{"article":{"id":68381,"heading":"Dean vs. Kucinich - comparision in a nutshell","author":"repost","created":"2003-06-30 07:03:16","modified":"2003-06-30 09:45:14","last_modified":"Mon, 30 Jun 2003 16:45:14","article":"<p align=\"center\">The following is taken from&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p align=\"center\">http:\/\/www.bobharris.com\/kucinichdean.html\r\n<\/p>\r\n<p align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p align=\"center\">&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p align=\"center\"><strong>Kucinich\r\nv. Dean<\/strong><\/p>\r\n<p align=\"center\">Where broad\r\nagreement exists, I've omitted the issue to save space.<br>\r\nI've also omitted issues where one candidate has no stated position I could\r\nfind,<br>\r\neven though this is a measure of a candidate's relative concern for and\r\nfamiliarity with issues.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nThe main sources are the candidates' own websites, plus a whole lot of searching\r\nvia Google.<br>\r\nI can't promise every detail is correct; this is one guy's best effort.<\/p>\r\n<p align=\"center\">Full\r\ndisclosure: I have several friends on the Kucinich campaign, and I supported him\r\nwhen this started.<br>\r\nA few months ago, I was even going to join up, but since I'm in the media,\r\ndecided it was better to be independent.<br>\r\nI was also very interested in Dean for a while, around February and March, until\r\nI decided to support Kucinich.<br>\r\nMake of that whatever you will.<\/p>\r\n<p align=\"center\">Finally,\r\nDean is basically a good guy, and if he's nominated I'll vote for him in a\r\nheartbeat.<br>\r\nIt's just that it's simply not accurate to refer to him as a progressive\r\ncandidate.<br>\r\nAs he told <em>Salon<\/em>: <u>\"I\r\ndon't mind being characterized as 'liberal' -- I just don't happen to think it's\r\ntrue.\"<\/u><br>\r\nI'm also not saying that Kucinich's positions are the \"right\" ones on\r\nevery issue;<br>\r\nI just personally agree with him on most of them, and I think other progressives\r\nwill, too.<br>\r\n<br>\r\nPS: I had not the slightest idea how many people would visit this page.<br>\r\nAccording to Memeufacture, a link here from TalkLeft quickly spread all over the\r\nliberal blogosphere.<br>\r\nThanks, cool, great -- but I'm not an expert, just a guy trying to figure this\r\nout.<br>\r\nI've tried to correct any mistakes brought to my attention, but I do make them.<br>\r\n<em>Do your own research and thinking.<\/em><br>\r\n<\/p>\r\n<table cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"5\" width=\"80%\" align=\"center\" border=\"1\">\r\n  \r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td width=\"21%\">\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Issue<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td width=\"39%\">\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Dennis\r\n          Kucinich<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td width=\"40%\">\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Howard Dean<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Health care\r\n          plan<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Canadian-style\r\n          single-payer system, extending the successes of Medicare, financed by\r\n          a tax on employers lower than the current cost of private insurance\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <p align=\"center\">Complex\r\n        4-prong plan, extending multiple state and federal programs piecemeal,\r\n        combined with tax credits and incentives, all of which Dean claims is\r\n        more likely to become law, but still won't cover everyone<\/p>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Death\r\n          penalty<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Opposes\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Favors for\r\n          \"extreme\" crimes like terrorism or the killing of a police\r\n          officer, although critical of Bush administration's\r\n          \"careless\" approach to executions\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Roe v. Wade<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Pro-life until\r\n          recently; now the only candidate pledging to make Roe v. Wade a\r\n          \"litmus test\" for appointing federal judges\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Pro-choice, but\r\n          refuses to make Roe v. Wade a litmus test for federal judges\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Kyoto\r\n          treaty<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Supports\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Says we must\r\n          \"take another look,\" but has \"concerns\" about some\r\n          provisions\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Patriot Act<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Only presidential\r\n          candidate who personally voted against it\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Would repeal\r\n          \"parts,\" but also wants to expand intelligence agencies;\r\n          praises Russ Feingold as only <em>Senator<\/em> who opposed the act,\r\n          ignoring Kucinich's vocal House opposition, falsely implying no other\r\n          candidate opposed the Patriot Act\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>NAFTA\/WTO<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Full withdrawal, to\r\n          replace with fair trade; opposes \"fast track\" treatment of\r\n          any future trade legislation; personally marched in Seattle protests\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Notes problems with\r\n          \"free\" trade, suggesting the need for inclusion of human\r\n          rights, environmental, and labor standards in trade agreements -- but\r\n          still pro-NAFTA\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>\"Star\r\n          Wars\" ballistic missile system<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Would abolish; has\r\n          sponsored legislation banning weapons from space\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Would cut only 1\/8\r\n          of the funding, transferring it to international threat-reduction\r\n          programs\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Pentagon\r\n          waste<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Would cut Pentagon\r\n          programs which don't even work, like the V-22, F-22, and \"Star\r\n          Wars,\" and demand accountability for over a $1 trillion in\r\n          \"lost\" funds\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Disagrees with any\r\n          proposed Pentagon cutbacks, and advocates aggressive expansion of\r\n          intelligence, police, and special forces\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Balanced\r\n          budget<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          A long-term goal,\r\n          but deficits may be necessary in the short