{"article":{"id":52299,"heading":"CIA's Golden Victory - US Bribed Iraqi Military Leaders","author":"Joe Goebbles","created":"2003-04-22 16:01:50","modified":"2013-11-10 23:53:28","last_modified":"Mon, 11 Nov 2013 06:53:28","article":"<br>  <br> CIA's Golden Victory - US Bribed Iraqi Military Leaders  <br><br>  <br>  <br> Republican Guard generals betrayed Saddam Hussein in return for huge payments in cash and gold, it emerged last night. In so doing, they allowed the Allies to seize Baghdad virtually without a fight. <br><br> Resistance around the capital from six Republican Guard divisions just melted away because the senior commander of Saddam's elite troops defected and ordered his men to give up or go home. <br><br> He was spirited away by a United States Apache helicopter to a secret location. The astonishing revelations of the double-dealing at the heart of Saddam's inner circle expose the immense contribution made to the coalition campaign by undercover squads of SAS special forces. <br><br> Working hand-in-hand with MI6 and CIA paramilitaries they were responsible for buying off factions of Saddam's henchmen. <br><br> The Joint Special Operations Task Forces have been operating undercover since before the war, contacting Iraqi military, intelligence and secret police leaders to make them change sides. <br><br> The teams carried suitcases full of gold bullion, US dollars, Swiss francs and euros to buy off regime leaders, and threatened to kill those who refused to cooperate. <br><br> The same techniques had been refined in Afghanistan where Operation Jawbreaker led to the defection of senior warlords. <br><br> General Maher Sufyan, the head of the Republican Guard, was allegedly spirited away from the Al Rasheed airstrip, in south-east Baghdad, to an unknown location, according to the French newspaper Le Monde and the leading Arab news channel Al Jazeera. <br><br> Intelligence sources have told strategic analysts Stratfor that senior Republican Guard generals and commanders from the Special Republican Guard and the Iraqi security services betrayed Saddam and revealed his location on two occasions, leading to the \"decapitation\" raids designed to assassinate him and his senior men. <br><br> They then cut a secret deal agreeing to surrender in the second week of the war and sabotaged the attempts of Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz and Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan, two of Saddam's key henchmen, to fight on. <br><br> They only discovered the betrayal when US forces passed Karbala in the \"red zone\" around Baghdad. <br><br> In the days before the battle that never was Allied commanders at Central Command in Qatar boasted that they were in contact with senior Iraqi civilian and military leaders. <br><br> They have since admitted that a reward system exists to buy information on the whereabouts of the most wanted war criminals and the location of weapons of mass destruction. <br><br> US commanders have been unable to show any pictures of Republican Guard troops and their equipment destroyed in the advance. Yesterday US Brigadier-General Vince Brooks said he was \"not aware\" of the deal with Sufyan, but he admitted: \"We know there are a number of military formations that chose not to fight for the regime. <br><br> \"We do deal with leaders that are out there - either local leaders, tribal leaders or in some cases military leaders.\" <br><br> He hinted that those who had cooperated with the coalition may not lose their jobs. <br><br> \"There will be former military members who will have a role to play in a future Iraq, \" he said. <br><br> Saddam and his son Qusay, who was the overall commander of the Republican Guard, may have been killed or so severely wounded in the first \"decapitation\" raid on the first night of the war that they lost control of the troops. <br><br> Saddam's other son Uday is thought to have survived. Sources say his presence accounted for the stiff resistance from Fedayeen fighters under his command in the first two weeks of the conflict. <br><br> Allied commanders dismissed reports that Saddam is holed up in his birthplace north of Tikrit. <br><br> Maher Sufyan is not included in the \"deck of cards\" handed to Allied troops to help them hunt down the Iraqi regime leaders. Popular Information Minister Mohammed Saeed Al Sahaf, nicknamed Comical Ali, is not on the list either, fuelling specualtion he too may have cut a deal.  <br><br>  <br>  <br> Source:&nbsp;&nbsp; Express\/UK \n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"General Maher Sufyan, the head of the Republican Guard, was allegedly spirited away from the Al Rasheed airstrip, in south-east Baghdad, to an unknown location, according to the French newspaper Le Monde and the leading Arab news channel Al Jazeera.","numcomment":38,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/04\/52299.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":52301,"heading":"Sound the Horns.","article":"All celebrate the military triumph. Or else.","author":"I Claudius","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-22 16:02:57","modified":"2003-04-22 16:02:57","fileurl":""},{"id":52311,"heading":"Simple","article":"Forsooth, Claudius, &quot;or else&quot; what?\r\n\r\nRemember thou art mortal.\r\n","author":"Simple Simon","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-22 16:46:41","modified":"2003-04-22 16:46:41","fileurl":""},{"id":52314,"heading":"You Claudius","article":"So:  we're scum for paying off military leaders to split, therefore saving many lives on both sides.\r\n\r\nIf we hadn't paid them off, there would have been very bloody battles, and we'd be scum for killing so many people.\r\n\r\nCan't have it both ways.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-22 16:51:51","modified":"2003-04-22 16:51:51","fileurl":""},{"id":52330,"heading":"Bribery","article":"Thanks Dubya, you scumbag. Thanks for making a few Iraqi generals rich while our school system suffers. Of course, I know how threatened you are of an educated populace.","author":"US Taxpayer","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-22 17:26:01","modified":"2003-04-22 17:26:01","fileurl":""},{"id":52433,"heading":"Simple","article":"Judging by the content of your post, I suppose we could use more funding for education.\r\n\r\nAnd for mental health.","author":"Simple Simon","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-22 19:48:48","modified":"2003-04-22 19:48:48","fileurl":""},{"id":52435,"heading":"Simple Simon","article":"Way to go, Simon. Whenever we conservatives don't have anything intelligent to say, we can always resort to character assassination. It really shows how desperate we are. Great job!","author":"Bush Admirer","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-22 19:51:04","modified":"2003-04-22 19:51:04","fileurl":""},{"id":52480,"heading":"Hey genius","article":"Hey 'US Taxpayer',\r\n\r\nThe schools are funded by state taxes. The military is funded by federal taxes. \r\n\r\nDuh.","author":"reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 02:31:56","modified":"2003-04-23 02:31:56","fileurl":""},{"id":52510,"heading":"Well then","article":"&quot;Republican Guard generals betrayed Saddam Hussein in return for huge payments in cash and gold, it emerged last night. In so doing, they allowed the Allies to seize Baghdad virtually without a fight. &quot;\r\nAs Daveman has already pointed out, this seems like an entirely brilliant humanitarian effort. Who could possibly have anything against this other than the murderous supporters of the failed barbaric Sadam regime.\r\nThanks for printing even more good news about this perfect war.","author":"fresca","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 04:30:36","modified":"2003-04-23 04:30:36","fileurl":""},{"id":52527,"heading":"Sounds criminal to me","article":"The teams carried suitcases full of gold bullion, US dollars, Swiss francs and euros to buy off regime leaders, \r\nand threatened to kill those who refused to cooperate\r\nI guess the neocons have no problem with bribery and blackmail.\r\nSaving lives?\r\nWho's lives?\r\nAmericans fighting an illegal war.\r\nPlease dont insult our intellegence and pretend that the CIA was doing any &quot;humanitarian&quot;\r\nfavors for the Iraqis.\r\nThey were doing favors for the upper echelon Military officials to desert thier countrymen\r\nand sabotage thier citizenry.\r\nKinda like when we A-bombed Japanese civilians to save American lives eh?