{"article":{"id":9963,"heading":"What Goes Around...","author":"Anti-Fascist","created":"2001-09-12 13:16:46","modified":"2001-09-12 23:07:28","last_modified":"Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:07:28","article":"<p>It has finally happened. The U.S. has been attacked by what can only be assumed are parties fed up with the U.S. and its patently FASCIST foreign and economic policies. The worst part of this is that hundreds or as many as thousands of innocents were killed. And there's a lot more to come if the U.S. does not IMMEDIATELY clean up its act!!!  IT MUST STOP-1. Ramming capitalism down the world's throat 2. Carrying on and otherwise supporting WHITE SUPREMACIST POLICIES such as 'MANIFEST DESTINY', ZIONISM, etc.3. Playing God and IMPOSING its cultural HEGEMONY on the rest of the world.  <br>  <br>  If the U.S. is TRULLY about Democracy, then as they say, \"Show us the money!\". Stop PRACTICING FASCISM!!!<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"  U.S. Institutions attacked with commandeered aircraft. The rest of the world has responded to escalating U.S. arrogance, racism and fascism. If only they could have confined the targets to military installations.","numcomment":12,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2001\/09\/9963.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":9964,"heading":"hear hear","article":"Its as plane as the nose on your face.Shame about the collateral damage.These spectacular attentats serve authoritarians in the end.Operation soft drill will also be hunting those responsible AND nominating the entire upper echelon of the rogue state,amerikkka,for soft drill.You cant kill kill...but you can keep it down.","author":"proffr1@etc","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 13:29:53","modified":"2001-09-12 13:55:43","fileurl":""},{"id":9965,"heading":"Command and Control","article":"As corporate media shrilly decries the cowardly terrorist attacks on innocent Americans, I have to think that whoever initiated these attacks hit what, if the US were doing it would be called command and control targets. \r\n\r\nIf you are against US capitalism the World Trade Center would be a legitimate target.\r\n\r\nIf you were against US Imperialism the Pentagon and the US State Department would be legitimate targets.  \r\n\r\nThe people of the world are fed up with the US and have struck back.\r\n\r\nThe collateral damage is regrettable. (paraphrase of statements of BushI during US attacks on Iraq)\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"Maotzu","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 13:55:42","modified":"2001-09-12 14:44:03","fileurl":""},{"id":9974,"heading":"screw you self righteous activists","article":"I am disgusted at being part of a movement that supports the deaths\r\nof thousands.  How can your heart melt for children in other countries\r\nbut not the US?  Are children not created equal?  Are humans not\r\nequal?  Is that what we are fighting for?  So get the h__l out of my\r\nmovement if you're going to support terrorism or death, because\r\nwhatever you may think of Bush or America, those innocent people\r\nwho died today were just as tragic as any labour person, or Carlo\r\nGuiliani, or a child digging through garbage.  All life is precious, and\r\ndamn anyone for claiming to love life and justice and then going\r\non to celebrate the death of thousands.  You disgust me, and you\r\nshould disgust yourselves.\r\n\r\nSo disappointing...","author":"disappointed","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 17:00:47","modified":"2001-09-12 17:52:52","fileurl":""},{"id":9975,"heading":"You Are A Sick Person!","article":"You are one sick person to praise the deaths of innocent. What kind of person gloats at the deaths of thousands of innocent people? To bad you weren't on the plane with the innocent.","author":"Mark","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 17:52:51","modified":"2001-09-12 18:34:24","fileurl":""},{"id":9976,"heading":"TREASON IS THE REASON","article":"September 11 is the anniversary of the Camp David accords. The Peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. The workers and others paid for this phony peace. The U.S. hosted that event which tied the U.S. even more to the middle\r\neast and by check book diplomacy to Israel. If the U.S Criminal leaders had kept its nose out of the middle eastern feud thousands of Americans that are dead would still be alive. Intervention and international policing to protect transnational corporations, banking and Jew intrigue are the causes -- disaster is the effect. \r\nDeath to the Zionists & Jews!! Facist would have nothing to to with the Jews if we had a say in it.\r\nJohnny 88","author":"Johnny","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 17:56:09","modified":"2001-09-12 18:34:24","fileurl":""},{"id":9980,"heading":"the art of war","article":"disappointed: Our Movement is for Democracy. Join up withe Gestapo Military in the US, disappointed and you will soon be dying in building-to-building combat in any US city.\r\n\r\nWe in the Movement are willing to shed our lives to save this Planet's ecology and sustainable human habitation free of Nazi control.","author":"sun tzu","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 19:00:50","modified":"2001-09-12 19:25:37","fileurl":""},{"id":9985,"heading":"We Need Order!!!","article":"If nazis controlled this country this kind of thing would never happen. These scum of the earth would know our retaliation would be swift and brutal. This world be a better and safer place to live without this kind of trash getting into our country. This is what happens when we do business with Israel. More to come I am sure.