{"article":{"id":56154,"heading":"SOME FACTS ABOUT PALESTINE (ISRAEL).","author":"MAD ZIONTIST","created":"2003-05-07 04:07:40","modified":"2003-05-21 01:05:50","last_modified":"Wed, 21 May 2003 08:05:50","article":"<p>p { text-align:justify }\r\np.c { text-align:center }\r\ntd { text-align:right }\r\n\r\n\r\n<\/p><table width=\"90%\"><tr><td style=\"text-align:left\">\r\n<br>\r\n<b>SOME FACTS ABOUT PALESTINE.<\/b>\r\n<br><p>\r\nSOME POPULATION FIGURES FOR  MANDATE PALESTINE.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<table><tr>\r\n<td>In 1880 there were <\/td><td align=\"center\">24,000 <\/td><td>Jews living among \r\n<\/td><td align=\"center\">450,000 <\/td><td> Palestinians.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr><tr>\r\n<td>In 1914 there were <\/td><td align=\"center\">56,000 <\/td><td>Jews living among \r\n<\/td><td align=\"center\">715,000 <\/td><td> Palestinians.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr><tr>\r\n<td>In 1922 there were <\/td><td align=\"center\">83,000 <\/td><td>Jews living among \r\n<\/td><td align=\"center\">663,000 <\/td><td> Palestinians.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr><tr>\r\n<td>In 1936 there were <\/td><td align=\"center\">385,400 <\/td><td>Jews living among \r\n<\/td><td align=\"center\">983,200 <\/td><td> Palestinians.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr><tr>\r\n<td>In 1940 there were <\/td><td align=\"center\">467,000 <\/td><td>Jews living among \r\n<\/td><td align=\"center\">1,050,000 <\/td><td> Palestinians.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr><tr>\r\n<td>In 1946 there were <\/td><td align=\"center\">600,000 <\/td><td>Jews living among \r\n<\/td><td align=\"center\">1,300,000 <\/td><td> Palestinians.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr><\/table>\r\n<p>\r\nTHINGS TO NOTE:\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nIn 1880 Jews were ONLY 5.3% of the total population of Palestine (and had been this percentage of the population (or less) for more than a thousand years). In 1946 the Jewish population was almost entirely comprised of recent immigrants (people who had been in the country less than twenty years).\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nThis group of recent immigrants were publicly claiming that the (entire) land belonged to them (apparently they believed that some god had given it to them). These wild claims made non-Jews who lived in Palestine (we will call them Palestinians) very nervous, especially since the Jews claimed to want an ethnically pure state.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nThese non-Jews were (very) afraid that they would be kicked out of any new entity that claimed to be a Jewish state.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nSOME POPULATION FIGURES FOR ISRAEL AFTER THE GREAT JEWISH LAND GRAB OF 1948.\r\n<\/p>\r\n<table><tr>\r\n<td>In 1948 there were <\/td><td align=\"center\">155,000 <\/td><td>Palestinians living among \r\n<\/td><td align=\"center\">716,700 <\/td><td> Jews.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr><tr>\r\n<td>In 1951 there were <\/td><td align=\"center\">173,000 <\/td><td>Palestinians living among \r\n<\/td><td align=\"center\">1,577,000 <\/td><td> Jews.<\/td>\r\n<\/tr><\/table>\r\n<p>\r\nTHINGS TO NOTE:\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nThe fears of the non-Jews who lived in Palestine were well founded.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nThat in 1948 all but 155,000 of the 873,600 Palestinians living in the area that became Israel, were ethnically cleansed from the newly formed Jewish state.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nThis ethnic cleansing was extremely brutal (and has been well documented). \r\n<\/p><p>\r\nQuoting Naeim Giladi.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nAnd I began to find out about the barbaric methods used to rid the fledgling state of as many Palestinians as possible.  The world recoils today at the thought of bacteriological warfare, but Israel was probably the first to actually use it in the Middle East.  In the 1948 war, Jewish forces would empty Arab villages of their populations, often by threats, sometimes by just gunning down a half-dozen unarmed Arabs as examples to the rest. To make sure the Arabs couldn't return to make a fresh life for themselves in these villages, the Israelis put typhus and dysentery bacteria into the water wells.