\r\n\r\n ","author":"systemfailure","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 08:41:32","modified":"2003-04-23 08:41:32","fileurl":""},{"id":52528,"heading":"Whose lives were saved?","article":"Mostly, Iraqi soldiers.  Many Iraqi civilians, too, who would certainly have been killed in extensive ground fighting, which you would have been screaming about.\r\n\r\nYou can't have it both ways.  The payoffs were a good thing.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 08:44:54","modified":"2003-04-23 08:44:54","fileurl":""},{"id":52564,"heading":"Hey Einstein","article":"Hey &quot;reason,&quot;\r\n\r\nState governments currently have budget deficits. The federal government has the ability to bail them out, as it can borrow money (unlike state governments). Instead, Dubya chose to enrich a few Iraqi generals while our public school system continues to crumble. \r\n\r\nDUH.\r\n\r\nWhy are you so threatened of an educated populace?","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 13:10:49","modified":"2003-04-23 13:10:49","fileurl":""},{"id":52595,"heading":"&quot;Why are you so threatened...","article":"...BY an educated populace?&quot;\r\n\r\nNothing to worry about from the Voice of Alleged Reason.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 13:54:51","modified":"2003-04-23 13:54:51","fileurl":""},{"id":52598,"heading":"You may take your foot out of your mouth now","article":"I have a PhD. What does the glorified latrine scrubber known as &quot;daveman&quot; have? A GED?","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:02:30","modified":"2003-04-23 14:02:30","fileurl":""},{"id":52600,"heading":"Christ you are a moron","article":"&quot;The teams carried suitcases full of gold bullion, US dollars, Swiss francs and euros to buy off regime leaders, \r\nand threatened to kill those who refused to cooperate \r\n&quot;\r\nTo the extent that any of this is even true, here's a few pointers.\r\nThis was a war asshole. I guess you don't know how that works. Let me fill you in. Our guys were there to kill their guys.\r\nWe were gonna kill these regime leaders anyway. Buying them off saved lives in the process of the reaching the real goal which was to keep these scumbags alive so that they might be interrogated. Hopefully to whatever extent is neccessary.\r\nWhen you say this sounds &quot;criminal&quot; you betray your fucking paranoid teenage mentality.\r\nGet your head outa your ass cracker.","author":"fresca","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:04:14","modified":"2003-04-23 14:04:14","fileurl":""},{"id":52603,"heading":"fresca","article":"You can lose an argument without bringing ME into it.","author":"fresca","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:05:58","modified":"2004-03-09 22:02:00","fileurl":""},{"id":52608,"heading":"Ooooh...","article":"...someone on the internet, with no way to prove it, claims to have a PhD, while posting like a 14-year-old.  \r\n\r\nGosh, I'm impressed.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:10:32","modified":"2003-04-23 14:10:32","fileurl":""},{"id":52613,"heading":"caveman daveman","article":"I'm unimpressed with your display of immaturity. I happen to be 30 years-old, you psychic wonder.","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:12:33","modified":"2003-04-23 14:12:33","fileurl":""},{"id":52624,"heading":"Q&A","article":"Q -I have a PhD. What does the glorified latrine scrubber known as &quot;daveman&quot; have? A GED?-\r\nA -To much time on its hands while living on my taxes.","author":"Voice of irritation","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:23:30","modified":"2003-04-23 14:23:30","fileurl":""},{"id":52625,"heading":"Physical age...","article":"...has nothing to do with emotional age...as you keep proving.\r\n\r\nI don't care if you're impressed with me or not.  At least I'm not claiming to be a PhD and looking goofy.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:24:29","modified":"2003-04-23 14:24:29","fileurl":""},{"id":52627,"heading":"You said it","article":"I do like living on your tax dollars. I love being a sponge.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:25:42","modified":"2003-04-23 14:25:42","fileurl":""},{"id":52628,"heading":"Voice of Irritation","article":"&quot;Q -I have a PhD. What does the glorified latrine scrubber known as &quot;daveman&quot; have? A GED?