KOBE Headquarters Fights anti<\/title>\r\n<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="l, default">\r\n<\/head>\r\n\r\n<body background="kobeback.jpg">\r\n\r\n <div align="left"><img border="0" src="kobe2.jpg" width="153" height="87"><\/div>\r\n\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n\r\n <div align="left"><b><font size="4" face="Arial" color="#0000FF">KOBE \r\n Headquarters Fights anti-American Dissident\/Terrorist groups on the \r\n Internet<\/font><\/b><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman">KOBE Headquarters opened on \r\n November 4, 2002 at <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com">\r\n http:\/\/www.kobehq.com<\/a> and has become one of the hottest new sites on \r\n the Internet. Shortly after it's inauguration, KOBE Headquarters was \r\n attacked by dissidents and organized subversive groups which have been \r\n using the Internet to spread anti-American propaganda. Before KOBE came \r\n along, they were free to roam the internet, opening message boards and \r\n websites which openly seek to destroy the Government of the United \r\n States and other countries through subversive means. Pictures of the \r\n President of the United States with the Nazi flag as it's background, \r\n inverted flags and government seals, calls to spy on and harass \r\n government officials. International figures in other democratic nations \r\n have not been immune to these activities. <\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman">KOBE feels that these \r\n groups have gone unchecked and that their anti-American efforts should \r\n not be regarded with apathy. We will actively fight them in support of \r\n our government. Your lack of concern for freedom as it exists in the \r\n free nations may one day result in losing it. AOL and a growing number \r\n of software companies which provide content blocking for children and \r\n institutions of learning have begun to block access to resources \r\n operated by these subversive groups operating freely on the Internet. \r\n Failure to monitor activities from such groups could provide a fertile \r\n ground for terrorist propaganda, and covert communications designed to \r\n undermine democracy. Active members of these groups claim that their \r\n right to free speech is denied by these actions, however, in crucial \r\n times, such measures may be justifiable (albeit arbitrary).<\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman">WARNING: Some sections of \r\n the KOBE Headquarters website contain nudity and commentary which \r\n certain individuals may find offensive. You must be 18 or over to visit \r\n the site. <\/font><b><font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/disclaimer.htm">DISCLAIMER<\/a> <\/font><\/b>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">KOBE is not an organization, but all like \r\n thinkers are "members" of KOBE.<\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="center"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">KOBE invites you \r\n to visit <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com">KOBE Headquarters<\/a> <\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><b>Become a part of \r\n the KOBE Action:<\/b><\/font><\/div><div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Arial">UNCENSORED KOBE forums:\r\n <\/font><font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/kobeforums\/index.php">KOBE Forum<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial"><a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/kobeforums\/index.php">s<\/a>, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/forum.asiaco.com\/kobehq2">Asiaco Forum<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.voy.com\/120108\/">Voy Forum<\/a><\/font><\/div><div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Arial">Commentary: <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/commentary.htm">KOBE HQ<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/kobesbm.htm">KOBE SBM<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/kobescott.htm">KOBE SCOTT<\/a> , \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/join.htm">Join \r\n KOBE<\/a> <\/font><\/div><div align="left">\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/publish.htm">Publish<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial"> \r\n your full length articles at KOBE<\/font><\/div><div align="left">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/mooncult.htm">\r\n <font face="Arial">Islam- The \r\n Moon Cult<\/font><\/a><font face="Arial">, , <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/noban.htm">Bush BANS the Ban<\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/rico.htm">The RICO Act<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/hatespeech.htm">Hate on the Net<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/cyberlibel.htm">CyberLibel<\/a>, \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/subversive.htm">\r\n Subversive Groups<\/a>,\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/libelaw.htm">Libel Law<\/a><\/font>\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/dighatespeech.htm">\r\n Digital Hate Speech<\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Arial">Features are being added every \r\n month. Visit often!