{"article":{"id":38753,"heading":"CNN net attack underway now!","author":"radical","created":"2003-03-23 06:35:53","modified":"2003-03-23 21:42:01","last_modified":"Mon, 24 Mar 2003 04:42:01","article":"
Activists from Belgium have set up a site that reloads the CNN page every ten seconds. If enough people go to that page and leave their browsers open, we will shut down CNN.
CNN has been a mouthpiece for the war effort from the beginning. Although I notice they haven't reported that their own reporters have been kicked out of Iraq (see http:\/\/media.guardian.co.uk\/broadcast\/story\/0<\/a>,7493,919379,00.html )
They misrepresent the truth of domestic support for this war by giving equal time to pro-war demonstrations (tens of thousands of people in the US) and anti-war demonstrations (millions of people around the world for over a month now).
Their reports scream 'BE AFRAID' and give very little other information, hoping the public, afraid of terrorism will look to the president (or, technically, governor) to lead them to safety while every day he jeopardizes more American lives by creating the perfect conditions for terrorist retaliation.
Visiting this site is one way to fight the information war, which will ultimately be what touches people's hearts and minds as they make their political decisions.
I've been sitting here on my puter for about an hour and watching the hit #s go up to (now) about 292 hits per minute.
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\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"CNN net attack underway now! ","numcomment":18,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/03\/38753.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":38786,"heading":"shut them down!!","article":"You can run this in multiple windows. The more brower windows you have running it, the more hits on Cnn's page are made. Run as many as your connection will allow. Let it to run all day and all night: while you are at work, while you sleep. \r\n\r\nTake the fight everywhere. Take to the streets. Fight them online. Solidarity Forever.","author":"joe hill","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 07:54:07","modified":"2003-03-23 07:54:07","fileurl":""},{"id":38806,"heading":"mr.","article":"In other words, CNN shouldn't be allowed to exercise First Amendment rights because you disagree with them?\r\n\r\nYou are also stating that politically-driven vigilantism is OK. Well, then, I suppose you won't care if pro-war types take to the streets and slice the tongues out of the anti-war protestors with rusty razorblades. I mean, *you* just fully implied it's OK to break the law (DOS attacks = extremely illegal) to harm someone and violate their rights as long as their opinions offend you.\r\n\r\nYou are no better than Pat Buchanan and the right-wingers whom you claim you're so different from. Go stick your thumb where it belongs you Chomsky-droning fascist gestapo.\r\n\r\n"Peace" protestors. Emphasis on quotes.","author":"paizuri","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 08:38:15","modified":"2003-03-23 08:38:15","fileurl":""},{"id":38868,"heading":"x","article":"@paizuri\r\n\r\nCNN is not about freedom of speech. it is an organization spreading US government lies and propaganda all over the world. their primary intent is not to inform people or to state opinions but instead raise fear among them and manipulate them in the worst possible way.\r\n\r\nI'd say bringing CNN servers down is an act of civil disobediance, a morally justified action. \r\n\r\nAnd you should spare your big words for people who deserve it, instead of trying to run down peace activists here.\r\n\r\n","author":"logique","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 10:57:10","modified":"2003-03-23 10:57:10","fileurl":""},{"id":38876,"heading":"Ya know, that's almost word for word...","article":"["CNN is not about freedom of speech. it is an organization spreading US government lies and propaganda all over the world."]\r\n\r\n...what the Iraqi "communications" officer said in a press conference three hours ago.\r\n\r\n","author":"MadMaxim","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 11:02:27","modified":"2003-03-23 11:02:27","fileurl":""},{"id":38879,"heading":"you miss the point, on purpose","article":"Last I checked, lies are protected by the First Amendment, so yes, you are taking it upon yourselves to deprive other people of their freedoms. I don't CARE what CNN is saying, be it lies or groveling-for-ratings which is pretty much what it is, they can publish whatever they please.\r\n\r\nIf you think it's justified to knock out a site because a group of people think it's full of lies, then, in principle, you'd have no problem if a group of people who disagree with liberal theory were to take it upon themselves to do the same thing to indymedia? I see more lies on this site than on most places, my friend, but GUESS WHAT -- people have a right to post them, and NOBODY -- not you, not the government, not a mob of pimple-faced anarchists -- has any sort of right whatsoever to silence them through vigilantism, even if they are the biggest lies in the world. Don't like the lies? Then cleverly rebut and debunk them like a grown-up, if you're capable that is.\r\n\r\nCNN, and again I reiterate -- your personal feelings toward CNN are irrelevant in this matter and do not justify this blatantly illegal DOS attack -- has a Constitutional right to publish their media as much as indymedia does to publish theirs.