{"article":{"id":61209,"heading":"Noam Chomsky on US Strategy (Audio Files \/ MP3)","author":"ziggy","created":"2003-06-01 17:27:46","modified":"2006-11-24 17:56:05","last_modified":"Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:56:05","article":"<table>\r\n  <tr>\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" bg colspan=\"2\">\r\n      <table cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"458\" align=\"left\" ceallpadding=\"0\">\r\n        \r\n          <tr>\r\n            <td valign=\"top\" align=\"left\" width=\"90%\"><b>No-U-Turn\r\n              Audio\/Video Series:<br>\r\n              Noam Chomsky on US Strategy<\/b><\/td>\r\n            <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"10%\"><b>Length:<\/b>\r\n              <b>91:21<\/b><\/td>\r\n          <\/tr>\r\n        \r\n      <\/table>\r\n    <\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Subtitle:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>Iraq and the US Imperial Grand Strategy<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Summary:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>Professor Chomsky addresses the Iraq invasion by looking at the motives\r\n      of the war planners; the forces behind them, what sort of government is\r\n      likely to emerge in Iraq, implications for NATO and the EU, and\r\n      implications for the peace movement<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Featuring:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>Noam Chomsky<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Type:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>Speech<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Recorded:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>05\/29\/2003<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Recorded At:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>Arlington, MA, USA<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Producer:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>Martin Voelker<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Uploaded\r\n      By:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>MV<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Uploaded On:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>05\/31\/2003\r\n    <\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"10%\"><b>Keywords:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>Chomsky Iraq Foreign policy<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Restrictions:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td>For non-profit use only.<br>\r\n      Contact producer for permission to broadcast.<br>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n    <td valign=\"top\" align=\"right\" width=\"100\"><b>Notes:<\/b><\/td>\r\n    <td bg>\r\n      <p align=\"justify\">Also available on video (professionally filmed), esp.\r\n      for cable access showing.<br>\r\n      <\/p>\r\n    <\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr bg>\r\n    <td colspan=\"2\" height=\"2\">&nbsp;\\;<\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n  <tr>\r\n    <td colspan=\"2\">\r\n      <table cellspacing=\"0\" width=\"100%\">\r\n        \r\n          <tr>\r\n            <td><b>Chomsky talk only<\/b><\/td>\r\n            <td><b>Language: English<\/b><\/td>\r\n            <td><b>&nbsp;<\/b><\/td>\r\n          <\/tr>\r\n        \r\n      <\/table>\r\n      <table width=\"100%\" border=\"1\">\r\n        \r\n          <tr valign=\"top\">\r\n            <td width=\"20\" bg><b>Seg<\/b><\/td>\r\n            <td width=\"100\" bg><b>Title<\/b><\/td>\r\n            <td width=\"100\" bg><b>Length<\/b><\/td>\r\n            <td width=\"100\" bg><b>File\r\n              Info<\/b><\/td>\r\n            <td width=\"50\" bg><b>Download<\/b><\/td>\r\n            <td width=\"50\" bg><b>Play<\/b><\/td>\r\n          <\/tr>\r\n          <tr>\r\n            <td>1<\/td>\r\n            <td>Chomsky talk only<\/td>\r\n            <td>63:01<\/td>\r\n            <td>64 kbps MP3 (28.84 MB)<\/td>\r\n            <td align=\"middle\">FTP<br>\r\n              HTTP<\/td>\r\n            <td align=\"middle\">Play<\/td>\r\n          <\/tr>\r\n          <tr>\r\n            <td>2<\/td>\r\n            <td>Chomsky Q&amp;A only<\/td>\r\n            <td>28:20<\/td>\r\n            <td>64 kbps MP3 (12.91 MB)<\/td>\r\n            <td align=\"middle\">FTP<br>\r\n              HTTP<\/td>\r\n            <td align=\"middle\">Play<\/td>\r\n          <\/tr>\r\n        \r\n      <\/table>\r\n      <\/td>\r\n  <\/tr>\r\n<\/table>\r\n \n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"repost from Radio4All.net and No U-Turn Radio (large files, not dial-up friendly, but I might make a smaller file version if asked nicely ;-)","numcomment":35,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/06\/61209.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":88177,"heading":"Noam Chomksy Books","article":"here is a good place to <a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.stargeek.com\/noam_chomsky_books.html&quot;>Buy Noam Chomsky Books<\/a>","author":"Dan Zarrella","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2003-10-10 21:08:02","modified":"2003-10-10 21:08:02","fileurl":""},{"id":88181,"heading":"Noam Chomsky Books","article":"Here's another great place to get Noam Chomsky books:\r\n\r\nwww.pseudointellectualAmericahaterpaidwithtaxdollars.com.","author":"nonanarchist","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-10 21:14:59","modified":"2003-10-10 21:14:59","fileurl":""},{"id":88199,"heading":"problems","article":"having trouble.