<\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><b><font face="Times New Roman">Regular Features \r\n (Please read our <\/font><font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/disclaimer.htm">DISCLAIMER<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">):<\/font><\/b><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div><div align="left">\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Times New Roman">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/headlinenews.htm">US and World<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/scitechnews.htm">Science and Technology \r\n News<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman"> (Updated Daily)<\/font><\/div><div align="left">\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Times New Roman">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/headlinenews.htm">Sports, Late Breaking News, National News, World News<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">.<\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/members.htm">Member List<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/cray.asp">Interactive Database<\/a>, <\/font>\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF"> <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/links.htm">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">KOBE Links<\/font><\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/losers.htm">The TRULY \r\n Pathetic<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/countdown.htm">KOBE Countdowns<\/a>, <\/font>\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/magiclantern.htm">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">FBI Magic Lantern<\/font><\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/news.htm">KOBE News \r\n Announcements<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, KOBE Humor: <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/humorpictures.htm">Pictures<\/a>,\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/humormovies.htm">Flash Movies<\/a>, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/humorjokes.htm">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">Jokes<\/font><\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">The BABES of KOBE, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/babes.htm">Gallery 1<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/Babes\/babesgallery2.htm">\r\n Gallery 2<\/a> <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">(nudity)<\/font><\/div>\r\n\r\n<\/body>\r\n\r\n<\/html>","author":"Jorj Svensen","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2003-02-08 07:22:13","modified":"2003-02-08 07:22:13","fileurl":""},{"id":28442,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...yes, the KOBE site may contain nudity and offensive commentary...but you won't find anything SUBERSIVE....\r\n\r\nFuckin' fascists!","author":"KPC","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-02-08 20:37:10","modified":"2003-02-08 20:37:10","fileurl":""},{"id":55537,"heading":"Ms.","article":"Kobe also likes to attack Middle School message boards. In the rural midwest a group of kobeites has posted lewd messages and pornographic pictures on a Middle School message board. They have engaged in lewd conversation with minors. They are not patriots or Americans.....they are terrorists and no better than Al-Queda or Hussein.","author":"Mom","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 14:17:40","modified":"2003-05-03 14:17:40","fileurl":""},{"id":55540,"heading":"It's Double Standard Days at Indymedia!","article":"You demand that the KOBE website be shut down.\r\n\r\nYet there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth when that web hosting company dropped al Jazeera. The Indymedia collective cried "Oppression!" and moaned about al Jazeera's freedom of speech.\r\n\r\nMake up your minds.\r\n\r\n","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 14:24:00","modified":"2003-05-03 14:24:00","fileurl":""},{"id":55559,"heading":"Apples and oranges, davie boy","article":"Gee, I don't recall al-Jazeera ever engaging in any cyberterrorism. What day is it in your world, davie boy? In the REAL world, it's Friday. Care to join us in the REAL world, davie boy?","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:21:53","modified":"2003-05-03 15:21:53","fileurl":""},{"id":55562,"heading":"Cyberterrorism?","article":"Like raisethefist.com?\r\n\r\nYou guys were yelling pretty loud about their webmaster getting arrested.\r\n\r\nDouble Standard Days, indeed.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:25:43","modified":"2003-05-03 15:25:43","fileurl":""},{"id":55569,"heading":"davemoron","article":"Unsubstantiated allegation.","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:37:07","modified":"2003-05-03 15:37:07","fileurl":""},{"id":55570,"heading":"Also","article":"It's clever that you went from al-Jazeera to raisethefist.com. Very clever. NOT.","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:38:13","modified":"2003-05-03 15:38:13","fileurl":""},{"id":55575,"heading":"Deny it all you want.","article":"Double standards are alive and well and living in Indymedia.\r\n\r\nFrom the above article:\r\n"Dave Young (see bottom of linked page), believed to be owner of Computers N.L.A. has been notified of the activities of the KOBE Organization, but has not taken action to stop the Website's hate activities."\r\n\r\n"They are not patriots or Americans.....they are terrorists and no better than Al-Queda or Hussein."\r\n\r\nFrom the thread JUDGE REJECTS PLEA FOR RAISETHEFIST.COM WEBMASTERhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2002\/10\/19488_comment.php#55459\r\n\r\n"it makes me completely out raged when a young black man is promoting positive change within the world and is now in jail."