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nBEFORE 1948 THERE WERE 475 PALESTINIAN TOWNS AND VILLAGES IN PALESTINE.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nSINCE THEN 385 OF THESE HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY ERASED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH<br> (USUALLY BULLDOZED), BY THE JEWS\/ISRAELIS.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nThe houses, and property that was destroyed had been owned by those Palestinians killed, or forced to flee, by the barbaric tactics of the Jews. These destroyed towns and villages were rebuilt (with new Jewish names) as Jewish only towns and villages. The Palestinians who had been forced to leave were not allowed back. They were not even allowed back into the Jewish state, let alone back to their (now destroyed) towns and villages.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nMany Christians support Israel, but they should realize that before the establishment of the Jewish state, Palestine was about 12% Christian (Israel is now about 2% Christian). They should also remember that the Palestinian Christians had lived in the area since about 300 AD (when Palestine was predominantly Christian) and that they shared the land with Moslems from about 700 AD to the creation of Israel, when they were kicked out along with the Moslems (by the Jews).\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nPalestine's Population During The Ottoman And The British Mandate Periods.\r\n<br>\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cactus48.com\/truth.html\r\n<br>\r\nhttp:\/\/www.nimn.org\/history\/population.html\r\n<br>\r\nListing of Towns and Villages Ethnically Cleansed\/Destroyed by the Jews.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nAnd now lets examine the claim that the Jews bought all the land and thus \"now owned it\" and were thus \"entitled\" to ethnically cleanse Palestine.\r\n<\/p>\r\nIN 1880 THE JEWS OWNED APPROXIMATELY 0% OF THE LAND.<br>IN 1946 THE JEWS OWNED APPROXIMATELY 7% OF THE LAND.\r\n<p>And even this 7% (more precisely 6.66%) of the land is contested. Much of the land was bought from people who had registered the land in their name, but who did not in any sense own the land, but that is another story. The point is that owning 7% of the land (about 20% of the farmland) does not entitle a minority to claim the entire land (even if they claim that some god gave it to them).\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nListing and Map of Land Ownership In Palestine As In 1947.\r\n<\/p><p>\r\nIn all this the Jews just acted as a bunch of thieves and criminals.\r\n<\/p><p>For those interested, here are 1922-1938 population figures for Palestine (Arab-Jew breakdown).<\/p>\r\n<br>\r\n<table cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"5\" border=\"1\" style=\"background:#FCFFE2\"><tr style=\"background:#fffcd6\"><th>Year<\/th><th>Arabs<\/th><th>Jews<\/th><th>Total<\/th><\/tr><tr><td>1922<\/td><td>668,258<\/td><td>83,790<\/td><td>752,048<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1923<\/td><td>689,329<\/td><td>89,660<\/td><td>778,989<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1924<\/td><td>710,017<\/td><td>94,945<\/td><td>804,962<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1925<\/td><td>725,513<\/td><td>121,725<\/td><td>847,238<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1926<\/td><td>748,862<\/td><td>149,500<\/td><td>898,362<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1927<\/td><td>767,526<\/td><td>149,789<\/td><td>917,315<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1928<\/td><td>784,295<\/td><td>151,656<\/td><td>935,951<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1929<\/td><td>803,562<\/td><td>156,481<\/td><td>960,043<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1930<\/td><td>827,763<\/td><td>164,796<\/td><td>992,559<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1931<\/td><td>851,706<\/td><td>172,028<\/td><td>1,023,734<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1932<\/td><td>872,079<\/td><td>180,793<\/td><td>1,052,872<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1933<\/td><td>895,677<\/td><td>209,207<\/td><td>1,104,884<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1934<\/td><td>917,458<\/td><td>253,700<\/td><td>1,171,158<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1935<\/td><td>940,724<\/td><td>320,358<\/td><td>1,261,082<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1936<\/td><td>966,035<\/td><td>370,483<\/td><td>1,336,518<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1937<\/td><td>997,233<\/td><td>386,074<\/td><td>1,383,307<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>1938<\/td><td>1,018,811<\/td><td>399,808<\/td><td>1,418,619<\/td><\/tr><\/table><br>\r\nThese figures are from the UNISPAL website.