{"article":{"id":80160,"heading":"ANTI-ZIONIST HATE MACHINE","author":"Meyer London","created":"2003-08-30 15:16:42","modified":"2003-08-30 19:10:18","last_modified":"Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:10:18","article":"<p>Excuse me, people. <br>  <br> It was a type error in my previous post. <br>  <br> Here is a lttle correction: <br><br> Amazing how any criticism of  AntiZionism as a racist ideology immediatly gets right-wing   <br>  <br> nazi AntiZionists ( because All nazis are AntiZionist) <br>  <br> frothing at the mouth.  <br><br> Yes, I am aryan supremacist  impersonating  \"meyer London\", a \"good jew\". SO WHAT ? <br>  <br> WHO gives a shit ? <br>  <br> Since all nazis are actually anti-zionists, all what I wrote above is a crap. <br><br> p.s.  anti.zionist racist  and  Anti-Zionism today are using the same PR tactics that the  NSDAP and Nazi-Germany  used in the days of  Hitler. <br><br>  Why are you upset when  I pretending a \"good jew\" ? <br>  <br> We  have right to lie, because WE are the real aryan supremacists. <br><br> <\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"Amazing how any criticism of  AntiZionism as a racist ideology immediatly gets right-wing  \r\nnazi AntiZionists ( because All nazis are AntiZionist)\r\nfrothing at the mouth. \r\n","numcomment":8,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/08\/80160.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":80161,"heading":"look at me","article":"here is me in my Sunday best\r\nI'm checking evil ZZZZZZZZZZionist under my bed","author":"Anti-Zionist","parent_id":80160,"mime_type":"image\/jpeg","created":"2003-08-30 15:21:44","modified":"2005-08-15 01:39:52","fileurl":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/08\/lol.jpg","image":{"original":"\/usr\/local\/www-domains\/la.indymedia.org\/public\/uploads\/2003\/08\/lol.jpg"}},{"id":80163,"heading":"aisha002002@yahoo.com","article":"I posted the two asinine comments above. I'm a former KOBE member. Please hack and spam my email. Some beastiality and she-male porn would be nice.","author":"aisha002002@yahoo.com","parent_id":80160,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-08-30 15:25:44","modified":"2003-08-30 15:25:44","fileurl":""},{"id":80164,"heading":"Brilliant piece changes my mind","article":"     The brilliant writing by this person who steals other posters' handles has changed my mind completely; now I favor gestapo tactics by the IDF, colonization of Arab land by religious fanatics from the United States, the jailing of whistle-blowers who expose Israel's nuclear weapons of mass destruction, the bull-dozing of that worthless floozy Rachel Corey, the alliance between Zionists and certifiable lunatics like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, the torture of prisoners, firing missles at houses and cars, and the theft of as much Arab land as possible in order to create &quot;facts on the ground.&quot;  See what brilliant thinking and literary skill can accomplish?","author":"Former defender of Palestinian rights","parent_id":80160,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-08-30 16:31:44","modified":"2003-08-30 16:31:44","fileurl":""},{"id":80171,"heading":"False logic leads to false conclusions.","article":"The lead article uses the following logical error in order to construct a false argument.\r\n\r\nFalse logical construction:\r\n\r\nIf A implies B.\r\nB\r\nA\r\n\r\nFor example,\r\n\r\nPeople use umbrellas when it rains.\r\n(e.g. if it is raining then people are using umbrellas).\r\nPeople are using ubrellas.\r\nTherefore, it is raining.\r\n\r\nHowever, the above argument is false.  People also use umbrellas to protect against the sun, for fashion, in store displays, etc.  Therefore, the use of umbrellas does not imply that it is raining.\r\n\r\nThe form of this logical untruth is:\r\n\r\nIf A implies B then B implies A.\r\n\r\nHowever, it is not true that whenever A implies B, B implies A.  For example, if I were to state that:\r\n\r\nFlooding implies that the ground is wet.