\nfile not found.\nI'll try again later, thank you.","author":"Epper","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-10 22:08:08","modified":"2003-10-10 22:08:08","fileurl":""},{"id":88214,"heading":"Chumpsky rides again","article":"File not found eh?  Looks like fate has dealt you a favour.  You can now spend the time that would have been wasted listening to the cynical ravings of Chumpski by going for a walk and clearing the dope out of your head.","author":"Barney","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-10 23:38:37","modified":"2003-10-10 23:38:37","fileurl":""},{"id":88216,"heading":"I might just try it sometime","article":"But the only dope is you.\r\nProfessor Chomssy is well beyond your ability to deal with.\r\nGlad it pisses you off.\r\nI have some problems with him, but recounting history from mainstream sources isn't one of them.\r\nYou are either a fool or a spook or both.","author":"Epper","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-10 23:44:15","modified":"2003-10-10 23:44:15","fileurl":""},{"id":88316,"heading":"Name Calling Usual Right Wing Tactic","article":"When you can refute his analysis on a point by point basis,then you will have more credibility. Just calling him a name and then high fiving each other shows the adolescent nature of the discourse you cheap labor conservatives provide.","author":"krankyman","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-11 12:28:06","modified":"2003-10-11 12:28:06","fileurl":""},{"id":88319,"heading":"kranyman","article":"you're correct but I wasn't aware that anyone really paid any attention to what the moron from Texas posted.  Waste of time. ","author":"hunter","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-11 12:35:14","modified":"2003-10-11 12:35:14","fileurl":""},{"id":88442,"heading":"All you need to know about Chumpsky","article":"All you need to know about that campus freak is that he regarded Pol Pot as a hero.\r\n\r\nYou probably already know that, so I'm prolly wasting my time talking to Marxist flat-earthers.\r\n\r\n","author":"Barney","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-12 01:49:47","modified":"2003-10-12 01:49:47","fileurl":""},{"id":88448,"heading":"blarny","article":"BS! show a link or reference.\r\nYou have squealed this before without any reference.\r\nYou're at it again.  Provide varifacation.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-12 02:10:38","modified":"2003-10-12 02:10:38","fileurl":""},{"id":88449,"heading":"PS","article":"I'll wait for your quote from Chomsky.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-12 02:12:56","modified":"2003-10-12 02:12:56","fileurl":""},{"id":88465,"heading":"Here ya go Sheepdog, this'll set ya straight","article":"Swallow this down, you might not like it at first but it's for your own good.  It's about time the scales fell from your eyes.","author":"Barney","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-12 04:34:31","modified":"2003-10-12 04:34:31","fileurl":""},{"id":88482,"heading":"further information required","article":"I take it you mean this paragraph.  Tell you what give me a page that this refers to and I'll read it to see if in fact this is true and not some distortion.  I have read most of Chomsky's works and don't remember this.\r\n\r\n-Although information was hard to come by, Chomsky suggested in an article in 1977 that post-war Cambodia was probably similar to France after liberation at the end of World War II when thousands of enemy collaborators were massacred within a few months. [...]This was to be expected, he said, and was a small price to pay for the positive outcomes of the new government of Pol Pot[...] Chomsky cited a book by two American left-wing authors, Gareth Porter and George Hildebrand, who had \u201cpresented a carefully documented study of the destructive American impact on Cambodia and the success of the Cambodian revolutionaries in overcoming it, giving a very favorable picture of their programs and policies.\u201d-\r\n\r\nI like to check out things for myself.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-12 22:31:54","modified":"2013-11-11 00:26:43","fileurl":""},{"id":88488,"heading":"True","article":"He doesn't deserve the attention he gets, I only intervene here because I'm concerned that his cynical propaganda will destroy the lives of talented young people with a lot to offer to society.\r\n\r\nChumpsky is a cynical manipulator of the truth but of course those who are older and wiser see that he reveals himself as a charlatan by what he chooses to omit from his account of history.\r\n\r\nHe's a bad man, because he's intelligent enough to know that he's doing wrong, but not clever enough to stop himself from going over the edge into untruth.  \r\n\r\nHe's a bitter little man driven by envy and hatred and he doen't care how many young lives he wrecks along the way.","author":"Barney","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 00:22:21","modified":"2003-10-13 00:22:21","fileurl":""},{"id":88491,"heading":"ahh, I thought so...","article":"so the quote from Chomsky was bogus and there is no reference.\r\nTypical smoke.\r\nBut hey,  you've got monkeyboy on your side (assuming you are different individuals) to couple your IQ into some greater than your shoe size.\r\nOh no!\r\nI'm attacking the carrier pigions...","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 01:13:42","modified":"2003-10-13 01:13:42","fileurl":""},{"id":88492,"heading":"Nothing bogus here, sheepdog","article":"Your mentor Chumpsky is on record defending the slaughter committed by Pol Pot, comparing it to postwar France, oddly enough.