\r\nThen there's the backup action - which I also won't go into for obvious reasons.\r\n\r\nNo you will not be pulling leads out of me\r\n\r\nhave another drink insted\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 23:31:14","modified":"2003-09-25 23:31:14","fileurl":""},{"id":84651,"heading":"Hex","article":"Still waiting for that proof of me being racist. ","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 23:43:37","modified":"2003-09-25 23:43:37","fileurl":""},{"id":84652,"heading":"BWAHAHAHA! I dont even use a proxy to post here.","article":"" refuse to enumerate the universities I've been involved with or to specify it. It's okay to mention the Institute of Microbiology as long as I don't specify as well. Suffice to say I was never simply a student but something more - something you never were or will *ever be*... "\r\n\r\nAHAHAHAHA! Even the janitors and gardeners of MIT are "involved with the universities" as you say. You were NOT a student, and it shows. A college graduate would never write as atrociously as you do, and would always check his\/her work before blurting it out foolishly...leaving it open to scrutiny and ridicule as you have done.\r\n\r\n"Suffice to say I was never simply a student but something more - something you never were or will *ever be*... "\r\n\r\nWould that "something" be ILLITERATE? Perhaps UNEDUCATED? Why would one attend a university as anything other than "simply a student"? The university is merely a stepping stone to greater things. Having a degree does not insure one's success. Even having a Masters doesnt do the trick. Only PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the knowledge one gains in school will insure his or her success. Knowledge is power, and you are very very weak, my friend.\r\n\r\nPost away, troll all you want, create your boring and innacurate graphical representations. They prove nothing, and have no effect. As far as me being a "troll", apparently, the IMC staff has decided that perhaps I provide some much needed entertainment here. I dont know. However, you are definitely an amusing fellow....come on....show me! Do a "perf board" trick...Pleeeeease?\r\n\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-25 23:44:41","modified":"2003-09-25 23:44:41","fileurl":""},{"id":84680,"heading":"dave has the answer, kobe","article":"> And if you have to resort to profanity and personal insults, you have no argument, and you lose. \r\n\r\n\r\nThank you - I couldn't have said it better myself !\r\n\r\nkobe's still pounding the table...\r\n\r\nwhile I already pounded facts - IP's - to people who were much more receptive and believing.\r\n\r\nIt doesn't matter what *you* think, all that matters is what THEY THOUGHT and posting the IP's allows DeVoy to add this data to his own to use for his suit, plus serves as a warning to people who might - say - visit your web site, and so on...\r\n\r\nYou can pound the table all you like but it doesn't affect these issues.\r\n\r\nThe best thing you could do is prove the IP's I posted have nothing to do with you (kobehq.com) but that's impossible isn't it ?\r\n\r\nLike for example if the 4.x.x.x IP's are proxies as you claimed simply show us the IP&port so we can test these proxies.\r\n\r\nI used to be in the bbn-planet range myself (4.x.x.x) and have *already scanned the entire block for proxies* using proxyhunter. There are *very few* within this range anymore.\r\n\r\nBut please do post the proxies you claim to have used !\r\n\r\n4.60.9.83 * lsanca1-ar2-4-60-009-083.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net\r\n4.60.37.198\r\n4.60.45.148\r\n4.60.120.27\r\n4.60.160.142\r\n4.60.163.229\r\n4.60.187.21\r\n4.60.244.81\r\n\r\n4.63.30.212 * hnllhi1-ar2-4-63-117-049.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net \r\n4.63.117.49\r\n4.63.117.49\r\n\r\n\r\n4.46.135.227 * lsanca2-ar26-4-46-135-227.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net\r\n4.46.193.229 GTE Intelligent Network Services\r\n4.46.194.111 GTE Intelligent Network Services \r\n\r\n\r\n4.43.177.62 * lsanca2-ar30-4-43-177-062.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net (used many times)\r\n4.43.180.162 Genuity \r\n\r\n4.3.124.190 * lsanca2-ar30-4-3-124-190.lsanca2.dsl-verizon.net\r\n\r\n4.3.124.156 GTE Intelligent Network Services\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nSO, which one of these are proxies ? are ANY of these proxies ???\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 03:48:07","modified":"2003-09-26 03:48:07","fileurl":""},{"id":84682,"heading":"You got something right....for once!","article":""The best thing you could do is prove the IP's I posted have nothing to do with you (kobehq.com) but that's impossible isn't it ? "\r\n\r\nYEP. Its IMPOSSIBLE allright. No posts to any forum anywhere have ever been made from the KOBE Headquarters server. No e-mail has ever been sent from any e-mail address ending in kobehq.com because there is no e-mail component installed on the server, and there never has been.\r\n\r\nThe forums you have been mining for IP addresses from do not belong to you, and you cannot act as an agent for the owners. I am SO unconcerned, that I dont even bother to use a proxy when I post at SJD's forum. I could close it down very easily, with single e-mail, just as KOBE has done with every forum on Voy, and every forum on Asiaco that we want.\r\n\r\nCollect whatever you want. We know what we can do, and what we cannot (according to the law, and to the rules of our ISP). YOU BORE ME.\r\n\r\nhere is DeVoy in his latest movie, right at Harvard Square: http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/invasion.wmv\r\n\r\nGreat movie clip, great music. Pop some popcorn! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!\r\n\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 04:35:48","modified":"2003-09-26 04:35:48","fileurl":""},{"id":84684,"heading":"stung by the laws you support ! hahaha","article":"> No posts to any forum anywhere have ever been made from the KOBE Headquarters server. \r\n\r\nI didn't say that - they are obviously your DSL IP's and NOT proxies.\r\n\r\nShow any IP I just listed is a proxy - you CAN'T because none of them are.\r\n\r\nI don't need to be involved with the board hosts when death threats to public officials are made, all that has to happen is *anyone* who see's it turns the info in.\r\n\r\nThis isn't a harassment case to other board patrons or the host, this is DEATH THREATS - a much more serious charge which only requires probable cause which can be based on only hearsay;\r\n\r\n"Rumors are all that are needed to instigate an investigation, or even lay charges. New anti-terrorist law in both Canada and the United States allows state security forces to carry out raids on individuals based on nothing more than hearsay evidence."\r\n\r\n\r\nThey were supplied with far more than rumors or hearsay, captured death threat posts (including ON kobehq.com), the URL's to see them still on-line, IP lists, a pretty big selection of posts showing history and a summary of what I know about the situation.