- \r\nA -To much time on its hands while living on my taxes.&quot;\r\n\r\nThanks for the paycheck!","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:25:50","modified":"2003-04-23 14:25:50","fileurl":""},{"id":52629,"heading":"Lovey","article":"No, you look goofy WITHOUT &quot;claiming to be a PhD.&quot;","author":"daveman's wife","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:26:51","modified":"2003-04-23 14:26:51","fileurl":""},{"id":52630,"heading":"bullshit","article":"the whole story is bullshit to begin with.\r\n&quot;He was spirited away by a United States Apache helicopter to a secret location&quot;\r\nThe apache is not a transport and only has two seats so did our beloved general hold onto the bottom. having flown these I know for a fact they would never let an enemy officer ever even get close to an apache.","author":"bull","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:26:52","modified":"2003-04-23 14:26:52","fileurl":""},{"id":52631,"heading":"fake guy","article":"You are so incredibly obvious.  You're faking me, Bush Admirer, Jesus, and everybody else here.  \r\n\r\nSo, this is proper behaviour for a PhD, Voice of Alleged Reason?  What'd you get your doctrate in...tantrums?","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:27:48","modified":"2003-04-23 14:27:48","fileurl":""},{"id":52632,"heading":"Funny","article":"&quot;Emotional age?&quot; What a dolt!","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:29:03","modified":"2003-04-23 14:29:03","fileurl":""},{"id":52634,"heading":"daveman","article":"I'm not &quot;faking&quot; anyone. I got my doctorate in psychology. A psychic, you are not.","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:31:02","modified":"2003-04-23 14:31:02","fileurl":""},{"id":52638,"heading":"Psychology, huh?","article":"That's funny.  \r\n\r\nI'm REAL impressed; did I mention that?\r\n\r\nSo: since you're a psychologist, I'm supposed to consider your opinion on world affairs is somehow more reasoned and consideered than anyone else's?\r\n\r\nGosh...i just can't do that.  \r\n\r\nFurthermore, your denigration of the education of others, about which you know nothing, suggests a deep-seated sense of inferiority and a lack of self-esteem.\r\n\r\nYou get that diagnosis for free.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:35:45","modified":"2003-04-23 14:35:45","fileurl":""},{"id":52640,"heading":"daveman","article":"&quot;So: since you're a psychologist, I'm supposed to consider your opinion on world affairs is somehow more reasoned and considered than anyone else's?&quot; \r\n\r\nOh, and YOURS is? Don't make me laugh.\r\n\r\nYour illogical drivel all over this website suggests a deep-seated sense of simple-mindedness and a lack of insight.\r\n\r\nYou get THAT diagnosis free.","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:39:18","modified":"2003-04-23 14:39:18","fileurl":""},{"id":52644,"heading":"But have you seen me...","article":"...waving around a PhD of debatable existence and pretending to be an expert?\r\n\r\nNope.  \r\n\r\n&quot;..deep-seated sense of simple-mindedness and a lack of insight.&quot;\r\n\r\nVERY impressive headshrinker terminology.  ","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:43:16","modified":"2003-04-23 14:43:16","fileurl":""},{"id":52646,"heading":"daveman","article":"&quot;But have you seen me ... pretending to be an expert?&quot;\r\nYES. \r\n&quot;VERY impressive headshrinker terminology.&quot;\r\nI'm sure that I would be impressed with your potato-peeling technique. ","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:46:39","modified":"2003-04-23 14:46:39","fileurl":""},{"id":52652,"heading":"Wow, you are so...","article":"...not a doctor.  \r\n\r\nI don't know what you're trying to prove, unless it's that you're not nearly as educated as you claim to be.\r\n\r\nMaybe you're trying to claim that anyone who can get hold of the tuition can get a doctorate?\r\n\r\nMaybe you can get your student loan money back.  Just go to the bank and speak to them for a few minutes; they'll realize you didn't get what you paid for and give you a refund.  Take your receipts.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 14:55:35","modified":"2003-04-23 14:55:35","fileurl":""},{"id":52687,"heading":"Wow, you are so...","article":"...not intelligent.