{"article":{"id":18095,"heading":"Push polling for the Bush admin on MSNBC.com","author":"welfare\/education advocate","created":"2002-08-01 15:43:39","modified":"2006-05-12 17:40:29","last_modified":"Sat, 13 May 2006 00:40:29","article":"

Today's \"question of the day\" at MSNBC.com is \"SHOULD WELFARE RECIPIENTS BE ALLOWED TO GO TO COLLEGE INSTEAD OF WORKING?\" The way the question is worded seems designed to ensure that they'll get more responses supporting the Bush administration (\"no\" votes) and fewer votes supporting the idea of helping people on welfare learn enough that they can earn enough to get off welfare:

http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/news\/778726.asp?0cm=c10<\/a>

Although I hate these polls and think they're pretty useless, I went ahead and voted. I also sent a message to MSNBC.com (question@msnbc.com<\/a>) about how slanted the wording is. Here's the message I sent:

\"Research over many years demonstrates that more education leads to better paying jobs. Recent studies of the 2000 census show that this has become more true in recent years. Therefore, if we allow welfare recipients to go to college, we increase the likelihood that they will earn enough to get off and stay off welfare in the long run.



\"Unfortunately, the way you've worded your question is misleading. Some people might assume from the way it's worded that welfare rules allow people on welfare to go to college indefinitely as a way of putting off work. That's not the case at all. Current welfare rules allow some college to count toward work requirements, but under very strict limitations. Because of the way you've worded this question, you've guaranteed that you'll see more \"no\" votes than \"yes\" votes. I am certain that if your question explained the existing rules better, more people would vote \"yes\" than will to the question you have posed.\"

Please feel free to vote, and to tell MSNBC to stop this kind of push-polling. It's either sleazy or incompetent, and either is inexcusable. <\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/www.msnbc.com\/news\/778726.asp?0cm=c10","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"MSNBC has a poll up today that seems designed to ensure that they'll get more votes for Bush's position on welfare. I hate these online polls, but I voted on this one and sent a message to MSNBC about the horribly slanted wording. I'd encourage other people to do the same. ","numcomment":86,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2002\/08\/18095.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":110341,"heading":"POOR COLLEGE STUDENTS ALL WORK","article":" The question was unfairly loaded against poor studen't even exist the option of going to college and not working for ALL poor students. Your question is more biasing propaganda than inquiry.","author":"David Minton Silva","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2004-05-16 13:19:53","modified":"2004-05-16 13:19:53","fileurl":""},{"id":156858,"heading":"Somebody","article":"For Mrs..Amen .on the Hell NO","author":"PO Page","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-05-11 11:01:54","modified":"2006-05-11 11:01:54","fileurl":""},{"id":156970,"heading":"Satan say vote for his son (Bush)","article":"Satan: "I voted yes to my Son George W. Bush. You don't need that Hippie Jesus or that Slimy Koran. You need the Devil's Pitchfork. Screw the New Testament. Screw the Koran. Screw the Word of God. It's time to End the World. I cast my vote for Bush."","author":"Satan","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2006-05-12 17:40:29","modified":"2006-05-12 17:40:29","fileurl":""},{"id":18644,"heading":"Joe From New Jersey","article":"Yes, because Congress represents the people and therefore congress should be heard. They have to debate the issue and take a stand. At this point in time, Congress would support the president in any action to overthrow Saddam Hussein. The Saddam regime has to be replaced by a democratic government. The allies would then join The U.S. in occupying Iraq and assist in setting up a democratic government. It would also mean investing in a new economy, which would strengthen the hand of the new government","author":"Joe","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-08-27 13:56:29","modified":"2002-08-27 13:56:29","fileurl":""},{"id":18700,"heading":"Retired","article":"Unfortunately, I was unble to attend College, due to being a low income family. However I worked and earned a respectable living without having tax payers support. Why should I, now pay someone else's College tuition, so they can get a better job than I had? Isn't Government housing, Medical, and food stamps enough? There is nothing wrong with starting with a minimum wage job and working up with time. The problem, now day's is everyone thinks they should should start with an Executive position instead of a job. ","author":"DON","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-08-28 16:33:50","modified":"2002-08-28 16:33:50","fileurl":""},{"id":18817,"heading":"welfare-college tution","article":"when will our people get back to taking responsibility for their own welfare----most of the kids i went to college -with worked there way through. had jobs in summer and worked part time jobs during the school year. alot of them had parents that had the money to carry them full load , but instead let their kids have some responsibility for getting their education and taught them that with hard work and some sacifice still is the best way to success. now days we have to many people wanting the government to take the responsibliity for their well being rather than getting out there and working. ","author":"howard tippett","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-04 13:35:29","modified":"2002-09-04 13:35:29","fileurl":""},{"id":18867,"heading":"Rick","article":"Let's take care of business, remove Saddam Hussein.\r\nDon't forget 9\/11 American's jumping off the towers. Never forget. He must go.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nRick (NJ)","author":"Rick Costigan","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-07 11:54:27","modified":"2002-09-07 11:54:27","fileurl":""},{"id":18868,"heading":"Cnadian Citizen","article":"Re: should US go alone to take out Husain? Absolutely!!!! All those gut-less leaders, who seem to behaive like those before the II WW, iritate me.\r\n\r\nThere is no option. This mad man will not stop and start to behaive!!!\r\n\r\nThanks.","author":"Milan Hajzler","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-07 13:26:08","modified":"2002-09-07 13:26:08","fileurl":""},{"id":18878,"heading":"lousi resident","article":"I think they should took Hussain out along time ago and if any way possible they need to do and get it over with and everyone would be alot better off!!!!!!!\r\nThe sooner the Better!!!!!!","author":"JAne Black","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-08 09:24:50","modified":"2002-09-08 09:24:50","fileurl":""},{"id":18879,"heading":"Charlie Moshenek","article":"The UN failed on the first slow go round on the inspections of Husains war machines ,the only inspection we need now is the an inspection after destroying everything that could possible be use agains other nations as well as the United States.