\r\n\r\nThe death threats to the Congresswoman and the Governer is what did it.. All leads point back to you\/compnla. Once a case was established you should have always used proxies and quietly slipped away. The threats were made from your IP's and you're still here. (I have noticed you've stopped with the threats and greatly cut back on your other activities - wonder why ?)\r\n\r\n1.) how do I chain proxies\r\n2.) which IP's I've listed are proxies\r\n3.) make some more death threats\r\n\r\nWhat's the matter - are you now AFRAID TO ?\r\n\r\n\r\nYou can tap-dance around the IP and proxy issue all you like but it doesn't change *what you've already done* and in fact the hopping from one sub-net to another within the Genuity block actually provided a better trail than if you had simply stayed put.\r\n\r\nAs your hosting IP changed so did your posts...\r\n\r\nAll using "kobe" and all tracing back to the same netblock (and sub-nets) kobehq.com went to...\r\n\r\nThat was almost enough alone but the recent death threats got the ball rolling...\r\n\r\nSince I turned the info in anonymously I can tell you about it (otherwise they force you to keep your mouth shut until they take action telling you it will compromise the investigation and "obstruct justice")\r\n\r\nSince it falls under domestic terrorism your ISP cannot tell you they filed for discovery and once they charge you for the two officials the other parties will be looked into for additional charges. They simply wouldn't start for those people alone under the circumstances.\r\n(basicly what you outlined - more and more direct complaints would be needed)\r\n\r\nBut the death threats to McKinney & Davis changed everything - they were duty bound to investigate those..\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 07:34:27","modified":"2003-09-26 07:34:27","fileurl":""},{"id":84686,"heading":"ip's","article":"Threats from the internet can come from anywhere. If you don't have the proper equipment, and civilians don't, you can't tell where the IP really come from. It's easy to disguise an IP. If my real IP is 5.40.356.89, I can arrange it so that anyone else reading is sees 7.28.632.21 or anything else I choose. If you don't know how this is done and want to, get with someone and learn how. I don't have the time.\r\n\r\nGray Davis is almost gone. Why would anyone want to threaten him, makes no sense. Unless, of course, you wanted to try and frame someone by stealing their IP.\r\n\r\nCynthia McNigger is gone. Why threaten her? Again, the above.\r\n\r\nThreatening liberals and anarchists, there's no crime in that.","author":"v1","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 09:36:44","modified":"2003-09-26 09:36:44","fileurl":""},{"id":84701,"heading":"25 Rules of Disinformation: How to Fight Back","article":"25 Rules of Disinformation: How to Fight Back \r\n\r\nBuilt upon Thirteen Techniques for Truth Suppression by David Martin, the following may be useful to the initiate in the world of dealing with veiled and half-truth, lies, and suppression of truth when serious crimes are studied in public forums. This, sadly, includes every day news media, one of the worst offenders with respect to being a source of disinformation. Where the crime involves a conspiracy, or a conspiracy to cover up the crime, there will invariably be a disinformation campaign launched against those seeking to uncover and expose the truth and\/or the conspiracy. There are specific tactics which disinfo artists tend to apply, as revealed here. Also included with this material are seven common traits of the disinfo artist which may also prove useful in identifying players and motives. The more a particular party fits the traits and is guilty of following the rules, the more likely they are a professional disinfo artist with a vested motive. \r\nPeople can be bought, threatened, or blackmailed into providing disinformation, so even "good guys" can be suspect in many cases. \r\nA rational person participating as one interested in the truth will evaluate that chain of evidence and conclude either that the links are solid and conclusive, that one or more links are weak and need further development before conclusion can be arrived at, or that one or more links can be broken, usually invalidating (but not necessarily so, if parallel links already exist or can be found, or if a particular link was merely supportive, but not in itself key) the argument. The game is played by raising issues which either strengthen or weaken (preferably to the point of breaking) these links. It is the job of a disinfo artist to interfere with these evaluation... to at least make people think the links are weak or broken when, in truth, they are not... or to propose alternative solutions leading away from the truth. Often, by simply impeding and slowing down the process through disinformation tactics, a level of victory is assured because apathy increases with time and rhetoric. \r\nIt would seem true in almost every instance, that if one cannot break the chain of evidence for a given solution, revelation of truth has won out. If the chain is broken either a new link must be forged, or a whole new chain developed, or the solution is invalid an a new one must be found... but truth still wins out. There is no shame in being the creator or supporter of a failed solution, chain, or link, if done with honesty in search of the truth. This is the rational approach. While it is understandable that a person can become emotionally involved with a particular side of a given issue, it is really unimportant who wins, as long as truth wins. But the disinfo artist will seek to emotionalize and chastise any failure (real or false claims thereof), and will seek by means of intimidation to prevent discussion in general. \r\nEight Traits of The Disinformationalist \r\n1. Avoidance \r\n2. Selectivity \r\n3. Coincidental \r\n4. Teamwork \r\n5. Anti-conspiratorial \r\n6. Artificial Emotions \r\n7. Inconsistent \r\n8. Newly Discovered: Time Constant \r\n\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \r\nIt is the disinfo artist and those who may pull their strings (those who stand to suffer should the crime be solved) MUST seek to prevent rational and complete examination of any chain of evidence which would hang them. Since fact and truth seldom fall on their own, they must be overcome with lies and deceit. Those who are professional in the art of lies and deceit, such as the intelligence community and the professional criminal (often the same people or at least working together), tend to apply fairly well defined and observable tools in this process. However, the public at large is not well armed against such weapons, and is often easily led astray by these time-proven tactics. Remarkably, not even media and law enforcement have NOT BEEN TRAINED to deal with these issues. For the most part, only the players themselves understand the rules of the game. \r\nThis why concepts from the film, Wag-The-Dog, actually work. If you saw that movie, know that there is at least one real-world counterpart to Al Pacino's character. For CIA, it is Mark Richards, who was called in to orchestrate the media response to Waco on behalf of Janet