\r\n\r\nI could not say, and be correct, that wet ground implies flooding, for the ground could be we due to dew or rain and not flooding.\r\n\r\nIn logic, this truth is stated:\r\n\r\nA implies B does not equal B implies A.\r\n\r\nThe argument in the lead post takes the false form mentioned at the beginning of this comment:\r\n\r\nA implies B\r\nB\r\nA\r\n\r\nor, as stated by the irrational abnormal person that posted it:\r\n\r\nIf person X is an anti-Semite, then person X is an anti-Zionist.\r\nPerson X is a Zionist.\r\nTherefore, Person X is an anti-Semite.\r\n\r\nIf the irrational abnormal person had stated:\r\n\r\nIf person X is an anti-Semite, then person X is an anti-Zionist.\r\nPerson X is an anti-Semite.\r\nTherefore, Person X is an anti-Zionist.\r\n\r\nhe would have been logically correct (provided Person X was, in fact, an anti-Semite).\r\n\r\nHowever, there is NOTHING in the nature of opposing Zionism that requires anti-Semitism as a motivation.  After all, if such an assertion were true, one could conclude that there is something in the nature of being an anti-Nazi thatn requires hatred for the Germans for reason of their race.\r\n\r\nThe real truth is that what makes a political philosophy racist is the characteristic of putting the needs, desires, and rights of one group above another based on heritage, race, or religion.  Both Nazism and Zionism share that same quality.  They both favor one specific group based on heritage, race, or religion and disfavors others that do not share these.\r\n\r\nTherefore, from a logical point of view, the very same thing that makes Nazis racist makes Zionists racist as well.  Furthermore, from an economic point of view, both Israel and Nazi Germany are fascist.\r\n\r\nThe last flaw in the argument is that assumption that:\r\nif X is a Nazi than X is an anti-Zionist.  If you noticed, we used anti-Semite rather than Nazi in our argument.  The fact is that the Nazis were PRO-ZIONIST.  They helped the Zionist movement, provided it with funds, and did what they could to ship Jews to Palestine before the war was in full swing.  Hitler wanted to rid Europe of Jews and Zionism was one of his tools.\r\n\r\nSo, there you have, more proof that George Bullock of KOBE (and Computers NLA) is not only a liar, mentally unstable, a stalker, and a fool, but would fail introductory logical as well.","author":"@","parent_id":80160,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-08-30 17:42:10","modified":"2003-08-30 17:42:10","fileurl":""},{"id":80172,"heading":"im a scum of the Earth","article":"I posted the two  imbecilic comments above. \r\n\r\nI'm a  KKK member. Please hack and spam my email. Some beastiality and AntiZio  porn would be nice.\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Anti-Zionist","parent_id":80160,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-08-30 17:45:12","modified":"2003-08-30 17:45:12","fileurl":""},{"id":80173,"heading":"excuse me, it was a type error above","article":"Just a little correction to my post above.\r\n\r\nAll nazis were and are actually anti-zionists.\r\nEverybody knows that.\r\n\r\n","author":"@","parent_id":80160,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-08-30 18:06:37","modified":"2003-08-30 18:06:37","fileurl":""},{"id":80175,"heading":"The ZionNazi kiddies are now spoofing handles.","article":"Once again, George Bullock of Computers NLA is spoofing handles.  The immediately prior post under the name &quot;@&quot; was not posted by the same individual that posted the inital message under &quot;@&quot;.  Of course, using your intelligence, something that George Bullock lacks, you can determine that for yourself.","author":"George Bullock is a fascist.","parent_id":80160,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-08-30 18:41:52","modified":"2003-08-30 18:41:52","fileurl":""},{"id":80177,"heading":"Handle","article":"Maybe he could write in as Michael Savage or Ann Coulter; that is where he gets all his ideas anyway.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":80160,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-08-30 19:10:29","modified":"2003-08-30 19:10:29","fileurl":""}]}