\r\n<br><br>\r\nAnd here are some official estimates of the numbers of Palestinian ethnically cleansed by the Jews:\r\n<br><br><br>\r\n<table border=\"1\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"5\" style=\"background:#FCFFE2\">\r\n<tr style=\"background:#fffcd6\"><th style=\"padding:8\">&nbsp;Source&nbsp;of&nbsp;Estimate&nbsp;<\/th><th>&nbsp;Number&nbsp;of&nbsp;Refugees&nbsp;<\/th><th>&nbsp;Date&nbsp;of&nbsp;Estimate&nbsp;<\/th><th>&nbsp;&nbsp;Reference&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<tr><th>United States<\/th><th>875,000<\/th><th>1953<\/th><th>Ref. 1<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<tr><th>British Govt<\/th><th>810,000<\/th><th>Feb 1949<\/th><th>Ref. 2<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<tr><th>United Nations<\/th><th>726,000<\/th><th>Sept 1949<\/th><th>Ref. 3<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<tr><th>\"<\/th><th>957,000<\/th><th>May 1950<\/th><th>Ref. 3<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<tr><th>Israeli Govt<\/th><th>520,000<\/th><th>1948<\/th><th>Ref. 4<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<tr><th>Palestinian<\/th><th>780,000<\/th><th>end 1948<\/th><th>Ref. 5<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<tr><th>\"<\/th><th>744,150<\/th><th>mid 1948<\/th><th>Ref. 6<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<tr><th>\"<\/th><th>850,276<\/th><th>Nov 1952<\/th><th>Ref. 7<\/th><\/tr>\r\n<\/table>\r\n\r\n<br><br>\r\n1 \"The Problem of Arab Refugees from Palestine,\" U.S. Government Report of the Subcommittee on the Near East and Africa (Foreign Relations Committee, 24 July 1953). The West Bank refugees are added to those of Jordan. \r\n<p>\r\n2 PROFO371-754196 E2297\/1821\/31 \r\n<\/p><p>\r\n3 United Nations Conciliation Commission for Palestine: Report of the UN Economic Survey Mission for the Middle East, UN Document A\/AC.25\/6, p. 18; Annual Report of the Director General of UNRWA, Director's Report, UN Document 5224\/5223, 25 November 1952. \r\n<\/p><p>\r\n4 Morris, Benny, The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem, 1989, p. 297. \r\n<\/p><p>\r\n5 Khalidi, Walid et al., eds., All that Remains: The Palestinian Villages Occupied and Depopulated by Israel in 1948, 1992, Appendix III, p. 582. \r\n<\/p><p>\r\n6 Said, Edward et al., A Profile of the Palestinian People, Third Ed, 1990, p. 6; Abu-Lughod, Janet, \"The Demographic Transformation of Palestine,\" in Ibrahim Abu-Lughod, ed., The Transformation of Palestine, 1971, pp. 139-63. \r\n<\/p><p>\r\n7 Hagopian, Edward and A.B. Zahlen, \"Palestine's Arab Population,\" Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. III, Walid Khalidi et al., eds., 1974, pp. 32-73. \r\n<\/p><\/td><\/tr><\/table>\r\n\r\n\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"And I began to find out about the barbaric methods used to rid the fledgling state of as many Palestinians as possible.  The world recoils today at the thought of bacteriological warfare, but Israel was probably the first to actually use it in the Middle East.","numcomment":49,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/05\/56154.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":56155,"heading":"MAD ZIONTIST","article":"All comment welcome.","author":"All comment welcome.","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 04:09:21","modified":"2003-05-07 04:09:21","fileurl":""},{"id":56158,"heading":"sdfg","article":"Jews never sold israel to romans or arabs in the first place, so how did arabs become its legal owners?","author":"sdfg","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 04:27:42","modified":"2003-05-07 04:27:42","fileurl":""},{"id":56160,"heading":"sf","article":"&quot; 1880 there were  24,000  Jews living among  450,000  Palestinians. \r\nIn 1914 there were  56,000  Jews living among  715,000  Palestinians. \r\nIn 1922 there were  83,000  Jews living among  663,000  Palestinians. \r\nIn 1936 there were  385,400  Jews living among  983,200  Palestinians. \r\nIn 1940 there were  467,000  Jews living among  1,050,000  Palestinians. \r\nIn 1946 there were  600,000  Jews living among  1,300,000  Palestinians. &quot;\r\n\r\nhaha, that's hilarious!, just a reminder... up until the second half of 20th century, the Jews were called palestinians, and the 'palestinians' were called arabs... get your names straight..   