Reno. Mark Richards is the acknowledged High Priest of Disinformation. His appointment was extremely appropriate, since the CIA was VERY present at Waco from the very beginning of the cult to the very end of their days - just as it was at the People's Temple in Jonestown. Richards purpose in life is damage control. \r\nFor such disinformationalists, the overall aim is to avoid discussing links in the chain of evidence which cannot be broken by truth, but at all times, to use clever deceptions or lies to make select links seem weaker than they are, create the illusion of a break, or better still, cause any who are considering the chain to be distracted in any number of ways, including the method of questioning the credentials of the presenter. Please understand that fact is fact, regardless of the source. Likewise, truth is truth, regardless of the source. This is why criminals are allowed to testify against other criminals. Where a motive to lie may truly exist, only actual evidence that the testimony itself IS a lie renders it completely invalid. Were a known 'liar's' testimony to stand on its own without supporting fact, it might certainly be of questionable value, but if the testimony (argument) is based on verifiable or otherwise demonstrable facts, it matters not who does the presenting or what their motives are, or if they have lied in the past or even if motivated to lie in this instance -- the facts or links would and should stand or fall on their own merit and their part in the matter will merely be supportive. \r\nMoreover, particularly with respects to public forums such as newspaper letters to the editor, and Internet chat and news groups, the disinfo type has a very important role. In these forums, the principle topics of discussion are generally attempts by individuals to cause other persons to become interested in their own particular position, idea, or solution -- very much in development at the time. People often use such mediums as a sounding board and in hopes of pollination to better form their ideas. Where such ideas are critical of government or powerful, vested groups (especially if their criminality is the topic), the disinfo artist has yet another role -- the role of nipping it in the bud. They also seek to stage the concept, the presenter, and any supporters as less than credible should any possible future confrontation in more public forums result due to their early successes. You can often spot the disinfo types at work here by the unique application of "higher standards" of discussion than necessarily warranted. They will demand that those presenting arguments or concepts back everything up with the same level of expertise as a professor, researcher, or investigative writer. Anything less renders any discussion meaningless and unworthy in their opinion, and anyone who disagrees is obviously stupid -- and they generally put it in exactly those terms. \r\nSo, as you read any such discussions, particularly so in Internet news groups (NG), decide for yourself when a rational argument is being applied and when disinformation, psyops (psychological warfare operations) or trickery is the tool. Accuse those guilty of the later freely. They (both those deliberately seeking to lead you astray, and those who are simply foolish or misguided thinkers) generally run for cover when thus illuminated, or -- put in other terms, they put up or shut up (a perfectly acceptable outcome either way, since truth is the goal.) Here are the twenty-five methods and seven traits, some of which don't apply directly to NG application. Each contains a simple example in the form of actual (some paraphrased for simplicity) from NG comments on commonly known historical events, and a proper response. Accusations should not be overused -- reserve for repeat offenders and those who use multiple tactics. Responses should avoid falling into emotional traps or informational sidetracks, unless it is feared that some observers will be easily dissuaded by the trickery. Consider quoting the complete rule rather than simply citing it, as others will not have reference. Offer to provide a complete copy of the rule set upon request (see permissions statement at end): \r\n1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility. \r\n2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well. \r\n3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason. \r\n4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength. \r\n5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain. Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do. \r\n6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation\/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up. \r\n7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self\/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within. I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic\/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it. \r\n8) BONUS TRAIT: Time Constant. Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation: 1) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth. 2) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR - there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction from a formal chain of command. 3) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay - the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin. \r\n\r\nTwenty-Five Rules of Disinformation \r\n1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil \r\n2. Become incredulous and indignant \r\n3. Create rumor mongers \r\n4. Use a straw man \r\n5. Sidetrack opponents w name calling, ridicule \r\n6. Hit and Run \r\n7. Question motives \r\n8. Invoke authority \r\n9. Play Dumb \r\n10. Associate opponent charges with old news \r\n11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions \r\n12. Enigmas have no solution \r\n13. Alice in Wonderland Logic \r\n14. Demand complete solutions \r\n15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions \r\n16. Vanish evidence and witnesses \r\n17. Change the subject \r\n18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad \r\n19. Ignore facts, demand impossible proofs \r\n20. False evidence \r\n21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor \r\n22. Manufacture a new truth \r\n23. Create bigger distractions \r\n24. Silence critics \r\n25. Vanish \r\n","author":"Oracle","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 14:07:47","modified":"2003-09-26 14:07:47","fileurl":""},{"id":84709,"heading":"100 percent total BS !","article":"> It's easy to disguise an IP. If my real IP is 5.40.356.89, I can arrange it so that anyone else reading is sees 7.28.632.21 or anything else I choose.\r\n\r\nBS ! How stupid do you think I am ? You think that I don't know about *source routing filtering* ?\r\n\r\nYou can claim and assume any IP you like - this is true, however the routers upstream that *your ISP and others run and control* DROP packets with improper or fake source IP's.\r\n\r\nI've done tests myself on this going back 2 years to confirm it..