\r\n\r\nDid you like the article?  It's important in life to keep a sense of balance.","author":"Barney","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 01:42:42","modified":"2003-10-13 01:42:42","fileurl":""},{"id":88493,"heading":"for your education","article":"pick a quote from chomsky and then search for that quote and &quot;lies&quot; or some other appropriate word.\r\nYou will find lots of web sites.. here is one for starting you off\r\nhttp:\/\/www.chomskywatch.blogspot.com\/\r\njust one out of a million\r\n","author":"Scottie","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 01:48:40","modified":"2003-10-13 01:48:40","fileurl":""},{"id":88498,"heading":"Scottie, me laudy","article":"\r\nthanks for all the links\r\nYour blog spot is cute.  It must have taken a lot of time.  \r\nRants about out of context segments of his speeches.  Lots\r\nof indignation and vitriol but little support for the criticisms.\r\nthanks but, no thanks, I hate commercial interruptions.\r\n\r\nBut hey I got this link out of your blog spot with a search engine and retrieved the original speech!\r\nCool.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.scottishpsc.org.uk\/Act\/act_events_chomsky.html","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 02:40:23","modified":"2003-10-13 02:40:23","fileurl":""},{"id":88501,"heading":"or this one","article":"http:\/\/www.thirdworldtraveler.com\/Chomsky\/Rollback_Part1_Chom.html\r\nthese are really nice links.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 02:58:37","modified":"2003-10-13 02:58:37","fileurl":""},{"id":88503,"heading":"focus on this, monkeyboy","article":"But first you have to 'pull it into the light', if you get mah drift.\r\nNow do some push ups,","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 03:05:42","modified":"2003-10-13 03:05:42","fileurl":""},{"id":88504,"heading":"on the count- front leaning 'rest' position!","article":"this means you, fatso.\r\non the the count move.  I want at least 40, you got 6 hours.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 03:10:06","modified":"2003-10-13 03:10:06","fileurl":""},{"id":88520,"heading":"mmmm","article":"sheepo.. thats just the first thing that I found at random. the point is there are THOUSANDS of sites like that.\r\n\r\nanyway\r\nfrom that one i note\r\n\r\n>In countries like ours, its condemnation, the loss of job opportunities\r\n\r\n- noam obviously doesnt have a problem with this. it seems that talking out about zionism is a perfectly valid profession far from somthing one has to be brave to do.\r\n\r\n>There are obviously much bigger problems - like why do we continue to participate in massive atrocities, repression, terror - but we don't do anything about it? But there's no literary genre on that.\r\n\r\n- yes there is... it's you NOAM You and half the books in any book store. Just like michael moore complaining about how its impossible to become rich like him.\r\n\r\n>You find occasional instances of anti-Semitism, but they are marginal\r\n\r\nwell if &quot;anti sematism means being against semites then he is arguing against himself here.\r\nIf it means being against jews then he obviously hasnt been paying attention to levels of hate crimes by race.  Of course there arent all that many jews \r\n\r\n If Chomski is going to take a reference from Eban in the manner in which he has he should provide a quote like this one ..... Israeli statesman Abba Eban  noted that &quot;the Palestinians never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.&quot;\r\n\r\nNoam then has alot of quotes from people who he doesnt say who they are.\r\n\r\n> The information came back from the IDF (the Israeli army) that &quot;in the first few days of the Intifada [Sept 30th 2000 and the next few days] the IDF fired a million \r\nbullets.&quot; \r\n\r\nOK A) a respected corespondant but he doesnt name them?\r\nB) one million bullets? that is either incredible luck or just a totally flipppant comment\r\nC) one million bullets and they missed almost one million times? damn they must be being careful.\r\n\r\n> Britain very quickly understood that use of air power to attack civilians was far more cost effective and murderous than using ground forces.\r\n\r\nThe first part is probably true the second part is a bald faced lie. How many people would have died if The US had fought Iraq with no air support and it had taken 5 months (lets say since I have no idea how long it would have taken) to fight all the way across iraq.\r\n\r\n> The US is one of the most fundamentalist cultures in the world \r\n\r\nNoam has lost touch with what fundimentalism is","author":"Scottie","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 05:59:34","modified":"2003-10-13 05:59:34","fileurl":""},{"id":88537,"heading":"well.","article":"I believe I've dealt with all your issues.\r\nNow you're repeating yourself.  ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 10:08:38","modified":"2003-10-13 10:08:38","fileurl":""},{"id":88586,"heading":"hmmm","article":"Id like to have some one on about this one\r\n\r\n>&quot;Market distortions by the rich have been a major factor in doubling the already huge gap between the poorest and richest countries in the past generation.