\r\n\r\nWe need to think straight ,who are we fooling ?,playing with each other mines.? It is time to get with the program of getting Husain out and destroying all of his war macnines. US forces, move when you are ready ,uncontrolled by the Congress or the UN.","author":"Charlie Moshenek","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-08 11:18:23","modified":"2002-09-08 11:18:23","fileurl":""},{"id":18915,"heading":"MR","article":"WE CANT STOP A PERSON WILLING TO DIE FROM DOING ANYTHING,WE MUST STOP THESE PEOPLE IN WASH.DC FROM TAKING ANY MORE RIGHTS,THEY CANT DO ANY BETTER 1 YEAR LATER THAN TELL US WE ARE AT A ORANGE STATE OF EMERGENCY.....IF BIN LADEN MAKES AN APPEARENCE 9\/11,IT WOULD DO MORE DAMAGE THAN A OMBING......AS FAR AS IRAQ,BUSH ALWAYS SAID HE WAS GOING IN,THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT WEAPONS IS AN EXCUSE,THERES 12 COUNTRIES OUT THERE WHO HATE US THAT ALREADY HAVE OR ARE NEAR HAVING THESE WEAPONS,ARE WE GOING TO HIT THEM TOO.ARE YOU READY FOR A MILLION NEW PEOPLE WANTING TO KILL US,THERES GOT TO BE ANOTHER WAY.....","author":"ROBERT DEININGER","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-11 13:21:48","modified":"2002-09-11 13:21:48","fileurl":""},{"id":18928,"heading":"War on Iraq","article":"There are some complaints in the U.S. about our government letting 9\/11 take place as well as us planning for war. First on 9\/11: The U.S. Constitution gives the government one main purpose and that's to protect us against attack. Yet everyone i.e. liberals wants us to cut military spending and fund every other Entitlement program (not covered in the Constitution). I say choose one or the other, I'm too taxed out to pay for all of it. Secondly, we say to the military, protect us BUT don't ever attack any nation until thousands of Americans are dead in the street and then if you do don't let one non military person in the opposing country get hert under any circumstances. Back to Iraq, they signed a treaty back in 1991. The U.N. i.e. socialist made resolutions and demands. Many of those demands have not been meet even once in those 11 years. Plus 4 years ago Clinton warned Iraq to let inspectors in per our agreement or else. After a couple of months, the inspectors were kicked out AGAIN and have not returned in 4 years. If anyone can show me any other possible hostile country, which made a similar agreement as Iraq, which has not meet the UN resolutions, like Iraq, and I will tell Bush to take them out too, if it keeps thousands (or millions in a nuclear attack) of high-tax paying Americans alive and well to fund those leftist entitlement programs all those liberals want. ","author":"Chris Smith","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-11 20:32:59","modified":"2002-09-11 20:32:59","fileurl":""},{"id":19006,"heading":"ms","article":"I was under the impression that your question was whether or not I support Bush's Iranian stance. My answer was NO. My question is: Considering that George W. managed to evade any military INVOLVEMENT and failed to complete his military obligaton, will he sacrifice the Bush daughters, nephews, nieces, et al., along with thousands of American young people to a mideast "threat?"","author":"mj hughes","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 12:59:32","modified":"2002-09-13 12:59:32","fileurl":""},{"id":19007,"heading":"American Patriot","article":"Brilliant speech President Bush !!!!.....the UN must now "fish or cut bait "...enough rhetoric , it is TIME to get the " Buther of Baghdad " out of power !!!","author":"Rene Couture","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 13:01:04","modified":"2002-09-13 13:01:04","fileurl":""},{"id":19008,"heading":"American Patriot","article":"Brilliant speech this morning , Mr. President!! The UN and Sadaam must now fish or cut bait ! No more rhetoric ....it is time to get the " Butcher of Bahgdad "","author":"Rene Couture","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 13:06:40","modified":"2002-09-13 13:06:40","fileurl":""},{"id":19009,"heading":"ret.","article":"I am a democrat and I support the President 100% of what\r\nhe is doing ,and what he is trying to do.We should kill our enemy before they kill us.I urge the democrats to support the\r\nPesident 100%.","author":"joseph.weisel","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 14:15:19","modified":"2002-09-13 14:15:19","fileurl":""},{"id":19016,"heading":"Citizen. U.S.A.","article":"I think we people in the U.S. should protect our nation against any forign country that is a threat to our way of life we have had to do this in the past fredom is expencive and the U.S.A. is the lan of the free so " Let's Do IT'.","author":"John P. Hansen","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 17:24:06","modified":"2002-09-13 17:24:06","fileurl":""},{"id":19017,"heading":"Citizen. U.S.A.","article":"I think we people in the U.S. should protect our nation against any forign country that is a threat to our way of life we have had to do this in the past freedom is expencive and the U.S.A. is the land of the free so " Let's Do IT'.","author":"John P. Hansen","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 17:29:36","modified":"2002-09-13 17:29:36","fileurl":""},{"id":19018,"heading":"containment","article":"Containment of Irag If we can contain Russia I sure there is no need to send young americans to die their for special interest.","author":"Bill Reed","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 17:37:58","modified":"2002-09-13 17:37:58","fileurl":""},{"id":19019,"heading":"war on iraq","article":"The war with Iraq is important to the stability of the western world, this man saddam is a dictator with a thug mentality. His only concern is for his own agenda and his murderous and selfish delusional vision as the unifyer of the Arab world who's ultimate task is to rid the world of Israel & the evil empire I.e. the USA. and all who stand for freedom and a way of life more in line with the 20th century. And he believes that this is his mission as mandated by his God and the God of the moslem people not be confused with our god. He's not new to world the old testiment delt with him and his kind over 2000 years ago, and this is just the begining with this part of the world. Were in for a bumpy ride,but our god will prevail in the end,of that I am certain.","author":"Alan from Ca","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 18:31:05","modified":"2002-09-13 18:31:05","fileurl":""},{"id":19020,"heading":"Real Estate Broker","article":"SADAAN HUSSEIN MUST BE STOPPED NOW. TO\r\nAPPEASE THIS MAD MAN WILL JUST DELAY THE\r\nINEVITABLE. WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH HIM\r\nMILITARILY NOW OR IN THE FUTURE. WAITING WILL\r\nJUST COST MORE AMERICAN AND COALITION CASUALTIES. I AM SHOCKED BY AMERICAN COWARDS UNWILLING TO DEAL WITH