\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nAs far as "McNigger" and Davis the rules apply for life - as you should be well aware. This is why all former presidents for example STILL have SS protection until the day they die. And it's illegal to threaten ANYBODY.\r\n\r\nWhether they'll come after you is another question. You can play your childish games on ordinary people and get by with it (for awhile) but when serious (death) threats are made toward *public officials* you're in deep shit.\r\n\r\nYou remind me of the scared child in the dark whistling to himself to stay calm\r\n\r\nla la llaaa - they don't do source routing filtering, I can claim any IP I want and they don't drop the packets making access impossible as long as my IP isn't within a certain narrowly defined and unique range\r\n\r\nla lla lala laa - I can threaten anyone I want - even public officials and they will do nothing because *I* say these people aren't important lal lalalaaa\r\n\r\n\r\n(details on source IP filtering)\r\n\r\n1.) I assigned one of my interfaces a randomly assigned IP (within the same IP block too - 4.x.x.x, just not MY sub-net) and then sent UDP echo (7) to a partener who was watching for thier arrival. Only with the source IP in my sub-net (a very small range) would the packets reach thier distination.\r\n\r\n2.) I can now generate ANY packets I choose (using wINJECT) with any IP or any other parameters I like (wINJECT allows you to construct your own packets by hand - like having raw sockets, actually even better since it completely bypasses the IP layer of your own stack and talks directly to the serial port, you can make up *anything* - even "illegal" or faulty packets)\r\n\r\n\r\nI know all about source routing filtering, besides if you DID use IP's other than your *assigned* one the return packets would never get back to you - they would be routed elsewhere...\r\n\r\nYor lies are so transparent it isn't even funny. Acting like ARP\/RARP with MAC's is some big dark secret too\r\n\r\nEither you're even more ignorant than I thought or you're *intentionally lying*. You think NOC's can't track you down ? And using those free ISP's you sit DIRECTLY behind one too ! Something else I've confirmed myself in the process of obtaining free access even when they provide no direct path to the rest of the 'net and provide DNS that only points to thier barker page...\r\n\r\nWhat the free ISP does to is route your *phone call* to whatever city is best for them before you log on to the 'net, so chicago means a quite large area... However they keep *very careful records* as I've already mentioned. You're busted.\r\n\r\nPS - 5.40.356.89 and 7.28.632.21 are NOT even real IP's, IP's range strictly from 0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255\r\n\r\nBut then of course you know this are are just DISINFORMING\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 15:10:51","modified":"2003-09-26 15:10:51","fileurl":""},{"id":84710,"heading":"GOOD! Whomever posted them MIGHT get questioned, but not me.","article":"The posts you displayed were not made by KOBEs. The Cynthia McKinney "threat" was not made by a KOBE...we dont know who posted that. But we DO know who posted the Gray Davis threat, it was Michael C. Holmes of Neenah Wisconsin. He has a police record, and beats his wife. We have already reported him to our connections in law enforcement, but they have had little to warrant serious investigation. Im GLAD you reported it. The IP belongs to Level 3 Communications, and can be traced directly to Michael C. Holmes. KOBE is sick of him spamming our forums anyway. GOOD RIDDANCE.\r\n\r\nMy point, however, is why you keep referring to the Level 3 netblock as being any way associated with MY netblock, which is totally different. I do not have any dialup accounts, and neither does any other KOBE. Dialup accounts leave very clear telephone records, and I hope Holmes is in deep shit. \r\n\r\nIf your goal is to affect KOBE in any way, then you have failed, and will continue to fail. We will be here long after you have fallen into deep dispair after having wasted your limited intellectual resources trying to unravel the KOBE mystery. Stephen DeVoy has already done everything you are trying right now, and he FAILED. He is much more intelligent than you are, and that aint sayin much! KOBE RULZ.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 15:19:47","modified":"2003-09-26 15:19:47","fileurl":""},{"id":84713,"heading":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","article":"I can change my IP at the source and no one knows where it come from unless they have the proper equipment, which isn't avaiable to the general public. All that equipment is held by the government.\r\n\r\nI can use an IP other than my "assigned" one and it will come back to me. Because you can't do it or haven't figured out how or never heard of it is something you've got to deal with, not me.\r\n\r\nSomeone could take your IP, post threats all over the internet, and it never be traced back to them, unless someone in the government with the necessary equipment is monitering it. They would trace it back to you. In fact, if you know what your doing, you can place the posting on that persons harddrive and make it appear as though it happened when you actually posted it. So, the government seizes your computer, and the footprint proving you were the one who sent it is there, even though you never did it, someone else did it in your name. Walla! You're framed!\r\n\r\nAnd, it's not illegal to threaten anybody. Left-wingers and anarchists are open season.","author":"v1","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 15:32:30","modified":"2003-09-26 15:32:30","fileurl":""},{"id":84714,"heading":"Read about KOBE SBM's mental illness.","article":"Read about KOBE SBM's mental illness: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cyber-stalking.net\/ \r\n\r\nVisit the website of one of the corporations that have provided false information to KOBE: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.gosigma.com \r\n\r\nThe above corporation is in Tucson. Given KOBE's pattern, someone should investigate whether they are also tied to the "Traitors of Tucson" project: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.google.com\/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=traitors+of+tucson\r\n\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 15:32:36","modified":"2003-09-26 15:32:36","fileurl":""},{"id":84717,"heading":"back to table pounding again are you ?","article":"You already admitted that he "used to be" kobe\r\n\r\n\r\nIt was posted as kobe and YOU ARE KOBE. That means it's ON YOU\r\n\r\nThe fact that you post as various kobes and that a large number of harassing and ILLEGAL posts come from YOUR NETBLOCKS WHERE KOBEHQ.COM is, along with the death threat by scott ON your own kobehq.com domain and the death threat by "kobe" is what hung you.\r\n\r\nAgain this little game where mostly you and a few others all interchangibly post as "kobe" but you are in fact kobe (kobehq.com) means anything that gets the ball rolling makes it roll to YOU FIRST.