{"article":{"id":61098,"heading":"9\/11: Why Weren't U.S. Fighters Scrambled?","author":"Cloak And Dagger","created":"2003-05-31 22:27:13","modified":"2003-06-08 07:42:15","last_modified":"Sun, 08 Jun 2003 14:42:15","article":"

9\/11: Why Weren't U.S. Fighters Scrambled?

Date: Friday, May 30 @ 11:34:26 MDT

Topic: International Politics

by Rdavis84

May 31, 2003

The methodology for intercepting a runaway Lear 35 [golfer Payne Stewart's charter, whose craft crashed on impact] ----the story clearly establishes that F16's were scrambled to intercept this bizjet within 25 minutes of its failure to report to controllers upon its reaching its cleared alttitude of 39,000 ft. These F16's were scrambled ONLY upon the loss of a radio communication: the transponder never ceased to function.

the F16 out of Eglin, 500 miles behind the Lear, traveling at its posted max speed, mach 2 , caught the Lear 35 in 30 minutes.

Let's look at some possible intercept times...

An F-15 strike eagle flies at 1850 nmps. That is Mach 2.5 . This aircraft, according to the USAF's own website, goes from \"scramble order\" to 29000 feet in 2.5 minutes. New York City is 71 miles from McGuire AFB in NJ . At Mach 2, this plane could travel from the ground in NJ to NYC, in under 7 minutes.

1. Andrews AFB [11 miles SE of DC]. 2-3 minutes

2. Bolling AFB [3 miles south of US CAPITOL]. 2-3 minutes

3. Dover AFB [3 miles southeast of Dover, Delaware]----- Depends on Target of Intercept (5-10 minutes)

4. Hanscom AFB [17 miles northwest of Boston] ------ (as above)

5. Langley AFB [3 miles north of Hampton, VA] ------- (as above)

6. McGuire AFB [18 miles southeast of Trenton, NJ] ----(as above)

Source: cnn.com

8:45 a.m.: A large plane, possibly a hijacked airliner, crashes into one of the World Trade Center towers, tearing a gaping hole in the building and setting it afire.

9:03 a.m.: A second plane, apparently a passenger jet, crashes into the second World Trade Center tower and explodes. Both buildings are burning.

9:17 a.m.: The FAA shuts down all New York City area airports.

9:21 a.m.: New York City Port Authority orders all bridges and tunnels in the New York City area closed

9:30 a.m.: Bush, speaking in Florida, says the country has suffered an \"apparent terrorist attack.\"

9:40 a.m.: The FAA halts all flight operations at U.S. airports, the first time in U.S. history that air traffic nationwide has been halted.

9:43 a.m.: An aircraft crashes into the Pentagon, sending up a huge plume of smoke. Evacuation begins immediately. (Note -- Approx. 1 Hr. after first plane hit the WTC, 26 minutes after the FAA shut down airports in the NYC area, 13 minutes after Bush states a terrorist attack occured)

10:10 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, southeast of Pittsburgh.

10:24 a.m.: The FAA reports that all inbound transatlantic aircraft flying into the United States are being diverted to Canada.

10.48 a.m.: Police confirm the crash of a large plane in Somerset County, Pennsylvania.

10:54 a.m.: Israel evacuates all diplomatic missions.

11:18 a.m.: American Airlines reports it has lost two aircraft. American Flight 11, a Boeing 767 flying from Boston to Los Angeles, had 81 passengers and 11 crew aboard. Flight 77, a Boeing 757 en route from Washington's Dulles Airport to Los Angeles, had 58 passengers and six crew members aboard. Flight 11 slammed into the north tower of the World Trade Center.

11:26 a.m.: United Airlines reports that United Flight 93, en route from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, has crashed in Pennsylvania, southeast of Pittsburgh. The airline also says that it is \"deeply concerned\" about United Flight 175.

11:59 a.m.: United Airlines confirms that Flight 175, from Boston to Los Angeles, has crashed with 56 passengers and nine crew members aboard. Emergency personnel at the scene say there are no survivors.

12:30 p.m.: The FAA says 50 flights are in U.S. airspace, but none are reporting any problems.