run for economic and social\r\n          investment\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          A main priority --\r\n          even equating it with social progress: \"we cannot have social\r\n          justice without a sound fiscal foundation\" -- describing himself\r\n          as \"to the right of Bush\" on the issue\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Gun control<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Supports federal\r\n          gun control legislation, and sponsored a bill calling for child safety\r\n          devices on all new handguns\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Supports closing\r\n          the gun show loophole, but opposes other new federal regulation;\r\n          considers guns a states' rights issue; an \"A\" rating from\r\n          NRA most of his career\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Medical\r\n          marijuana<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Supports\r\n          compassionate use\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Firmly opposed,\r\n          although promises to abide by a proposed FDA evaluation\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>War on\r\n          drugs<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Proposes\r\n          European-style treatment of addiction as a medical, not criminal\r\n          problem, with attendant reductions in crime and violence\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Has accepted\r\n          National Governors Association position: more federal funding for all\r\n          aspects of the drug war; however, also speaks of drug use as a medical\r\n          problem, and has called the War on Drugs a failure; website and recent\r\n          speeches simply do not clarify what policies he would pursue, as far\r\n          as I can tell\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Gay rights<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Believes gay and\r\n          straight couples should be 100% equal before the law, including Social\r\n          Security and domestic-partner benefits; supports federal civil union\r\n          legislation\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Signed a civil\r\n          union (not gay marriage) bill, but opposes similar national laws as a\r\n          states' rights issue\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Energy<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Supports investment\r\n          in solar, wind, ocean, and other clean energy; risked career to\r\n          prevent a power monopoly in Cleveland, saving taxpayers over $200\r\n          million\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Supports investment\r\n          in alternative energy and energy efficiency<em>; <\/em>however, has\r\n          sided with Vermont state utilities on most issues\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Political\r\n          experience<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <p align=\"center\">Has\r\n        held local, state, and federal office for a total of 17 years. Four-term\r\n        member of Congress, since 1997. Currently chair of the Progressive\r\n        Caucus, largest Democratic caucus in Congress.<\/p>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Vermont state\r\n          legislator, 1982-86; Lt. Governor, 1986-91; Governor, 1991-2002.\r\n          Former chair, National Governors Association.\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Iraq war<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Opposed staunchly\r\n          from the beginning, has never wavered\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Firmly opposed,\r\n          before, although he told the <em>L.A. Times<\/em> in January that he\r\n          would support unilateral action if Iraq had WMDs; softened his\r\n          rhetoric again in March, once the war began, explaining in\r\n          conservative South Carolina, \"it's hard to criticize the\r\n          President when you've got troops in the field... we all have got to\r\n          support the troops;\" now again firmly opposed, and highly vocal\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Personal<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Lifelong member of\r\n          the working class. Grew up so poor that his family lived in a car more\r\n          than once. Currently a vegan.\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Patrician\r\n          upbringing. Speaks harshly about negative environmental impact of SUVs.\r\n          Drives an SUV (a Chevy Suburban).\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Wellstone\r\n          connections<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Wellstone was a\r\n          proud member of the Progressive Caucus, which Kucinich leads\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Stole the\r\n          \"democratic wing of the democratic party\" line from\r\n          Wellstone after his death\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Ambition<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Began campaign\r\n          late, in part because he was busy organizing anti-war voices in\r\n          Congress\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Vermont newspapers\r\n          had to sue to get Dean's 2002 schedule as Governor; Dean spent almost\r\n          all of the year out the state, and didn't want his constituents to\r\n          know\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n    <tr>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          <strong>Home state<\/strong>\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Ohio, 21 electoral\r\n          votes\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n      <td>\r\n        <div align=\"center\">\r\n          Vermont, 3\r\n          electoral votes\r\n        <\/div>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n    <\/tr>\r\n  \r\n<\/table>\r\n<p align=\"center\"><br>\r\nBack to this site's Kucinich page, featuring Kucinich Komix by Scott Bateman<\/p>\r\n\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"good quick summary","numcomment":1,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/06\/68381.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":68400,"heading":"I dont get it","article":"One candidate wants to essentially ban guns federally,\r\nand the other nut wants ban guns by the state\r\nBoth violators of the 2nd amendment.\r\n\r\nOne candidate dosent want to cut military spending\r\nThe other one wants to cut a &quot;few&quot; out.\r\n\r\nBoth are essentially anti abortion\r\n\r\nBoth have fucked up systems of health care.\r\n\r\nand the list is contiuous.\r\n\r\nTHE TWO ARE ONE OF THE SAME\r\nPS\r\n\r\n&quot;HELP US, PLEASE, WE'RE STUCK IN A NUTSHELL&quot;","author":"constitution","parent_id":68381,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-30 09:45:14","modified":"2003-06-30 09:45:14","fileurl":""}]}