\r\n\r\nthe game backfired\r\n\r\nWe'll leave it to discovery to see who did this actual deed, but in all cases it goes back to "kobe"\r\n\r\nNow as to your above fake IP's and ignorance of source IP filtering combined with the other disinforming and lying games, you know I couldn't help but notice how many of the above listed tactics you use, along with the EXACT same tactics by fresca\/scottie\/nonanrchist\r\n\r\nEspecially telling is how the FACTS I bring up simply evaporate under more distracting games\r\n\r\n1.) how do I do something as simple as chain proxies, "expert" ?\r\n\r\n2.) which of the IP's I listed (4.x.x.x) are proxies and not YOU as you claimed ?\r\n\r\n3.) explain how your made-up IP's are NOT dropped upstream, "expert" ?\r\n\r\n4.) what's with the out-of-range octets (356,632), "expert" ?\r\n\r\n5.) how to non-matching packets ever make it back to you - how do you obtain 2-way *handshake* of TCP, when no return packets can come back to you ? (you could do this with UDP granted, but for *posting on a board* with TCP, HTTP there's NO WAY you can make this claim\r\n\r\n\r\nThis BS of table pounding is getting old, I've posted IP lists that go back to you, you claimed they are proxies, PROVE IT, post the IP's & ports. Or is it just yet another LIE ?\r\n\r\nAnswer my questions - your "kobehq.com" and freedom is at stake...\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 15:44:13","modified":"2003-09-26 15:44:13","fileurl":""},{"id":84721,"heading":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","article":"I'm not a kobe.\r\n\r\nI don't give away my secrets. I don't respond to silly taunts like "Your aren't answering me because you can't."\r\n\r\nGood luck on your goose chase.","author":"v1","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 15:57:27","modified":"2003-09-26 15:57:27","fileurl":""},{"id":84724,"heading":"so kobe's been the victim of a spoofing attack all this time ?","article":"> I can change my IP at the source and no one knows where it come from unless they have the proper equipment, which isn't avaiable to the general public. All that equipment is held by the government. \r\n\r\n\r\nSo a packet sniffer "isn't avaiable to the general public"\r\n\r\nI see\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> I can use an IP other than my "assigned" one and it will come back to me\r\n\r\nsure there's a way;\r\n\r\n1.) you change to an IP not in use at the time then hit the router with IGMP packets to instruct it to sends the altered IP packets to you\r\n\r\nand\/or \r\n\r\n2.) you "hijack" another IP by flooding it with ICMP 3 to "blind" it while you pull it's packets off the sub-net\r\n\r\n3.) poison the upstream ARP table\r\n\r\nMy point is that you can't get far doing this and both the IGMP and ICMP packets leave a log that shows it happening, it's very difficult to do, not something you can get by with over *hundreds of posts over a long period of time* with out one or more NOC's seeing what you're up to.\r\n\r\nWe're going into the game of "well it's possible for me to NOT be the source of my packets IF these other games are being *played the whole time*\r\n\r\nBut STATISTICLY the IP's go back to YOU, plus it's "kobe" posts going to kobehq - that's already a strong connection\r\n\r\n\r\nYou would have to be claiming *someone else was spoofing YOU* and hijacking YOUR traffic just to post as kobe and get you in trouble...\r\n\r\nAnd how likely is that ? Considering your *history of doing this exact activity of harassing\/abusing\/threatening*\r\n\r\nAgain the ball rolls to you..\r\n\r\nYou can debate "what if's" till you're blue in the face (or green) but it doesn't change the *large volume of posts ALL going back to you* - the pattern, the statistics.\r\n\r\nThe game of posting as "kobe" along with the sheer number of posts (hundreds) over-rides your weak "anything's possible" escape from this fact.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> Someone could take your IP, post threats all over the internet, and it never be traced back to them, unless someone in the government with the necessary equipment is monitering it. They would trace it back to you. In fact, if you know what your doing, you can place the posting on that persons harddrive and make it appear as though it happened when you actually posted it. \r\n\r\nNot mine, no one even KNOWS my IP - that's the whole point of being stealth and anonymous. Plus with the local security no one could place any data on the gateway or anyother node behind it.\r\n\r\nAll of those security issues are covered.\r\n\r\nYou can make those claims for yourself (as victim of someone spoofing you as kobe on death threat posts) but because of the sheer volume of posts and the timescale that's not going to wash...\r\n\r\nAnd if you have ememies that determined, I'd say you're in sorry shape anyway.\r\n\r\n\r\n Funny how you claim no one else can even be anonymous no matter what they do yet at the same time claim you are completely secure running MS OS's and apps no less !\r\n\r\nAnd that even though you ARE so much more secure and knowledable you been the victim of a spoofing attack for YEARS that you've failed to resolve or even complain about.\r\n\r\n\r\nExtraordinary !\r\n\r\nI'm still waiting on the answers to these questions;\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n1.) how do I do something as simple as chain proxies, "expert" ? \r\n\r\n2.) which of the IP's I listed (4.x.x.x) are proxies and not YOU as you claimed ? \r\n\r\n3.) what's with the out-of-range ockets (356,632), "expert" ? \r\n\r\n\r\n(I've left out the spoofing issue since it IS possible even though statistics strongly favor against it)\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 16:24:45","modified":"2003-09-26 16:24:45","fileurl":""},{"id":84729,"heading":""I'm not a kobe" - of course not !","article":"so this "v1" shows up out of nowhere agreeing with and sticking up for kobe using all the exact same BS excuses and damn near the exact same words, yet you're not kobe.\r\n\r\nso now kobe gets to continue to make any claims he wants while totally ignoring the FACTS I've challenged him to refute...\r\n\r\n\r\nHow convenient !\r\n\r\nv1 = kobe when he's sober and has a hangover and doesn't feel like being proved wrong\r\n\r\nkobe = kobe when he's drunk and will say anything - make any wild claim as long as no progress is made towards resolving the questions about his own IP's tracing back to kobehq.com \r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 16:37:22","modified":"2003-09-26 16:37:22","fileurl":""},{"id":84734,"heading":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","article":"I'm not a kobe.\r\nI'm not defending kobe.\r\nYou were saying certain things couldn't be done. They can.\r\nAnd yes, you can do them indefinately.\r\nAnd nothing will ever come back.\r\nUnless the government is out to get you.\r\nThen you could string 10,000 proxies together and they'll find you.\r\n\r\n>>so now kobe gets to continue to make any claims he wants while totally ignoring the FACTS I've challenged him to refute...<<\r\n\r\nI already did.