2 p.m.: Senior FBI sources tell CNN they are working on the assumption that the four airplanes that crashed were hijacked as part of a terrorist attack. (There were supposed Phone Calls from Passengers Reporting Hijackings)

6 p.m.: Explosions are heard in Kabul, Afghanistan, hours after terrorist attacks targeted financial and military centers in the United States. The attacks occurred at 2:30 a.m. local time. Afghanistan is believed to be the home of Saudi militant Osama bin Laden, who U.S. officials say is possibly behind Tuesday's deadly attacks. U.S. officials say later that the United States had no involvement in the incident whatsoever.

\"Ask yourself this: Why were no fighter jets scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base near Washington D.C. to stop a jumbo jet that was tracked on radar that had gone all the way to the Ohio border and turned around and headed back to Washington DC.....which hit the Pentagon 58 MINUTES after the first WTC tower was hit? Why were those jets not scrambled, when all our leaders were in danger? Clearly after the 2nd plane hit the Towers any thinking person knew an attack was underway, so why wouldn't the DC airspace be secured FIRST?\"

The Lack of Action doesn't make sense.

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A WAY TO STOP THE FALSE "WAR ON TERROR" (NON-VIOLENT).<\/b><\/font>

<\/center>\r\nOne very good way to stop the war against the Moslems is to put the spotlight of the main justification for the use of American force, that is, the events of September 11. Showing the utter stupidity of the media's "official line" on 9-11, will have a huge effect on the way things pan out.<\/font>\r\n

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HAVE YOUR SAY CONCERNING 9-11.<\/b><\/font>

<\/center>\r\nThe following is a list of Talk Boards and some threads where you can discuss 9-11.\r\n

\r\nWWW.LIBERTYFORUM.ORG<\/font>\r\n

\r\nI have never heard of anyone being banned from this Talk Board.\r\n

\r\nU.S. MEDIA RELEASES FAKED PHOTOGRAPHS OF 9-11 PENTAGON EXPLOSION.<\/a>
\r\nTHE WTC WAS DESIGNED TO SURVIVE THE IMPACT OF A BOEING 767, SO WHY DIDN'T IT?<\/a>
\r\nTHE OFFICIAL LIE (THE "TRUSS THEORY") IS LUDICROUS.<\/a>
\r\nSIXTY STATE STREET (BOSTON) AND THE WTC TOWERS: A COMPARISON.<\/a>
\r\nABSOLUTE PROOF THAT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS DELIBERATELY DEMOLISHED.<\/a>
\r\nEVIDENCE OF EXPLOSIVES IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSES.<\/a>
\r\nBENJAMIN FREEDMAN PREDICTED 9-11 IN 1961, PRESCIENT EH?<\/a>
\r\nMANY 9-11 "HIJACKERS" ARE STILL ALIVE AND WELL.<\/a>
\r\nTHE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS COLLAPSE AS AN ENORMOUS INSURANCE SCAM.<\/a>
\r\nSECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION SECRET PROBE OF STOCK DEALINGS BEFORE 9\/11<\/a>
\r\nCHAPTERS ONE AND TWO FROM HUFSCHMID'S BOOK ON 9-11: PAINFUL QUESTIONS <\/a>
\r\nTHE JET FUEL; HOW HOT DID IT HEAT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER?<\/a>
\r\nINVESTIGATION SHOWS CELL-PHONES CALLS FROM 9-11 "HIJACKED" PLANES, NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE.<\/a>
\r\nTHE FEMA REPORT ON WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 COLLAPSE IS A TOTAL JOKE.<\/a> The whole FEMA report.
\r\nTHEY LIED TO YOU ABOUT WORLD TRADE CENTER SEVEN.<\/a> The short version.
\r\nDOWNLOAD 16 MEGABYTES OF PICTURES AND INFORMATION ON 9-11.<\/a>\r\n