THIS MURDERER OF HIS OWN PEOPLE AND MANY OTHERS.","author":"Arthur J. Reinitz","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 18:37:50","modified":"2002-09-13 18:37:50","fileurl":""},{"id":19022,"heading":"Mr,&Mrs.","article":".After watching all television all day yesterday,we feel like it has really hit home, We think that the Congress and the world should take heed,and that we cannot stand by and do nothing. Listen to Bush, he is a very smart man and one of the best Presidents to come down the pike.","author":"Bill Brown","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 19:47:06","modified":"2002-09-13 19:47:06","fileurl":""},{"id":19024,"heading":"bush's Proposal","article":"So damn in sane is what we should be calling Sudam Hussien, He is crazy to think that he will get away with what he is trying to pull. Just because Clinton was to busy running around with all of his women to worry about world affairs does not mean that Bush will sit on the side lines and let the USA be humiliated and ridicluled by the devience of Irag. We as a nation should support Bush's desicion to disarm Iraq. What if we wait like we did for the terrorist to attack on 9-11 what devestation will iraq bring to us. We know they have nuclear bombs and other weapons of mass destruction. Should we wait until we are targeted again and lose many more innocent victims. \r\nTO those of you who do not support Bush's wishes ask your self this "Where will you be when Sudam attacks the US with his weapon of mass destructin and where will your children be?!!!!!!!\r\n\r\nGod Bless us all we are going to need it !!!!!!!!","author":"tina","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-13 21:29:04","modified":"2002-09-13 21:29:04","fileurl":""},{"id":19062,"heading":"Dr.","article":"Bush will drag us all into a war for personal reasons and political interests. I am not convinced that we must take this course of action. I am disapointed that neither the U.S. poitical establishment nor the world leaders are willing to stand up to Bush's insane plans. Let not the 9-11 interest blind us from doing what is right.","author":"Conrado L. G\u00f3mez","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-14 19:11:03","modified":"2026-10-25 17:02:53","fileurl":""},{"id":19063,"heading":"Politics as usual","article":"Bush will drag us all into a war for personal reasons and political interests. I am not convinced that we must take this course of action. I am disapointed that neither the U.S. poitical establishment nor the world leaders are willing to stand up to Bush's insane plans. Let not the 9-11 interest blind us from doing what is right.","author":"Conrado L. G\u00f3mez","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-14 19:12:14","modified":"2026-10-25 17:02:53","fileurl":""},{"id":19070,"heading":"Mr.","article":"\r\nWith all due respect to everyone's opinion as to wether or not we should attack Iraq,I feel this way about it. The people of our country are notorious for closing the barn door after the horse is gone,and this "Iraq" thing is no different.\r\n Why not wait to see if he kills anyone and how many.At that point,leave it up to the American people if they feel enough people have been killed as to wether or not we attack Iraq.Of course it will depend on where it is these people are killed if indeed they are!\r\n The American people always wait until something happens before reacting which is not a good trait to have as it shows other countries we have become"too civalized and too couch potatoed!" "Wake up America!!"","author":"Fred","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-15 11:10:39","modified":"2002-09-15 11:10:39","fileurl":""},{"id":19170,"heading":"war on iraq","article":"i think that our president is in a better position to know all the facts about iraq than we are.i think that all christian people should pray for him that he might have wisdom to know what to do.he has to have the weight of the world on his shoulders.if he waits until sadam strikes he'll be condemed and if he strikes first and our men are killed he'll be condemed.may God help him know what to do. \r\n "he beareth not the sword in vain" Rom. 13--4","author":"gerald in ms.","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-18 18:47:55","modified":"2002-09-18 18:47:55","fileurl":""},{"id":19210,"heading":"Retired","article":"We should not declare war on Iraq, unless Pres. Bush and all those who think we should, would be in the front lines instead of our young people. ","author":"Richard Newman","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-20 11:16:19","modified":"2002-09-20 11:16:19","fileurl":""},{"id":19215,"heading":"Mrs","article":"I am trying to reach the two talking heads who precede Buchanan and Press whom I watch every day! But i couldn't get through. The question was should Congress give bush a blank check to go to war against Iraq. I not only say no , i say hell no! this man has been given far too much support already in all of his endeavors which is making the world a far more dangerous place .","author":"Gertrude Treadway","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-20 15:07:08","modified":"2002-09-20 15:07:08","fileurl":""},{"id":19217,"heading":"Bush's Resolution","article":"No, Congress should not accept the Resolution presented by Bush regarding war with Iraq. Why should we trade our American flag for "Gold Star" flags to be hung in the windows of Mothers, wives, etc. to honor their loved ones killed in an unnecessary war. Since when did we make demands on the United Nations? Bunny","author":"Marilyn Gregory","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-20 15:59:53","modified":"2002-09-20 15:59:53","fileurl":""},{"id":19222,"heading":"Mr.","article":"I feel that our elected representatives should support President Bush and stop strutting around like rosters in a barn yard acting like no idea is any good unless they had it first. They must remember that we "the people are depending on the to get some backbone and stand up to the enemies of America.\r\n\r\nI fully support President Bush and his goal to get a leadership change in Iraq.