\r\nJohnny","author":"Johnny","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 20:06:03","modified":"2001-09-12 20:21:09","fileurl":""},{"id":9988,"heading":"rebel You are a racist","article":"Check out the Nazi linkage in the family lineage and business of the Herbert Walkers.\r\n\r\nWe already live in a Police State.","author":"For Democracy","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 20:25:28","modified":"2001-09-12 20:59:57","fileurl":""},{"id":9989,"heading":"disgusted","article":"This gloating over destruction is disgusting.\r\n\r\nI hope you little fuck ups are young and have an underdeveloped empathy, because thousands have died, freedom will be curtailed, and we might be headed into a protracted terrorist war.\r\n\r\nTwo wrongs don't make a right.\r\n\r\n","author":"j--","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 20:36:40","modified":"2001-09-12 20:59:57","fileurl":""},{"id":9990,"heading":"BONEHEADS GALORE","article":"Let's see:\r\n\r\nWe got boo-boo heads crying over the loss of innocent lives (a legitimate sentiment)\r\nbut then ready to bend over for Bush (indirectly the real cause of this atrocity)....\r\n\r\nWe got a Nazi that needs to shut up and go back to Orange County and the shack\r\nwhere his inbred ignorance will be appreciated...\r\n\r\nHow many narcs and pigs are logged onto the IMC at this moment.  Will the real \r\nprogressives please speak up, and the boneheads shut the f%%k up!  You already\r\ngot all the corporate media supporting your numbness so let us reasonable people\r\nenjoy the medium that we have (the IMC) which allows us to speak clearly..\r\n\r\nthank you, \r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","author":"reason","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 20:59:56","modified":"2001-09-12 21:35:17","fileurl":""},{"id":9995,"heading":"A progressive perspective","article":"Please be aware that all your emotions are being manipulated at this moment.  Your eagerness to respond to one another in less than well thought out ways indicates all the more that we need to keep a level head about us.  Otherwise the perpetrators of these events, as well as the corporate media and government institutions will have a field day.\r\n\r\nI haven?t actually read that any of the above posts applaud the killing of people (except for perhaps our token, and lone, nazi who likes to blame everything on an international Jewish conspiracy ? please dear people, do not honor him with a response - He doesn?t deserve your acknowledgement).\r\n\r\nIn fact the overwhelming posts on not just this site, but all the progressive sites on the web, in my view, seem to echo the sentiment that these actions are indeed regrettable, horrible even, but at the same time somewhat expected.  The WTC was a target in 1993, it serves the world around as a monument to corporate (read anti-democratic) violence.  If I suggest that it would be na\u00efve for us to ignore it?s symbolic value the world around does that mean I applaud it?s destruction?  Of course not.  I am simply pointing out that such an attack was inevitable, if not today, then tomorrow.  Until we began to ask why some believe this had to happen our analysis will always fall short.\r\n\r\nYou see there is a progressive perspective out there and if you contrast it to the drivel that streams out of the corporate media outlets I think you will see it very clearly.  Progressives have a better understanding of the world conditions that make such acts inevitable (which I repeat is NOT THE SAME thing as applauding the act).  Progressives are the first to question if our collective hysteria surrounding the fear of terrorism might lead to further erosion of our civil liberties.  Progressives are the first to call into question the ?retribution? reaction, the insane need to strike back even though our eager willingness to dispense our military might around the world pretty seriously erodes any support we may have think we earned.  We may be the first to acknowledge that the events of today were both horrible and inevitable.\r\n\r\nThere is clearly a progressive perspective.  Let?s keep our heads clear and avoid media manipulation.\r\n\r\nA great many people were killed today.  Some would like to qualify that those killed were ?innocent? and undeserving of death.  Does the posing of this statement imply that other people around the globe are more appropriate victims of terrorism?  I find it most insulting to be accused of crying more for the loss of civilians of Baghdad, East Timor, Hiroshima, or a Palestinian village raided by Israeli armed forces.  Why do we automatically jump to the conclusion that American deaths are more tragic then the deaths that go on all over the world every day?  Isn?t this just as absurd as applauding acts of terrorism?\r\n\r\nIf you want to be angry at a response to today's events I suggest you listen to the empty rhetoric of our commander in chief.  Now there is a perspective that is not progressive.\r\n","author":"michael","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 22:02:22","modified":"2013-11-10 23:38:28","fileurl":""},{"id":9999,"heading":"karma and emotion","article":"i agree that this incident indeed is \"what goes around comes around,\" as I beleive in Karma, since no one would, without compelling reasons (at least to him\/her) to hijack a plane,crash it, killing everyone including him\/herself.   This is viscius and crazy cycles of vengeance, jsut like we see in the case of pearl harbor.  \r\n\r\nNot that I am cold-blooded but  I try to maintain being skeptic about the media coverage, which is often a giant propaganda system.  let's find out more truth, through maybe independent medias","author":"gordon","parent_id":9963,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-12 23:07:28","modified":"2001-09-12 23:42:19","fileurl":""}]}