\r\n911PI.COM<\/font>\r\n

\r\n911pi.com is a hoax. It is more about hiding the truth about 9-11, than finding it.
\r\nYou will have to read this farcical site to decide for yourself.
\r\nThe people running the site feel that they can change or delete posts at will.
\r\nThis site is a very sad JOKE and an insult to those killed on September 11, 2001.
\r\n
\r\nTHE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS COLLAPSE AS AN ENORMOUS INSURANCE SCAM.<\/a>
\r\nEVIDENCE OF EXPLOSIVES IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSES.<\/a>
\r\nTHE JET FUEL; HOW HOT DID IT HEAT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER?<\/a>
\r\nTHE OFFICIAL EXPLANATION FOR THE WTC COLLAPSE IS A LIE <\/a>
\r\nPROOF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS DELIBERATELY DEMOLISHED.<\/a>
\r\nTHE FEMA REPORT ON THE WTC 7 COLLAPSE IS A TOTAL JOKE.<\/a>
\r\nCHAPTERS ONE AND TWO FROM HUFSCHMID'S BOOK ON 9-11: PAINFUL QUESTIONS<\/a>
\r\n32,000 TONS OF STEEL OF STEEL MISSING FROM EACH OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS?<\/a>
\r\nCHAPTER 1. INTRODUCTION TO THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY (FEMA) REPORT ON WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSE.<\/a>
\r\nTHE FULL FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY (FEMA) REPORT ON THE COLLAPSE OF WORLD TRADE CENTER SEVEN.<\/a>
\r\nMEDIA RELEASES FAKED PHOTOGRAPHS OF EXPLOSION AT PENTAGON.<\/a>
\r\nGRAPHICAL EXPLANATION OF THE PROBLEM AT THE PENTAGON.<\/a>
\r\n
\r\nWWW.DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND.COM<\/font>\r\n

\r\nExpect to be banned from this Talk Board.\r\n

\r\nFEMA REPORT ON THE WTC7<\/a>
\r\nMANY OF THE 9-11 "HIJACKERS" ARE STILL ALIVE.<\/a>
\r\nPROOF THE WTC WAS DEMOLISHED. <\/a>
\r\nTHE TRUSS THEORY OF COLLAPSE.<\/a>
\r\nEVIDENCE OF EXPLOSIVES IN THE WTC COLLAPSE.<\/a>
\r\n

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LIST OF ARTICLES ON 9-11.<\/b><\/font><\/center>
\r\nDownload the entire www.nerdcities.com\/guardian<\/a> site as one 16 MB file.<\/font>\r\n

\r\nClick Here<\/a> to download the file. Click Here<\/a> if the first link is down.\r\n

\r\nThen open it with WinZip (Microsoft) tar -zxf (Unix) or Stuffit (Apple).<\/font> Click Here For Help.<\/a>\r\n

\r\n<\/a>\r\nSeptember the Eleventh 2001.<\/font>\r\n

\r\nThe World Trade Center.<\/font>\r\n

\r\n
\r\nThe World Trade Center Demolition<\/a> or Here<\/a> 740 KB
\r\nEvidence of Explosives in the World Trade Center Towers collapse<\/a> or Here<\/a> (update).
\r\nEvidence of Explosives In The South Tower Collapse<\/a> or Here<\/a> or en Espa\u00f1ol<\/a> 300 KB
\r\nChapter 1 of the FEMA WTC Report: Introduction (with comment)<\/a> or Here<\/a> 850 KB
\r\nChapter 2 of the FEMA WTC Report: The Twin Towers (with comment)<\/a> or Here<\/a> 1.8 MB
\r\nChapter 5 of the FEMA WTC Report: World Trade Center Seven (with comment)<\/a> or Here<\/a> 1.3 MB
\r\nMicrosoft Software used to simulate the crash of a Boeing 747 into the World Trade Center.<\/a>
\r\nUniversity of California, Berkeley Professor, Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl Testifies.<\/a>
\r\nTable Of Contents for the FEMA World Trade Center Report.<\/a>
\r\nChapter 3 of the WTC Report: WTC 3.<\/a>
\r\nChapter 6 of the WTC Report: Bankers Trust Building.<\/a>
\r\nAppendix B of the WTC-Report: Structural Steel and Steel Connections.<\/a>
\r\nAppendix D of the WTC-Report: WTC Steel Data Collection.<\/a>
\r\nThe World Trade Center 7 Explosion Myth.<\/a>
\r\nPhotographic Evidence that they Lied About the Trusses<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nThe Jet Fuel; How hot did it heat the World Trade Center?<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nProof the Twin Towers were Deliberately Demolished<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nSixty State Street and the World Trade Center towers: A Comparison<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n
\r\nThe Pentagon.<\/font>\r\n