\r\n\r\nSincerely , James L. Brown","author":"James L. Brown","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-20 18:04:14","modified":"2002-09-20 18:04:14","fileurl":""},{"id":19225,"heading":"War on Iraq","article":"No we shoukd not help Bush fill his obligation to Texas oil billionairs they spent gobs of money getting him into the white house now he must produce.","author":"Leonard E.Blize","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-20 18:25:05","modified":"2002-09-20 18:25:05","fileurl":""},{"id":19226,"heading":"Mr.","article":"\r\nI fully support our President. It makes me angry, that the Democrats are playing politics with the issue. They said he was a threat during the Clinton administration. \r\nDaschel is making a fool of himself. I am tired of the media spin reporting the issue. The people support this action. Your news dept. should start reporting the truth. Instead of twisting the details to fit your political agenda. Your job is to report the news from both sides. Not trying to manipulate the people, to your views. Russia and China both have financial resons for not getting on board with what the UN resolutions, that were set down years ago. Nobody cares what Hillery Clinton has to say about anything. She has no business discusing the issue. Find someone in the congress who has some experience. Isreal is not sending suicide bombers into public places and murdering innocents. They keep forgiving and trying to make peace. Yet the Palistinians keep blowing the chance. \r\n\r\n","author":"Randy Poloni","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-20 18:49:59","modified":"2002-09-20 18:49:59","fileurl":""},{"id":19233,"heading":"Lt. Col Usaf (ret)","article":"Bring our troops home, not in body bag. Send the CIA orver to get Saddam and bin Laden. Gen Tommy Franks failed. All our troops will be veterans and going to the VA Hospitals. The condition of The VA Hospitals are bad with halls vacant almost. The Doctors can't speak American so we can understand them. They don't understand us. They gave me the wrong medicine and it almost killed me. The CDC saved my life. I'm 100% disabled , house bound, can't walk, hearth trouble you name it. I make $243.00 Monthly.","author":"Donald Pearson","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-21 12:46:21","modified":"2002-09-21 12:46:21","fileurl":""},{"id":19242,"heading":"Mr","article":"Mr Bush has not given us any real basis of an existing danger to the US which is enough to have any American Soldier give up his life. There should be no attack at this time. Let's give a full, truly honest search of the country before we go forward.","author":"Joseph E Rusz","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-21 18:10:02","modified":"2002-09-21 18:10:02","fileurl":""},{"id":19243,"heading":"Pre-emptive Strike","article":"What is all the talk about a preemptive strike? The terrorist struck first. In the President's address to the nation he stated, "I make no distinction between the terrorist and those that sponsor them."\r\nSaddam Heusein is clearly both a terrorist and a supporter of terrorists'. So, how would stiking Heusein be a pre-emptive strike?","author":"Lon Scott Chaney","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-21 18:11:55","modified":"2002-09-21 18:11:55","fileurl":""},{"id":19244,"heading":"Len, you are confusing terms.","article":"There has never been any proof linking Sadaam to Al Queda.\r\n\r\nThere has never been any proof provided linking him to terrorists.\r\n\r\nSaddam has never attacked us.\r\n\r\nWe have actually supported him in the past. \r\n\r\nThe world is made of made of different players with different motivations. Look into it and you may see things a little differently.\r\n\r\nThats why its called pre-emptive. We have no justification but fear and greed and the will to kill people.","author":"right","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-21 18:36:05","modified":"2002-09-21 18:36:05","fileurl":""},{"id":19266,"heading":"Iraq","article":"\r\n I feel we should leave Iraq alone.After all,none of his missles can reach here.If he decides to wipe out people in his own region,who cares!!!\r\n Let the American people decide what to do. Have a nation wide poll.In that poll put up a bunch of numbers that will indicate "people killed". Let the American people pick a number and when that number reaches the sufficent amount,then go after Iraq.So,until that time",let sleeping dogs lay !"","author":"Fred","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-23 10:58:40","modified":"2002-09-23 10:58:40","fileurl":""},{"id":19270,"heading":"Insane Asama Bin Laden","article":"Of course Osama sponsors and trains terrorist,should have been taken from power when invaded Kuwait, it was actually done, but not followed upon. Now then countries that are in United Nations not wanting to invade are ones making retributions from Iraq's cash flow, Russia and China should not be brought in after that Iraq has been decared war upon by the United States, which they will want in on for spoils of the war. The United States "Should" overthrow Osama, invade and hold Osama quilty of killing his own. If Osama is killed in war, not give to another dictator, but take over the country and all Iraq's oil resources, when a war is won that country with all ther resources belongs to the countries involved, not be given back to Iraqi people until complete control is as like thinking of countries involved that defeated them. ","author":"A. M. Tucker Jr.","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-23 13:39:57","modified":"2002-09-23 13:39:57","fileurl":""},{"id":19291,"heading":"Insane GW Bush","article":"Of course the US sponsors and trains terrorist, should have been taken from power when invaded Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, etc. Now the countries that are in United Nations not wanting to invade are ones making retributions from the US cash flow, Russia and China should not be brought in after the US has been declared war upon by the Third World, which they will want in on for spoils of the war. The Third World "Should" overthrow Bush, invade and hold Bush guilty of killing their own. If Bush is killed in war, not give to another dictator, but take over the country and all the US's oil resources, when a war is won that country with all the resources belongs to the countries involved, not be given back to the US people until complete control is as like thinking of countries involved that defeated them. \r\n\r\n","author":"A.W. Fucker, Jr","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-24 15:42:24","modified":"2002-09-24 15:42:24","fileurl":""},{"id":19352,"heading":"Democrats need Headlines","article":"The democrats will say and do anything to bush to win the next election.They just will not get the point that we are no longer operating in a U.S economy,We're in a global economy.Iraq needs to be dealt with before we see another 9,11.","author":"John Barbour","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-27 13:31:53","modified":"2002-09-27 13:31:53","fileurl":""},{"id":19399,"heading":"Mr.","article":"If most think as I do about most, or any 'NEWS MEDIA' in the good ol' U.S OF A, we would all believe that they all put a 'spin' on every peice of news ever reported.\r\nWhy? Money!\r\nMost news reporters from A to z would not have a job tomorrow if they didn't 'report right!\r\nTruth is an option today that they do not have!\r\nSad isn't it!\r\nPROPAGANDA STATIONS U. S. A\r\n\r\nBob","author":"Bob Gray Smith","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-29 06:58:58","modified":"2002-09-29 06:58:58","fileurl":""},{"id":19400,"heading":"YES! ANOTHER WAY!!!!","article":"Yes!Yes!Yes!\r\nThere has to be another way. The World has practiced War for thousands of years. What has it done for society?\r\nIt has made many wealty, made the economy grow, given people jobs, and oh I forgot to mention, it has made widows and orphans, sent bodies home to weeping families, and caused a man's children to grow up in a fatherless home!