\r\n\r\n"Raise The Fist is the best anarchic site. \r\nFree Sherman to continue his most important work."\r\n\r\n"I vow to keep the Reclaim guide available online with a proper disclaimer: I do condone, advocate and incite the use of violence against law enforcement authorities and political figures including the president of USA."\r\n\r\n\r\nNow: do you see the double standard? You claim KOBE is guilty of cyberterrorism, yet you rush to the defense of a man who posts bomb instructions on his website. \r\n\r\nExplain why that is not a double standard in action.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:56:25","modified":"2003-05-03 15:56:25","fileurl":""},{"id":55580,"heading":"daveman","article":"I know nothing about raisethefist.com's activities, legal or otherwise. I do, however, know about KOBE's illegal activities. You seem to believe that cyberterrorism is fine, as long as the people engaging in it agree with your political beliefs. It's still odd that you went from al-Jazeera to raisethefist.com. Odd, indeed.","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:06:51","modified":"2003-05-03 16:06:51","fileurl":""},{"id":55594,"heading":"It's not odd at all.","article":"And I'll explain why.\r\n\r\nThe author of the above article wants KOBE shut down for cyberterrorism.\r\n\r\nIndymedia decries the arrest of raisethefists's webmaster, who has been charged with cyberterrorism.\r\n\r\nIndymedia decried al Jazeera being dropped by their American web host. \r\n\r\nThe link tying all these together? The pro-Islamic bias of Indymedia. If an action is performed by Muslims, it is lauded. If the same action is performed by non-Muslims, it is condemned.\r\n\r\nAl Jazeera lost their American host. This was "bad" because the pro-Arab view was perceived to have been lost to America, and there were cries of "oppression!" with governmental involvement suggested.\r\n\r\nKOBE claims to be opposed to violent Islamization in specific and Islam in general, yet does not advocate violence except in self-defense. Indymedia apparently wants KOBE shut down, ostensibly because of "cyberterrorism", but let's be honest: it's because KOBE is anti-Islam.\r\n\r\nRaisethefist.com's webmaster pled guilty to the felony charge of "18 U.S.C. 842 (p)(2)(A): DISTRIBUTION OF INFORMATION RELATING TO EXPLOSIVES, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WITH THE INTENT THAT SUCH INFORMATION BE USED IN FURTHERANCE OF A FEDERAL CRIME OF VIOLENCE." \r\n\r\nFace it: Indymedia loves terrorists, be they anarchists or Islamists. \r\n\r\nI condemn cyberterrorism from any source. Indymedia does not, and the call for the shutdown of KOBE while raisethefist's webmaster is defended is proof.\r\n\r\nLike I said, double standards.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:26:58","modified":"2003-05-03 16:26:58","fileurl":""},{"id":55597,"heading":"daveman-+","article":"I wasn't aware that Indymedia had an official policy regarding cyberterrorism. Whether you choose to believe it or not, the members of KOBE are cyberterrorists. I guess that's okay with you since they're on your side of the political spectrum.","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:32:25","modified":"2003-05-03 16:32:25","fileurl":""},{"id":55598,"heading":"What part of...","article":"..."I condemn cyberterrorism from any source." is giving you trouble?\r\n\r\nI never claimed KOBE were not cyberterrorists. I repeated claims made on the KOBE site, and made it clear that they were KOBE's claims, not mine.\r\n\r\nIndymedia may not have an official policy regarding terrorism, but its individual posters sure seem to.\r\n\r\nNow please explain why the condemnation of KOBE and the defense of raisethefist is not a double standard.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:38:49","modified":"2003-05-03 16:38:49","fileurl":""},{"id":55601,"heading":"Hello?","article":"Please explain why the defense of KOBE and the condemnation of raisethefist is not a double standard.","author":"Joe Mama","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:47:11","modified":"2003-05-03 16:47:11","fileurl":""},{"id":55610,"heading":"Joe Mama","article":"If you'd bothered to read my posts instead of thinking up a funny nichname, you'd know I was neither defending KOBE nor condemning raisethefist.\r\n\r\nAs I said, and will have to apparently keep repeating, I condemn cyberterrorism whatever the source.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:56:38","modified":"2003-05-03 16:56:38","fileurl":""},{"id":64105,"heading":"Please!!! What you do is illegal, Dave.","article":"You sent pornographic pictures and messages to children. Your organization makes me sick. I believe everyone has the right to free speech, but when you start behaving like a pedophile, you need to be stopped and arrested. I would love to see you in a cell with a man named Bubba who bends you into pretzel positions every night after "Matlock". I am also glad to see that your website is no longer around for the general public to stumble on.","author":"Mom","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-10 21:59:03","modified":"2003-06-10 21:59:03","fileurl":""},{"id":64107,"heading":"Kobe is full of cyber-terrorists and pedophiles. You know it!","article":"That is why you should be shut down and charged. People logged everything your group did. Parents were outraged. Your biggest screw-up was when one of your idiots, I'm sure they couldn't help themself, wrote KOBE RULZ all over the website I am talking about........using the same IP they had used to proposition a little kid for sex. REAL SMART!!!!!","author":"Mom","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-10 22:04:27","modified":"2003-06-10 22:04:27","fileurl":""},{"id":64112,"heading":"KOBE is Kewl","article":"Yeah, they're cool. I support them because they hate Ay-Rabs.","author":"Knuckle Dragging Cop","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-10 22:23:29","modified":"2003-06-10 22:23:29","fileurl":""},{"id":64113,"heading":"Mom","article":"Thanks for your concern but it is entirely misplaced. I have nothing to do with KOBE, as I seem to have to keep repeating. Maybe someday it'll sink into your head. \r\n\r\nBut I doubt it. Mental illness can be a son-of-a-gun.