\r\n
\r\nA Detailed Analysis of whether or not a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon<\/a> or Here<\/a> 1.4 MB
\r\nPhotos of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon are a Complete and Utter Fabrication<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nThe Bijlmer Crash - Joe Vialls - Caught in a Lie.<\/a>
\r\nCarol A. Valentine Article Completely Wrong.<\/a>
\r\nThe Strange Case of the Sports Utility Vehicle at the Pentagon.<\/a>
\r\nHow the size of the plane in the "explosion" photo was calculated.<\/a>
\r\nThe Essence of the Problem<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n
\r\nOther.<\/font>\r\n

\r\n
\r\nStranger Than Fiction<\/a> (from www.whatreallyhappened.com) 600 KB
\r\nEvidence that the Arabs are Not to blame for the WTC attack.<\/a>
\r\nSeismic Waves Generated by Aircraft Impacts and Building Collapses at the WTC<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nSeismic Observations during the September 11, 2001, Terrorist Attack<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nMany 9-11 "Hijackers" are Still Alive and Well<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nIsraelis arrested on suspicion of 9-11 involvement.<\/a>
\r\nSept 11th - Unanswered Questions By MalcontentX.<\/a>
\r\nCollection of Eric Hufschmid's early articles.<\/a>\r\n
\r\nClouds of Concrete<\/a>
\r\nWTC Fireballs<\/a>
\r\nCrummy Buildings<\/a>
\r\nAmerican Pride<\/a>
\r\nPentagon Plane Crash<\/a>
\r\nWho blew up WTC?<\/a>
\r\nRevenge<\/a>
\r\nManipulation<\/a>
\r\nCensorship<\/a>
\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\nChapters One and Two from Eric Hufschmid's book Painful Questions (with comment)<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nInvestigation shows Cellphone Calls from 9-11 "Hijacked" Planes are next to Impossible<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nThe World Trade Center Towers collapse as an Enormous Insurance Scam<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nBenjamin Freedman predicted the present push for WWW III in 1961, prescient eh?<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n
\r\nThe Response, Or Rather, Lack Of It.<\/font>\r\n

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\r\nAir National Guard Mission And Vision Statement<\/a> or Here<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nAn example of Air National Guard efficency.<\/a>
\r\nWhere was NORAD on September Eleven?<\/a>
\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n
<\/a>\r\nPalestine.<\/font>\r\n

\r\n
\r\nSome Facts About Palestine<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nListing and Map of Land Ownership in Palestine in 1947<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nListing and Map of Towns and Villages Ethnically Cleansed\/Destroyed by the Jews.<\/a>
\r\nMore on the Towns and Villages Ethnically Cleansed\/Destroyed by the Jews<\/a> or Here<\/a> 570 KB
\r\nTime line of the Israeli aggression against the Palestinians in the 1948 war<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nBrief articles on the 1948, 1956 and 1967 wars started by Israel<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nArticle on the many Jewish\/Israeli massacres of Palestinians and Jewish Terrorism<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nBrief article on the Israeli attempt to ignite a civil war in Lebanon<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nArafat calls for democratic elections in the United States.<\/a>
\r\nThe Amazing Cost of Israel to the United States<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nAmerica should fight minorities and aliens the way Israel does!<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nThe Day Israel Deliberately Killed 34 American Sailors<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nBrief article on Israeli apartheid.<\/a>
\r\nIsrael wins Huge Victory.<\/a>
\r\nIs Israel a Democracy?<\/a>
\r\nSome Israeli War Criminals<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nSome articles on the War Criminal Sharon (Prime Minister of Israel)<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nThe War Criminal Sharon. The Long Version.<\/a>
\r\nThe Chinese claim California as a Confucian Homeland.<\/a>
\r\nGod gave the Jews New York.<\/a>
\r\nThe Genocidal God of the Jews<\/a> or Here<\/a>
\r\nSome Zionist Fairy Tales.<\/a>
\r\nIsrael mugs the Palestinians.<\/a>
\r\nMuslims base their claim to Palestine on History.<\/a>
\r\nJewish Terrorism.<\/a>
\r\nJewish Terrorism targeting the British.<\/a>
\r\nOnline Books about Palestine and the Jews.<\/a>
\r\nWhat you can do if you care.<\/a>
\r\n<\/blockquote>\r\n
<\/a>\r\nOther.<\/font>\r\n

