{"article":{"id":12827,"heading":"Italian movement against war winning - CNN cheating","author":"imcItaly","created":"2001-11-12 19:19:32","modified":"2005-08-15 00:43:13","last_modified":"Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:43:13","article":"

follows quotation of both CNN versions:

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ROME, Italy -- Anti-war sentiment dwarfed pro-U.S. feelings in Rome Saturday as people protesting

the war in Afghanistan outnumbered those attending a rally led by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's

conservatives.

ROME, Italy -- Anti-war sentiment dwarfed pro-U.S. feelings in Rome Saturday as people protesting

the war in Afghanistan outnumbered those attending a rally led by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's

conservatives.

According to police, some 100,000 opponents of the U.S.-led strikes against Afghanistan shouted

\"niente guerra\" (no war), as they waved communist flags and anti-NATO banners near Rome's

central railway station.

By contrast, a crowd of close to 40,000 attended the Berlusconi rally, police estimated.They waved

U.S. flags, as well as flags of Italy and the European Union, as an orchestra played the \"The Star

Spangled Banner.\"

Security forces numbering some 6,000 were out en masse to prevent violence.

Determined to avoid the events of the Genoa G8 summit earlier this year when police shot dead an

anti-globalisation protester during two days of violence, authorities sealed subway stations were and

cordoned off streets.

A 3 km steel fence was erected through the centre of Rome to divide the groups.

And bracing for possible terror attacks, authorities banned flights over the capital -- even setting up

anti-aircraft batteries.

But there was little trouble.

No police intervened when some marchers broke away to spray-paint anti-war slogans on banks

along the route and hurl balloons filled with paint at a school. Another group burned a European

Union flag.

The anti-war march began about an hour before the scheduled start of the pro-America rally in vast

Piazza del Popolo.

\"We're here today to say we're all citizens of New York,\" Berlusconi told the crowd, saying \"we owe it

to the American people\" to have this rally.

Among those invited to address the crowd were eight New York City firefighters who had earlier in

the morning presented Pope John Paul II with the white helmet of their chaplain, who was killed in the

September 11 terror attacks.

\"From all New York firefighters, from all New Yorkers, from all Americans, thank you, Rome, and

thank you Italia,\" said Daniel A. Nigro, the department's new chief.

The USA Day rally came days after Parliament, which Berlusconi comfortably controls, voted

overwhelmingly to send about 2,700 Italian troops and assorted military equipment to support the

campaign against the Taliban.

Berlusconi, head of a conservative coalition, is at pains to show how unwavering an ally he is of

Washington and the U.S.-led offensive.

Sophia Loren, Luciano Pavarotti and New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani were due to speak to the

crowds at the rally via a video link. Italian tenor Andrea Bocelli was to sing live on stage and

Berlusconi to deliver the closing speech.

The organisers of the anti-war march, No Global Forum, had said in advance their event would be

entirely peaceful.

Their march was organised months ago, originally to protest against a summit of the Food and

Agriculture Organisation planned in Rome for this week.

That summit was postponed until 2002 amid security fears in the wake of the attacks on the United

States.

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ROME, Italy -- Rival pro-U.S. and anti-war rallies in Rome passed off peacefully with police figures

putting the turnout larger at a pro-coalition event led by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's

conservatives.

According to police quoted by the Associated Press, a crowd of 100,000 attended the Berlusconi

rally on Saturday. They waved U.S. flags, as well as flags of Italy and the European Union, as an

orchestra played the \"The Star Spangled Banner.\"

Opponents of the U.S.-led strikes against Afghanistan shouted \"niente guerra\" (no war), as they

waved communist flags and anti-NATO banners near Rome's central railway station.

Police quoted by AP put the turnout at 20,000. Organisers put the crowd at 70,000, however, and

Reuters put the figure at 60,000.

Security forces numbering about 6,000 were out en masse to prevent violence.

Determined to avoid the events of the Genoa G8 summit earlier this year when police shot dead an

anti-globalisation protester during two days of violence, authorities sealed subway stations were and

cordoned off streets.

A 3 km steel fence was erected through the centre of Rome to divide the groups.

And bracing for possible terror attacks, authorities banned flights over the capital -- even setting up

anti-aircraft batteries. But there was little trouble.

No police intervened when some marchers broke away to spray-paint anti-war slogans on banks

along the route and hurl balloons filled with paint at a school. Another group burned a European

Union flag.

The anti-war march began about an hour before the scheduled start of the pro-America rally in vast

Piazza del Popolo.

\"We're here today to say we're all citizens of New York,\" Berlusconi told the crowd, saying, \"we owe

it to the American people\" to have this rally.

Among those invited to address the crowd were eight New York City firefighters who had earlier in

the morning presented Pope John Paul II with the white helmet of their chaplain, who was killed in the

September 11 terror attacks.

\"From all New York firefighters, from all New Yorkers, from all Americans, thank you, Rome, and

thank you Italia,\" said Daniel A. Nigro, the department's new chief.

The USA Day rally came days after Parliament, which Berlusconi comfortably controls, voted

overwhelmingly to send about 2,700 Italian troops and assorted military equipment to support the

campaign against the Taliban.

Berlusconi, head of a conservative coalition, is at pains to show how unwavering an ally he is of

Washington and the U.S.-led offensive.

Sophia Loren, Luciano Pavarotti and New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani were due to speak to the

crowds at the rally via a video link. Italian tenor Andrea Bocelli was to sing live on stage and

Berlusconi to deliver the closing speech.

The organisers of the anti-war march, No Global Forum, had said in advance their event would be

entirely peaceful.

Their march was organised months ago, originally to protest against a summit of the Food and

Agriculture Organisation planned in Rome for this week.

That summit was postponed until 2002 amid security fears in the wake of the attacks on the United

\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"CNN is cheating about number of protestors in yesterday demos in Rome.\r\nAt 2.20 AM on 11\\11\\01 CNN published numbers close to reality (100.000 antiwar\/40.000 prowar)\r\nAt 7.00 PM on 11\\11\\01 they changed the text to the same link (http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2001\/WORLD\/europe\/11\/10\/gen.rome.rallies\/index.html ) inverting numbers.\r\nThe real number of people in the antiwar demo is abundantly over 100.000 (130.000 is very realistic)\r\nAt the pro war demo there were 30\/40.000 people, not to mention that they got free travel to reach Rome paid by the billionaire prime minister Silvio Berlusconi.","numcomment":1,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2001\/11\/italian_mo.txt","filesize":"8.5 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2001\/11\/12827.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":12828,"heading":"how come ...","article":"How did it come about that the flip side of Anti-War is Pro-U.S.?! Shouldn't it be Pro-War? Why not call it what it is? Sounds bad? People wouldn't be as easy to get on board? It is entirely possible to be BOTH Anti-War AND Pro-U.S.. Anti-Bush & Pro-U.S.. Pro-U.S. & Pro-Constitution.\r\n\r\nI guess it's better than if they said Pro-U.S. and Anti-U.S.. This terminology could be in our future if too many people start hearing the peace movemnent.\r\nBe on the look-out.","author":"FluxRostrum","parent_id":12827,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-11-12 21:22:35","modified":"2001-11-12 22:00:01","fileurl":""}]}