\r\n\r\n&quot;I don't know what you're trying to prove, unless it's that you're not nearly as educated as you claim to be.&quot;\r\nAnd what are YOU trying to prove? That the US military will accept ANYONE? \r\n\r\n&quot;Maybe you're trying to claim that anyone who can get hold of the tuition can get a doctorate?&quot; \r\nIf that were true, then YOU would have a doctorate, too.\r\n\r\n&quot;Maybe you can get your student loan money back. Just go to the bank and speak to them for a few minutes; they'll realize you didn't get what you paid for and give you a refund. Take your receipts.&quot;\r\nI worked my way through school. It's kind of like being able to walk and chew gum at the same time. I know that is a task that would require great ability on your part, but you should try it some time.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 16:00:47","modified":"2003-04-23 16:00:47","fileurl":""},{"id":52710,"heading":"You know,","article":"...for a doctor, you have really lousy people skills.\r\n\r\n&quot;I know that is a task that would require great ability on your part, but you should try it some time. &quot;\r\n\r\nHa ha!  Is that from your dissertation?\r\n\r\nLook, Skippy.  You don't impress me.  Your insults have zero - count 'em, zero - effect on me.  Your continued sneering remarks about the education of others merely shows just what a snotty guy you are.  \r\n\r\nI pity your patients...assuming you actually have any, of course.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 16:19:21","modified":"2003-04-23 16:19:21","fileurl":""},{"id":52718,"heading":"daveman","article":"&quot;Ha ha! Is that from your dissertation?&quot;\r\n I'm surprised that you even know what a dissertation IS.\r\n\r\n&quot;Look, Skippy. You don't impress me. Your insults have zero - count 'em, zero - effect on me.&quot;\r\nOh, and do you actually think that YOU impress ANYONE? Do you actually think that YOUR insults have ANY effect on ANYONE?\r\n\r\n&quot;I pity your patients...assuming you actually have any, of course.&quot;\r\nI'm a professor, you imbecile. I I DID have any patients, THEY'D be pitying YOU.\r\n\r\n","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 16:25:26","modified":"2003-04-23 16:25:26","fileurl":""},{"id":52731,"heading":"Nope.","article":"I'm not here to impress anybody.  (You can tell because i don't wave around an alleged PhD.)\r\n\r\n&quot;I'm a professor, you imbecile.&quot;\r\n\r\nWell, that explains it.  \r\n\r\nThose who can, do; those who can't, teach.&quot;\r\n\r\n&quot;I I DID have any patients, THEY'D be pitying YOU.&quot;\r\n\r\nYou may as well be shouting, &quot;I know you are, but what am I?&quot;\r\n\r\nWhat school do you indoncrin...I mean, teach at?  So I can forbid my children to go there...","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 16:33:16","modified":"2003-04-23 16:33:16","fileurl":""},{"id":52738,"heading":"daveman","article":"&quot;What school do you indoncrin...I mean, teach at? So I can forbid my children to go there...&quot;\r\nNo need to worry, your children are destined for a GED. They won't be able to gain admission.\r\n\r\n&quot;You may as well be shouting, &quot;I know you are, but what am I?&quot;&quot; \r\nI don't shout. You see, emotion and logic don't go together. Not that you know anything about logic.\r\n\r\nThose who can, do; those who can't, enlist in the Air Force.\r\n\r\n&quot;I'm not here to impress anybody.&quot;\r\nGood because the only thing you are doing is making people laugh. ","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 16:40:07","modified":"2003-04-23 16:40:07","fileurl":""},{"id":52767,"heading":"VoR","article":"&quot;Good because the only thing you are doing is making people laugh.&quot;\r\n\r\nThat's why I'm here, you idiot!\r\n\r\nI sure didn't come here for the scintillating conversation.","author":"daveman","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 17:26:37","modified":"2003-04-23 17:26:37","fileurl":""},{"id":52816,"heading":"caveman daveman","article":"&quot;That's why I'm here, you idiot!&quot; \r\nHypocrisy epitomized. The court jester calling SOMEONE ELSE a buffoon.\r\n","author":"The Voice of Reason","parent_id":52299,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-04-23 18:24:20","modified":"2003-04-23 18:24:20","fileurl":""}]}