btw, how many palestinians were there in palestine in 100 a.c.e.?  500 a.c.e.?  600?   1000?  and if your answer isn't 0, can you tell me the first palestinian leader's name back then?  can you also tell me with what countries palestine had dipolmatic relations with.  What was its currency called?  What form of government did it have?  What were its main imports and exports?","author":"sdf","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 04:34:59","modified":"2003-05-07 04:34:59","fileurl":""},{"id":56164,"heading":"MAD ZIONTIST","article":"<font color=&quot;red&quot;>How many Palestinians were there in Palestine in 100 a.c.e.? Since Palestine was a Roman province at that time and populations were small, probably a few hundred thousand.\r\n<br><br>\r\nThere were even a few Jews among these Palestinians, but according to Jewish history, the Romans had shown many the door, in 70 AD.<\/font>","author":"ow many Palestinians in 100 a.c.e.?","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2003-05-07 05:06:25","modified":"2003-05-07 05:06:25","fileurl":""},{"id":56171,"heading":"Palestinians in area for thousands of years","article":"     Modern DNA testing has shown that the population of Palestine has changed little genetically between ancient times and 1948.  In fact, entire Jewish villages converted to Christianity or Islam voluntarily or under pressure when those religions appeared upon the scene. The descendents of these Jews are presumably among today's Palestinians, some of them cleaning toilets and peeling vegetables for Euopean immigrants. This, of course, is in addition to the fact that Palestine never was entirely Jewish, Hebrew or Israelite; remember that it was filled with people called Canaanites before Moses ever got there.\r\n     Most of the 20th century Jewish immigrants and colonists are undoubtedly the descendants of \r\nSlavic and German people who converted to Judaism some time in the early Middle Ages; they may have taken on the religion of their employers or, if they were slaves, the religion of their owners. Some undoubtedly just saw Judaism as more attractive than Christianity.\r\nHence the large number of blue-eyed and light-haired people among the Jews who came to the region - clearly they are not of Middle Eastern ancestry.  Some may be the descendents of the Kharzars or other Turkic tribes who converted to Judaism while living in Russia or on its borders.\r\n     Even if European Jews were the biological descendents of the people who came to Palestine with Moses, to argue that this gives them the right to steal land from Arabs with illegal settlements is on a par with Hitler's claim that he had a right to seize Eastern Europe because German tribes lived there in ancient times. The fact that they are not of middle eastern origin (for the most part) makes an already ridiculous claim on the land that much more ridiculous.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 18:44:38","modified":"2003-05-07 18:44:38","fileurl":""},{"id":56174,"heading":"Canaan","article":"The land belongs to whomever can conquer and defend it.","author":"pvi","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 18:52:43","modified":"2003-05-07 18:52:43","fileurl":""},{"id":56185,"heading":"Land belongs to the conquerors","article":"Well, Adolf, that was certainly spoken like a true Nazi - Seig Heil to you.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 19:37:24","modified":"2003-05-07 19:37:24","fileurl":""},{"id":56188,"heading":"The New X","article":"Advocates of Israel never address the issue of stolen land. Their only argument is that the Arabs are shitty and Israelis are cool therefore the Israelis deserve the land because they'll do more with it.