{"article":{"id":12628,"heading":"NYC firefighters scuffle with NYPD at WTC site","author":"DAN BARRY and KEVIN FLYNN","created":"2001-11-04 21:32:09","modified":"2005-08-15 00:42:43","last_modified":"Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:42:43","article":"<p>Firefighters in Angry Scuffle With Police at Trade Center  <br>  <br> by By DAN BARRY and KEVIN FLYNN 2:29pm Sat Nov 3 '01 (Modified on 2:46pm Sat Nov 3 '01)  <br><br>  <br>  <br> A brief but emotionally wrenching scuffle broke out yesterday morning between New York City firefighters and police officers at the World Trade Center disaster site.  <br><br> November 3, 2001  <br><br> THE FIREFIGHTERS  <br><br> Firefighters in Angry Scuffle With Police at  <br>  <br> Trade Center  <br><br> By DAN BARRY and KEVIN FLYNN  <br><br> A brief but emotionally wrenching scuffle broke out yesterday morning between  <br>  <br> New York City firefighters and police officers at the World Trade Center disaster site. A dozen  <br>  <br> firefighters were arrested and five police officers were injured in the incident, which  <br>  <br> rattled the city's top officials and laid bare the frustrations of the living who are unable  <br>  <br> to bury their dead.  <br><br> What began as a demonstration by several hundred firefighters to protest a reduction in  <br>  <br> the number of firefighters permitted at the site turned into a jagged succession of  <br>  <br> awkward moments - some ugly, some poignant. One moment punches were being  <br>  <br> thrown in a melee between firefighters and police officers; the next, hundreds of  <br>  <br> firefighters were chanting their appreciation for the very officers they had just grappled  <br>  <br> with.  <br><br> The two-hour protest concluded outside City Hall, where dozens of helmeted police  <br>  <br> officers, some on horseback, prepared for more trouble as firefighters called for the  <br>  <br> ousters of Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen and  <br>  <br> demanded the right to retrieve the remains of dead colleagues. Later, Mr. Giuliani  <br>  <br> emphasized that few bodies remained to be recovered.  <br><br> \"Bring our brothers home!\" they shouted, referring to the 250 firefighters still buried in  <br>  <br> the rubble after the Sept. 11 attack. \"Bring our brothers home!\"  <br><br> The shoving match between the firefighting force, which lost 343 of its members on  <br>  <br> Sept. 11, and the police force, which lost 23 in the same awful event, was like the  <br>  <br> eruption of a familial brawl at a never-ending wake. Commissioner Von Essen  <br>  <br> apologized; Police Commissioner Bernard B. Kerik bristled; and Mayor Giuliani was  <br>  <br> the understanding but determined father.  <br><br> After acknowledging that \"emotions are very, very high for all of us,\" and  <br>  <br> noting that \"we all have lost people that we love,\" the mayor called the  <br>  <br> firefighters' actions unacceptable. \"You can't hit police officers,\" he said.  <br>  <br> \"You can't disobey the law, and you have to have enough professionalism  <br>  <br> and dignity about yourself to not conduct yourself in that way. No matter  <br>  <br> how bad you feel, no matter how much you feel like crying, and no matter  <br>  <br> how much you feel like venting your emotions.\"  <br><br> Last night, the bickering among the city's uniformed officers had not abated,  <br>  <br> and the potential for further confrontation remained. Seven firefighters, four  <br>  <br> ranking fire officers and one fire marshal were being held at the 28th Precinct  <br>  <br> station house in central Harlem. As of early today, charges that included  <br>  <br> trespassing, disorderly conduct and obstruction of governmental  <br>  <br> administration had been prepared against 10 of those arrested, according to  <br>  <br> the Barbara Thompson, a spokeswoman for the Manhattan district attorney's  <br>  <br> office. She said that no charges were being filed against the other two.  <br><br> At the center of the emotions and frustrations exposed yesterday is the site  <br>  <br> itself: the slowly diminishing pile of rubble, acres wide and several floors  <br>  <br> deep. Thousands of people are believed to have died, many of them  <br>  <br> apparently reduced to dust, when the terrorist attack caused the twin towers  <br>  <br> to collapse. It is a construction site, but it is also a grave site.  <br><br> In the beginning, the Fire Department was in charge of the site, and its  <br>  <br> members had complete access; they put out fires and searched for survivors  <br>  <br> who were never found. The search-and-rescue operations eventually ended,  <br>  <br> though, and firefighters dedicated themselves to finding the remains of their  <br>  <br> dead colleagues and carrying them away with dignity. It is part of their code.  <br><br> But the Giuliani administration, heeding the advice of safety experts, has been  <br>  <br> reducing the number of firefighters permitted at the site, where swinging  <br>  <br> girders and rumbling backhoes pose a danger, and where many workers  <br>  <br> have developed chronic chest pains and coughing fits. On Wednesday, the  <br>  <br> city announced that only 25 firefighters would be assigned to the recovery of  <br>  <br> remains, down from 64 at the time.  <br><br> Officials for the two unions that represent uniformed firefighters said this  <br>  <br> latest reduction set off feelings of hurt and betrayal among many firefighters.  <br>  <br> They felt that the city was treating hallowed ground as just another  <br>  <br> construction site, the officials said; that the mayor wanted the site tidied up  <br>  <br> by Dec. 31, when his tenure ends; that city officials seem to care more about  <br>  <br> removing the hoards of gold and silver underneath the trade center than they  <br>  <br> do about removing human remains.  <br><br> Mr. Giuliani said he felt \"really, really bad\" that his efforts to ensure safety at  <br>  <br> the site had been distorted by \"certain people.\" He also emphasized that  <br>  <br> firefighters and police officers would continue to be assigned to the site, and  <br>  <br> that the city was determined to \"recover the maximum number of human  <br>  <br> remains that we can recover.\"  <br><br> On Thursday afternoon, Deputy Mayor Anthony P. Coles and the leaders of  <br>  <br> the two firefighters' unions, representing about 11,500 men and women, met  <br>  <br> at City Hall to discuss the growing tensions, but little was resolved. Fire  <br>  <br> Capt. Peter L. Gorman, the president of the Uniformed Fire Officers  <br>  <br> Association, recalled telling Mr. Coles that firefighters and grieving families  <br>  <br> were very upset, and that a demonstration was going to take place with or  <br>  <br> without union support. \"I told them the prudent thing to do was to prevent it,\"  <br>  <br> Mr. Coles said yesterday.  <br><br> That night, the union leaders faxed a notice to their members: there would be  <br>  <br> a demonstration on Friday morning to protest the city's decision to turn the  <br>  <br> trade center site into what one union announcement called a \"full-time  <br>  <br> construction scoop and dump operation.\"  <br><br> Shortly before midnight Thursday, Mr. Von Essen received a call from  <br>  <br> Mayor Giuliani, who was at the World Series but wondering about talk of a  <br>  <br> demonstration. \"I told him they jacked up a lot of families and they're going  <br>  <br> to have a demonstration at the site,\" Mr. Von Essen recalled.  <br><br> City officials said yesterday that they knew the approaching protest would be  <br>  <br> uncomfortable but did not expect violence. In fact, police officials said they  <br>  <br> had been assured by union officials that the protesters would remain behind  <br>  <br> the barricades surrounding the disaster site.  <br><br> The demonstration, which began at the corner of West and Chambers Streets,  <br>  <br> could have been just another airing of union gripes if it were not for that central issue of  <br>  <br> death and missing human remains.  <br><br> Mike Heffernan, a firefighter, told the crowd of the great relief that comes when a family  <br>  <br> recovers the body of a loved one - as his did on Oct. 1 when the remains of John  <br>  <br> Heffernan, his brother and a firefighter, were found and buried.  <br><br> Then Bill Butler, a retired fire captain, spoke. \"My son Tommy, from Squad 1, is  <br>  <br> still in that building, and we haven't gotten to him yet,\" he said, urging everyone to  <br>  <br> challenge the decision to cut back on the Fire Department presence at the site.  <br><br> Soon the streets resounded with chants. \"Bring Tommy home!\" \"Bring the brothers  <br>  <br> home!\" \"They took the gold out!\"  <br><br> And, in an appeal to halt work at the site in deference to the firefighters: \"Shut 'em  <br>  <br> down, shut 'em down!\"  <br><br> Kevin E. Gallagher, the president of the Uniformed Firefighters Association, raised  <br>  <br> his bullhorn and addressed the dozens of police officers who had been casually  <br>  <br> watching the protest unfold. \"Please allow us to walk to the site in a dignified manner,\" he  <br>  <br> said. \"Some of you officers have also lost brothers. Walk with us, and we'll go  <br>  <br> peacefully.\"  <br><br> The protesters pushed aside a steel fence and began marching south down West  <br>  <br> Street, closer to the disaster site, while police officers watched, as if taken aback. It  <br>  <br> was not until the protesters pressed against a second barricade that matters turned ugly.  <br><br> Punches were thrown, profanities exchanged. People either fell or were pushed to the  <br>  <br> ground. Police officers grabbed whom they could and, after  <br>  <br> brief struggles, slapped on handcuffs. Then the scuffling ended almost as  <br>  <br> quickly as it had begun, and the police officers stepped aside.  <br><br> Mr. Gallagher also thanked the police, but not before vowing to rouse  <br>  <br> thousands more protesters - including \"brothers from other cities\" - if the  <br>  <br> protests were ignored. The protesters then filed out of the restricted area,  <br>  <br> through an impromptu honor guard created by dozens of applauding  <br>  <br> construction workers.  <br><br> Hundreds of protesters continued on to City Hall, where dozens of police  <br>  <br> officers were gathering.  <br><br> Nervous city officials watched from behind the fences that surround City  <br>  <br> Hall. \"Rudy must go!\" the firefighters shouted. And \"Tom must go!\" And  <br>  <br> \"Bring our brothers home!\"  <br><br> By 12:30 p.m., the protest had petered out. Some firefighters went to a bar  <br>  <br> on Nassau Street; others headed to work. On the J train bound for Queens,  <br>  <br> for example, Larry Mooney tried to explain the emotions.  <br><br> \"They want to pull out people with cranes,\" he said. \"We want to bring back  <br>  <br> the brothers with dignity. They think the quicker they can clean it, the better  <br>  <br> they look. We've got friends there, brothers and family. We've known these  <br>  <br> guys for years. This goes very deep.\"  <br><br> Such sentiments did little to mollify Mr. Kerik, who said fire union officials  <br>  <br> had assured the police that they were planning a peaceful protest. \"We didn't  <br>  <br> anticipate that they would pick up and flip the barricades on top of the cops,\"  <br>  <br> he said, sounding betrayed. \"We didn't anticipate that they would punch  <br>  <br> police officers in the face. We didn't anticipate the behavior that came out of  <br>  <br> the demonstration. As a result, we have five police officers injured; two with  <br>  <br> black eyes and trauma to the face, three with neck, shoulder and back  <br>  <br> injuries.\"  <br><br> Last night, union officials snapped back. They said police supervisors at the  <br>  <br> scene had provoked the scuffling.  <br><br> \"Unfortunately, not everybody's cooler heads prevailed, all right?\" Mr.  <br>  <br> Gallagher said. \"It was over 1,000 firefighters there; they were emotionally  <br>  <br> strained. They were drained from what they've been doing over the last  <br>  <br> seven and eight weeks. Basically, all they want to do is what's right for the  <br>  <br> families.\"<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"(taken from NYC-IMC wire)","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"a very sad story.\r\ngoes to show how the state can really interupt in human loss and grieving","numcomment":0,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/2001\/11\/nyc_firefi.txt","filesize":"10.6 kibibytes","article_url":"\/news\/2001\/11\/12628.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[]}