\r\n\r\nReposted for your convienence:\r\n\r\n>>I don't give away my secrets. I don't respond to silly taunts like "Your aren't answering me because you can't." <<\r\n\r\nGood luck on your goose chase.","author":"v1","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 16:48:48","modified":"2003-09-26 16:48:48","fileurl":""},{"id":84740,"heading":"Forget it v!....after all, he's ONLY a High School dropout.","article":"He has no idea what the government can do. I watched a squadron of F177a (stealth fighters)fighters fly over our platoon at the Special Weapons Test Facility in Yuma Arizona....in 1982. The government denied their existence until Desert Storm. The routine (and very detailed) satellite photos which are now available on the internet by just punching in a street address or geographic coordinates are generated by ex-military satellites which have been in orbit for more than 20 years, and were once classified Top Secret. They have been replaced by something far FAR superior, which explains why the old ones are now in the public domain.\r\n\r\nHex is an idiot. He is a cereal-box lawyer, and a wannabe computer whiz. He is just a buffon who blows smoke, and there's not enough energy in him to generate the heat. Besides, KOBE is just the tip of the iceberg. He should sail clear, or risk getting sunk.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 17:14:07","modified":"2003-09-26 17:14:07","fileurl":""},{"id":84742,"heading":"kobe's gone - v1 takes his place","article":"> You were saying certain things couldn't be done. They can\r\n\r\n\r\nThat's not what I said, I said STATISTICLY with all the hundreds of posts with the same IP's coming out of the kobehq.com netblock which *changed as the hosting did*...\r\n\r\nyou would have to be claiming (as an "expert" so much smarter than me) YOU were being spoofed all this time by person(S) unknown making death threats as "kobe" which leads directly back to you....\r\n\r\nand you *NEVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT* and just LET this activity continue all this time while even posting on the same boards AS kobe yourself and ADMITTED YOU DID SO (above, "yes that was me")\r\n\r\n\r\neven though IP's prove you yourself post as different kobes AND several other people - in other words playing this EXACT SAME GAME of spoofing and hiding\r\n\r\n\r\nStatisticly, the chances of all this being true is less than 1\/100,000,000 (.000001 percent)\r\n\r\nwhile the chances that it's just you and you're just lying about it is over 99.9999 percent\r\n\r\n\r\nI'm not buying it, no one else on here is and the authorities sure in hell didn't...\r\n\r\nSo it's not "my" goose chase - it's out of my hands, and there's no chase to it, the IP logs go directly back to YOU - hundreds of them...\r\n\r\n\r\nYou'll have to prove to them - against a 99.9999 percent probability - that it's NOT YOU\r\n\r\ngood luck\r\n\r\nand cheer up, it'll all be over soon\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 17:22:58","modified":"2003-09-26 17:22:58","fileurl":""},{"id":84743,"heading":"jets and satellites ? - WRONG ANSWER","article":"I'm still waiting on the answers to these questions; \r\n\r\n1.) how do I do something as simple as chain proxies, "expert" ? \r\n\r\n2.) which of the IP's I listed (4.x.x.x) are proxies and not YOU as you claimed ? \r\n\r\n3.) what's with the out-of-range ockets (356,632), "expert" ? \r\n\r\n\r\nIt's pretty amusing how you cleave into multible people when a person presents facts, then when you re-appear a short time later, you act as if the questions never existed and once more resort to off-topic table pounding.\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 17:29:08","modified":"2003-09-26 17:29:08","fileurl":""},{"id":84752,"heading":"the F-177?","article":"what an idiot.\r\nha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .","author":"Ha ha ha ha ha ha","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 18:14:04","modified":"2003-09-26 18:14:04","fileurl":""},{"id":84770,"heading":"who gives a shit","article":"about you techie dorks' squabbles. go get a six pack and get laid, you will feel much better","author":"starkist","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 19:23:55","modified":"2003-09-26 19:23:55","fileurl":""},{"id":84773,"heading":"Hex","article":"Still waiting for proof I'm a racist.\r\n\r\nAnd you have the gall to whine about KOBE not answering your questions, while you refuse to answer my simply little query.\r\n\r\nCan you say, "Hypocrite"?\r\n\r\nTry again...there ya go!","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 19:49:10","modified":"2003-09-26 19:49:10","fileurl":""},{"id":84775,"heading":"oh my GOD","article":"watch out!\r\nthere is a squadron of 177(a)s coming to git you.\r\nlooser","author":" ha ha ha ha ha","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 19:53:46","modified":"2003-09-26 19:53:46","fileurl":""},{"id":84790,"heading":"hell no - I don't owe !","article":"I don't owe a troll anything\r\n\r\nAt best you're a disinformer\/distractionist\/time sink\/naysayer\r\n\r\nIP logs suggest you're either the "main" kobe or one of 2 others (dave from the military base who spends his time trolling insted of working on *our tax dollars* for a "job")\r\n\r\n\r\nIt looks like kobe and a single side-kick (dave) and only possibly one other person.. But it may very well be *only* kobe - discovery will sort it out\r\n\r\n66.51.195.184 sbm\/hq (Ned)\r\n24.130.5.30 duke (fresca\/nonanarchist\/scottie\/matt)\r\n12.75.133.147 scott (wurm or maybe scottie)\r\n\r\nSince he posts as all these and\/or you all post as eachother IP logs alone without discovery cannot say for sure, but one thing that is for sure is that you post the same distracting\/denialist\/table pounding style, almost as if you're clones (or just one person)\r\n\r\nThe style and IP's suggest first 1 person, but if not the 2-3 I pinned down by analysing almost 1,000 "kobe" posts, most with the IP listed\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 20:41:29","modified":"2003-09-26 20:41:29","fileurl":""},{"id":84824,"heading":"F117a.....GEEZ! How many "stealth fighters" are there????","article":"F117a. The point was, that they existed way before there was any acknowledgement that they did. The now infamous "NSA file" in Windows is merely an advancement on an existing method. A far better one has replaced it.\r\n\r\nHex, please try to realize that the text in the comment box will wrap all by itself. Your spaced out posts have far too many blank lines, and look quite juvenile. Yaaaaawn. Im waiting for you to "prove" that my netblock matches any "death threat". I have left milk and cookies out for the nice FBI agents, and they havent shown up yet!!!! Perhaps they would like espresso and biscotti or scones instead? I just REFUSE to do the donut thing.