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-10 22:23:54","modified":"2003-06-10 22:23:54","fileurl":""},{"id":64246,"heading":"scottie","article":"Beam me up, there ain't no white trash ho's down here.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-11 17:36:48","modified":"2003-06-11 17:36:48","fileurl":""},{"id":64256,"heading":"You KOBE freaks...","article":"...are really annoying.\r\n\r\nBut, then again, that's your purpose.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-11 20:01:05","modified":"2003-06-11 20:01:05","fileurl":""},{"id":64337,"heading":"daveman, I didnt post that.","article":"I have far too much intelligence to post one liners like that, and when I post here, I have something to say. Last I read, Those idiots think you're me anyway! They also think Im fresca, Diogenes, Sheepdog, etc. Im sure we are much less annoying than they are.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-12 04:44:20","modified":"2003-06-12 04:44:20","fileurl":""},{"id":64338,"heading":"I didn't mean any offence SBM","article":"But I did tell them days ago...\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2003\/06\/61996_comment.php#62034\r\n""Mr Sheepdog\r\nby Rational Normal Person \u2022 Tuesday June 03, 2003 10:47 PM\r\n\r\nALL of the spam posts are comming from an individual who shall remain nameless but is an associate of devoy. \r\n\r\nThe defensive of devoy posts are actually comming from Mr devoy himself. \r\n\r\nLinguistic analysis shows that real posts from Kobe SBM go on for pages and pages!!! not the imped one liners. ""\r\n\r\n","author":"Rational Normal Person","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-12 04:49:42","modified":"2013-11-11 00:23:05","fileurl":""},{"id":64521,"heading":"Get lost, pervert","article":"Mr Sheepdog\r\nby Rational Normal Person \u2022 Wednesday June 04, 2003 08:14 AM\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nMay I swallow your baby batter?\r\n\r\n","author":"anti-pervert","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-13 13:22:58","modified":"2013-11-11 00:23:05","fileurl":""},{"id":64583,"heading":"??? What happened to their website?","article":""I am also glad to see that your website is no longer around for the general public to stumble on."\r\n\r\nEXCUSE ME?\r\n\r\nTry typing "KOBE Headquarters" in any search engine you know. Better yet, try typing "kobehq". According to the world's busiest search engines, KOBEs have gone FAR beyond the "general public", you moron! I might not like some of the shit they do, but they make most of you anarchist types look like fools on a daily basis.\r\n\r\n","author":"Rooted in Reality","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-13 21:25:35","modified":"2003-06-13 21:25:35","fileurl":""},{"id":64668,"heading":"Logical Fallacy","article":""...but they make most of you anarchist types look like fools on a daily basis."\r\n\r\nUnsubstantiated Allegation. \r\n","author":"debate coach","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-14 11:14:25","modified":"2003-06-14 11:14:25","fileurl":""},{"id":64721,"heading":"I make no allegations.","article":"Simply statements of FACT. Review any of the threads where these so-called "kobe" and Stephen Devoy are involved, and the commentary is overwhelmingly in support of the "kobe". Besides that, they have a sense of humor which you anarchist types seem to lack.","author":"Rooted in Reality","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-14 16:36:06","modified":"2003-06-14 16:36:06","fileurl":""}]}

{"article":{"id":25214,"heading":"Harbor City Small Business Knowingly Hosts Anti-Muslim Website","author":"Swen Kirkov","created":"2003-01-04 06:42:40","modified":"2003-06-14 16:36:01","last_modified":"Sat, 14 Jun 2003 23:36:01","article":"

Harbor City Small Business Knowingly Hosts Anti-Muslim Website\r\n<\/p>

HARBOR CITY- In a sign of our times, a new cyber\r\nvigilante organization has taken to the Web, setting its sights on shutting down\r\nIslamic Internet forums, calling for the death of Muslims, and even suggesting\r\nthat Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, \"nigger\r\ncunt from georgia,\" be killed. \r\nThe Website KOBEHQ is hosted by Harbor City,\r\nCalifornia computer store Computers\r\nN.L.A. Dave Young\r\n(see bottom of linked page), believed to be owner of Computers\r\nN.L.A. has\r\nbeen notified of the activities of the KOBE Organization, but has not taken\r\naction to stop the Website's hate activities. Confirmation that Mr. Young\r\nhas received notification has been documented. \r\nIn an interesting sequence of events, emails sent to Dave\r\nYoung have been responded to by KOBE SBM,\r\nthe anonymous name used by the owner of the KOBEHQ website.<\/p>\r\n