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\r\nWhy did the US develop the Space Shuttle when the Saturn 5 is so much better?<\/a>
\r\nWhy is the US developing the Delta rockets when the Saturn 5 is so much better?<\/a>
\r\nWhy is no one allowed to question the Holocaust?<\/a>\r\n
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I think we can safely state at this point that there are a lot of holes in the \u201cOfficial Conspiracy Theory\u201d of 19 Arabs who hated our freedoms, wanted to die for Allah, were invisible super terrorists, and Master Pilots.\u201d\r\n\r\nJust a few of the things the the \u201cOfficial Conspiracy Theory\u201d fails to account for are: \r\n\r\n19 Arabs who do not show up on any of the Passenger Lists, 8 of which are known to be alive, were all identified in 24 hours despite it being a \u201ccowardly sneak attack much like Pearl Harbor, and were not photographed by surveillance cameras. (The photos of Mohammed Atta were taken the night before and are therefore of no value to sorting out 911.)\r\n\r\nThe conflicting stories Bush has given on his awareness of what occurred the morning of 911 - he claimed to have seen the first impact at a time when the video of the first \u201chit\u201d had yet to be aired.\r\n\r\nThe four aircraft pilots of whom not 1 was able to punch in the 4 digit code signaling a hijacking - something that takes about 2 seconds and which they are trained to do. (The dog that did not bark in the night.)\r\n\r\nThat the tapes of any Radio Transmissions to Air Traffic Control have been suppressed and the Air Traffic Controllers FORBIDDEN to talk about what occurred.\r\n\r\nThe Mystery of why so many of the Black Boxes were \u201cunreadable\u201d.\r\n\r\nNORAD's apparent complete incompetence to handle this emergency who were yet able to Scramble Interceptors to overtake a runaway Lear Jet.\r\n\r\nThe Bush Junta\u2019s adamance at halting, preventing, delaying, hiding, derailing, blocking any full investigation into 911 or release of any of the tepid reports done thus far. (Where there\u2019s smoke there\u2019s fire.)\r\n\r\nSpeaking of fire the \u201cOfficial Conspiracy Theory\u201d does not account for the way the WTC towers collapsed. It does not take into account the limitations of the fuel supply for the fire nor address the uniform, linear, symmetrical manner in which the towers collapsed - and so quickly and close together in time. It does not adequately explain what could be interpreted as demolition charges going off just below the damaged part of the structures just prior to collapse, nor the anomalous Seismic Data which seem to indicated \u201cexplosive-like events\u201d in the moments before the collapse. It does not explain how, if the 85th floor was a 2000 degree inferno why their are photos of a survivor looking out the hole, nor the Firefighters who reached the 85th floor and then calmly began talking about evacuating the survivors. 2000 Degree inferno? Doesn\u2019t sound like one to me.\r\n\r\nIt does not explain why no Forensic investigation was ever done nor why the structure was put under armed guard, and rapidly cut up for scrap and shipped to China. ??? Why the extreme measures to destroy the evidence? Got something to hide?\r\n\r\nSome more good reference Web Sites:\r\n\r\nThe Complete 911 Time Line: \r\n\r\nPart 1: http:\/\/unansweredquestions.org\/timeline\/timelinecomplete1.html\r\n\r\nPart 2: http:\/\/unansweredquestions.org\/timeline\/timelinepart2.html\r\n\r\nThe Abridged Version (A good starting point): http:\/\/unansweredquestions.org\/timeline\/AAtimelineshort.html\r\n\r\n911 Timeline.net: http:\/\/www.911timeline.net\/\r\n\r\nWhat Really Happened Archives - several good articles Left side of Page under Recent Articles: http:\/\/www.whatreallyhappened.com\/\r\n\r\nAnd the now classic Article\/Post that got Michael Rivero Banned at un-free Rezpublik: Fake Terror and The Road to Dictatorship:\r\nhttp:\/\/www.whatreallyhappened.com\/ARTICLE5\/index.html","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-02 12:30:45","modified":"2013-11-11 