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 21:52:28","modified":"2003-09-26 21:52:28","fileurl":""},{"id":84827,"heading":"About KOBE's mental illness.","article":"Read about KOBE SBM's mental illness: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cyber-stalking.net\/ \r\n\r\nVisit the website of one of the corporations that have provided false information to KOBE: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.gosigma.com \r\n\r\nThe above corporation is in Tucson. Given KOBE's pattern, someone should investigate whether they are also tied to the "Traitors of Tucson" project: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.google.com\/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=traitors+of+tucson \r\n\r\n","author":"At least I'm only depressed.","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 21:58:35","modified":"2003-09-26 21:58:35","fileurl":""},{"id":84845,"heading":"the 'ol MS NSA key","article":"> A far better one has replaced it.\r\n\r\nah we're on a FUD roll tonight are we?\r\n\r\nWell kobe NDOS this !\r\n\r\n ","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 22:32:46","modified":"2003-09-26 22:32:46","fileurl":""},{"id":84846,"heading":"Hey Stevie...um I mean "At least I'm only depressed"","article":"That canned one isnt working....come up with another one please. Your "intel" is way off, as usual. The canned post you have been making isnt having any effect.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 22:37:46","modified":"2003-09-26 22:37:46","fileurl":""},{"id":84850,"heading":"KOBE SBM's mental illness.","article":"Read about KOBE SBM's mental illness: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cyber-stalking.net\/ \r\n\r\nVisit the website of one of the corporations that have provided false information to KOBE: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.gosigma.com \r\n\r\nThe above corporation is in Tucson. Given KOBE's pattern, someone should investigate whether they are also tied to the "Traitors of Tucson" project: \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.google.com\/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=traitors+of+tucson \r\n\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 22:44:32","modified":"2003-09-26 22:44:32","fileurl":""},{"id":84851,"heading":"Assertions about SDSI are not based on "Intel."","article":"The assertion about SDSI is based on a very simple proof. There is absolutely only one way that some information KOBE has published could have been obtained. Additionally, there is more evidence that backs it up.\r\n\r\nA fact is a fact, Jack.","author":"@","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 22:46:14","modified":"2003-09-26 22:46:14","fileurl":""},{"id":84858,"heading":"BWAHAHAHA! Havent you grown tired of your "facts" turning into guesses?","article":"There are always three coordinates on any plane, thus three ways to get VERIFIED information..at all times. Simple trigonometry. You only need to know two angles of a triangle to KNOW what the third one is....\r\n\r\nGod is an architect.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 22:57:37","modified":"2003-09-26 22:57:37","fileurl":""},{"id":84861,"heading":"Bullshit.","article":"Your assumption that there is a triangle is false. That's the ace up the sleave.\r\n\r\nMy proof is irrefutable. I also have other evidence.\r\n\r\nAnother ace up the sleave involves powerful contacts that you do not realize I have.\r\n\r\nFinally, the burden of proof is only anyone that accuses me of being incorrect. Any attempt to make a proof will fail due to the first ace up my sleave.\r\n\r\nI know who recruited you, why, and when.\r\n\r\nHe's going to be exposed.\r\n\r\nFinally, do you really believe that I would ever expect that ANYTHING you state is true? You are provably a pathological liar, you suffer from schizophrenia, and you are a sociopath.\r\n\r\nWhat is Jack going to do, refer to his invisble friend as evidence?\r\n\r\nThe last "bwahahaha" will be from your enemies.","author":"@","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 23:06:04","modified":"2003-09-26 23:06:04","fileurl":""},{"id":84866,"heading":"Aces up sleeves?","article":"To "have an ace up your sleeve" is to cheat.\r\n\r\nSo Stephen you are a cheat.\r\n\r\n(P.S. I bet your two aces are another pair of JOKERS!!!)\r\n\r\nLMAO at your sleeve, and everything up it!","author":"Rational Normal Person","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 23:13:36","modified":"2003-09-26 23:13:36","fileurl":""},{"id":84869,"heading":"Yet MORE "irrefutable" proof? YAWN.","article":"Could you please remind me of who Im supposed to be at the moment? I guess its now George Bullock....unless you have changed it once again. Didnt you have "irrefutable" evidence that I worked for Computers NLA, and that I was Dave Young? What about the "irrefutable" proof that my website was at Computers NLA, or that that poor grandmother in Australia was KOBE HQ?\r\n\r\nPlease refrain from using such words as "irrefutable" in conjunction with ANYTHING you write about KOBE it usually takes no more than about three or four weeks until you realize your mistakes and revise your "proof" to only "allegations".\r\n\r\nKOBE produced that video clip, and an even longer one is coming out, available in MPG format this time. Youre a star Stevie! Isnt that what you have always dreamed of? Now you can break out that pink boa and that little black dress (um...better let it out around the waist).\r\n\r\nBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 23:17:50","modified":"2003-09-26 23:17:50","fileurl":""},{"id":84873,"heading":"Oh my","article":"hmm are you saying fresca nonanarchist and I are the same person ? and we all work for KOBE SBM eh?\r\nvery ammusing.\r\n","author":"Scottie","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 23:25:15","modified":"2003-09-26 23:25:15","fileurl":""},{"id":84882,"heading":"I have a question for the reader","article":"Does anyone else find this proxy puppet match as stupid as I do?\r\nUN believable. If this psyops tag team ever gets the idea that we are only amused, maybe they will try something new. But first they have to be creative which is unlikely.\r\nThis is worse then the Republicans vs. Democrats but just as phony.","author":"whatmeworry","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 23:43:06","modified":"2003-09-26 23:43:06","fileurl":""},{"id":84884,"heading":"And Cheese!","article":"Don't forget about Cheese!\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/boston.indymedia.org\/front.php3?article_id=16722&group=\r\nCheese, what you do it really evil. (english) \r\n@ 3:58am Mon Sep 22 '03 \r\n comment#16744 \r\n\r\n\r\nHow long have you been using your forum to collect information for the purpose of feeding it the JDL? Also, "Cheese" as your KOBE friends go down, you will find yourself an accessory to their online crimes, which include death threats, fraud, identity theft, and online hate crimes against Arabs and Muslims. \r\n\r\nYes, "Cheese", I openly posted on your forum in order to let you know that I am no longer worried about the effects of your criminal operation. That is why I posted my URL. \r\n\r\nI stand by my statements. Soon I will be writing an article linking you, the KOBE operation, and several other online forums. These forums to be covered in the article are demonstrably linked to the JDL and US law enforcement. \r\n\r\nHow is your alternate forum hosted in Israel doing?