One of the targets of the KOBE Organization's reign\r\nof hate and harassment, the website Break\r\nYour Chains, has documented\r\nthe activities of KOBE. Break Your Chains hosts the John\r\nPoindexter Awareness Office. The vigilante organization, KOBEHQ, has\r\nsustained a campaign of harassment against the website's owner, in a manner that\r\nprovokes memories of the COINTELPRO operations of the 60s and 70s.<\/p>\r\n

<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/html","summary":"In a sign of our times, a new cyber vigilante organization has taken to the Web, setting its sights on shutting down Islamic Internet forums...","numcomment":28,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2003\/01\/25214.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":28413,"heading":"The above article was written by a madman","article":"\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nKOBE Headquarters Fights anti<\/title>\r\n<meta name="Microsoft Border" content="l, default">\r\n<\/head>\r\n\r\n<body background="kobeback.jpg">\r\n\r\n <div align="left"><img border="0" src="kobe2.jpg" width="153" height="87"><\/div>\r\n\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n\r\n <div align="left"><b><font size="4" face="Arial" color="#0000FF">KOBE \r\n Headquarters Fights anti-American Dissident\/Terrorist groups on the \r\n Internet<\/font><\/b><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman">KOBE Headquarters opened on \r\n November 4, 2002 at <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com">\r\n http:\/\/www.kobehq.com<\/a> and has become one of the hottest new sites on \r\n the Internet. Shortly after it's inauguration, KOBE Headquarters was \r\n attacked by dissidents and organized subversive groups which have been \r\n using the Internet to spread anti-American propaganda. Before KOBE came \r\n along, they were free to roam the internet, opening message boards and \r\n websites which openly seek to destroy the Government of the United \r\n States and other countries through subversive means. Pictures of the \r\n President of the United States with the Nazi flag as it's background, \r\n inverted flags and government seals, calls to spy on and harass \r\n government officials. International figures in other democratic nations \r\n have not been immune to these activities. <\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman">KOBE feels that these \r\n groups have gone unchecked and that their anti-American efforts should \r\n not be regarded with apathy. We will actively fight them in support of \r\n our government. Your lack of concern for freedom as it exists in the \r\n free nations may one day result in losing it. AOL and a growing number \r\n of software companies which provide content blocking for children and \r\n institutions of learning have begun to block access to resources \r\n operated by these subversive groups operating freely on the Internet. \r\n Failure to monitor activities from such groups could provide a fertile \r\n ground for terrorist propaganda, and covert communications designed to \r\n undermine democracy. Active members of these groups claim that their \r\n right to free speech is denied by these actions, however, in crucial \r\n times, such measures may be justifiable (albeit arbitrary).<\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Times New Roman">WARNING: Some sections of \r\n the KOBE Headquarters website contain nudity and commentary which \r\n certain individuals may find offensive. You must be 18 or over to visit \r\n the site. <\/font><b><font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/disclaimer.htm">DISCLAIMER<\/a> <\/font><\/b>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">KOBE is not an organization, but all like \r\n thinkers are "members" of KOBE.<\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="center"><font size="4" face="Times New Roman">KOBE invites you \r\n to visit <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com">KOBE Headquarters<\/a> <\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><b>Become a part of \r\n the KOBE Action:<\/b><\/font><\/div><div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><font face="Arial">UNCENSORED KOBE forums:\r\n <\/font><font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/kobeforums\/index.php">KOBE Forum<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial"><a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/kobeforums\/index.php">s<\/a>, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/forum.asiaco.com\/kobehq2">Asiaco Forum<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.voy.com\/120108\/">Voy Forum<\/a><\/font><\/div><div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Arial">Commentary: <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/commentary.htm">KOBE HQ<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/kobesbm.htm">KOBE SBM<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/kobescott.htm">KOBE SCOTT<\/a> , \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/join.htm">Join \r\n KOBE<\/a> <\/font><\/div><div align="left">\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/publish.htm">Publish<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial"> \r\n your full length articles at KOBE<\/font><\/div><div align="left">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/mooncult.htm">\r\n <font face="Arial">Islam- The \r\n Moon Cult<\/font><\/a><font face="Arial">, , <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/noban.htm">Bush BANS the Ban<\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/rico.htm">The RICO Act<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/hatespeech.htm">Hate on the Net<\/a><\/font><font face="Arial">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/cyberlibel.htm">CyberLibel<\/a>, \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/subversive.htm">\r\n Subversive Groups<\/a>,\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/libelaw.htm">Libel Law<\/a><\/font>\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/dighatespeech.htm">\r\n Digital Hate Speech<\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Arial">Features are being added every \r\n month. Visit often!