\r\n\r\nSo much for property rights.","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 19:50:57","modified":"2003-05-07 19:50:57","fileurl":""},{"id":56191,"heading":"I'll address it","article":"Egypt, Jordan and Syria tried to annihilate Israel in 1967.\r\nIsrael handed them there asses.\r\nIn the ensuing humiliation of the feeble arab world, Israel, by anyone's standards, rightfully laid claim to the Gaza Strip, West Bank and the Golen Heights.\r\nThe land is theirs. Plain and Simple.\r\nWhen the arabs in those areas inevitably gain control of that land and form, for the first time in history, a state called &quot;Palestine&quot;, it will be due to Israel making a generous gift of much of their land.\r\n","author":"fresca","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 19:55:25","modified":"2003-05-07 19:55:25","fileurl":""},{"id":56193,"heading":"BTW","article":"Why does no one want to adress the fact that &quot;Palestine&quot; could've bben a state in '48 but they greedily turned down, precisely what they want now, and lost the land to the invading arab hordes of Egpt, Transjordan and Syria?","author":"fresca","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 20:03:16","modified":"2003-05-07 20:03:16","fileurl":""},{"id":56194,"heading":"The New X","article":"Advocates of Israel never address the issue of stolen land.\r\n\r\nThere was no state in the area at the time. nevertheless it was still home to certain people. they were forcibly expelled and their land stolen. ","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 20:04:28","modified":"2003-05-07 20:04:28","fileurl":""},{"id":56196,"heading":"I'll accept that","article":"But you seem to be more than willing to overlook how most of them were thrown off their land by the Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian armies.\r\nWhy is that?","author":"fresca","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 20:11:09","modified":"2003-05-07 20:11:09","fileurl":""},{"id":56208,"heading":"thrown off land by Syrians, etc.","article":"This is nonsensical. The Palestinians were expelled by thugs led by Begin, Shamir and other pirates.","author":"Meyer London","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 20:50:06","modified":"2003-05-07 20:50:06","fileurl":""},{"id":56210,"heading":"Get your head outa your ass apologist","article":"Meyer. You fucking imbecile.\r\nStop parroting halfbaked buzzphrases you've picked up on your nazi websites and do your own research.\r\nThat is, if you can put down Mein Kampf long enough.\r\nYour &quot;knowledge&quot; of history is that of science fiction writers.\r\n","author":"fresca","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 20:53:09","modified":"2003-05-07 20:53:09","fileurl":""},{"id":56229,"heading":"fresca","article":"You sound like an unabashed zionist. You would definately like my site. Stop on by!\r\n\r\nwww.kobehq.com","author":"fresca","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 22:09:15","modified":"2004-03-09 22:02:00","fileurl":""},{"id":56248,"heading":"Khazar Zionists of the 13th Tribe","article":"HEy there kiddies out there in TV land \r\nHeRes some info about the \r\nrights of Israel in the middle east \r\nand claims of the &quot;jewish&quot; homeland \r\ncheck these links to find out the real orgins of the &quot;jewish&quot; homeland \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.christusrex.org\/www2\/koestler\/ \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.khazaria.com\/ \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.khazaria.com\/khazar-history.html \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.rechtman.com\/khazaria.htm\r\n","author":"by systemfailure","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-07 22:30:55","modified":"2003-05-07 22:30:55","fileurl":""},{"id":56314,"heading":"morons","article":"Do any of you fucknuts ever think that it diesnt matter if you can prove palestinians ever existed, there are still hundreds of thousands of people whove been under a military occupation for the past 35 years. You fucking idiots seem to think by proving palestinians dont exist you can erase the fact that israel is occupying a group of people. Youre only defense is that arabs are just filthy niggers who deserve it anyways, and that anyone that crtisizes israel is anti-semetic. I'm jewish, and ive been to the West Bank, and those are real people with