\r\n \r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Cheese","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 23:44:54","modified":"2003-09-26 23:44:54","fileurl":""},{"id":84887,"heading":"this was good enough","article":"> Didnt you have "irrefutable" evidence that I worked for Computers NLA\r\n\r\nThe above (and the URL) was good enough for the authorities\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-09-26 23:55:00","modified":"2005-08-15 01:42:02","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/ned-kobe.jpglvnmap.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/ned-kobe.jpglvnmap.jpg"}},{"id":84888,"heading":"Great!","article":"You yet again nailed Michael C Homes as the poster.\r\n\r\n","author":"Rational Normal Person","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-26 23:59:27","modified":"2003-09-26 23:59:27","fileurl":""},{"id":84889,"heading":"backpeddling on already proven facts ?","article":"> the "irrefutable" proof that my website was at Computers NLA\r\n\r\nAnd this was too - netcraft's own logs prove it","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-09-27 00:00:14","modified":"2005-08-15 01:42:02","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/kobe-ned.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/kobe-ned.jpg"}},{"id":84900,"heading":"Obviously Photoshoped","article":"Quite a lousy photoshop job there hex.\r\n\r\nNext time at least smooth out the pixelation around the text.\r\n\r\nAs good as refuted.","author":"fresca","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-27 00:35:03","modified":"2003-09-27 00:35:03","fileurl":""},{"id":84905,"heading":"Oh - now these are fake too - figures !","article":"http:\/\/uptime.netcraft.com\/up\/graph\/?host=kobehq.com\r\n\r\nSee for yourself\r\n\r\nand those are jpeg artifacts idiot\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-27 00:53:55","modified":"2003-09-27 00:53:55","fileurl":""},{"id":84907,"heading":"Hex that is old data...","article":"It only shows what KOBE has stated!\r\n\r\nBy the way.... try GIF..\r\n\r\nThe shit you post has limited colors.","author":"Rational Normal Person","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-27 01:00:32","modified":"2003-09-27 01:00:32","fileurl":""},{"id":84909,"heading":"Yep","article":"Of course the link is broken.\r\n\r\nIllustrator wouldd give you much cleaner lines.\r\n\r\nVector and all.","author":"fresca","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-27 01:21:11","modified":"2003-09-27 01:21:11","fileurl":""},{"id":84913,"heading":"Yes, they are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Look at the fucking numbers, MORON!","article":"\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n \r\n \r\n
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OrgName:    Internet Allegiance, Inc.<\/font><\/b>\r\nOrgID:      IALG\r\nAddress:    1950 Stemmons Freeway\r\nCity:       Dallas\r\nStateProv:  TX\r\nPostalCode: 75207\r\nCountry:    US\r\n\r\nNetRange:   67.152.0.0 - 67.155.255.255<\/b>\r\n<\/pre>\r\n\r\n<\/body>\r\n\r\n<\/html>\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2003-09-27 01:28:55","modified":"2003-09-27 01:28:55","fileurl":""},{"id":84914,"heading":"here's a fresh screen grab - I JUST took","article":"> It only shows what KOBE has stated! \r\n\r\n\r\nTHIS is what he stated;\r\n\r\n> the "irrefutable" proof that my website was at Computers NLA \r\n\r\n\r\nnotice the WAS\r\n\r\nand that's exactly what it shows - was\r\n\r\n\r\nthe link is not broken, netcraft is just running a bit slow tonight.\r\n\r\n(I fetched the damned page to varify the URL right before I posted it and just checked again - here's a FRESH screen capture)\r\n\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-09-27 01:36:24","modified":"2005-08-15 01:42:02","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/fresh.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/09\/fresh.jpg"}},{"id":84916,"heading":"Ned Lyle is the owner of Computers NLA. He owns his netblock","article":"All of this has been thoroughly gone over , and you just dont want to accept the facts. I wish I could remember which thread that picture of you was posted on. You said that the pic was 20 years old, and I could see that your glasses were pretty thick then. Ill bet that they are considerably thicker now, arent they. Maybe you need to get a new set? \r\n\r\nWHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DENY THE FUCKING FACTS?\r\n\r\nEach time you post anything regarding this issue, you just provide more evidence in my behalf. I have been saying the same thing all along, since DeVoy tried to make the connection long ago. LOGS DONT LIE. Neither do network octets naming the network. You DO prove that Michael Holmes is the one who posted the Gray Davis threat, and Im glad you did it. I have pages and pages of server logs (ACTUAL server logs from my webserver, not some third party web-based shit like Netcraft) which prove that Holmes also spammed the KOBE forums and several other websites.\r\n\r\nI will not be drawn into another useless argument about this issue. Believe whatever you want to believe. You really should have gotten an education. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-27 01:39:44","modified":"2003-09-27 01:39:44","fileurl":""},{"id":84918,"heading":"I'm not the one you need to convince","article":"> Look at the fucking numbers, MORON!\r\n\r\n\r\npounding again are we ?\r\n\r\n\r\nFunny though with the kobe and ned lyle and the e-mail and the history it was *good enough for them*\r\n\r\n\r\nAnd I see you've changed yet again two days ago, hmmmmmm -\r\n\r\n4.42.2.74 - back to Genuity again are you ?\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n> the "irrefutable" proof that my website was at Computers NLA \r\n\r\n\r\nAccording to netcraft kobehq.com was hosted by ned (owner of Computers NLA)\r\n\r\nA fresh screen grab too..\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/uptime.netcraft.com\/up\/graph\/?host=kobehq.com\r\n","author":"Hex anon w\/ encryption","parent_id":84004,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-09-27 01:46:11","modified":"2003-09-27 01:46:11","fileurl":""},{"id":84919,"heading":"Now Im thoroughlu convinced that you use drugs.","article":"I will simply repost what I wrote to you before. I told you when KOBE Headquarters was posted at Computers NLA, so here it is AGAIN\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<\/head>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n
Im bored with this \r\ntripe. Its a fucking rerun, and I wanna watch something else.<\/strong><\/a>
\r\nby KOBE SBM Monday September 15, 2003 11:01 PM<\/em>
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OH     MY     GOD.  Now Im convinced that drugs really DO destroy the brain, \r\nstarting with the logic centers, progressing to cognitive processes, then to \r\noutright delusion and paranoia. Listen very very closely, Hex. I'm going to post \r\nthis once, and only once, because I am SO tired of playing with you little boy. \r\nHere are the facts, plain and simple. you will not be able to twist them in any \r\nsort of pretzel to make the ends come together, because they simply DON'T.<\/p>\r\n