<\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div>\r\n <div align="left"><b><font face="Times New Roman">Regular Features \r\n (Please read our <\/font><font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/disclaimer.htm">DISCLAIMER<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">):<\/font><\/b><\/div>\r\n <div align="left"> <\/div><div align="left">\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Times New Roman">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/headlinenews.htm">US and World<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/scitechnews.htm">Science and Technology \r\n News<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman"> (Updated Daily)<\/font><\/div><div align="left">\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Times New Roman">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/headlinenews.htm">Sports, Late Breaking News, National News, World News<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">.<\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/members.htm">Member List<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/cray.asp">Interactive Database<\/a>, <\/font>\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF"> <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/links.htm">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">KOBE Links<\/font><\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/losers.htm">The TRULY \r\n Pathetic<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/countdown.htm">KOBE Countdowns<\/a>, <\/font>\r\n <font color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/magiclantern.htm">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">FBI Magic Lantern<\/font><\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/news.htm">KOBE News \r\n Announcements<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, KOBE Humor: <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/humorpictures.htm">Pictures<\/a>,\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/humormovies.htm">Flash Movies<\/a>, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/humorjokes.htm">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">Jokes<\/font><\/a><\/font><\/div>\r\n <div align="left">\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">The BABES of KOBE, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF">\r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/babes.htm">Gallery 1<\/a><\/font><font face="Times New Roman">, <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman" color="#FFFFFF"> \r\n <a href="http:\/\/www.kobehq.com\/Babes\/babesgallery2.htm">\r\n Gallery 2<\/a> <\/font>\r\n <font face="Times New Roman">(nudity)<\/font><\/div>\r\n\r\n<\/body>\r\n\r\n<\/html>","author":"Jorj Svensen","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/html","created":"2003-02-08 07:22:13","modified":"2003-02-08 07:22:13","fileurl":""},{"id":28442,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"...yes, the KOBE site may contain nudity and offensive commentary...but you won't find anything SUBERSIVE....\r\n\r\nFuckin' fascists!","author":"KPC","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-02-08 20:37:10","modified":"2003-02-08 20:37:10","fileurl":""},{"id":55537,"heading":"Ms.","article":"Kobe also likes to attack Middle School message boards. In the rural midwest a group of kobeites has posted lewd messages and pornographic pictures on a Middle School message board. They have engaged in lewd conversation with minors. They are not patriots or Americans.....they are terrorists and no better than Al-Queda or Hussein.","author":"Mom","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 14:17:40","modified":"2003-05-03 14:17:40","fileurl":""},{"id":55540,"heading":"It's Double Standard Days at Indymedia!","article":"You demand that the KOBE website be shut down.\r\n\r\nYet there was a great wailing and gnashing of teeth when that web hosting company dropped al Jazeera. The Indymedia collective cried "Oppression!" and moaned about al Jazeera's freedom of speech.\r\n\r\nMake up your minds.\r\n\r\n","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 14:24:00","modified":"2003-05-03 14:24:00","fileurl":""},{"id":55559,"heading":"Apples and oranges, davie boy","article":"Gee, I don't recall al-Jazeera ever engaging in any cyberterrorism. What day is it in your world, davie boy? In the REAL world, it's Friday. Care to join us in the REAL world, davie boy?","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:21:53","modified":"2003-05-03 15:21:53","fileurl":""},{"id":55562,"heading":"Cyberterrorism?","article":"Like raisethefist.com?\r\n\r\nYou guys were yelling pretty loud about their webmaster getting arrested.\r\n\r\nDouble Standard Days, indeed.