{"article":{"id":10529,"heading":"Is Israel Responsible for the Attack?","author":"Anti-Fascist","created":"2001-09-21 14:27:19","modified":"2001-09-22 03:11:44","last_modified":"Sat, 22 Sep 2001 10:11:44","article":"<p>Two articles at Arizona Indymedia imply that Israel is responsible for the terrorist attacks. Click on the link, then click\"4000 Israeli Employees in WTC Absent Day of the Attack\" also previous article\"Who Attacked America? News Embargo After Israeli Link Leak\". This allegation was originally reported on Finnish Indymedia.<\/p>\n","contact":"","link":"http:\/\/arizona.indymedia.org\/","address":"","phone":"","parent_id":0,"mime_type":"text\/plain","summary":"   After posting \"For California's Independence\", resumed checking other Indymedia sites for updated information and ran across two articles at the Arizona Indymedia implicating Israel in the attacks! Read and decide for yourself!","numcomment":6,"fileurl":"\/uploads\/","filesize":null,"article_url":"\/news\/2001\/09\/10529.php"},"attachments":[],"comments":[{"id":10530,"heading":"I read the article...","article":"...it's complete shite.  I regret wasting my time with it.","author":"greg","parent_id":10529,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-21 16:31:11","modified":"2001-09-21 16:53:19","fileurl":""},{"id":10535,"heading":"Citing Unsourced Stories-Mere Rumor-Mongering","article":"This poster needs to stop being part of the problem and become part of the solution.  Citing unsourced stories that tell unlikely tales (with classic anti-Semitic themes, no less) is nothing less than rumor-mongering at best.  The story about 4,000 Israelis not showing up for work at the WTC contains references to various publications, but nothing specific and no links.  \r\n\r\nThe 4,000 figure is patently unbelievable, since it would represent 20% of the 20,000 people working in the WTC.  The idea that ALL Israelis would be saved is similarly unbelievable.  However, both these claims make sense to the anti-Semitic mind.  The Jews, after all, control international finance, and are perfectly capable of saving all their own.  \r\n\r\nThe reality is that 113 Israelis WERE killed in the tragedy, as you can discover by reading \"An\r\nAttack on the World: More Than 50 Countries Lost Citizens in Trade Center Towers\" By T.R. Reid, Washington Post, Wednesday, September 19, 2001; Page A01, http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/articles\/A52821-2001Sep18.html:\r\n\r\n\"The hardest hit among foreign countries appears to be Britain, which is estimating about 300 deaths -- roughly 6 percent of likely total fatalities. The British government has offered airfare and three nights' accommodations for relatives facing the dreadful journey to claim whatever remains are found. \r\n\r\n\"Chile has reported about 250 people missing, Colombia nearly 200, Turkey about 130, the Philippines about 115, Israel about 113, and Canada between 45 and 70. Germany has reported 170 people unaccounted for, but expects casualties to be around 100.\" ","author":"Paul H. Rosenberg","parent_id":10529,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-21 16:56:06","modified":"2001-09-21 17:57:29","fileurl":""},{"id":10547,"heading":"On a related topic, Paul R.","article":"5 Israelis detained for `puzzling behavior' after WTC tragedy\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.haaretzdaily.com\/hasen\/pages\/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=75266&contrassID=2\r\n\r\nHa'aretz - Article\r\n","author":"Anti-facist","parent_id":10529,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-21 21:26:51","modified":"2001-09-21 22:00:18","fileurl":""},{"id":10570,"heading":"One More Thing ; on Being \"Anti-Semitic\"","article":"    let's see now, Israel's RACIAL make-up is PREDOMINATELY Euro-Caucasian as a result of immigration from Europe and America:i.e. NOT SEMITIC. Palestinians and Arabs, on the other hand ARE SEMITIC PEOPLES. So who's being anti-Semitic?\r\n  Myth no. 2., those who control the LION'S SHARE of international financial capital are NOT followers of the Jewish faith, at least in the U.S.; they are Anglo-Saxon Protestants( or claim to be).\r\n  As for the articles cited, they were presented to offer an ALTERNATIVE to the corporate media ASSUMPTION that (as always) it's \"those Arabs\". Remember Oklahoma City? Same assumption, patently false. No, I did not believe both articles at face value, due to lack of citations, hence the question mark in the title\"Is Israel Responsible for the Attack?????(Here's five in case you missed the first one again) and the article's disclaimer\"read and (my emphasis) DECIDE FOR YOURSELF.\"\r\nThen again, there's those five Israelis detained for being caught having what appeared to be a pretty good time videotaping the disaster-hmmm!","author":"Anti-Fascist","parent_id":10529,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-22 01:23:30","modified":"2001-09-22 01:53:23","fileurl":""},{"id":10577,"heading":"applying blame","article":"What is the value in applying blame?  I understand that the president needs an enemy for keeping his ratings up and if his secret service fails to find any evidence to support one they are just going to have to make it up.  My point is he has a good reason for making it up.  Evidence be dammed.  But what of the above poster?  What is his\/her motivation?  Why is it important that Israel be blamed with no more evidence than the president himself is trying to conjure up for his enemy de jur?\r\n\r\nI am only suggesting that one could have an analysis of the recent events, even a very critical analysis, without stooping to the blame game.  At his point, with such little data, blame serves no purpose except for exploitation of already over-manipulated emotions.\r\n\r\nCease and desist please.","author":"innocent","parent_id":10529,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-22 02:24:07","modified":"2001-09-22 02:48:22","fileurl":""},{"id":10581,"heading":"Cease and Desist","article":"\tIn the fury of Bush's jihad-crusade, we are supposed to fall in line lock-step?\r\n\r\nSorry, the Nazis have been there and done that.\r\n\r\nLook at the Bush family business connections with German nazism which by itself is high treason.\r\n\r\nThe helm and his fundamentalist following in the US is firmly in the grip of a rabid right wing nazi cowboy-king racist which rises to the level of the Taliban.\r\n\r\nTake your pick: One fundamentalism or the other. That's a Hobson's choice.\r\n\r\nFast war? Massive instant nuclear unleashing after a Pakistani civil war which brings the PRC into the mix. Inspired and led by both side's fundamentalists: Fawell and bin Laden\r\n\r\nSlow War? City by city nuked in a tit for tat exchange.\r\n\r\nLong War? Afghani and US causalities in the millions over 20 years.\r\n\r\nNo War? You picked the right answer. Massive Anti-War outrages around the war including in the US until we have free and fair elections where the top vote-getter gets the privilege of sitting in the office. In that way, winner would be responsible to the will of the People to pursue Life, Liberty, and Happiness.","author":"anti-Facist","parent_id":10529,"mime_type":"text\/plain","created":"2001-09-22 03:11:44","modified":"2001-09-22 04:00:03","fileurl":""}]}