\r\nOnce upon a time there was this 'WHITE HOUSE ON THE 'hill'!\r\nYou catch my drift!\r\nBob","author":"Bob Gray Smith","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-29 07:15:36","modified":"2002-09-29 07:15:36","fileurl":""},{"id":19403,"heading":"war on ariq","article":"some one should stop Bush ,I DONT HAVE ANY FATH IN ARE GOVERMENT ANY MORE ALL THE PRES .DOSE IS TALK ABOUT WAR AND FUND RAISERS ","author":"wanda","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-29 12:30:56","modified":"2002-09-29 12:30:56","fileurl":""},{"id":19425,"heading":"War on Iraq","article":"On this day we read an address by Ted Kennedy, 9-29-02. What a difference from his brother's address to the nation some time ago by John Kennedy.\r\nWhy should the nation pay attention to a man who left a girl he was with in the creek to die and then hid out.\r\n9-11-01, the Cole, embassies around the world and on and on. Isn't it nice Saddam is sending money to the families in Palestine for their children to blow themselves up? \r\nSenator Daschle's blow-up was desperate and embarrassing and inaccurate. He should apologize.","author":"L & R Lucas","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-30 12:38:05","modified":"2002-09-30 12:38:05","fileurl":""},{"id":19435,"heading":"Nurse (BSN, MS)","article":"I can't believe that our government is doing very badly.\r\nI respect Mr. Bush as our Pres. but not his ideas. When the Senate question his plans, Bush response is loyalty and security of our country but that is out of the question.Our economy is going down fast and cutting the budget of health care like medicare,public aid and the veterans. I'm proud of the one who opposed in the Senate, who is thinking about the good of our nation. Loyalty we all have but the security of our Jobs and economy is going down hill. Solve one problem at a time. Find Bin Ladden and hunt him down first before we go to another problem. Even the world does'nt want to support the Pres. decision. You sometimes wonder if it's personal because his Dad have'nt finished the Job. Even the German people calls our President\r\n the second Hitler because he does'nt listen to reasoning. We can't do anything but pray for guidance that he eventually make a right decision.....this time!","author":"Brian","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-09-30 20:21:20","modified":"2002-09-30 20:21:20","fileurl":""},{"id":19529,"heading":"Retired from City of San Francisco","article":"If you have ever lived in Rattlesnake country,you know\r\nif you dont get them before they bite you, you have made a very high price.Saddam is worse than a rattle-snake.A bullet is what he needs.\r\nGeorge Moon,Oceanside, Ca.","author":"George Moon","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-03 10:37:40","modified":"2002-10-03 10:37:40","fileurl":""},{"id":19532,"heading":"Least we forget, have we already!","article":"I am disguested to listen to representatives of this country using the media to play into the idealogy of our enemy. Officials like McDermott, Harken, Daschle should be held accountable and owe the President an apology. Sit them in a theater and replay the tapes of victims jumping out of the Towers. How could they put themselves above the security of the U.S. Throw them out!","author":"Angela","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-03 12:14:41","modified":"2002-10-03 12:14:41","fileurl":""},{"id":19813,"heading":"Retired electronic Eng.","article":"Dear Friends, I feel that president Bush has proved his honor,and integrety many times I have a son in the Pursian Gulf, and he feels that we must stand behind our prssident 100%. Thanks for letting me express my thoughts. Yours Ron S. Sr.","author":"Ronald C. Savage","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-09 17:37:15","modified":"2002-10-09 17:37:15","fileurl":""},{"id":19902,"heading":"war in Iraw","article":"We should be more concerned with the sniper attacks in Md. and Va. (right under the capitol's nose) and try to solve this instead of trying to impose our will on another country. We have never been known as the aggressor; always the defender. Hitler, too, thought his way of dictatorship was the best for the entire world and here we are assuming that what is right for our country is also right for all others -- no difference, just imposing our way of life on others. If we want to defend human rights of the Iraq people, then why are we not going to Africa to alleviate their suffering. No oil in Africa. I believe our country has to first try all means of resolving this situation in Iraq through the United Nations before any military action is taken. It seems everytime some standards are set to be met, then the President adds some more, that are very unrealistic, which he knows cannot be met, knowing that Iraq will refuse his ultimatums. Saddam is capable of what he is accused but cool heads should prevail and give the process time to succeed with war being the very last alternative. \r\n\r\nSen. Byrd is to be congratulated. He is the only one, from both parties, who realizes what the end result could be, not only for our nation, but for the world.\r\nWe talk of saving lives by this action but in reality we could be endangering the lives of thousands of American boys if they go into Bagdah to overthrow the regime, not to mention the number of innocent people in Iraq who will die.","author":"Esther Kovach","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-11 10:47:29","modified":"2002-10-11 10:47:29","fileurl":""},{"id":19957,"heading":"P-E-R-S-I-A-N","article":"please learn how to spell PERSIAN, and while we are at it, why dont you open up a book sometime, Iraq is not some desert wasteland like Afghanistan, we are planning a full scale invasion of a relatively developed urban nation, meaning lots of death, and i dont care what BUSH says, hes just another one of history's leaders with "high aspirations", that doesnt make his word gold, History books are useful sometimes, here are a few examples: Ghengis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, Mao - these are just a few that come to mind.","author":"L","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-12 04:45:38","modified":"2002-10-12 04:45:38","fileurl":""},{"id":20034,"heading":"War with Iraq","article":"It is with a heavy heart that I watch my government pushing this war mentality.I want to pass along this quote and hope citizens will use reason and not emotion. They should remember what happened to Rome.\r\nA little wisdom:\r\n"Beware of the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor,for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind...\r\nAnd when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, and gladly so.\r\nHow do I know? For this is what I have done.\r\nAnd I am Caesar.\r\n\r\n----William Shakespeare","author":"Worried in Wisconsin","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-15 10:42:45","modified":"2002-10-15 10:42:45","fileurl":""},{"id":20181,"heading":"U.S.M.C. veteran","article":"I just wached President Bush's speech and the signing of the bill ,to give him the power to go to war.