\r\n\r\nAny of you loonies working to "take out" CNN are only proving yourself and anyone else who follows to be a bunch of intolerant and hypocritical yokels with no regard for other peoples' rights or liberties, which comes as no surprise. Stomping out views and media that pose a threat to your agenda is called fascism, and that policy certainly doesn't help win people over to your cause, that's for sure. Please stop pretending you believe in Constitutional rights when, in fact, your most creative and original solution to all the world's problems is by forcefully denying other people of theirs.\r\n\r\nYOU ARE A FASCIST.","author":"paizuri","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 11:15:18","modified":"2003-03-23 11:15:18","fileurl":""},{"id":38882,"heading":"oh my","article":"@MadMaxim\r\n\r\nWe'll since you probably got that quote from CNN it's obviously true. ;-)\r\n\r\nSerious now, guess what, I don't like my opinion being put close to what an Iraqi official says. But *if* the guy really said that, it is not automatically a lie just because it comes out of the mouth of a big time liar. If you have a look at your own argument, this would be like saying that everything that peace protesters say automatically becomes invalid if repeated by an iraqi official. \r\n\r\nI have a quote for you to read while I'm out protesting and you still sit in front of your computer writing polemic bullshit. Hope you'll understand it before I return. \r\n\r\n"This problem has existed from ancient times as characterized by the remark of Epimenides the Cretan who said "all Cretans lie." How do we make sense of this utterance? Is it true or false? If Epimenides is telling the truth, then all Cretans do lie, but then he is not lying so not all Cretans lie and the statement can't be true. But if the statement is false, then not all Cretans lie, and Epimenides would be lying in saying so and so the statement can't be false. So which is it? If he is lying, then he is telling the truth, and if he is telling the truth, then he is lying." \r\n","author":"logique","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 11:29:18","modified":"2003-03-23 11:29:18","fileurl":""},{"id":38884,"heading":"illogique","article":">>>We'll since you probably got that \r\n>>>quote from CNN it's obviously true. ;-) \r\n\r\nIt was live video - of a press conference with the Iraqi communications dir. IN ENGLISH his lips were moving and everything, honest.\r\n\r\nPretty hard to fake.","author":"MadMaxim","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 11:44:12","modified":"2003-03-23 11:44:12","fileurl":""},{"id":38895,"heading":"CNN sux FOX sux etc","article":"All you pro-CNN types:\r\nYou know, Fox just won an appeal, after a third try. They won a case brought against them by a reporter who got fired for refusing to publish a story she knew was patently distorted.\r\nThey jury in the appeal said there was 'nothing illegal' about distorting the truth in the news.\r\n\r\nNow if that isn't something. Lie as a professional reporter, or we'll fire you. CNN is in the same boat. So go f* yourselves and don't ever insult Chomsky again. There are lives at stake and we tolerate lies? Our courts tolerate lies? We'll wait for a re-judgment, but until then we'll act.\r\n\r\nIncidentally, it was insanely gratifying to hear marchers chanting 'shame on Fox--Fox must go' as we happened to be going up the street past (one of their many) buildings.\r\n","author":"man mity","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 13:35:39","modified":"2003-03-23 13:35:39","fileurl":""},{"id":38960,"heading":"I am","article":"Wow. Would we even HAVE a Constitution if it wasn't for civil disobedience? By the way - while CNN does have the freedom of the press, the PEOPLE have the right to peaceful assembly. If people want to participate in a virtual peaceful assembly it is their RIGHT. \r\n\r\nAs a reminder here is Ammendment 1 of the Bill of Rights:\r\n"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." ","author":"Rogue","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 18:00:48","modified":"2003-03-23 18:00:48","fileurl":""},{"id":39001,"heading":"please remove your head from your ass","article":"I never defended CNN's actions, nor do I personally care for the network. I was defending their right to publish, regardless of whether or not you like what they publish. Simple as that.\r\n\r\nYou are obviously so hellbent on your agenda that you're willing to fuck other people in the process. You are no better than Bush & Co..\r\n\r\nBut go ahead, reply with another sad excuse to make yourself feel better about acting like a Mussolini black-shirt. The message you're sending is: "Bush is a fascist, but we're willing to act like fascists to express our views." Plain and simple. Hypocrite.","author":"paizuri","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 19:34:53","modified":"2003-03-23 19:34:53","fileurl":""},{"id":39005,"heading":"And Rogue","article":"Peaceful assembly is one thing -- trying to clog someone's bandwidth so they cannot publish media that YOU don't like is another.\r\n\r\nThough it just occured to me. Even if this temporarily hurts CNN's servers, the webmasters will see all these extra thousands of hits on their pages, and they can always shell out money they easily have to upgrade their connection. I'm sure it's already something upwards of an OC3 connection so they're probably not even phased, really.