real lives that deserve to live free of opression reguardless if a bunch of fucking morons can prove that they &quot;exist&quot; or not.","author":"filthy crackbastard","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-08 01:17:56","modified":"2003-05-08 01:17:56","fileurl":""},{"id":56319,"heading":"asdf","article":"&quot;Do any of you fucknuts ever think that it diesnt matter if you can prove palestinians ever existed, there are still hundreds of thousands of people whove been under a military occupation for the past 35 years. You fucking idiots seem to think by proving palestinians dont exist you can erase the fact that israel is occupying a group of people. Youre only defense is that arabs are just filthy niggers who deserve it anyways, and that anyone that crtisizes israel is anti-semetic. I'm jewish, and ive been to the West Bank, and those are real people with real lives that deserve to live free of opression reguardless if a bunch of fucking morons can prove that they &quot;exist&quot; or not.&quot;\r\n\r\nyeah, and therefore there are plenty of arab states that they can move to, while only one jewish state where jews can move to","author":"afd","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-08 01:43:37","modified":"2003-05-08 01:43:37","fileurl":""},{"id":56437,"heading":"The New X","article":"So if i stole a car from a rich person\r\nwould it be wrong for him to press charges?\r\ncant i just say &quot;you have enough money you can afford to buy another car whereas i have no money&quot;\r\n\r\n","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-08 19:52:34","modified":"2003-05-08 19:52:34","fileurl":""},{"id":56439,"heading":"The New X","article":"Sorry, I'm much too stupid to understand your post.","author":"afd","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-08 19:55:00","modified":"2003-05-08 19:55:00","fileurl":""},{"id":56469,"heading":"asdf","article":"&quot;So if i stole a car from a rich person \r\nwould it be wrong for him to press charges? \r\ncant i just say &quot;you have enough money you can afford to buy another car whereas i have no money&quot; &quot;\r\n\r\nit would be more like 'stealing' a pen, not a car from a rich person, He'd still have the 99.99% of his net worth, as arabs have of the land they conquered in the last 1000+ years.","author":"asdf","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 01:29:58","modified":"2003-05-09 01:29:58","fileurl":""},{"id":56473,"heading":"The New X","article":"I disagree.\r\nThe value of someone's home cannot be compared to the value of a pen.","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 01:51:52","modified":"2003-05-09 01:51:52","fileurl":""},{"id":56475,"heading":"IQ Test","article":"Let's find out whether you have a measurable IQ. \r\n\r\nChoose the answer that most closely agrees with your own views.\r\n\r\nThe bad guys in this conflict are:\r\n\r\na)  The Israeli people - the Jews\r\n\r\nb) The Palestinian people\r\n\r\nc) The Israeli leadership\r\n\r\nd) The Palestinian leadership.\r\n\r\nIf you picked (d), congratulations! You've been following the news and you have a functional brain.\r\n\r\nIf you picked any of the other choices you're SID positive (Severe Intelligence Deficit). ","author":"Bush Admirer","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 02:07:28","modified":"2003-05-09 02:07:28","fileurl":""},{"id":56481,"heading":"The New X","article":"sorry bush admirer\r\nbut im afraid this conflict isnt as simplistic as you think.\r\n\r\nunfortunately, both sides have committed some pretty despicable acts.\r\n\r\nas long as each side proclaims their innocence and tries to play the part of the victim blame will just be passed on to each other and the cycle of violence will continue.\r\n\r\nboth sides need to recognize the evil of their actions both in the past and in the present if at all peace is to be achieved.","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 03:01:49","modified":"2003-05-09 03:01:49","fileurl":""},{"id":56482,"heading":"The New X","article":"sorry bush admirer\r\nbut im afraid this conflict isnt as simplistic as you think.\r\n\r\nunfortunately, both sides have committed some pretty despicable acts.\r\n\r\nas long as each side proclaims their innocence and tries to play the part of the victim blame will just be passed on to each other and the cycle of violence will continue.