\r\nHe appeared as happy as a kid at Christmas who just\r\nunwrapped his "red ryder b.b. gun".\r\nI attended Vanderbilt Univ. on a football scholarship in\r\nthe early sixities. My father was a Marine Corps fighter\r\npilot in WW11 and Korea. I took NROTC at VANDY because it was an easy "A" and I needed all the help I could get. Between my Junior and Senior I took the Marine Corps Option which meant from then on we would have Marine instructors. There were only four of\r\nus who took the option that year. I later went to boot\r\ncamp between my Jr. and Sr. year and survived, many\r\ndropped out or were allowed to go back to the Navy.\r\nI graduated with a BA in history , when I walked-up to\r\nreceive my diploma, I was wearing the starched Marine\r\nwhites and second lieutenant,s bars or as know in the\r\nservice "butter bars" a term of derision.\r\nI used to cross the campus and daydream that I was\r\nin my combat gear, flak vest etc. and that my men were behind me. I would even count cadence. After I graduated I went to Marine Corp's Basic Officer's school( the Marine Corps will never turn a new Second \r\nLt. loose on it's Marines until he had proved himself\r\nthis required another 6-months.\r\n\r\nI often dreamed of being a hero perhaps a Navy Cross\r\nat least a Bronze Star, could it be the Medal of Honor??? We arrived and disembarked from a C-130.\r\nWe were to provide perimeter defense for the airfield\r\nat DANAG. Some of the other junior officers and myself\r\nwould speculate as to where the best place would be to be wounded, serious enough to evacted to the world\r\nnot too minor because you would be patched-up and\r\nsent back to the line. When we arrive on the C-130's we saw what looked like large metal containers being loaded on to the plane!!!! Senior and Junior officers(lifers) must have a war on their resume if they expect to be promoted and it is still this way to day. I hope that this time it will be and "equal Opportunity war."\r\nThe only thing I longed for was a shower, hotmeal and\r\nsleep,sleep,sleep, not necessarily in that order. I eventuall put in for transfer to the air wing and was sent\r\nto Pensacola.\r\n","author":"bill gaffney","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-17 13:57:14","modified":"2002-10-17 13:57:14","fileurl":""},{"id":20183,"heading":"MARINE CORPS DISABLED VETERAN","article":"Your are exactly right. President Bush when he signed\r\nthe war bill, with great cheering and yelling by his pre\r\n-selected audience appeared to be a little boy at Christmas time who just opened his new "red ryder"\r\nB.B. gun. There is an adage in the service " if you are going to be a career officer and rise in rank, you must have combat action on your resume." The "grunts" who do all the fighting and dying do not think on such a\r\nhigh plain. They discuss "what would be the best place\r\nto be wounded, not to bad but bad enough to be sent back to the "world" not to slight or you would be fixed up and sent back the line" I must admit that junior officers sometimes had the same conversation. When \r\nas a young Marine Officer I landed at DANAG to protect the perimeter of the airfield, we were all concerned when we saw the plane we had just disembarked from being loaded with alumnium containers. Mr. Bush\r\ninjoyed himself in the TEXASS AND ALABAMA NATL GUARD. He did not have the pleasure of heating C-rats. day after day. No showers, etc.. All the pleasures\r\nof the GRUNTS. I decided the AIR WING was the place for me, passed my flight physical and was on my way to Pensacola. I wonder the 66% of americans who back this war, how would they replay if the question had been "we are going to draft and this time there will\r\nbe no deferments for college, natl. guard. service(Pres.\r\nBush). Money will not keep you out of the war, nor will\r\npolitical connections. Defer men with families only, unless they want to go.\r\nI wonder what percentage would vote for war. It is allright when it is someone else's child or father who is going to war but not mine!!!!!\r\n \r\n","author":"BILL GAFFNEY","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-17 14:18:30","modified":"2002-10-17 14:18:30","fileurl":""},{"id":20185,"heading":"U.S. MARINE OFFICER","article":"Colonel you "hit the nail on the head" The U.S. people \r\nthe 66% who when polled "believe that it is alright\r\nfor us to be the aggressor and also to go it alone against IRAQ. What if the question had been "HOW WOULD YOU VOTE IF THE DRAFT DID NOT HAVE ANY DEFERMENTS!!!! NO COLLEGE LAW SCHOOL\r\nMED. SCHOOL NO NATIONAL GUARD(PRESIDENT BUSH). I wonder what the poll results would be in that situation. American's are always glad to go to war until it hits close to home. I will not discuss Vietnam "the\r\npoor man's war" let's make this an "equal opportunity\r\naffair." When I disembarked from a C-130 in DANAG and noticed all the "aluminum boxes" being loaded on the same plane I lost most of my illusions of God and\r\nCountry. War is just to survive. Junior officers used to discuss were was the best place to be wounded , it would have to be bad enough to be E-vacted to the "world" but not bad enough so that you would not be treated an sent back to the "line"\r\nI noticed the "old"men at today's signing. They clapped \r\nand cheered!!!!! They are happy because they will not have to go. Why is it that the old men always enjoy sending young men off to die!!!!!!! \r\nThe V.A. Hospital's have been gutted since Pres. Bush\r\ncame into office. The Texas and Alabama guard "hero"\r\nhas decided that the Veterans of other "efforts to get\r\nother Saddams, Ho's, stop the "dominio effect" are not\r\nable to receive the medical treatment they need. I hope our new veterans will have a better fate!!!!!!","author":"BILL GAFFNEY","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-17 14:42:52","modified":"2002-10-17 14:42:52","fileurl":""},{"id":20188,"heading":"Worried about Wisconsin","article":"You should get out more, Worried. That is a bogus quote authored by some crunchy meathead, not a Shakespeare quote. Barbra (Didn't it used to be Barbara?) Streisand made a jackass out of herself a couple of weeks ago quoting it. You're not a babs fan are you?","author":"Simple Simon","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-17 15:17:27","modified":"2002-10-17 15:17:27","fileurl":""},{"id":20282,"heading":"Ms.","article":"Clinton may have been running around with women but he also made sure he CREATED JOBS. He made sure the deficit was paid down and he made sure he kept the promises he gave us when he ran for office.But Bush gets in office and destroyed all the good that the Clinton administration did. Clinton may have cheated on his wife but he did not cheat the country .I thought Bush was supposed to bring honor to the white house. But all I've seen so far is corporate corruption,threats of war, and distruction of the economy and the stock market.Well what should one expect from a man who would steal an election.From the time he got appointed