\r\n\r\nStill, it's the -principle- of "silence these people because we don't like what they're saying" that the starter of this topic is preaching and advocating -- that is mob mentality censorship, not peaceful assembly.","author":"paizuri","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 19:47:59","modified":"2003-03-23 19:47:59","fileurl":""},{"id":39013,"heading":"Hacking by any means is stuped","article":"The attacking of a web site is pure stupidity, the attack and be luanched bouth way as this site has seen.","author":"Skinner","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 20:11:29","modified":"2003-03-23 20:11:29","fileurl":""},{"id":39015,"heading":"@paizuri","article":"i guess calling people fascists\/pimplefaced anarchists whatever instead of getting into a dialog with them may be ok for you, but it certainly isn't for me. \r\n\r\nyour comment indeed had some substance but as long as you refuse to share your opinion in a fair manner just go on and talk to someone else.\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"logique","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 20:27:12","modified":"2003-03-23 20:27:12","fileurl":""},{"id":39018,"heading":"This is really a funny thread","article":"People on the left are so completely deluded. It seems like they never get it right.\r\n\r\nCNN is pretty far to the left.\r\n\r\nTrue enough, they're not willing to push their left leaning agenda to the point of directly and repeatedly lying to the America public. They're also not willing to become a purely anti-American propaganda outlet. If that's what you want you can tune into Pacifica Radio.\r\n\r\nFor fair and balanced news - and for accurate reporting - Fox News Network is the gold standard.\r\n","author":"Bush Admirer","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 20:40:08","modified":"2003-03-23 20:40:08","fileurl":""},{"id":39019,"heading":"@MadMaxim","article":"That is really a shitty coincidence. If I had seen this I would likely have chosen other words. I can assure you that i'm not watching those "news" anymore, so if it wasn't for that iraqi official to personally call me a before I wrote this post and tell me to write it down here in the exact words, it must be a pure coincidence.\r\n\r\nBUT that doesn't change my opinion because I still think that there is truth behind those words, no matter what a**hole might have said it on tv before. ","author":"logique","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 20:40:22","modified":"2003-03-23 20:40:22","fileurl":""},{"id":39020,"heading":"read it again","article":"I did explain my reasoning in a fair manner behind why bombarding a web site because you don't like what it publishes is wrong.\r\n\r\nOf course you choose to ignore that part and nit-pick the irrelevant part, just like the other fellow accusing me of being a "CNN lover" even after I stated that I don't personally care for CNN's techniques.\r\n\r\nI offered my clearly-explained rationale against mob-mentality censorship and it's implications. I have yet to hear a favorable argument FOR it other than empty excuses.","author":"paizuri","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 20:47:41","modified":"2003-03-23 20:47:41","fileurl":""},{"id":39021,"heading":"Shouting them down...","article":"I have been present at a number of protests over the years and the thing that has kept me from embracing the emotion of the average bunch of demonstrators is behavior like this. Misguided attempts at censorship because you dont control the message. CNN is generally known as a left leaning news organization. If they report things you dont want to hear you have the right to change the channel. I have seen protestors knock down counter demonstrators and destroy their signs. Self righteous arrogance like this does nothing to advance your cause and ruins your credibility.","author":"World Citizen","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 21:00:34","modified":"2003-03-23 21:00:34","fileurl":""},{"id":39038,"heading":"CNN shutdown?","article":"I guess they have to shut down CNN because it's broadcasting images that are at odds with what they claimed would be happening. They're probably just feeling the need to reduce their cognitive dissonance. Why else would they be spinning the most massively improbable and ad-hoc conspiracy theories we've seen in a long time. Sooo, I'm sure the 5% or so of journalists who voted for Bush are really behind everything we see in the news. The rest have been bought off by the Bushes, which is why they constantly write articles that rip him to shreds. Otherwise the public might suspect something.\r\n\r\nYou insist on gettig your own message out, as loudly as possible, but seem to be terrified that some other competing message is allowed to be heard. You want to engage in attacks to eliminate the sources of the other message. That's pretty much straight Marxist or Fascist behavior.\r\n\r\nIf you think everyone<\/b> else must be wearing blinders because they can't see what you see, no matter how much you point to it, it is probably because you're hallucinating.\r\n\r\n","author":"Why?","parent_id":38753,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-23 21:42:01","modified":"2003-03-23 21:42:01","fileurl":""}]}