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:25:43","modified":"2003-05-03 15:25:43","fileurl":""},{"id":55569,"heading":"davemoron","article":"Unsubstantiated allegation.","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:37:07","modified":"2003-05-03 15:37:07","fileurl":""},{"id":55570,"heading":"Also","article":"It's clever that you went from al-Jazeera to raisethefist.com. Very clever. NOT.","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:38:13","modified":"2003-05-03 15:38:13","fileurl":""},{"id":55575,"heading":"Deny it all you want.","article":"Double standards are alive and well and living in Indymedia.\r\n\r\nFrom the above article:\r\n"Dave Young (see bottom of linked page), believed to be owner of Computers N.L.A. has been notified of the activities of the KOBE Organization, but has not taken action to stop the Website's hate activities."\r\n\r\n"They are not patriots or Americans.....they are terrorists and no better than Al-Queda or Hussein."\r\n\r\nFrom the thread JUDGE REJECTS PLEA FOR RAISETHEFIST.COM WEBMASTERhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2002\/10\/19488_comment.php#55459\r\n\r\n"it makes me completely out raged when a young black man is promoting positive change within the world and is now in jail."\r\n\r\n"Raise The Fist is the best anarchic site. \r\nFree Sherman to continue his most important work."\r\n\r\n"I vow to keep the Reclaim guide available online with a proper disclaimer: I do condone, advocate and incite the use of violence against law enforcement authorities and political figures including the president of USA."\r\n\r\n\r\nNow: do you see the double standard? You claim KOBE is guilty of cyberterrorism, yet you rush to the defense of a man who posts bomb instructions on his website. \r\n\r\nExplain why that is not a double standard in action.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 15:56:25","modified":"2003-05-03 15:56:25","fileurl":""},{"id":55580,"heading":"daveman","article":"I know nothing about raisethefist.com's activities, legal or otherwise. I do, however, know about KOBE's illegal activities. You seem to believe that cyberterrorism is fine, as long as the people engaging in it agree with your political beliefs. It's still odd that you went from al-Jazeera to raisethefist.com. Odd, indeed.","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:06:51","modified":"2003-05-03 16:06:51","fileurl":""},{"id":55594,"heading":"It's not odd at all.","article":"And I'll explain why.\r\n\r\nThe author of the above article wants KOBE shut down for cyberterrorism.\r\n\r\nIndymedia decries the arrest of raisethefists's webmaster, who has been charged with cyberterrorism.\r\n\r\nIndymedia decried al Jazeera being dropped by their American web host. \r\n\r\nThe link tying all these together? The pro-Islamic bias of Indymedia. If an action is performed by Muslims, it is lauded. If the same action is performed by non-Muslims, it is condemned.\r\n\r\nAl Jazeera lost their American host. This was "bad" because the pro-Arab view was perceived to have been lost to America, and there were cries of "oppression!" with governmental involvement suggested.\r\n\r\nKOBE claims to be opposed to violent Islamization in specific and Islam in general, yet does not advocate violence except in self-defense. Indymedia apparently wants KOBE shut down, ostensibly because of "cyberterrorism", but let's be honest: it's because KOBE is anti-Islam.\r\n\r\nRaisethefist.com's webmaster pled guilty to the felony charge of "18 U.S.C. 842 (p)(2)(A): DISTRIBUTION OF INFORMATION RELATING TO EXPLOSIVES, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION WITH THE INTENT THAT SUCH INFORMATION BE USED IN FURTHERANCE OF A FEDERAL CRIME OF VIOLENCE." \r\n\r\nFace it: Indymedia loves terrorists, be they anarchists or Islamists. \r\n\r\nI condemn cyberterrorism from any source. Indymedia does not, and the call for the shutdown of KOBE while raisethefist's webmaster is defended is proof.\r\n\r\nLike I said, double standards.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:26:58","modified":"2003-05-03 16:26:58","fileurl":""},{"id":55597,"heading":"daveman-+","article":"I wasn't aware that Indymedia had an official policy regarding cyberterrorism. Whether you choose to believe it or not, the members of KOBE are cyberterrorists. I guess that's okay with you since they're on your side of the political spectrum.","author":"Mr. McFeely","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:32:25","modified":"2003-05-03 16:32:25","fileurl":""},{"id":55598,"heading":"What part of...","article":"..."I condemn cyberterrorism from any source." is giving you trouble?\r\n\r\nI never claimed KOBE were not cyberterrorists. I repeated claims made on the KOBE site, and made it clear that they were KOBE's claims, not mine.\r\n\r\nIndymedia may not have an official policy regarding terrorism, but its individual posters sure seem to.\r\n\r\nNow please explain why the condemnation of KOBE and the defense of raisethefist is not a double standard.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:38:49","modified":"2003-05-03 16:38:49","fileurl":""},{"id":55601,"heading":"Hello?","article":"Please explain why the defense of KOBE and the condemnation of raisethefist is not a double standard.","author":"Joe Mama","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:47:11","modified":"2003-05-03 16:47:11","fileurl":""},{"id":55610,"heading":"Joe Mama","article":"If you'd bothered to read my posts instead of thinking up a funny nichname, you'd know I was neither defending KOBE nor condemning raisethefist.