00:22:50","fileurl":""},{"id":62675,"heading":"Help me","article":"I'm mentally unstable.","author":"Eric","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-06 16:31:47","modified":"2003-06-06 16:31:47","fileurl":""},{"id":62935,"heading":"?","article":"Don't you care?","author":"Eric","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-06 17:21:32","modified":"2003-06-06 17:21:32","fileurl":""},{"id":63480,"heading":"Ever notice...","article":"...how the apologists for the Bush Junta can NEVER grant any credibility to the mountains of damning evidence. If they did so even once then they might be forced to think the, for them, unthinkable that their God was evil.","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-06 22:20:37","modified":"2003-06-06 22:20:37","fileurl":""},{"id":63516,"heading":"well..","article":"Not that I'm an apologist, but I think I'd need to see at least SOME of this damning evidence first. And believe me, it has not appeared anywhere around here yet.\r\n\r\nThe real question is how you paranoid shills can deny ALL evidence disproving ALL of your silly fantasies.","author":"fresca","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 03:18:02","modified":"2003-06-07 03:18:02","fileurl":""},{"id":63522,"heading":"Back to...","article":"...ankle biting I see.","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 04:00:13","modified":"2003-06-07 04:00:13","fileurl":""},{"id":63529,"heading":"Back to..","article":"Denying the obvious and getting frustrated I see.","author":"fresca","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 04:29:05","modified":"2003-06-07 04:29:05","fileurl":""},{"id":63536,"heading":""...how you paranoid shills...","article":"...can deny ALL evidence disproving ALL of your silly fantasies."\r\n\r\nIt's easy if you look at the world through conspiracy-colored glasses.","author":"daveman","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 08:16:08","modified":"2003-06-07 08:16:08","fileurl":""},{"id":63544,"heading":"daveman prefers blinders","article":"so much easier to proceed through the world.\r\nWe all just KNOW that conspiricies never occur and\r\nthe government would never lie to us or use it's\r\nown citizens as a target for public opinion.\r\nDON'T LOOK AT THE ' NORTHWOODS ' DOCUMENT.\r\nDON'T LOOK AT PEARL HARBOR\r\nDON'T LOOK AT GULF OF TONKIN.\r\netc., etc., etc.\r\nOh yes, never question the official story. Baaaaaaa. ","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 08:54:09","modified":"2003-06-07 08:54:09","fileurl":""},{"id":63555,"heading":"And we all just know","article":"How the government lies to us all the time.\r\nConstantly. Of course!\r\nThey used remote controlled planes to knock down the WTC.\r\nThey invaded Afghanistan to build an oil pipeline that, more than a year later,\r\nConstruction still has not begun upon.\r\nThey ousted Saddam so we could pump out all the oil in Iraq, \r\neven though the eyes of the world are upon us to do the right thing.\r\n\r\nDON'T LOOK AT FOR THE POTENTIAL OIL RESERVES IN ALASKA.\r\nDON'T LOOK AT THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEING DONE \r\nTO BUILD HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS.\r\nDON'T WAKE UP FROM THE MATRIX, \r\nTHAT BUSH JUNTA HAS US CONNECTED TO BY STEM CELLS \r\nAT THE BASES OF OUR SPINES\r\n SO THE ELITES CAN LITERALLY SUCK THE SOULS \r\nOUT OF OUR BODIES \r\nTO FEED THEIR OWN IMORTALITY.\r\nTHEY ARE IMMORTAL YOU KNOW.\r\nLIKE THE HIGHLANDER.\r\nTHE ONLY WAY TO KILL THEM\r\nIS TO CHOP OFF THEIR HEADS.\r\n\r\nWHERE\u2019S MY VALIUM?\r\n\r\n","author":"Eric","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 09:42:08","modified":"2013-11-11 00:23:01","fileurl":""},{"id":63556,"heading":"my goodness","article":"I think it would be better if you used penta barbatol.\r\nOpps, that was unkind.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 09:47:08","modified":"2003-06-07 09:47:08","fileurl":""},{"id":63560,"heading":"Is that what you use?","article":"I suppose they go well with crown and coke.","author":"Eric","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 10:16:25","modified":"2003-06-07 10:16:25","fileurl":""},{"id":63562,"heading":"never toutch the stuff.","article":"It's usually nicotine and caffeine.