\r\n\r\nboth sides need to recognize the evil of their actions both in the past and in the present if at all peace is to be achieved.","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 03:03:51","modified":"2003-05-09 03:03:51","fileurl":""},{"id":56483,"heading":"Ever notice the illogic of the","article":"...Zionist position.\r\n\r\nSure there were people there but the Jews suffered the Holocaust.\r\n\r\nTherefore it is alright for the descendents of some of the Jews who lived through the Holocaust, and a whole bunch who didn't, to move in and disposess, kill, intimidate and suppress people who were not party to the Holocaust in the same fashion Jews were dispossessed, killed, and intimidated by the NAZI's.\r\n\r\nMakes a lot of sense. Doesn't it?","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 03:55:23","modified":"2003-05-09 03:55:23","fileurl":""},{"id":56494,"heading":"Palestine","article":"&quot;not party to the Holocaust&quot;\r\n Ermm hmm *clears his throat* \r\nhmmm also besides that....\r\n\r\nthese phrases ring a bell....\r\n-drive them into the sea\r\nand \r\n- kill jews until the jews are hiding behind bushes and the arab says &quot;here is a jew hiding behind this bush come and kill them&quot; [aproximatly what is said in the hamas charter]","author":"Cough","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 06:56:17","modified":"2003-05-09 06:56:17","fileurl":""},{"id":56510,"heading":"Memo to &quot;Cough&quot;","article":"You sound as though you hate those wicked Muslims as much as we do. If you're a cyberterrorist who despises Muslims, please visit our website.\r\n\r\nwww.kobehq.com","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 10:31:51","modified":"2003-05-09 10:31:51","fileurl":""},{"id":56614,"heading":"fake Kobe","article":"your sarcasm amounts to support of one of the lines that i was opposing.. so which is it? \r\ndo you support the hamas charter by any chance?","author":"Cough","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 17:28:29","modified":"2003-05-09 17:28:29","fileurl":""},{"id":56617,"heading":"Memo to &quot;Cough&quot;","article":"You sound as though you hate those wicked Muslims as much as we do. If you're a cyberterrorist who despises Muslims, please visit our website. \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.kobehq.com\r\n\r\n","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-09 17:30:00","modified":"2003-05-09 17:30:00","fileurl":""},{"id":56906,"heading":"Sarcasm","article":"haha you are like a &quot;soft drink purist&quot; running around saying &quot;I hate dr pepper&quot; with an official Dr pepper sign.\r\nyour advertising the thing you dont like and as a result people probably try it.\r\nI guess your weak form of sarcasm is a blow to leftist ideology. so um thanks...","author":"Cough","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-10 17:05:36","modified":"2003-05-10 17:05:36","fileurl":""},{"id":56908,"heading":"^","article":"I posted the above comment. I'm mentally unstable. I also hate Muslims.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-10 17:08:28","modified":"2003-05-10 17:08:28","fileurl":""},{"id":56924,"heading":"Gibberish","article":"as you can see I am fond of gibberish.","author":"Cough","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-10 17:18:18","modified":"2003-05-10 17:18:18","fileurl":""},{"id":57080,"heading":"Well","article":"No actually I lied... I am a muslim and I love muslims.\r\nI just hate pinkos. ","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-11 06:25:40","modified":"2003-05-11 06:25:40","fileurl":""},{"id":57380,"heading":"^","article":"I did not post the above comment. Everyone knows that I hate Mudslums.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-15 15:56:53","modified":"2003-05-15 15:56:53","fileurl":""},{"id":57643,"heading":"KOBE SBM","article":"But I am a true believer in Islam !!\r\nStop faking me!!","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-16 23:29:43","modified":"2003-05-16 23:29:43","fileurl":""},{"id":57667,"heading":"Fuck you Jew","article":"Fuck all of you lying\r\nShylocks.\r\n","author":"systemfailure","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-17 01:34:29","modified":"2003-05-17 01:34:29","fileurl":""},{"id":57760,"heading":"The New X","article":"Wha Jew just call me?","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-17 16:09:56","modified":"2003-05-17 16:09:56","fileurl":""},{"id":57899,"heading":"above is a troll","article":"What up.