&quot;\r\n\r\nSounds bad eh? \r\nhowever A) US share (and the share of other high income countries around 1960's) of GDP is going down therefore average difference between poor countries and the Top countries is going down whether or not a few countries are missing out. \r\nB) technology and medicine brings these things together anyway.\r\nC) there are less market distortions now than there were then.\r\n\r\nAnd looks llike you have a judas in your ranks....\r\n\r\n>The 1992 UN Development Report estimates that various protectionist and financial measures taken by the rich countries have deprived the South of $1\/2 trillion a year\r\n\r\nprotestors.. he is arguing FOR globalization. and he calls you  &quot;virtually criminal&quot;.\r\nFortunatly the global capitalist eletes are on his side too..  well around 80 odd percent of them. They dont like your subsidies in the US either.","author":"Scottie","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 16:41:52","modified":"2003-10-13 16:41:52","fileurl":""},{"id":88601,"heading":"Incredible-- unbelievable","article":"so now you are babbling about degrees of deprivation 'coming together anyway'.   \r\nAnd you say he is for the economic globalization your side keeps beating as the end all to world problems.\r\nApparently you really haven't read much unedited Chomsky.\r\nYou arguments are tired as is your false analysis.\r\nTry reading his stuff without the peanut gallery..","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 21:09:35","modified":"2003-10-13 21:09:35","fileurl":""},{"id":88604,"heading":"like I said, thanks for the blog links.","article":"this was another one.\r\nhttp:\/\/www.variant.ndtilda.co.uk\/16texts\/Chomsky.html\r\nappriciate it.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-13 21:20:06","modified":"2003-10-13 21:20:06","fileurl":""},{"id":88680,"heading":"So Chomsky is a jerk?","article":"Is that what you're saying?","author":"Mindestens","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-14 03:39:35","modified":"2003-10-14 03:39:35","fileurl":""},{"id":88878,"heading":"mmm","article":"Your welcome sheepy. I think chomsky is wrong but he is welcome to speak as much as he wants. Anyway the chomskies of this world serve a purpose. ","author":"scottie","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-10-15 18:32:18","modified":"2003-10-15 18:32:18","fileurl":""},{"id":93592,"heading":"Sick little Fucks!!!!","article":"Do You have any idea, what war is? Of course not you pretty little mama's boys. You are Americans ( I presume ) and it shows simply in your criticism for Chumsky. Do you realize that the facts he talks about are real? Not to you off course, you have never seen blood form your friends (children btw) before your doors from wound coused by a grenade. A grenade which is only one of many thousands fired on civilians in recent war in Yugoslavia. This war, among many in the Past and in the future that will happend, was caused by the very facts Chumsky has intelignetly recognuzed. To prove he was right. Just ask yourself  which movie recently released in hollywood could satisfy a person with an I.Q. above 10 ? I think this is called something like making the mass dumb. It has become obvious to me just looking at what is happening to education in my country, we are constantly becoming short of new knowledge and inteligent things to learn. They started making the kids dumber and dumber in school, teaching them it's o.k. and positive to sp\u0161edn the whole day away from your parents ins chool learning something someone sad you should learn, waste all of your time trying to prove to that individual that you did learn it.\r\n\r\nYou americans mostly make me sick. Lucky there are Chumsky's in the world. Thank U, 'cause your stupid comments make more and more of them each day!\r\n\r\nSomeone, Croatia.","author":"NoOneToYOu","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-11 00:01:37","modified":"2013-11-11 00:27:29","fileurl":""},{"id":95356,"heading":"May God forgive you","article":"I will only say this, everyone who had benefit from Hitler admired him. Everyone who has benefit from Bush, likes him. But I cannot admire a ruthless executioner, and a war criminal, who doesn't let people get food and medication, because, they could survive uin too high a precentage, and eventually perhaps get the courage to take back their lives and country into their own hands. BTW if you were serious about dealing with the terorists, are you aware that G.Bush senior has been and still is a financial advisor for the Bin Laden family? And that it is purely logical that you, and only you americans don't see, that Bush himself gave the order that the 11.9. happens. Believe it or not, but be aware that the whole world is sick of americans, of america, and that all your hands are bloody, because, while you're all getting fat, destroying the last bit of decency and culture there is left over there, for every thrown cent on your cakes and tv - shows, somebody died. That's about a realistic view of relations. Did you ever ask yourself how many poeple had to die, for you to have the clothes you have, the magazines you jerk off with, the car you are driving? \r\nAnd one life would be too many. The world laughs at your despickable anti intelligence, because your nation is becoming more  stupid every day, and fears not to show it. Honestly I pitty you, for you have not the courigge and decency to open your eyes, because the things that are hidden are too big and too many too bare. May God forgive U","author":"Croat","parent_id":61209,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-11-23 20:24:53","modified":"2003-11-23 20:24:53","fileurl":""}]}