all americans have seen is the united stated .America is going down the tubes.Wake up America, before its too late.","author":"Von","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-18 20:27:27","modified":"2002-10-18 20:27:27","fileurl":""},{"id":20283,"heading":"Ms","article":"People were on their way to taking responsibility for their familes, But th Bush administration has taken all the hope out of their efforts.You know that about 2 million jobs were lost since Bush got appointed. All I see in our future is distruction under the current administration. I really miss A good President Like President Clinton.","author":"Von","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-18 20:35:43","modified":"2002-10-18 20:35:43","fileurl":""},{"id":20284,"heading":"Ms","article":"Tell me who should be taken care of first, Iraq ,who no one knows if he has nuclear capabilities. Or Korea who we actually know does have nuclear cabilities.","author":"Von","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-18 20:42:36","modified":"2002-10-18 20:42:36","fileurl":""},{"id":20335,"heading":"Mr.","article":"We are all looking toward the area around Iraq and not looking where the greatest danger lies, it lies in the middle of our own nation. 2 million people out of work and runnaway energy costs just to support a few in luxery. It is almost like having the royalty of France reencarnated and our leaders deciding that they lead by the grace of god. ","author":"Bruce G. Snider","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-20 03:59:54","modified":"2002-10-20 03:59:54","fileurl":""},{"id":20346,"heading":"Mr.","article":"If we as taxpayers dont ake care of our own first then why do we have to take care of everyone else. Getting a job is a good thing when you can, but at this time a person probably could not get a job because our president and political representives are to busy looking out for the Iraqi boogyman to pay atention to the 2.5 million out of work in this country. Time to invest in ourselfs instead of a personal vendeta.","author":"Raymond","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-20 16:21:05","modified":"2002-10-20 16:21:05","fileurl":""},{"id":20393,"heading":"Peasant","article":" Instead of paying tuition for those on welfare,I suggest we pay each African American$200,000.00 in \r\nreparations and let them pay their own tuition.\r\n","author":"N.C.Davidson","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-21 13:19:29","modified":"2002-10-21 13:19:29","fileurl":""},{"id":20550,"heading":"media and slanted polls","article":"I have noticed since the election of 2000 that the majority of the networks present news and opinion polls in a manner that slants them in favor of Republicans in general. ","author":"joyce","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-24 15:35:09","modified":"2002-10-24 15:35:09","fileurl":""},{"id":20557,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"oh yeah...the "Liberal Media"....\r\n\r\n....my favorite is "Jumbo Shrimp"...\r\n\r\nno, wait..."Military Intelligence"...","author":"KPC","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-10-24 19:36:32","modified":"2002-10-24 19:36:32","fileurl":""},{"id":21284,"heading":"Ms.","article":"I agree with you completely. College education is what is definitely needed to allow people to be able to obtain jobs that pay enough to actually be able to live--i.e., pay for housing, food, clothing, etc. The MSNBC question was terribly slanted toward getting the answer that they wanted for Bush, as are many of MSNBC's questions. Today's question, for example, is extremely slanted--"Do you think the GOP will regain the Senate?" I also hate to vote on MSNBC's slanted poll questions, but did and sent a note that the question is very slanted. I certainly believe that the GOP will not retake the Senate and in fact, the Democrats will gain additional seats to add to their majority in the Senate.","author":"Holly Rodgers","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-11-01 17:20:53","modified":"2002-11-01 17:20:53","fileurl":""},{"id":21290,"heading":"More...","article":""war on terror"=more terror\r\n"war on drugs"= more drugs\r\n"enduring freedom"=police state\r\n(puke!)","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-11-01 18:00:35","modified":"2002-11-01 18:00:35","fileurl":""},{"id":21586,"heading":"Media and corporate censorship","article":"Lets face it the american media is not free. Our mainstream media is now owned by 6 corporations. The FCC under the Cinton administration oversaw the largest consolidation of the media in US history. The new rules enacted by the FCC this last decade have allowed clear channel to dominate all local radio markets, and reduced control of the airwaves to Disney, AOL Time Warner, Newscorp, Viacom, Bertlesmann and Vivendi Universal. While people such as Bush Admirer might say such news outlets as CNN and MSNBC are left leaning the truth of the matter is that these channels have a direct monetary intrest in surpressing all news that makes their corporate sponsors look bad. And who are the sponsors of the oligarcy that makes up contemporary US news media. Are these sponsors in anyway connected to the Military Industrial Complex that has a undying need to secure resources such as oil all around the world to keep the US Petrol Dollar afloat? You bet they do. What are the odds these corporate controlled news organizations would tell the truth about the growing anti war movement when they are hell bent on brainwashing the masses into buying the adminstrations line that Saddam must be stopped because he has weapons of mass destruction? Which of these news outlest will tell the american people the proven fact that the US supplied Saddam with the vast majority of the weapons of mass destruction he once possesed, I say once possesed because the weapon inspection imposed upon Iraq by the UN has accounted for and destroyed well over 90% of Saddams arsenal of such weapons. This means that Saddam is far less of a threat today then he was in 1991. The only place you will find this kind of critical news is Pacifica and Indymedia. Sadly NPR can no longer give the people such hard hitting news. The reason is NPR now takes corporate underwriting. The change that has come over NPR is indicative of the insidious effect corporate control has over our media. ","author":"Randy Grant","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-11-04 09:05:39","modified":"2002-11-04 09:05:39","fileurl":""},{"id":22653,"heading":"Restaurant Owner","article":"It is my oppinion that Bush, not Sadam is the world's greatest threat to world peace. It is very obvious that Oil is the reason that we are going to war. The American people are the most gullable people on the face of the earth. Reason being is that we are probably the least educated. We can't even find Iraq on a Globe. We are just like a group of sheep following a Black-faced sheep right over the cliff.","author":"Gilbert J. Pickens","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-11-24 17:03:34","modified":"2002-11-24 