\r\n\r\nAs I said, and will have to apparently keep repeating, I condemn cyberterrorism whatever the source.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-05-03 16:56:38","modified":"2003-05-03 16:56:38","fileurl":""},{"id":64105,"heading":"Please!!! What you do is illegal, Dave.","article":"You sent pornographic pictures and messages to children. Your organization makes me sick. I believe everyone has the right to free speech, but when you start behaving like a pedophile, you need to be stopped and arrested. I would love to see you in a cell with a man named Bubba who bends you into pretzel positions every night after "Matlock". I am also glad to see that your website is no longer around for the general public to stumble on.","author":"Mom","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-10 21:59:03","modified":"2003-06-10 21:59:03","fileurl":""},{"id":64107,"heading":"Kobe is full of cyber-terrorists and pedophiles. You know it!","article":"That is why you should be shut down and charged. People logged everything your group did. Parents were outraged. Your biggest screw-up was when one of your idiots, I'm sure they couldn't help themself, wrote KOBE RULZ all over the website I am talking about........using the same IP they had used to proposition a little kid for sex. REAL SMART!!!!!","author":"Mom","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-10 22:04:27","modified":"2003-06-10 22:04:27","fileurl":""},{"id":64112,"heading":"KOBE is Kewl","article":"Yeah, they're cool. I support them because they hate Ay-Rabs.","author":"Knuckle Dragging Cop","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-10 22:23:29","modified":"2003-06-10 22:23:29","fileurl":""},{"id":64113,"heading":"Mom","article":"Thanks for your concern but it is entirely misplaced. I have nothing to do with KOBE, as I seem to have to keep repeating. Maybe someday it'll sink into your head. \r\n\r\nBut I doubt it. Mental illness can be a son-of-a-gun.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-10 22:23:54","modified":"2003-06-10 22:23:54","fileurl":""},{"id":64246,"heading":"scottie","article":"Beam me up, there ain't no white trash ho's down here.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-11 17:36:48","modified":"2003-06-11 17:36:48","fileurl":""},{"id":64256,"heading":"You KOBE freaks...","article":"...are really annoying.\r\n\r\nBut, then again, that's your purpose.","author":"daveman","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-11 20:01:05","modified":"2003-06-11 20:01:05","fileurl":""},{"id":64337,"heading":"daveman, I didnt post that.","article":"I have far too much intelligence to post one liners like that, and when I post here, I have something to say. Last I read, Those idiots think you're me anyway! They also think Im fresca, Diogenes, Sheepdog, etc. Im sure we are much less annoying than they are.","author":"KOBE SBM","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-12 04:44:20","modified":"2003-06-12 04:44:20","fileurl":""},{"id":64338,"heading":"I didn't mean any offence SBM","article":"But I did tell them days ago...\r\nhttp:\/\/la.indymedia.org\/news\/2003\/06\/61996_comment.php#62034\r\n""Mr Sheepdog\r\nby Rational Normal Person \u2022 Tuesday June 03, 2003 10:47 PM\r\n\r\nALL of the spam posts are comming from an individual who shall remain nameless but is an associate of devoy. \r\n\r\nThe defensive of devoy posts are actually comming from Mr devoy himself. \r\n\r\nLinguistic analysis shows that real posts from Kobe SBM go on for pages and pages!!! not the imped one liners. ""\r\n\r\n","author":"Rational Normal Person","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-12 04:49:42","modified":"2013-11-11 00:23:05","fileurl":""},{"id":64521,"heading":"Get lost, pervert","article":"Mr Sheepdog\r\nby Rational Normal Person \u2022 Wednesday June 04, 2003 08:14 AM\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nMay I swallow your baby batter?\r\n\r\n","author":"anti-pervert","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-13 13:22:58","modified":"2013-11-11 00:23:05","fileurl":""},{"id":64583,"heading":"??? What happened to their website?","article":""I am also glad to see that your website is no longer around for the general public to stumble on."\r\n\r\nEXCUSE ME?\r\n\r\nTry typing "KOBE Headquarters" in any search engine you know. Better yet, try typing "kobehq". According to the world's busiest search engines, KOBEs have gone FAR beyond the "general public", you moron! I might not like some of the shit they do, but they make most of you anarchist types look like fools on a daily basis.\r\n\r\n","author":"Rooted in Reality","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-13 21:25:35","modified":"2003-06-13 21:25:35","fileurl":""},{"id":64668,"heading":"Logical Fallacy","article":""...but they make most of you anarchist types look like fools on a daily basis."\r\n\r\nUnsubstantiated Allegation. \r\n","author":"debate coach","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-14 11:14:25","modified":"2003-06-14 11:14:25","fileurl":""},{"id":64721,"heading":"I make no allegations.","article":"Simply statements of FACT. Review any of the threads where these so-called "kobe" and Stephen Devoy are involved, and the commentary is overwhelmingly in support of the "kobe". Besides that, they have a sense of humor which you anarchist types seem to lack.","author":"Rooted in Reality","parent_id":25214,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-06-14 16:36:06","modified":"2003-06-14 16:36:06","fileurl":""}]}