\r\nWish I had some pot.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 10:21:09","modified":"2003-06-07 10:21:09","fileurl":""},{"id":63563,"heading":"but enough about ME","article":"NORAD sure earns its pay huh?\r\nAll that fire power told to stand down.\r\nSure glad the Cubans didn't attack us with Grenada and Nicaragua.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-07 10:32:43","modified":"2003-06-07 10:32:43","fileurl":""},{"id":63727,"heading":"another dime","article":"Prior to 9\/11, FAA and Department of Defense Manuals gave clear, comprehensive instructions on\r\n how to handle everything from minor emergencies to full blown hijackings. \r\n\r\n These "protocols" were in place and were practiced regularly for a good reason--with heavily\r\n trafficked air space; airliners without radio and transponder contact are collisions and\/or calamities\r\n waiting to happen. \r\n\r\n Those protocols dictate that in the event of an emergency, the FAA is to notify NORAD. Once that\r\n notification takes place, it is then the responsibility of NORAD to scramble fighter-jets to intercept\r\n the errant plane(s). It is a matter of routine procedure for fighter-jets to "intercept" commercial\r\n airliners in order to regain contact with the pilot. \r\n\r\n If that weren't protection enough, on September 11th, NEADS (or the North East Air Defense\r\n System dept of NORAD) was several days into a semiannual exercise known as "Vigilant Guardian".\r\n This meant that our North East Air Defense system was fully staffed. In short, key officers were\r\n manning the operation battle center, "fighter jets were cocked, loaded, and carrying extra gas on\r\n board."\r\nhttp:\/\/www.scoop.co.nz\/mason\/stories\/WO0304\/S00045.htm","author":"\u00a5*><\u00e5","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-08 01:37:27","modified":"2026-10-25 17:02:53","fileurl":""},{"id":63732,"heading":"Good Post","article":"Thanks for the link to the Scoop data. Was not familiar with it enough to have had the "duh" light come on.\r\n\r\nSo, they were in a heightened alert status?\r\n\r\nInteresting.","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-08 02:57:43","modified":"2003-06-08 02:57:43","fileurl":""},{"id":63733,"heading":"Exactly","article":"Good post.\r\n\r\nThe testimony very eloquently shows how tyoical human uncompetence and multi-tiered bureaucracy led to the opportunity for 19 terrorists to attack us.\r\n","author":"fresca","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-08 03:05:04","modified":"2003-06-08 03:05:04","fileurl":""},{"id":63740,"heading":"well","article":"I hear a canadian was in charge of norad at the time..hmm pesky canadians.","author":"Scottie","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-08 03:20:54","modified":"2003-06-08 03:20:54","fileurl":""},{"id":63741,"heading":"frescaw spins at high RPM.","article":""Incompetence?" Bureaucratic inefficiency? \r\n\r\nUnsubstantiated allegations.\r\n\r\nSpin.","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-08 03:22:59","modified":"2003-06-08 03:22:59","fileurl":""},{"id":63746,"heading":"???","article":"""Incompetence?" Bureaucratic inefficiency? \r\n\r\nUnsubstantiated allegations. \r\n\r\nSpin.\r\n"\r\n\r\nWhat are you talking about?\r\n\r\nDid you not read the testiminy linked?\r\n\r\nThe conclusion of that story, which i dared to paraphrase, is precisely that which waranted a "great post" from you a few lines up.\r\n\r\nAre you literally changing your tune because I agree with you?\r\n\r\nChrist Dio, grow up.","author":"fresca","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-08 04:06:14","modified":"2003-06-08 04:06:14","fileurl":""},{"id":63753,"heading":"19 goasts or goats or goasts of goats","article":"NORAD was in a 'stand down' mode.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":61098,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-08 07:42:15","modified":"2003-06-08 07:42:15","fileurl":""}]}