17:03:34","fileurl":""},{"id":24598,"heading":"Peasant","article":" I think that the government should allow African Americans to go to college as long as they like and let the taxpayers pay all expenses incurred in this effort, Also pay them reparations to aid in their welfare.","author":"Nelson Davidson","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2002-12-24 17:21:58","modified":"2002-12-24 17:21:58","fileurl":""},{"id":26900,"heading":"Mr","article":"If you are retired you started into the work force when one could earn a living wage. I am a 58 year old Tool and Maker from Ohio, and felt that there would always be jobs in my trade available. Through the passage of trade agreements such as MAFTA and GATT, and the formation of the WTO, the manufacturing jobs have left the country at such a rapid rate there just isn't any jobs available that pays a living wage. The Multi National Corperations own Washington DC, and are bringing about global government through trade. A 200 billion trade decifit with China is a good example of what I mean, how many American jobs does that represent? I thought much like you at one time, but have since changed my mind. I believe most welfare people would choose a job paying a living wage. ","author":"Joe Lewis","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-01-22 17:24:42","modified":"2003-01-22 17:24:42","fileurl":""},{"id":26901,"heading":"Mr","article":"If you would have been paying attention, you would know this is not about Irac, it is about Global Government.","author":"Joe Lewis","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-01-22 17:30:17","modified":"2003-01-22 17:30:17","fileurl":""},{"id":33503,"heading":"war in Irac","article":"Bush will send us into war soon. I bel;ieve its a for gone conclusion. If he backs down now he will look like a punk. Mark","author":"Mark Comer","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-07 01:23:03","modified":"2003-03-07 01:23:03","fileurl":""},{"id":34001,"heading":"sales director","article":"i support the was aganist iraq.President Bush is doing an outstanding job.He is the right man for the right time;Thank GOD.","author":"jim frick","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-08 18:25:26","modified":"2003-03-08 18:25:26","fileurl":""},{"id":34008,"heading":"frickety frick","article":"And why exactly do you believe every frickin thing the fricking Bush administration says? Did frickin Limbaugh tell you to frickin believe? You're a frickin fool to believe this adminstration frickin liars, draft dodgers, oil men, and thugs. Frickin shame on you.","author":"hazard","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-08 19:08:28","modified":"2003-03-08 19:08:28","fileurl":""},{"id":35930,"heading":"Welfare","article":"We need to totally do away with welfare the way it is in the states. If we brought back the churches and other non for profit , to take care of the poor. The government should not be involved in something they do not know how to resolve. Giving money doesn't not resolve anything other than make someone dependent.","author":"Don Hansen","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-16 02:03:47","modified":"2003-03-16 02:03:47","fileurl":""},{"id":35933,"heading":"That's right!","article":"Like subsidies to corporations.\r\nLike defense contractors.\r\nLike the military.\r\nDon't throw any more money at them.","author":"Sheepdog","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-16 02:16:43","modified":"2003-03-16 02:16:43","fileurl":""},{"id":35939,"heading":"I agree...","article":"...charity is best handled at the level of the individual giving either money or time - VOLUNTARILY.\r\n\r\nGovernment has no business using our money to line some corporations pockets.\r\n\r\n"...taxes are enforced exactions; not voluntary contributions..." - Learned Hand","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-16 02:43:40","modified":"2003-03-16 02:43:40","fileurl":""},{"id":35940,"heading":"However","article":"Using a public subsidy to send Welfare Recipients to College is nice work if you can get it.\r\n\r\nJob Training Program - Maybe. College - earn your own damn money.\r\n\r\nI would love to go back to school full time at someone else's expense.","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-16 02:47:40","modified":"2003-03-16 02:47:40","fileurl":""},{"id":36806,"heading":"Ridgerock","article":"A-men to that!!!!!","author":"Mark","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-19 17:21:46","modified":"2003-03-19 17:21:46","fileurl":""},{"id":36816,"heading":"Ridgerock","article":"A-Fuckingmen to that!!! We must not wait any longer!! Waiting will only make things worse by constantly leaving sadaam in the spot light like a star----& that is not my kind of star i want to see!!!!! It is time for him & his fucked up sons to go!!!! All you peace-nicks who cant see that should go & live in his country a week & i bet you wont last a DAY!!!! I think bush is a bigger man for doing what he is doing!!! Lets face it he is putting his ass on the line for us all!!! And this could make him or break him!!! GO BUSH YOU ROCK!!! ","author":"Mark","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-19 17:41:14","modified":"2003-03-19 17:41:14","fileurl":""},{"id":36820,"heading":"Opposition to Bush's War...","article":"...is not about whether or not it would be nice to see Saddam removed from power.\r\n\r\nThe opposition is based on the cost in innocent lives.\r\n\r\nIt is a trade off - is it worth tens of thousands of people's lives to remove Saddam from power through the use of massive military force?\r\n\r\nFurther the opposition is founded as well on the belief that the Bush Administration and the people who are pulling his strings are corrupt monsters. And they are.","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-19 17:47:23","modified":"2003-03-19 17:47:23","fileurl":""},{"id":36853,"heading":"OneEyedMan","article":"BushBlower:"This is about liberation"\r\n\r\n...yeah, liberating oil fields...\r\n\r\n...Oh, that's right, it's only about oil for the French and Germans.....\r\n\r\n....spare us you patronizing fuck.....","author":"KPC","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-19 18:31:13","modified":"2003-03-19 18:31:13","fileurl":""},{"id":36868,"heading":"How do you measure success?","article":"Let's see Afghanistan you say:\r\n\r\nHamid Karzi - the puppet President from Unocal - cannot leave Kabul without an armed U.S. Military Guard.\r\n\r\nHeroin Production has returned to record levels. They are expecting a bumper crop in the Opium fields.\r\n\r\nU.S. Soldiers are still taking casualties as it has turned into low grade Guerilla conflict.\r\n\r\nWith the mass murder of Taliban Soldiers in the "Convoy of Death" the liklihood of the Afhani Citizenry ever trusting the U.S. or it's Oil Company Puppet is nil.\r\n\r\nHow do you spell success? D-E-A-D A-N-D D-Y-I-N-G.","author":"Diogenes","parent_id":18095,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2003-03-19 18:52:37","modified":"2003-03-19 18:52:37","fileurl":""}]}