\r\nKind of a shame that\r\nsome losers can only find time to \r\npost racial slurrs using another persons name.\r\nNow unfortunate that fresca uses my name (again)\r\nto try to convince the rest of indymedia that\r\nI am a &quot;jew hater&quot;.\r\nNothing could be further from the truth of the matter.\r\nBecause i am anti zionist\r\nin her eyes\r\nit makes me anti jew\r\nBut as usual, shes wrong again.,","author":"systemfailure","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-18 08:14:44","modified":"2003-05-18 08:14:44","fileurl":""},{"id":57922,"heading":"MORE TROLLING","article":"Again with using my handle.\r\nGet your own.\r\nregardless of what you call yourself\r\nyou're still racist.\r\nYou still hate Jews and no amount of \r\nspamming is going to change that.\r\nyour lackies may defend you but then again\r\nthey're idiots.\r\nDeep down you know you're a neo-nazi.\r\nJust another garden variety hatemonger.","author":"systemfailure","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-18 13:31:41","modified":"2003-05-18 13:31:41","fileurl":""},{"id":57951,"heading":"Definitions","article":"Zionism:  The desire of Jews to establish a state of their own in the tradiltional Jewish Homelasd, Israel.\r\n\r\nAnti-Zionism:  A belief that Jews do not deserve, like all other peoples, their own autonomous homeland.  SEE ALSO:  &quot;Drive them into the sea&quot;","author":"daveman","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-18 15:55:06","modified":"2003-05-18 15:55:06","fileurl":""},{"id":57994,"heading":"The New X","article":"anti-zionism = the belief that jews (who had lived in places like germany, russia, ethiopia, poland and who had no ties to israel except for the fact that in some book it said that jews lived there 3000 years ago) like all other people, should not be allowed to kick a group of people (who were living there at the time, who's parents and grandparents had been living there, who owned houses and farms there) out of their homes to make new homes for themselves.","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-18 19:59:34","modified":"2003-05-18 19:59:34","fileurl":""},{"id":58008,"heading":"Well, that's interesting...","article":"...everybody has a right to a homeland.\r\n\r\nExcept Jews.","author":"daveman","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-18 23:38:28","modified":"2003-05-18 23:38:28","fileurl":""},{"id":58157,"heading":"The New X","article":"everybody has a right to not get kicked out of their homeland.\r\n\r\nexcept palestinians\r\n\r\nnobody has the right to kick people out of their homeland.\r\n\r\nexcept jews","author":"The New X","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-20 02:41:05","modified":"2003-05-20 02:41:05","fileurl":""},{"id":58251,"heading":"Could somebody please...","article":"...help me take my head out of my ass?","author":"daveman","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-20 14:28:38","modified":"2003-05-20 14:28:38","fileurl":""},{"id":58470,"heading":"The New X","article":"everybody has a right to not get kicked out of their homeland. \r\n\r\nexcept palestinians \r\n\r\n- try looking at the history of every race on earth.. they have all been kicked out of their homelands at some stage.\r\n\r\nThe germans were kicked out of parts of checezlovakia and other places in europe.. shall we start giving them back their land? fourth reich anyone?\r\n\r\nnobody has the right to kick people out of their homeland. \r\n\r\nexcept jews\r\n\r\n-- try looking at the history of &quot;almost&quot; every race on earth they have &quot;almost&quot; all kicked someone out of a homeland (depending on how you define a &quot;race&quot;)\r\n\r\nI suggest we give israel back to the australian aborigonies who clearly got there first.","author":"systemfailure","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-20 21:18:05","modified":"2003-05-20 21:18:05","fileurl":""},{"id":58512,"heading":"plan A","article":"Heres my middle east plan\r\nThrow Bush and Sharone in the haig with milosivich  where they belong. ","author":"wavemaster","parent_id":56154,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-21 01:05:50","modified":"2003-05-21 01:05:50","fileurl":""}]}